news agencies are reporting speculation that the exotic animal market stole animals from the government animal research facility nearby, which is like a cdc facility

these were rumours we always hear about, but for major news agencies to echo these is a bit new

south korea is slowing being infected...


reports 15 more COVID-19 cases; total now at 46

from the "28 days later" film?

My coworker who had a trip planned for Taiwan was given an ultimatum after fellow co workers told her to self quarantine herself with no pay for 2 weeks before returning to work or else theyll walk off. Workplace drama. She canceled her trip and lost money on hotels, etc.

^ sounded like a reasonable request of coworkers to have her self quarantine. Good solution in the end.

This is an example of the rights of an individual vs. the rights of the collective which many in a democracy doesn't understand.

Her co worker isn't wrong. She should self quarantine without being asked. My work sent an email saying anyone travel to China needs to self quarantine for 14 days. We can use our vacation days or sicks for it. If you ran out then it is no pay. I think is fair. Your co worker needs to think what would happen if she caught the virus and spread to the work place.

She was going to Taiwan, not China. There's not a huge breakout there. There's one cluster that keeps hitting people, but it's mostly been within one family, and is away from Taipei.

If someone told her coworkers this, and they still insisted, then they aren't being reasonable. If you're supporting this, you're just supporting the spread of misinformation and hysteria.

And that's coming from ME, you guys have seen how seriously I've been taking this.

^ I see you are one of those who don't quite understand.

No I DO understand, that's why I know it's wrong of them.

If I did NOT understand, then I would be in agreement with you.

Taiwan is part of China though. Some countries (other than China) agree to this IE Italy when they Ban Chinese from China from entering they also ban Taiwanese because according Italy Taiwan is part of China. Also a lot of airlines have listed Taiwan as part of China IE Air Canada. Do I feel Taiwan is part of China. Nope. But some people/country/company do.

Ok let’s keep THAT topic out of this thread please

So... We sending badhobz back to China yet?

badhobz "

My dad and his buddies going to Thailand Cambodia and Vietnam next week, via Manila however. Will be interesting to see what happens

It will be fine. Honestly outside is China is pretty safe (even HK).

35 confirmed in Thailand, half already out of the hospital. 3 confirmed in Philippines, 1 died, two already out of the hospital, all Chinese nationals.

Apparently Thailand has been tinkering with HIV retrovirals with some success, and Japan is putting them into clinical trial.

A buddy of theirs lives half the year in Thailand and travels around SEA to do inspections etc.

He said 95+% of people in the airports are wearing masks and they look at you as the oddball without it. Told my dad might as well not wear one because everyone is trapping all their own germs in their N95’s Kappa

I would go ape shit on the company. There is no Canadian law stating mandatory quarantine. If this is something your company is enforcing, call up worksafe. This is something your company is imposing and you better let me work from home.

If you had a client from Taiwan flying into Vancouver, are you going to say F U, sorry, we can't do business with you until you quarantine yourself... ... total BS.

Turns out a guy I knew from college, his parents are on the Diamond Princess in Japan. As of a couple days ago, they're not infected, but I guess their vacation's continuing in Cornwall for another 2 week quarantine.

your coworkers have a right to a safe workplace...don't be that guy
we're gonna ask our colleague to consider staying home after returning from japan

taiwan now has 2 dozen cases and its 2nd case of unknown origin (they've identified 360 people she's come in contact with)
they're taking it very seriously but still not contained yet
honestly i wouldnt even wanna hang around yvr's international terminal these days
and yes i've cancelled my family's taiwan trip that was supposed to start in a fortnight

^ This.

Taiwan reports first death from coronavirus
https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...om-coronavirus

A taxi driver has died from the coronavirus in Taiwan, marking the first such death on the island and the fifth fatality outside mainland China from an epidemic that has curbed travel and disrupted global supply chains.

The man who died had not travelled abroad recently and was a taxi driver whose clients were mainly from Hong Kong, Macau and mainland China, the minister said. One of his family members was also confirmed to have the virus.

Looks like hysteria is hitting the fan here too eh...

worksafe can't do anything in this matter as it only deals w/ injuries and making work environment safer (its a grievance against the company, so human rights tribunal, maybe). frankly, take the fact out that its ur friend, as a head of the company (or coworker) i wouldn't want to deal with someone potentially bringing in virus from outside, and sending everybody else in dept they work (or potentially whole ) office home to quarantine. they are cases here that it happened.

Besides i would cancel my own vacation cause they are chances of picking this up in asia. not only on the ground but by travelling in a closed tube for 9-10 hours.

and yes, i have worked in healthcare industry for last 10 years

There is some truth to your statement as it's only health and injuries. If there is a sexual assault, wages miscalculation, harassment, and discriminatory issues, they are there to help. You can actually submit a claim because due the CONVID situation, they are refusing to pay you which is refusal of payment.

On a separate note.
Shop owner "Owner is heart broken, deals for everyone" which in fact means.... they are over stocked....
Just yesterday, they were selling 2 for $80
https://i.ibb.co/d65Xtk5/1.png

Normally this wouldn't matter in Vancouver, but in HK, when humidity kicks in...
https://i.ibb.co/KwX7dYQ/2.png

That's what my friend did (he is a immigration consultant)and he clearly stated on his wechat and social media he is not accepting any new case at least till march. Currently case he is working on clients can call or video chat but if they need to see him they can but have to let him know in advance. So is not BS.

You can call worksafe if you like about it but try putting yourself in your friend's manager shoe would you rather have one person self quarantine for 14 days or would you rather have the whole office complain and possible walk out of work (job action). Would you rather risk the part of the office/whole office getting infected? Let's just say your friend refuse to self quarantine and still goes to work how do you think her co worker will act? Do you think they will still want to work with her? Rat on her maybe as soon as she did something wrong, give her the cold stare. How would she survive at her work when most of her co workers refuse to work with her? She is not going to have a fun time at all.

Beside she is the one who decides to travel. No one forces her to. When my company stated that anyone traveling to China we will have to self quarantine for 14 days using my own vacation or sick days and if I have none then is no pay I am fine with it. I was planning to travel back to China in March (Not anymore flight got cancel). I 100% is willing to stay home for 14 after I come back with no pay. Is my choice to travel back and I don't want to spread the coronavirus to anyone at work if I do get it. It is also a respect to my co workers.

You have a lot of wisdom MrHappyslip. Some people can only go apeshit and think about what is 'legal' but you obviously have experience working with real life situations and people.