These next couple weeks are crucial. We can atleast have a partial shutdown with minimum wage jobs, schools, restaurants, malls, etc. They're already suffering from the lack of business. Just pull the plug on them and give them 100% employment insurance.

Other jobs like trades can close a little later depending on the conditions. All I'm saying is let's be proactive instead of reactive.

I see discord increased channel size from 10 to 50 to allow people to do virtual classrooms if needed. This is what I like to see companies looking for ways to help, even though it's a small thing it's a good idea. Good on you Discord.

It won't kill most of the young people, so they still have to pay bills. That's why you see the younger population risk it.

Young people suffer financially, older people suffer in terms of health.

If your an organ donor and you die from the virus, do they still transplant the organs to other people or are the organs disqualified?

You think they're going to do any of that?
Countries weren't just "lucky". The ones that didn't test and monitor to extent restricted flights and their border, If not closing them completely.
Which, as you know, we have still done neither.

Canada's "enhanced screening measures" consist of a touchscreen questionnaire and a pamphlet. Sometimes not even that. And we're talking about people coming back from highly infected areas.

https://montreal.citynews.ca/video/2...-no-screening/

What i find really upsetting about this is that Canada had a much further head start than other countries and its been squandered completely.
The combination of a lack of transparency and action is probably the worst way of handling this.
But I'm not surprised in the least.

Are you going to also pay the business owners? Closing down malls would also mean closing down pharmacies and some doctor's offices.

We can atleast start the discussion on what we can close first or close everything all together. We have many countries we can model ourselves too.

Sacrifices and hard decisions need to be made now

Manic!, I'd just like to take this moment to thank you, and all those others like you, who have continued to defend this government after bungling just about every state of affairs that's been thrown at them.

In a few weeks time, when we're taking much more drastic measures than those that should have been taken in preparation, and people in dire need of healthcare are being turned away, I'm sure you'll still be praising the terrific job they've done.

No matter what happens you will blame the Liberal government. How is your outlook any more valid?

Not Apple to Apple, but I feel like this is a situation where you have a family member who has a terminal illness. How do you do you decide how much resources you want to put in to keep them alive? (You’re just a regular family)

I’m not suggesting answers or correct solutions.

And if you can't be critical of this government's clear failure at handling this very foreseeable issue, then you are wearing the heaviest prescription of partisan glasses I've witnessed.

Trump dropped the ball HARD on testing. But at least they restricted travel promptly from countries with high rates.

200 yesterday morning. 313 this morning.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6680382/c...ealth-officer/

ottawa will have a mechanism in place to easily lend money to businesses
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/cov...kage-1.5496928

for the individuals/families that dont have a rainy day fund...this will be a hard lesson to learn...let's hope EI can get them through

but anyone trying put economy before communtiy health should try working on the front lines in italy/iran/hubei if they're gonna say this virus is nbd

a physician working near milan tells his story (translated)...people that help others fight the virus for weeks without seeing their own family in times of crisis
https://www.reddit.com/r/medicine/co...ergamo_in_the/

This has nothing to do with partisanship you cucumber.
This has to do with the fact that really, nobody knows what the appropriate course of action is, as this is an unprecedented worldwide event in our lifetimes. You have absolutely no idea what the appropriate course of action is. Neither do I. If you want to know how to butcher a pig, I'll show you. If I want to know how to change my hedgasket, I'll ask you. But neither of us have a fucking clue what the appropriate measures are for this situation, because besides the medical implications, there are MASSIVE financial implications as well that could cause more harm long term than even this disease if things get under control. Then we will get to hear from welfare in "the Canadian recession thread" about how the liberal governments overreaction to the covid-19 epidemic caused Canada's financial collapse. Your formula isn't subtle.

France shut themselves down as much as possible: https://www.nst.com.my/world/world/2...-deaths-hit-91

What boggles my mind is all the people who seem completely oblivious and are going around like everything is normal. Meanwhile other people/businesses are shutting down or isolating as much as possible.

This seems relevant given the opposing views in here.

https://i.imgur.com/0FpznWh.png

Canada's own government website states that 79% of cases are due to travel.
Yet there have been no travel restrictions placed thus far. Only "recommendations" and "advisories".
But i guess you'd need to be a mathematician to understand that 2+2=4.

Of course the cases came from travel! Not even hipsters are eating bats in Canada.

What happened to personal responsibility? If a vaccine is created should everyone be forced to take it?

What a joke.

Once Manic! and Welfare starts at it in a thread, it's like a bad virus.

US Fed just cut the rate to effective 0

https://www.surreynowleader.com/news...-for-covid-19/

Passenger on Vancouver-Kelowna flight tests positive for COVID-19

Honestly, I'm not even..

My wife has been dealing with complications the last few years. She's scheduled for a hysterectomy in April. I doubt it's gonna happen. Which is fine by comparison.
She'll live.
But I'm sure there are members on this site,and many Canadians in general, with family who deal with critical health problems.
When our ICU's become so overwhelmed, and they're treating patients in hallways, with personnel and equipment stretched beyond their limits, I'm not so sure about what'll happen to them.

So yea, I'm not too concerned about replying to some forum troll atm.

This is an excellent read. Whenever I hear someone talk about the "panic" and "don't panic" I want to slap them upside the head.

We need to REACT, what these idiots are calling "panic" or we are truly fucked. Actually we need to do what seems like OVERREACT.

I hope some of them are still lurking. I see them failing smart posts, so I know they're still here.

I think if more unfiltered footage came out of Wuhan, along with actual statistics, people might be taking this a bit more seriously. Probably not though...

Not me!

This is a little close for comfort though I flew YVR to YLW the next day :badpokerface: