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For me it was watching people push elevator or crosswalk buttons with their sleeves or elbows. Bro wash your hands before you suck your fingers and you’ll be fine. Christ.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
I dunno man I've seen people kick those things with the soles of their feet and spit on them. I'd rather not have fecal matter on my fingertips or get AIDS.
For me it was watching people push elevator or crosswalk buttons with their sleeves or elbows. Bro wash your hands before you suck your fingers and you’ll be fine. Christ.
I often press those buttons with my elbows...
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I dunno man I've seen people kick those things with the soles of their feet and spit on them. I'd rather not have fecal matter on my fingertips or get AIDS.
yeah those people suck. i get that nobody wants to touch these things but now you are making them even dirtier with the shit on your soles?
Usually the first thing I do when I go home is wash my hands before I touch anything. For sure, during the pandemic I would use my keys to push elevator buttons and probably a few other things I wouldn't have normally done. Not really a big deal though, those were strange times.
There are plenty of things I did before the pandemic that, at the time, would have seemed excessive to some but that's just different habits people have. Even now, using a paper towel to open a public bathroom door is weird to some but completely normal to many.
Jamie Sarkonak: Non-citizen johns shouldn't get sentence discounts for their crimes
An Ontario resident tried to buy sex from what he thought was a 15-year-old. He was given a conditional discharge to help him stay in Canada
Author of the article:By Jamie Sarkonak
Published Jul 15, 2025
Last updated 2 days ago
4 minute read
In December 2023, Akashkumar Khant, 30 (plus or minus some months), made the mistake of arranging to have sex with a 15-year-old at a Mississauga Holiday Inn for $140.
Only, when he got there, that 15-year-old turned out to be a cop. He was arrested at the hotel (with $140 in cash on hand) and subsequently ended up in court — but he won’t receive a criminal record for his actions, in part because of his immigration status.
On June 25, Khant was sentenced to a conditional discharge for committing an indecent act. For three months, he will be under house arrest — during which time he can go shopping for three hours every Sunday, attend religious services, medical appointments and travel to and from work. Twelve months of probation will follow afterward. Whether Ontario will appeal remains an open question, as the province won’t reveal its plan until after July 25.
Why such a low sentence? Part of it came down to the fact that he pleaded guilty to a lesser offence. Peel Police told the Post that they initially charged Khant with obtaining sexual services for consideration from a person under 18 years. (This would have carried a six-month minimum jail sentence for first-time offenders under the Criminal Code, but the Ontario Court of Appeal ruled this modest mandatory minimum to be unconstitutional last year.)
Khant pleaded to attempting an indecent act instead, which has a maximum penalty of two years’ jail. Crown prosecutors asked for 90 days, but they didn’t get their wish — and much of the reason why came down to the fact that the accused was not a citizen.
Originally from India’s Gujarat state, Khant came to Canada in 2019 for school, specifically, a master’s of engineering. He finished in 2021 and obtained permanent residency in 2023. Also, in 2023, he married his wife, who is currently here on a work visa set to expire in September. This was an important consideration for Justice Paul Thomas O’Marra, who joined the Ontario Court of Justice in the Kathleen Wynne era.
“Mr. Khant is a permanent resident seeking Canadian citizenship and professional licensing,” wrote the judge. “A conviction would not only delay his citizenship by four years but could also prevent him from sponsoring his wife and obtaining his engineering licence.
“These immigration and professional consequences are far more severe than those faced by (an offender in a similar previous case), who was a Canadian citizen with no such vulnerabilities. Courts have recognized that such consequences can justify a more lenient sentence, including a discharge.”
Logically, Khant would be getting a higher sentence if he were Canadian — which is why this sentencing practice is so deeply unfair.
O’Marra also found a lot of good in the accused, noting his above-average IQ, his first-time offender status, his lack of mental illness or criminal record, his “modest and reserved” nature, and his low likelihood of reoffending (he did show “some response to younger females” in phallometric testing, but he agreed to take therapy in light of the finding).
In the judge’s eyes, these overcame Khant’s flaws, such as his apparent intention to see the fictitious 15-year-old on a regular basis: “we could do this a lot depending on how this goes,” he told the officer-in-disguise. After he was caught, he told the risk-assessment psychologist that he never intended to go for underage girls.
The judge was troubled, on the other hand, by what he characterized as “evidentiary weaknesses” in the Crown’s case: namely, “a partial phone download, no direct link between the phone and Mr. Khant, and surveillance footage that failed to show him at the hotel room door.” Though, these concerns are questionable, as police should be able to testify to Khant’s presence at the door, and because his phone was seized upon arrest (and was thus in his possession).
Taking all into account, O’Marra concluded, “A conviction would lead to severe collateral consequences, such as jeopardizing his immigration status, delaying his citizenship, and preventing him from sponsoring his wife, which would likely result in their separation. These consequences would be disproportionate to the offence and would undermine his rehabilitative progress.”
This is an uphill battle. At the top end, Canadian law requires that judges take immigration consequences into account in sentencing “provided that the sentence that is ultimately imposed is proportionate to the gravity of the offence and the degree of responsibility of the offender.” At no point did we explicitly legislate this: rather, in 2013, it was decided by the Supreme Court, in a judgment authored by now-Chief Justice Richard Wagner.
Lower down, we have to contend with courts that set soft precedents that later justify even softer decisions. Aside from Ontario’s mandatory minimum strikedown for underage solicitation, Khant was assisted by a 2018 case in which a man was conditionally discharged for breaking his wife’s arm on one occasion and, years later, threatening to kill her while pushing her head into a pillow.
This is happening all around Canada. In Calgary last year, a man on a study visa was found guilty of groping a woman’s genitals at a club; he was given a conditional discharge to lessen his chances of deportation.
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has supported the idea of deporting non-citizens who commit violence and hate crimes in Canada. That mentality should be extended to the rest of the Criminal Code — in particular, crimes related to sex and crimes with underage victims — not just as a matter of public safety and immigration integrity, but as a matter of basic justice.
TL;DL
- Indian Master of Engineering student with PR status gets caught trying to buy sex from 15 yrs old for $140
- judge gives conditional discharge instead of jail time bcos the guy is seeking Canadian citizenship and professional licensing, plus sponsoring his wife to stay in Canada
WTF is this shxt?! Why dafuq should his path to obtain Canadian citizenship result in a free pass for the underage sex attempt? And why dafuq do we still want to give this perv a pathway to Canadian citizenship anyway?!
This POS Justice -- Paul Thomas O’Marra -- must be fxxked in the head.
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The whole world has gone down a road no one can recover from, and it's nothing to do with governments, it's because so much of the general public is so fucking stupid.
Jamie Sarkonak: Non-citizen johns shouldn't get sentence discounts for their crimes
An Ontario resident tried to buy sex from what he thought was a 15-year-old. He was given a conditional discharge to help him stay in Canada
Author of the article:By Jamie Sarkonak
Published Jul 15, 2025
Last updated 2 days ago
4 minute read
In December 2023, Akashkumar Khant, 30 (plus or minus some months), made the mistake of arranging to have sex with a 15-year-old at a Mississauga Holiday Inn for $140.
Only, when he got there, that 15-year-old turned out to be a cop. He was arrested at the hotel (with $140 in cash on hand) and subsequently ended up in court — but he won’t receive a criminal record for his actions, in part because of his immigration status.
On June 25, Khant was sentenced to a conditional discharge for committing an indecent act. For three months, he will be under house arrest — during which time he can go shopping for three hours every Sunday, attend religious services, medical appointments and travel to and from work. Twelve months of probation will follow afterward. Whether Ontario will appeal remains an open question, as the province won’t reveal its plan until after July 25.
Why such a low sentence? Part of it came down to the fact that he pleaded guilty to a lesser offence. Peel Police told the Post that they initially charged Khant with obtaining sexual services for consideration from a person under 18 years. (This would have carried a six-month minimum jail sentence for first-time offenders under the Criminal Code, but the Ontario Court of Appeal ruled this modest mandatory minimum to be unconstitutional last year.)
Khant pleaded to attempting an indecent act instead, which has a maximum penalty of two years’ jail. Crown prosecutors asked for 90 days, but they didn’t get their wish — and much of the reason why came down to the fact that the accused was not a citizen.
Originally from India’s Gujarat state, Khant came to Canada in 2019 for school, specifically, a master’s of engineering. He finished in 2021 and obtained permanent residency in 2023. Also, in 2023, he married his wife, who is currently here on a work visa set to expire in September. This was an important consideration for Justice Paul Thomas O’Marra, who joined the Ontario Court of Justice in the Kathleen Wynne era.
“Mr. Khant is a permanent resident seeking Canadian citizenship and professional licensing,” wrote the judge. “A conviction would not only delay his citizenship by four years but could also prevent him from sponsoring his wife and obtaining his engineering licence.
“These immigration and professional consequences are far more severe than those faced by (an offender in a similar previous case), who was a Canadian citizen with no such vulnerabilities. Courts have recognized that such consequences can justify a more lenient sentence, including a discharge.”
Logically, Khant would be getting a higher sentence if he were Canadian — which is why this sentencing practice is so deeply unfair.
O’Marra also found a lot of good in the accused, noting his above-average IQ, his first-time offender status, his lack of mental illness or criminal record, his “modest and reserved” nature, and his low likelihood of reoffending (he did show “some response to younger females” in phallometric testing, but he agreed to take therapy in light of the finding).
In the judge’s eyes, these overcame Khant’s flaws, such as his apparent intention to see the fictitious 15-year-old on a regular basis: “we could do this a lot depending on how this goes,” he told the officer-in-disguise. After he was caught, he told the risk-assessment psychologist that he never intended to go for underage girls.
The judge was troubled, on the other hand, by what he characterized as “evidentiary weaknesses” in the Crown’s case: namely, “a partial phone download, no direct link between the phone and Mr. Khant, and surveillance footage that failed to show him at the hotel room door.” Though, these concerns are questionable, as police should be able to testify to Khant’s presence at the door, and because his phone was seized upon arrest (and was thus in his possession).
Taking all into account, O’Marra concluded, “A conviction would lead to severe collateral consequences, such as jeopardizing his immigration status, delaying his citizenship, and preventing him from sponsoring his wife, which would likely result in their separation. These consequences would be disproportionate to the offence and would undermine his rehabilitative progress.”
This is an uphill battle. At the top end, Canadian law requires that judges take immigration consequences into account in sentencing “provided that the sentence that is ultimately imposed is proportionate to the gravity of the offence and the degree of responsibility of the offender.” At no point did we explicitly legislate this: rather, in 2013, it was decided by the Supreme Court, in a judgment authored by now-Chief Justice Richard Wagner.
Lower down, we have to contend with courts that set soft precedents that later justify even softer decisions. Aside from Ontario’s mandatory minimum strikedown for underage solicitation, Khant was assisted by a 2018 case in which a man was conditionally discharged for breaking his wife’s arm on one occasion and, years later, threatening to kill her while pushing her head into a pillow.
This is happening all around Canada. In Calgary last year, a man on a study visa was found guilty of groping a woman’s genitals at a club; he was given a conditional discharge to lessen his chances of deportation.
Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre has supported the idea of deporting non-citizens who commit violence and hate crimes in Canada. That mentality should be extended to the rest of the Criminal Code — in particular, crimes related to sex and crimes with underage victims — not just as a matter of public safety and immigration integrity, but as a matter of basic justice.
TL;DL
- Indian Master of Engineering student with PR status gets caught trying to buy sex from 15 yrs old for $140
- judge gives conditional discharge instead of jail time bcos the guy is seeking Canadian citizenship and professional licensing, plus sponsoring his wife to stay in Canada
WTF is this shxt?! Why dafuq should his path to obtain Canadian citizenship result in a free pass for the underage sex attempt? And why dafuq do we still want to give this perv a pathway to Canadian citizenship anyway?!
This POS Justice -- Paul Thomas O’Marra -- must be fxxked in the head.
“Well we don’t want to ruin his life”
Actually yeah, we do though. I’d like any sex offenders life to be ruined.
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Originally Posted by boostfever
Westopher is correct.
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Originally Posted by fsy82
seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Immigrants are basically the golden goose that every first-world country is fighting for now to "combat population decline". So unless they're absolutely broken (i.e. murder one), we'll handle them with kid gloves to make sure they stay in Canada. This isn't a Carney Liberal thing, it's an all Centrist parties philosophy across the West.
I know this isn't what people here want to hear, but that's basically the only way to explain this bizzare decision making.
Lets face it, Canada’s justice system is a mess. Judges are nearly untouchable, and even when one tries to do the right thing, the Supreme Court steps in and reverses it on ‘human rights’ grounds.
Immigrants are basically the golden goose that every first-world country is fighting for now to "combat population decline". So unless they're absolutely broken (i.e. murder one), we'll handle them with kid gloves to make sure they stay in Canada. This isn't a Carney Liberal thing, it's an all Centrist parties philosophy across the West.
I know this isn't what people here want to hear, but that's basically the only way to explain this bizzare decision making.
There’s truth to this, just today Germany just reported its lowest birth rate in over 20 years, and even immigrant families are having fewer kids. It’s the same story across most of Europe.
The easiest short term fix is immigration, and like it or not, Canada’s in the same boat with declining birth rates. We don’t have many other options.
How many of these people are actually skilled? Or stay once their “education” is done?
Is there tangible data for any of this? Or do you just bring people here for the sake of numbers
There's lots of data on this available as immigrants usually (exceptions to refugees and TFW) have to get enough points to get in so they all get classified.
It's a few years old but something like 60% of immigrants are "skilled" - I only scanned the first few pages so I don't know how refugees, children, and caretakers are included in there.
There's a section saying new immigrants tend to start in lower skilled jobs before moving up as they stay longer in the country.
There's lots of data on this available as immigrants usually (exceptions to refugees and TFW) have to get enough points to get in so they all get classified.
It's a few years old but something like 60% of immigrants are "skilled" - I only scanned the first few pages so I don't know how refugees, children, and caretakers are included in there.
There's a section saying new immigrants tend to start in lower skilled jobs before moving up as they stay longer in the country.
Yea.. like the Indian guy that worked at Lids that was talking my ear off
Had a “digital marketing degree” from some sham college and was a “manager” at lids so he got double the points as opposed to just being a sales guy for his immigration status. Was yucky
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