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poor guy has no idea...

and also, canada are fucking scapegoats to the americans for doing this. Following USA's orders basically fucking us up with CHINA

trudeau on that short leash with trump i see....

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Originally Posted by Traum (Post 8932205)

Huawei has been dogged with security risks / spyware / backdoor loopholes accusations from Western governments for quite a while. And lately, a lot of Western countries -- including US, Britain, Australia, New Zealand, Japan, etc. -- have started banning Huawei from participating in their next gen 5G networks. One country (maybe Aussie?) even planning on phasing out their 4G network infrastructure equipment as well. I think this where the majority of their profits is made from, and it is drying up fast.

(Incidentally, Canada -- in particular, Eastern Canada -- continues to use a lot of Huawei network infrastructure equipment.)

According to news sources that I have read, Huawei's profit margins in the African and Eastern Europe markets are much smaller compared to their N.America markets.

Given the close ties to the CCP and PLA (Communist Party and People Liberation Army), Western countries would be stupid to not consider Huawei a security threat.

https://www.thestar.com/business/201...port-says.html

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Canada’s Telus Corp. and BCE Inc. may face at least $1 billion in costs if the country bans telecommunications equipment made by China’s Huawei Technologies Co. from their next generation 5G mobile networks, The Globe and Mail reported Saturday, citing unidentified people familiar with the industry.

BCE, Telus and, to a lesser extent, Rogers Communications Inc., all use Huawei equipment in their networks.

The Globe and Mail cites an unidentified telecom executive who places the cost of a Huawei ban at $500 million to $1 billion for Telus, while another unidentified person estimated it would cost BCE’s Bell Canada hundreds of millions of dollars. A third senior telecom insider, who has direct knowledge of the issue, said the total estimated cost for BCE and Telus would exceed $1 billion, it reported.

In order to remove Huawei equipment from cellular infrastructure, Bell and Telus would have to rip out and replace tens of thousands of antennas, The Globe and Mail said.

BCE and Telus declined to tell The Globe and Mail whether U.S. national security officials have asked them to avoid Huawei equipment. Rogers said it had not been contacted.

Canada has played a big role in Huawei’s research and commercialization efforts for high-speed 5G networks.

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Originally Posted by Razor Ramon HG (Post 8932262)

https://www.thestar.com/business/201...port-says.html

Whatever, the Telecoms companies are already bending us over. Whats a few more dollars a month to not sue Huawei.

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Originally Posted by shawnly1000 (Post 8932209)

Ottawa loses contact with Canadian in China who reported being questioned by Chinese

Pretty sure he won't be the last...
Just respecting "the rule of law". Nothing political lol

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Originally Posted by pastarocket (Post 8932204)

All this recent news about Chinese business groups threatening to boycott Canadian products in response to Meng's possible extradition to the US.

Canada Goose Parka's stock dropped almost 20 percent on Tuesday.

https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/huawei-f...oars-1.1181397

What's next? Maple syrup? Lumber products? :facepalm:

#FakeNews
https://i.imgur.com/dyzd7J2.png

Arrested Dec 1.
Price drop Dec 5.
#Woke

it's more like a bunch of people saying boycott S&W because #BLM

and this is the reaction price

fucking tsinks can't unite on anything except on shopping:lawl:

very interesting. What is everyones thoughts on how this may affect GVR real estate prices?

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Originally Posted by Verdasco (Post 8932256)

and also, canada are fucking scapegoats to the americans for doing this. Following USA's orders basically fucking us up with CHINA

trudeau on that short leash with trump i see....

It's called an extradition treaty, we have one with the US and we're following it and the conditions that were agreed to. It is the US's right per the treaty to do this.

We don't get to pick and choose when we get to honour it or not. There is no scapegoating or "trudeau on short leash".

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Originally Posted by Great68 (Post 8932343)

clearly you have no idea how geopolitics work

As Canadians, we always (okay, maybe not always) do the right thing. We have an agreement. Trump is an asshole, but the rest of America knows from history that we make sacrifices and do the right thing. We can be counted on. We may not have the military strength or the resources, but we will be there when needed.

Since when did chinar become a bunch of fucking cry babies. No class.

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8932356)

Since when did chinar become a bunch of fucking cry babies. No class.

LOL~ You might want to read this, MG1:

https://www.1843magazine.com/culture...s-giant-babies

I know, right? They've always been........... even back when I was enrolled in Asian Studies classes at UBC, it was a well known fact. When they know they are in the wrong, they tend to attack you for whatever reason they can think of to deflect their own assholioness.

On the world stage, china always seems to paint their own horrible picture. A country with no class. Like Trump, all the money and power can never hide who or what you really are.

It's been tough for chinar...... history of being picked on and made fun of by the west. Unlike Japan, chinar never received any respect. Now that they have all this money and power, they have an opportunity to rise up. Not doing a great job. Human rights, becoming a responsible global partner, etc.

This is what happens when countries adopt just the right aspects of capitalism and yet remain largely communist.
And are 20% of the world's population. That also helps.

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8932417)

This is what happens when countries adopt just the right aspects of capitalism and yet remain largely communist.
And are 20% of the world's population. That also helps.

Bunch off savages right?

Guessing all the folks running the big companies like Huawei are involved or directly connected with the higher ups in the government as well and you start messing with sons and daughters of highly connected people and it doesn’t help with making rational decisions and ratcheting down things.

It’s state capitalism. They aren’t “connected with the higher ups,” they are the higher ups.

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Originally Posted by Eff-1 (Post 8932219)

When she flees, hopefully they use the bail money to fix ICBC

hey, wanna know a good joke?

ICBC has already burned through more than that bail is worth since you posted your idea :awwyeah:

I think any privacy/security respecting telecom company should be removing Huawei and any Chinese telecom equipment for that matter.

The problem lies with the intelligence law in China where it can, by law, ask ANY Chinese citizen/company/entity to provide support to its need, which Huawei certainly is one regardless of its founder's tie to the Chinese army.

Huawei et al might NOT have implemented anything as of yet. However, given the law in place, there is no guarantee that Huawei won't provide the necessary backdoor if Chinese gov't give the order.

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Did you read the article above about how much that would cost? Ain’t gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8932759)

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Did you read the article above about how much that would cost? Ain’t gonna happen.

If the government mandates it -- as is already happening in a number of western countries around the world -- the telco companies will have no choice but to comply (and then pass the costs off to us while also reaping in some extra profits). So it simply becomes a matter of whether our federal government sees it as a national security issue or not.

progress is nice and makes sense to think ahead, but do Canadians really need 5G within the next 10 years?

LTE is nowhere close to being saturated afaik, and 5ms is already indiscernible

shouldn't we focus on increasing bandwidth cap first? or we gonna continue letting Robbers Communications Inc. bitch-slap us around?

I wonder what the cost of Telus/Bell reversing course vs. losing out on every government contract + any companies that deal with sensitive data would be.

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Originally Posted by buhdeh (Post 8932806)

I wonder what the cost of Telus/Bell reversing course vs. losing out on every government contract + any companies that deal with sensitive data would be.

is not just any companies sensitive data but also gov sensitive data. So yes it might cost teleco billions of dollars but for national security we should should still go ahead and remove them.

Is weird how if Huawei put the 5g hardware up for Canada as we fully know there is a national security risk and chose to do nothing about it Vs. If the company is from Russia or Iran we would have to remove in a heartbeat.