Is funny how the gov only warn people about traveling to China but doesn't do a thing. Maybe if the gov grow a backbone China would actually think twice about its action.

She was apparently a teacher who did not have the correct visa and sent to "Administrative Punishment".

https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/chi...ined-1.4953711

Wonder if this would have even made news last month?

Do you suggest the government bombs China?
How about illegally detaining Chinese citizens in Canada?
How about no longer trading with our second largest trading partner?
How about no longer allowing Chinese nationals into our country?
How about massive tariffs on Chinese products that will only hurt Canadian consumers?

Do any of those sound like a reasonable idea?
That’s the thing about people like you who constantly blindly criticize the government. Whether they do anything, nothing or something, you will have an issue with it regardless.

while i doubt it has anything to do with the case, it could still be perceived that it does. knowing that there's a spotlight on them right now, if china cared, they wouldn't even want it to look like that. so in that sense, it can be thought of as an act of aggression.

he should do something. right now he's reaching out for international support and isn't getting any call backs. pompeo made a statement once that china should release the 2 detainees but that was about all.
everyone else has been quiet as kept.
just seems kinda weak. like we can't stand up without the backing of other g7 countries

Well to be honest we can’t.
You either have financial power, or military power.
Compared to China we don’t have a shred of either. All we can is enlist the help of other countries to add up to an amount of either that will have an effect.

While I don't have any personal experience to share, based on people I talk to and from their personal experience, law enforcement in China often turns a blind eye towards a lot of things until some sort of executive order is handed down, and then they'd crack down on that particular kind of activity. So generally speaking, they don't really care what you do in China once you got in. But then if something comes up, they might come back and get you for this.

That could certainly be the case here for this Alberta woman. One of the possibilities.

trudeau was fine acting "tough" towards the US though..
maybe wasn't such a great idea

I think Canada is finally realizing the limits of "soft power". The international relations has always been a "might is right" kind of dynamic. Orgs like the UN and ICC are really just suggestions dressed up as some sort of overarching authority. In real life the only laws that apply are the laws that nation-states create for themselves. When it comes to relations between countries, there are conventions and reciprocity but no real enforcement. It's really like a Elementary school playground out there but with no teacher to enforce anything - the biggest and most aggressive bully usually gets his way unless enough other kids team up against him.

they can start by asking the Crown to reinstate the multi-year corruption/laundering probe

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...ayed-1.4923861

they appear to treat the detained canadians as enemy of the state, denying them counsel and keeping the lights on 24/7 to break them

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dipl...michael-kovrig

my instant reaction after seeing the newsbreak was that ... well china is going to start locking up Canadians

lo and behold

Many schools supposedly just tell them to come and start teaching on visitors while they get their papers processed but never do or take forever. if that's true then i feel bad for her...

Canada should not show any retaliation as i feel we still have the moral high ground by sticking to the laws of the treaty and treating meng with the same respect we treat our own citizens.

Oh gezzz we could at least have a word with the Chinese embassy and make announce it on the news that we are not happy with the way China is acting up.

US is our biggest trade partner but have Trudeau though twice about basing trump or reiterate against trump when trump increase tax on steel?

Yes let's piss off our biggest trading partner but stay silent and be soft kitty with China who is only our second biggest trading partner.

LOL is funny how you suggesting bombing China. I guess you rather Canadians who are in China suffers while you sit back and enjoy our Cheap China products coz hey is not you who China detain so why care right? A little backbone from our gov is all it needs to make China back down. Simply stop a few Chinese company take over Canadian company or even delay or cancel any gov trips to China and make it clear the trips was cancel due to the Chinese gov wronglyfuly detain Canadian citizen. Or how about since Huawei CFO Wanzhou Meng arrested in Vancouver, faces extradition to U.S we are suspending on all sales of Huawei products and the gov is considering to ban Huawei from anymore 5G contracts. Give China a wake up call if they play nice we will play nice but if not then we also have be mean as well.

But I guess you rather China walk all over us while that's happening let's Change Canada to a state of China.

China would be nothing without the production of said products. It’s a 2 way street

travel advisory is now in effect

https://travel.gc.ca/destinations/china

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/cana...laws-1.4253450

the ripple effect of Meng's arrest is certainly worse than i'd anticipated, but yeah one of the biggest international event involving our port at YVR...Poland also detained a Huawei director over espionage

Trudeau could literally fly in dangling by his ankles from a rope hanging from a helicopter, pull out the Canadian prisoners, while punching corrupt Chinese officials in the face and selling them oil by the trillion barrels over the next ten years at a higher than market price and some people would still be like "FUKIN MUSliM TerRORist JUStine TRUdEAU h8s CaNAdienS!"

Yea but Trudeau isn't going to do that.
He's not going to do anything.

I wonder how many more Canadian citizens there are in Chinese prisons on drug charges...
I sure wouldn't wanna be one of them right now.
This one was from Abbotsford too.

goes to show, if you're in a shithole like Russia, North Korea, Cuba, China etc, it's even more paramount be on your best behaviour and respect the rules of the house, kids.

becuz China enforced the death penalty on "Walter White"

he got off easy only having to serve 15years. and then fast track to re-trial and boom
death

And that will be a typical response. An excuse.
He was guilty,yes.
But he's not being sentenced to death for the crime. He's being sentenced to death for political sway.

and if he tried smuggling meth in malaysia, the noose would've already been on him

What a stupid advisory, if you don't smuggle in 200kgs of meth you won't have an issue. If you're caught with it as ANY national in China, you'll be in shit, no matter if you're Canadian, Indian, Korean, whatever. I doubt most travelers are going to be packing so much narcotics when they head over to visit.

China's rules are very clear on drug trafficking. The guy got lucky with 15 years to start, but honestly 15 years in a Chinese prison you'd probably would rather die. Drug trafficking has 0 tolerance in china, probably up there with murder. I think the guy knew the risks when he decided to take on the job.

Not really. I think China view drug trafficking worse than murder. A lot of times with murder if you have the money and status and power you can easily avoid much jail time or even have someone take your place in prison but with drugs trafficking it is much much harder to get away with.

then why not just handout a death sentence in the first place? timing is convenient to retrial with a heavy handed punishment