That doesn’t really make sense. As soon as some of it evaporates it brings the alcohol content down to the “desired” level, then it magically doesn’t dissolve? I’m betting it has more to do with health reasons or safety vs. it’s inability to kill germs.

Don't sweat it ... there is a run on > 90% isopropyl alcohol at pharmacies. You're too late to make your own brew.

looks like the whole panic buying has already started. Ive been through 4 different big box groceries and all of them are sold out on rice and Spam. only the small bags of brown rice are left.

The outbreak will be in US, it's inveitable. US has no money, shit affordable health care for the public (lots of private), and inability to lock down.

What happens if I'm poor. Will I go to the doctors. NO. Just suck it up with tyleno / over the counter drugs to minimize the cough.

Each person has to be TESTED to see if it is actually COVID-19.
This is where the grey area comes in... If you die of pneumonia, ARDS (Acute respiratory distress syndrome), kidney failure and doesn't get tested... well they just died of pneumonia.

This is why WHO is asking US to hand over the data.

US doesn't have the money + time + ability to lock down... I want to see what the real numbers are from US (327.2 million people and only 60 cases???)

Pic below is Feb 27 2020
https://cdn.images.express.co.uk/img...=1582813600005

Going around the grocery store today everything looked like normal, so if you're worried and don't mind a road trip...

You know what..... it's something I was NEVER ever taught. I didn't know we are to cough at your elbows. I certainly did not learn it in Hong Kong, my parents never did. If it wasn't a pre-school teacher telling me this in my 20s. I wouldn't know.

To this date, my parents still do not know... I don't blame them... they have been coughing (when they are sick) at their palms for 60 yrs... it's hard to break a habit you know.

This dude... National TV... negative for Corona Virus... cough cough... cough cough... not with elbows... and HE out of ANYONE should know better.
* ANY he grabs the water bottle
:rukidding:

Walmart in tsawassen mills has tons of 91% and 70% isopropyl. No hand sanitizer though. I swear the buying and stocking up pandemic is only prevalent in Richmond/Vancouver/Burnaby

I saw a picture today that the Costco in Richmond was sold out of toilet paper and some were even seen buying mini fridges while stock piling slabs of meat.

imagine if asians in vancouver and richmond were the only ones that survived because they pandemic prepped and the rest of us thought they'd be the first to go

People are just stupid. There are still lot's of stock in Coq. Wife and I just goes buy what we need and stock up on items that we do use and is on sale. Is funny seeing people buying 5 bags of rice as once and they can't even lift it up for the cashier to scan at T and T.

Google came up with this
https://blog.gotopac.com/2017/05/15/...-ipa-used-for/

"The presence of water is a crucial factor in destroying or inhibiting the growth of pathogenic microorganisms with isopropyl alcohol. Water acts as a catalyst and plays a key role in denaturing the proteins of vegetative cell membranes. 70% IPA solutions penetrate the cell wall more completely which permeates the entire cell, coagulates all proteins, and therefore the microorganism dies. Extra water content slows evaporation, therefore increasing surface contact time and enhancing effectiveness. Isopropyl alcohol concentrations over 91% coagulate proteins instantly. Consequently, a protective layer is created which protects other proteins from further coagulation.

Solutions > 91% IPA may kill some bacteria, but require longer contact times for disinfection, and enable spores to lie in a dormant state without being killed. A 50% isopropyl alcohol solution kills Staphylococcus Aureus in less than 10 seconds (pg. 238), yet a 90% solution with a contact time of over two hours is ineffective. Some disinfectants will kill spores with exposures times that exceed 3-12 hours, which are classified as chemical sterilants. So why do higher alcohol solutions yield fewer results for bactericidal and antimicrobial outcomes?"

I'm not saying everyone here should panic buy, but do make sure you have enough food for an extra week or so, in case stores do run out temporarily. We didn't get in on the panic buy on rice, and had just enough to last before stocks showed up again, only because we also had some white folks carbs like pasta and potatoes.

This is the real reason, it's not the % of alcohol, but rather the higher presence of H2O. ~70% is the perfect balance between efficiency and potency.

higher concentrations are made generally for a different purpose, generally to clean/disinfect things that are water sensitive.

Again, this afternoon at 2pm, there were tons of people at the otherwise "less" busy Lougheed Costco. Generally, it was folks with kids and elderly people stocking up, myself included.

Panic buying hasn't started imo...people are preparing, but it's still very orderly. Returned to Costco at Lougheed this afternoon to grab a couple other things and they too were out of Lysol wipes. Seems Downtown, Richmond, Lougheed and Willingdon are all out of Lysol wipes.

Both the Pho noodle bowls and Nong Shim bowls were completely sold out as well lol.

But there's still plenty of stock of TP etc...

https://i.imgur.com/yBy3bG4.jpg

The pho bowls went on sale?

There's no MSG in those ones apparently. I was waiting for them to go on sale to keep some at work for the "didn't bring lunch but not wanting to pay for cafeteria food" days.

how much freaking noodles can people eat? OMG.

think tuna cans and stuff would be first to go.. not freaking ramen

#asians

Based on what I see in carts at the grocery store, there are people who live on instant noodles.

Brighton Avenue Costco still sane............ smaller location, so perhaps they're out of items, as well. I was at Still Creek yesterday and there was a whole pallet of lysol wipes. Mind you, they never bring down pallets from the upper shelves during shopping hours, due to safety regulations. Go in the morning.

Gotta keep those tapeworms happy!

Damnit! Chemistry strikes again!

I really cant imagine a pandemic if there was it will be crazy. Man do you guys remember the salt shortage and how crazy ppl got fighting over salt during the winter of 2017...........this will get out of hand.

Since it came from an animal, can the virus be transmitted to say a mouse/rat? Say infected person leaves left overs mouse eats it, gets sick, travels around the house eats something left out then another person eats that food and gets sick?

Costco Richmond is the busiest Costco in North America though (according to the yearly Costco reps who visit the office).

Omg.. End of humanity.. And beyond.
Gonna be a never ending cycle..
:heckno:

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