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teggy604 03-02-2023 07:36 AM

What makes everyone so sure that in a few yrs even with all the retool pieces EP40 will resign with this shit organization?

He seems like he gets along with Horvat a lot better than Miller. And if this team is not competitive hes asking for a trade out.

winson604 03-02-2023 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teggy604 (Post 9092125)
What makes everyone so sure that in a few yrs even with all the retool pieces EP40 will resign with this shit organization?

He seems like he gets along with Horvat a lot better than Miller. And if this team is not competitive hes asking for a trade out.

We aren't but pretty sure if we gutted out team he would 100% for sure not resign.

68style 03-02-2023 07:57 AM

re-sign = new contract
resign = quit

:)

6thGear. 03-02-2023 08:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alpine (Post 9092110)
100%.
Petey is 24 and Hughes is 23. Drafting an 18-year-old kid doesn't help (unless it's a generational talent like Bedard which we are unlikely to get). We have so many holes that we'll need to hit the jackpot on several top 5 picks in a row to properly rebuild. But even if we hit the jackpot, by the time these kids are ready to contribute (ie. 21+) Petey and Hughes will be 28-30 (Not that they would've stayed for a rebuild anyways). The timeline to rebuild doesn't work.

I was about to post the same. Hughes and Petey are on the upswing of their prime. We can't waste the next 3-5 yrs on a rebuild. However if the team is still shit, that's when the timeliness lines up for an actual rebuild.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 9092116)
16 pp pts though... and he's probably not going to get any pp time with Hughes being on it.

Yes and no. He's an added option to make PP1 setup look different or he can anchor PP2

Quote:

Originally Posted by teggy604 (Post 9092125)
What makes everyone so sure that in a few yrs even with all the retool pieces EP40 will resign with this shit organization?

He seems like he gets along with Horvat a lot better than Miller. And if this team is not competitive hes asking for a trade out.

Because if this team doesn't make an effort to try to build around him and Hughes to be even somewhat competitive he would most def walk. 2 seasons ago during an interview, Horvat basically called out the management during a press how they need to do something as they're tired of losing.

These guys aren't gonna sit around and wait it out. If they're 20 then perhaps.

pastarocket 03-02-2023 10:47 AM

That was a quick trade of Quick haha.

Quickie gets traded to the Jackets and then to the Golden Knights.

https://www.sportsnet.ca/nhl/article...uiring-goalie/

bobbinka 03-02-2023 12:05 PM


-won't be here for a rebuild
-has played with 80 players this year
-still mentions losing Tanev

mb_ 03-02-2023 12:33 PM

"We need a RH Defenseman ASAP and at all costs!"

*gets RHD*

"wE oVeRpAiD!"

"z0mg Chychrun only cost an additional 2nd round pick, we should've gotten him instead!!11!!1!!"

*If Chychrun was acquired instead if Hronek*

"OMG WHY DID WE GET AN LH DEFENSEMAN???"


Basically what has happened in the last 24 hours :lol

68style 03-02-2023 12:45 PM

I don't think 99% of Canucks fans were saying we need a RHD at all costs... or even significant cost.

The team does need one, every team needs one, but this particular team isn't suddenly going to be contenders with one.

pastarocket 03-02-2023 01:09 PM

The problem with the Canucks' defence is that the two veteran d-men on this team are some of their worst players.

Tyler Myers is a 6 foot 8 foot marshmallow. -softer than a roll of Charmin toilet paper.

Forget about being a shut down defenceman. Myers won't even use his size to clear out opposing players in front of Demko on a consistent basis.

I remember a recent road game that the Canucks played against Nashville.

A Preds forward had multiple chances to score on Silovs because Myers just stood in front of the goalie instead of putting that Nashville player's ass on the ice!

Sure enough, that Nashville player scored a goal by being able to stand in front of the goalie.

OEL plays out of position frequently. A big minus player on the team.
A cap hit of $8.25 million and Myers average annual salary of 6 million per season make these underachieving bozos hard to trade away.

OEL also has a full no trade clause.

It doesn't matter that much if the Canucks acquire Hronek if the team still has dead weight with Myers and OEL on the team.

Who is the shut down defenceman for the team? Can Hronek do the job as a shut down d-man and contribute offensively?

Tocchet mentioned that Hronek has a bomb of a shot at the point. How good a defender is Hronek though?

bobbinka 03-02-2023 01:10 PM

Giving up a 1st from this year's draft is steep. they could've negotiated conditions on the 1st, like... if NYI's pick is this year's, then we keep it and they get our next year's, or if it's next's year they only get the lower pick between NYI and ours.

Heck, this could've waited till end of season to get a better idea of where our picks were going to be.

teggy604 03-02-2023 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 9092129)
re-sign = new contract
resign = quit

:)

Good catch ;p

Alpine 03-02-2023 03:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bobbinka (Post 9092165)
https://twitter.com/Canucks/status/1631383412639690752

-won't be here for a rebuild
-has played with 80 players this year
-still mentions losing Tanev

Quinn says fuck your rebuild. Love it lol.

The best case would be for the team to agree to tank the rest of the year to improve our chances at Bedard but we can't do that. In either case, we have < 2 years to convince Petey to stay. If he leaves, #teamrebuild will get their rebuild by default.

We will need to dump Myers, buy out OEL, and hope Demko gets back to the Demko of old if we have a chance at re-signing Petey.

SkinnyPupp 03-02-2023 06:14 PM

That was nice, RIP Gino

SkinnyPupp 03-02-2023 06:16 PM

What's with the wieners yelling "free!" during the anthem? Is that a Canucks thing? Free Bruce? He's already gone!

SkinnyPupp 03-02-2023 06:19 PM

GG

MG1 03-02-2023 06:29 PM

Free..............dom.

SkinnyPupp 03-02-2023 06:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 9092205)
Free..............dom.

Ah yes, the repressed truckers in the crowd. Good call

Hondaracer 03-02-2023 08:19 PM

I thought Miller was “week to week” ?

bobbinka 03-02-2023 08:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 9092216)
I thought Miller was “week to week” ?

It's a miracle

whitev70r 03-02-2023 09:06 PM

Boeser is a Minnesota boy .. he was hoping that he could be traded tonight and go home with his new team!

spoon.ek9 03-02-2023 09:33 PM

he had a noticeable bounce in his step. potentially showing minny he's got what they need? :lol

tr0ubl3s0m3x 03-02-2023 11:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 9092205)
Free..............dom.

Ever since they had crowds back, the emphasis of "free" during the anthem is loud

bobbinka 03-03-2023 07:57 AM

Miller's miraculous recovery:

Dreger reports that the Canucks and Pens were working on a Miller deal, but Canucks turned down the offer when the return was only multiple draft picks, they wanted a young C.

"The Pens, for desperation, took a hard run at JT Miller. And Vancouver just said ‘we like the offer, we just can’t take it’ because it was draft picks, ‘we need a centreman and we’re not rebuilding in Vancouver and JT is gonna be a big part of our future"

pastarocket 03-03-2023 08:03 AM

Lazar is traded to Jersey.

GM Patrik Allvin announced today that the Vancouver Canucks have acquired a fourth-round pick in the 2024 NHL Entry Draft from the New Jersey Devils in exchange for F Curtis Lazar.


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