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Traum 12-08-2018 12:30 AM

Following the story on Vancouver Sun:

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...a-bail-hearing

I was both impressed and mildly surprised by the level of detail it has. In particular, I found the letter from the US DOJ to be very interesting (and almost certainly very damaging to Meng). For the same person to have been issued 7 different passports within an 11 year span by China and Hong Kong, I think that speaks volumes about who Meng is and what her ties are. And as a side note, I also think the multiple different Hong Kong passports is also potentially damaging to Hong Kong's international reputation, and could prove to serve as further evidence for the US to cancel the US Hong Kong Policy Act, and therefore seriously cripple Hong Kong's economic and international status.

Mr.Money 12-08-2018 07:28 AM

a company worth billions of dollars and still decides to defraud banks overseas. :fulloffuck:
let alone having connections to issue you passports as different people.

originalhypa 12-08-2018 08:07 AM

China should have been all like, Shut up, Meng.

MG1 12-08-2018 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8931641)
It's 2018 and revscene is taking a case of international espionage, a potential start to a trade war or worse, and making it about womens' looks FailFish

Whoa, Nelly. As yray would put it, “clam down.” You must be a barrel of laughs at parties. This is RS. We just having some fun. The world is enough of a miserable place, that a little chuckle here and there is a good thing. Most of us know the gravity of the situation and the possible.............. what the hell.

Anyway, I have no clue who you are or what you do, so I’ll just let you carry on carrying on, Kommandant Klink.


god bless

twitchyzero 12-09-2018 03:03 PM

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/cana...e-over-huawei/

Quote:

Beijing has adopted a harsh new tone against Canada, summoning the country’s ambassador to China and threatening “serious consequences” if Ottawa does not immediately release Meng Wanzhou, the Huawei chief financial officer.
or you will what? harvest Canadians for black market organs?

jackmeister 12-09-2018 03:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8931643)
Following the story on Vancouver Sun:

https://vancouversun.com/news/local-...a-bail-hearing

I was both impressed and mildly surprised by the level of detail it has. In particular, I found the letter from the US DOJ to be very interesting (and almost certainly very damaging to Meng). For the same person to have been issued 7 different passports within an 11 year span by China and Hong Kong, I think that speaks volumes about who Meng is and what her ties are. And as a side note, I also think the multiple different Hong Kong passports is also potentially damaging to Hong Kong's international reputation, and could prove to serve as further evidence for the US to cancel the US Hong Kong Policy Act, and therefore seriously cripple Hong Kong's economic and international status.

HK definitely doesn't allow someone to have 3 valid passports at once. Most likely they were carrying old (or cancelled passports) that still had valid visas on them (eg. USA issues 10 year visa on passport with 3 years left, but they won't move it to the new passport)

China, on the other hand, many business people have 2 passports, one for business travel and one for personal travel. The business passport is usually held by the company and used for business travel only. For some senior executives (manager/director/c-suite level), their personal passports are also held at the company.

GLOW 12-09-2018 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8931803)

can't help but picture eddie murphy when i read "serious consequences" :lol


Hondaracer 12-09-2018 03:31 PM

on Global last night they had some fucking "Chinese Richmond business society" with some fob's at a desk saying 'we would like gov general to release her as she is very important business"

lol like fuck do you understand even the basics of the circumstances of her arrest?

Ch28 12-09-2018 03:37 PM

Apparently, cops were called to her house because people broke in. I wonder if this is a case of people seeing an opportunity to loot the house, or if it's some corporate espionage hoping to swoop in on some Huawei documents :lol

Hondaracer 12-09-2018 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8931812)
Apparently, cops were called to her house because people broke in. I wonder if this is a case of people seeing an opportunity to loot the house, or if it's some corporate espionage hoping to swoop in on some Huawei documents :lol

or get in there to hide/destroy shit

Mr.Money 12-09-2018 03:45 PM

^^^ Could be organized Crime trying to get black mail on them....
or possibly cleaning up a mess....imagine 5 different official passports under different names

jing 12-09-2018 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 8931809)
on Global last night they had some fucking "Chinese Richmond business society" with some fob's at a desk saying 'we would like gov general to release her as she is very important business"

lol like fuck do you understand even the basics of the circumstances of her arrest?

"United Association of Women and Children in Canada" starring Hong Guo

https://i.cbc.ca/1.4938450.154430715...conference.jpg

https://www.cbc.ca/amp/1.4938445

68style 12-09-2018 04:40 PM

Jesus another woman from China that needs to be in jail

yray 12-09-2018 04:52 PM

lol women and children

#metoo

welfare 12-09-2018 05:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8931657)
China should have been all like, Shut up, Meng.


westopher 12-09-2018 07:51 PM

Quote:

The chair of the group, Mei Han Dong said that because Meng is a Chinese citizen, she should be governed by Chinese law.
Sorry you fucking idiots, when you enter another country, you now adhere to their laws.

Hehe 12-09-2018 07:58 PM

I just :lawl: so hard every time Chinese demands the GOV'T to release Meng when in fact, it's already in the hands of the judicial system.

Chinese are so used to be able to dictate the law that they forgot it works differently in other part of the world. :fuckthatshit:

Traum 12-09-2018 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by twitchyzero (Post 8931803)
Beijing has adopted a harsh new tone against Canada, summoning the country’s ambassador to China and threatening “serious consequences” if Ottawa does not immediately release Meng Wanzhou, the Huawei chief financial officer.

Frankly, I am surprised by how China is throwing another childish temper tantrum and lashing out at Canada like that. Among their whole upper echelon of the politburo (and their lower branches), is there no one who understands how the Western legal system works? Those are criminal charges Meng faces, so unlike how China operates, now that the legal process has already been set in motion, there is (supposed to be) absolutely nothing the legislative and executive branches can do. Barking and lashing out like the mad dog that it is doing right now will only further piss Canada (and the US) off.

Morons... FailFish

Traum 12-09-2018 08:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8931845)
Sorry you fucking idiots, when you enter another country, you now adhere to their laws.

You know, I actually have some questions on how Canadian authorities managed to detain / arrest Meng. Supposedly, she was only transferring through the YVR terminal. I doubt the Canadian authorities would make such an elementary mistake, but depending on where exactly the arrest took place, is there any chance that Canadian authorities made the arrest outside of their jurisdiction?

Anyone familiar with how this stuff is supposed to work?

Mr.HappySilp 12-09-2018 08:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8931850)
You know, I actually have some questions on how Canadian authorities managed to detain / arrest Meng. Supposedly, she was only transferring through the YVR terminal. I doubt the Canadian authorities would make such an elementary mistake, but depending on where exactly the arrest took place, is there any chance that Canadian authorities made the arrest outside of their jurisdiction?

Anyone familiar with how this stuff is supposed to work?

TIf the arrest took place in Canada then is Canada law that applies (We didn't RENT part of our land to China now did we? Think HK long rail train station that connects to China).

Traum 12-09-2018 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8931851)
TIf the arrest took place in Canada then is Canada law that applies (We didn't RENT part of our land to China now did we? Think HK long rail train station that connects to China).

Oh yes we have -- it's just that the country we lent part of our land to is called US, not China. Remember all those US immigration officers you see at the YVR?

SkinnyPupp 12-09-2018 09:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8931850)
You know, I actually have some questions on how Canadian authorities managed to detain / arrest Meng. Supposedly, she was only transferring through the YVR terminal. I doubt the Canadian authorities would make such an elementary mistake, but depending on where exactly the arrest took place, is there any chance that Canadian authorities made the arrest outside of their jurisdiction?

Anyone familiar with how this stuff is supposed to work?

Whose jurisdiction would any part of YVR be under other than Canada's?

twitchyzero 12-09-2018 09:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hehe (Post 8931846)
I just :lawl: so hard every time Chinese demands the GOV'T to release Meng when in fact, it's already in the hands of the judicial system.

we do the same when North Korea detains Canadians/Americans

as i said previously, say China decides to pin some crime against Bill Gates' daughters or Ivanka Trump and detain them

we would be equally outraged

Traum 12-09-2018 09:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8931856)
Whose jurisdiction would any part of YVR be under other than Canada's?

Ever flown to the US via YVR?

Traum 12-09-2018 10:04 PM

Police called to attempted break in at Vancouver property owned by Huawei CFO

https://globalnews.ca/news/4745145/w...uver-break-in/

1) Meng gets arrested in Canada.
2) Someone attempts to break into "her home" in Vancouver.

The timing of the events are just far too coincidental to me.


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