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Is it happening more now or is it just filmed more?
I realize that fact that it happens at all is a black eye but you’d have to think things have improved
I agree with this in a lot of ways... things have improved, it's just everything is scrutinized and shared in ways it never was before.
I mean I grew up in the 80's and there were so many cool black guys I looked up to in basketball, baseball, Mr. T in A-Team, wrestling, rappers, Lando in Star Wars......... those are just a few examples off the top of my head. I never thought of them as black even back in those days. I just thought they were cool characters and yah they happened to be black.
Have we not progressed at all since then? I would assume so... maybe I'm wrong?
Not even sure what my point is... but damn so many racists in the USA seem to be my age (40-ish) and older so I find it surprising it persists considering the culture we grew up in was already getting pretty friendly to that culture.
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I think the public perception is a very disturbing part of this. You have people standing with guns blocking hospital entrances, threatening frontline workers over being told to wear a mask and being told they have to wait a month to get a haircut, and the outrage over the behaviour was not 1% of this. Risking people’s lives over something that trivial is far worse than the byproduct (Looting) of those riots.
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
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Im actually kinda glad this shit is happening. It shows that the people are no longer willing to bend over and take it up the ass anymore. You see all those movies where they show the future all being fucked up with cops having very limited to no power. Its where we're headed if they dont smarten up.
There's been riots before, worse ones, hasn't changed a thing in the us
Wife of officer charged with murder of George Floyd announces she's divorcing him
"Her utmost sympathy lies with [Floyd's] family, with his loved ones and with everyone who is grieving this tragedy," a statement from Chauvin's attorney read in part.
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Suspected shoplifter is involved in a struggle with store security, ends up dying after police handcuff him.
Store security always think they're Rambo, so I wonder what happened... IIO is investigating the police conduct, which doesn't help if it's the fault of security, wonder what if we'll hear about the coroner's investigstion
Surrey, B.C. – The Independent Investigations Office (IIO) of BC is investigating an incident in Richmond.
Information provided by the RCMP indicates that on May 28, 2020 at approximately 7:35 p.m., officers responded to a report of a man, the affected person in this case, who was alleged to be engaged in a struggle at a business near the intersection of Steveston Highway and Number 5 Road in Richmond. Upon arrival, officers placed the man in handcuffs and found the man to be in medical distress. Officers began CPR and called Emergency Health Services, who provided further medical assistance for approximately 45 minutes before transporting the man to the hospital. The man was pronounced deceased shortly after arriving at the hospital.
The IIO is asking that any person who saw, heard or recorded the incident to contact the IIO Witness Line toll free at 1-855-446-8477.
The IIO will investigate to determine what role, if any, the officers’ actions or inaction may have played into the death of the male. The RCMP is currently investigating the circumstances surrounding the man’s death, and the BC Coroners Service will investigate to determine how, where, when and by what means he came to his death.
I mean they probably talked about it after the incident seeing how it blew up knowing his arrest was coming and it's a way to separate her from him, try and protect assets from incoming lawsuit and hopefully keep people from taking it out on her and their home.
It doesn't really matter, she's not the one that did the deed but honestly it's probably nothing more than giving the optics of separation regardless if it's legit or not.
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If we didn't have a video of the shooting that happened in Georgia, none of us would know it even happened.
The real problem as I've said before, is white supremacy, white nationalists, have been infiltrating every level of government for many decades within the States.
The guy who shot Mr. Arbery was a racist ex-cop. Two district attorneys tried to cover the crime up (they are now being investigated by federal and state authorities). If the video on this crime didn't go viral, both McMichaels would likely have never been arrested.
That's the problem here, these people are in every level of government. From the beat cops, to the district attorneys, to the judges.
What people fail to realize is that the civil war has never truly ended. This idea of "State Rights" is fundamentally tied to the idea of white supremacy, and the allowance of such Jim Crow laws. This is why they vehemently fight the idea of a Federal Government. I don't support the FBI as they have their own racial issues, but without such apparatus, many of these States would simply run roughshod.
I truly am exhausted and tired of seeing this happen, when will there be real change? We need accountability, we need many people in their positions removed entirely, which won't happen. I don't want this story to become another forgotten one in which we'll be talking about something else in a few weeks.
I fully support the rioting as well. What has peaceful protests done? Absolutely nothing. StylinRed made a great point, target governmental building, hit them where it economically hurts.
You burn down that police station and cars, less budget for the force, less jobs for the cops, less raises, maybe then you'll see some officers eschew their gangster mentality of the "thin blue line", and hold their fellow officers accountable for these actions.
You had 4 officers on George Floyd, including that feckless Thao officer. Not one of them told "officer" Chauvin to lay off the man, not a simple one of them. Where is the human compassion? Why do the police act as though they are a gang, and that no matter what action, they must defend their fellow officer's terrible actions?
If you have a buddy in a fist fight, and he's won the fight, and continues to hit the guy, you would stop him, tell him to lay off. Why do we never see such actions by the police? Where are the morals, where is the integrity and backbone that they should so hold in such a position?
White Americans know full well the power and privilege they have over black people, Asian people, Mexicans or any other people who are born with a different skin tone or any minority/ marginal group.
Exhibit A: White cop has a knee on black man's neck (who was handcuffed in the back and pinned to the ground) with both hands in his pocket as the camera rolls, for over 8 minutes, over 2 of those after the dude visibly appeared to be unresponsive. All the while with multiple people pleading with him. Even with the video, they have medical examiner blaming it on "pre-existing conditions". This is how they get off scot-free. So your video don't matter.
Exhibit B: "White Karen" Amy Cooper called the cop on a black dude bird-watching because he told her to leash her dog and start filming her when she refused to in the middle of Central Park using the phrase "black man threatening". This happens on the same day of the George Floyd murder.
That's the kind of impunity that tells you: "I'm safe, I'm powerful, I'm protected. I'm gonna kill/have you killed because I didn't like the way you responded to me".
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Exhibit B: "White Karen" Amy Cooper called the cop on a black dude bird-watching because he told her to leash her dog and start filming her when she refused to in the middle of Central Park using the phrase "black man threatening". This happens on the same day of the George Floyd murder.
That's the kind of impunity that tells you: "I'm safe, I'm powerful, I'm protected. I'm gonna kill/have you killed because I didn't like the way you responded to me".
Her 911 call was quite shocking, especially how she acted more, n more in distress. However, after reading the guys description of what happened before he started to film, I can understand why she called 911, it doesn't excuse that she basically tried to have him killed, but still.
St. Paul Mayor Melvin Carter III said that, although there weren’t as many addresses in his city on the comparatively quiet Friday night, “every single person” that was taken into custody was from out of state.
Gov. Walz at one point Saturday morning suggested that the people doing the violence are estimated to be about 80% from out of state, and 20% from within, and told reporters they will be releasing names and background information on those arrested.
“The militarization of civilian population is a deep concern,” Walz said. “If you are on the street tonight, it is very clear: you are not with us. You do not share our values. And we will use the full strength of goodness and righteousness to make sure that this ends.”
I'm sure someone will have the idea that they just let the locals go, but bear in mind that even if that was the case for non-locals to be getting arrested non-locals have to be showing up.
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Here we go ... a major protest in a democratic country. Let's see how the US treats the protesters vs. China ... and no, before some simpletons reduce this to Pro-China anti-China, it isn't and I'm not. If anything, we get to see the different approaches, if any.
So far, in week 1 - States called National Guard, use of tear gas, rubber bullets, curfew imposed, protesters arrested, attack dogs protect the White House, arrest of a black CNN reporter.
Here we go ... a major protest in a democratic country. Let's see how the US treats the protesters vs. China ... and no, before some simpletons reduce this to Pro-China anti-China, it isn't and I'm not. If anything, we get to see the different approaches, if any.
So far, in week 1 - States called National Guard, use of tear gas, rubber bullets, curfew imposed, protesters arrested, attack dogs protect the White House, arrest of a black CNN reporter.
Helpful to also point out how quickly the protest turn violent in the states vs Hong Kong.
Trying to be Being objective here. Force from the police only happen after the protest turn violent and that goes for both stateside and in Hong Kong
The degree of violent form police and the protestor on the state side is also 10x that of the Hong Kong. At least at the current stage
all for peaceful protests, but looting and vandalism is just stupid.
america needs a distraction and something to unite from this, china will probably be it.
I see practically no difference between the way the US cops are acting and the way HK cops are acting (edit: except those cops holding the sign in KC - let's see them actually take action against their peers though). And I have seen footage literally every day for the last year.
I've seen that scene at least 1000 times in Hong Kong. Cop gets mouthy with protester or press, loses their cool, and shoots at them and/or everyone else around. One reporter lost an eye because of it.
They just attack people indiscriminately because they can. They are abusing people, it must give them boners or something. I can't even guess what makes these people act so cruel. Some of them must be "normal people" deep inside somewhere.
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What did happen before the 911 call?
They were supposedly alone in that part of the park, and he confronted her about leashing her dog, she said her dog needs exercise, and the dog parks are closed due to covid, he said she could go to some other neighbourhood, she said it's not safe in that area.
So the guy says (this is his description of events remember) "if you're going to do what you want to do, then I'm going to do what I want to, and you're not going to like it..." he then proceeds to try and lure her dog over
She screams "get away from my dog"
That's also when the video begins
Now, I don't believe bird boy was going to do anything, but I can understand why she called 911, albeit she brought race and her acting skills into it
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