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You say Trump is TACO or whatever, from what I can see, Carney is nothing but CACO. He just always goes toward the option with least resistance as long as he can spin it. He couldn't agree to any of Trump's stuff because you know, elbows up and whatnot. So, hey... EU is saying that we should boost our defence budget to 5% of GDP, let's do that. Isn't that what Trump was asking to begin with? :fuckthatshit: DST was on track... no plan to do anything about it. Oh no... Bad orange man is mad at DST now, let's scrap that! If he had ANY plan whatsoever, why not just bring these 2 things to the bargaining table with US?! "Hey Orange man, you want a deal? We will boost our defence expense to 5% and cancel DST while at it... what can you give us?" Instead? Now you agreed to 5% on defence expense, and scrapped the DST... all while being back to square one on the bargaining table. I mean, I'm not an incredible negotiator or whatever, but Carney just gave away 2 huge bargaining chips for what?! FUCKING NOTHING other than US agreeing to come back to the table. |
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So does this mean some of you think Trudeaus tax idea was a good one? Quote:
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Trump needs to be handled with white gloves. Butter him up now, and then reap the benefits later. My take is Carney is conceding something now that is less important to Canada in the grand scheme of things (DST), get the trade talks going again, then use DST as goodwill to negotiate matters of much larger importance to our country. Softwood, dairy, steel and aluminum, etc. |
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They should be on the table when negotiation was still ongoing. So much for elbows up and just ended up agreeing to what Trump has asked for while getting nothing in return. This never ends up well. Reminds me of a property my parents bought a while back in 2009. We offered them 60% of their asking as it was prime CRE in Midtown Atlanta. They didn't budge, we moved on. Coming back to us 2month later as they couldn't find a better offer and the seller was a month away from insolvency. Asked us to re-submit the 60% asking. My parents just offered them 30% as we got other deals and it was no longer that interested at 60% as everyone was killing to make deals. Had the audacity to insult my parents that they were exploiting their situation. I'm like... Too bad you didn't take the offer 2 month back and we are the one with cash. Take it or GTFO, or at least have the decency to keep it professional. Ended up signing the contract that very day. Tl;dr: don't always think you can get the best deal. Sometimes you need to make the deal while you still can. |
How do you even know what is going on during negotiations ? How about we all just fucking hold judgement until a deal is made? or talks fail and we go back to tarrifing the fuck over each other. I will be willing to concede whether or not Carney fucked up if and when he does but the rest of you calling each people names like libtards, morons etc. are as fucking mature as Cheeto Taco. |
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We know how cheeto is. The earlier the deal, the better the terms as he's looking for that "showpiece". Any later deals would just become harder and harder. We are an exporting economy and import a lot from the US as basic necessities. We don't really have the luxury of dragging this for too long. Yes, we might hurt the US a bit if we go full on trade war. But that would require to nearly choke our economy to death. |
How do you make a deal with someone who's basically a toddler that deals in bad faith? Any deal we make will not even be worth the paper it's printed on. |
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The one he did with China was only a rollback to a lower tariff level in exchange for China allowing the US to buy rare minerals - that was a victory for China, not for the US. We know Cheeto doesn't actually know how to do deals and we know that he consistently backs down across the board once the pain gets too close to him. He briefly dialled back immigration enforcement at hotels and farms b/c his billionaire friends got him on the phone but a day later his head Nazi blew that up once he got in front of Trump. The same happened with the original tariffs - they were paused by Lutnick and Bessent because they hit up Trump while Navarro wasn't around. Whoever talks last to Trump is whatever Trump believes in - the DST wasn't a thing till it was a thing and it'll not be a thing in a couple weeks. He's not unpredictable because he's smart, he's unpredictable because he's dumb and easily influenced. Quote:
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It would absolutely suck if we entered into a full on trade war and it would hurt us more than it would hurt the US but it's not as you described. |
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https://www.policyalternatives.ca/ne...d-budget-cuts/ “At least we’re not the other guy” or whatever it is you guys want to say? Driving home from the airport last night I saw more homeless people in a 16 kilometre, 20 minute drive than I did over a month in 5 countries. After seeing how those countries operate, I can completely get on board with the notion that higher taxes provide better outcomes, WHEN utilized effectively. As I’ve always said. If you can fix things, do it. I can also agree that it’s a bit asinine for these brain dead conservative types that complain about how services, infrastructure, social aspects are so bad, yet then want lower to no taxes, which again, I think places like Texas, Florida, etc. highlight how that isn’t possible. Scandinavian countries are a model for this. We as as society are so much worse off for the state we are in imo. Every country we went to had better transit, generally better infrastructure, and even things like public AED’s everywhere, just open, not locked away etc. how long would something like that last in Vancouver until it was stolen? 5 minutes? With all that said, and with those articles I posted above, Canada is never going to right the ship and come out of where we’re at like those Scandinavian countries, we’re way too far gone. Carney could double income tax and we still wouldn’t fix those issues. The concept of strung out homeless people with garbage surrounding them laying in the streets is non-existent in those countries. The “homeless” people I saw looked more like they were in between couch surfing, or recently hard up and out on the streets. They weren’t anywhere close to what you see here, everywhere. Honestly it’s very disheartening to see where we’re at, and have virtually no confidence this will ever be fixed. Again, geographically, Canada is the most beautiful country I’ve ever been to. Socially we are way behind. This last trip was even more of a wake up call then spending 4 months in Europe in 2022. |
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Honda voted PP who is literally selling the exact opposite of the systems he wants. We truly fucked it all up when Layton didn’t get in. |
:lol The funniest part is believing this liberal regime is doing anything otherwise? Like are you guys that fucking blind? :lol This is the greatest falacy ever told that this govt. actually can enact change. They’ve provided a decade of examples. They’ve spent frivolously without result. They’ve rewrote the system, and it’s a bigger failure than ever. Quote:
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But the other guys would take the country much further away from the ideals you are wanting to employ. Trump is gutting the US in front of everyone, sending them to hell, and PP wanted to follow in his footsteps. You would have a lot of jerkoff material for "owning the Libs" but that's about it. The stuff you actually care about would be so far out of sight your head would spin. |
Again, that’s all you have “maybe the other guys” So the “other guys” wouldn’t be capable of running a record deficit with, at the same time, making the greatest cuts? :lol Don’t worry, none of this will matter when Carney tells you guys how to think in 6 months. |
US is doing an excellent job of the biggest cuts in history with the biggest debts in history, so yeah it's possible. Neither of us want the libs in power, but what I don't understand is that you'd choose a party that's even further than them for what you say you want? There's nothing I'd rather see than an NDP that actually is organized and can deliver on what your (and my) Scandinavian utopia does. This all could have been put on a much better path in 2011. Who did you vote for back then? |
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You'll probably find that you are on the same side as a lot more people here then. Leave the vyr4lr3t4rds and hehes in the dust, you are clearly not one of them. |
ya know on the subject of bureaucracy, I was thinking why can't I get a quote and buy online insurance for ICBC like every other province? So far you can only renew existing coverage online and it's a half assed attempt which still involves an autoplan agent. Then I realized it will be political suicide as it will result in the layoffs of thousands of autoplan agents but it'll save ICBC and your tax dollars a ton in commission and be more efficient. |
Do people actually think we live in a true democracy with free media and no corruption? The whole thing's a massive sham! Once you accept that and just realize the system won... wow... life becomes so much easier when you realize that no justice will happen or utopia will form... people aren't getting murdered in the street (at least not too much) and this is pretty good. Life is still AWESOME AS FUCK in Canada if you're rich! I mean, I'm not even rich, but because I can exist online and I'm mostly free still to work digitally, living in Canada is still a pretty good lifestyle. If you bust your fucking ass 9-5 and are barely surviving, then life in Canada is fucking horrible 9/10 times! Some people really enjoy the extreme grind. Always wild when you meet a Filipino who works 2 jobs and sleeps in their car so their family can live like kings back home... |
Oh yah all those Filipinos sleeping in cars everywhere. Streets are absolutely littered with them! Idiot. |
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Meanwhile Carney has caved to Trump's every demand so far. Massive military spending, a massively overpriced missile defense system, caving so quickly on the DST, etc. In the mean time, we(not you, HKer) have essentially dropped almost all retaliatory trade efforts. Does Carney have a shred of credibility left? Right now, Trump shoved his cock so deep down Carney's throat and you can still smell Trump's cock in Carney's breath. Sad! |
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