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Hondaracer 11-15-2008 05:32 PM

Salo and pyatt out for the goal... Wierd

ienhz 11-15-2008 05:36 PM

Damn I would've liked to see the shutout to humiliate the Leafs and their fans.

Hondaracer 11-15-2008 05:38 PM

salo in the box and pyatt loses his stick for the 2nd goal...weird!!

CRS 11-15-2008 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by ienhz (Post 6123605)
Damn I would've liked to see the shutout to humiliate the Leafs and their fans.

2 points is 2 points... hopefully

Tim Budong 11-15-2008 05:39 PM

stajan kicked it
he kicked it
arghhh

that leafs fan should shutup

mako 11-15-2008 05:45 PM

boooooo ruined the shutout

ienhz 11-15-2008 05:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6123608)
salo in the box and pyatt loses his stick for the 2nd goal...weird!!

Salo was a -2 tonight :(

Guess we did pretty good without Bieksa and Edler.

Soundy 11-15-2008 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6123563)
If Mike Gillis is actually going to play "money ball" as he's said he plans to in his GM position, next year Pyatt and Salo will be gone.

And exactly how does Pyatt and Salo's continued tenure relate to Gillis playing "money ball"?

Ignoring for a moment the fact that he can't spend more than the cap permits anyway, this statement doesn't even make sense.

Hondaracer 11-15-2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6123632)
And exactly how does Pyatt and Salo's continued tenure relate to Gillis playing "money ball"?

Ignoring for a moment the fact that he can't spend more than the cap permits anyway, this statement doesn't even make sense.

his whole "money ball" philosophy is based on models of Baseball General managers, the "money" aspect of it doesnt have as much to do with the managing as the practice of constantly moving players and cycling positions until a player fits in said position, picking up contracts, etc.

clearly having a player like Pyatt take up 3.5 on the cap regardless of wether we are up against it or not is in no way an effective approach at puting us in a position to succeed.

Harvey Specter 11-15-2008 06:23 PM

Great game, too bad Lu didn't get his shutout.

wahyinghung 11-15-2008 10:55 PM

^ yup damn and it is pretty much all earlier starts on the road starting on Monday damn gonna miss all those games...........

Harvey Specter 11-16-2008 12:12 AM

NYR game should be good.

AzNightmare 11-16-2008 12:34 AM

I've always thought there was some "hockey code" in playing defense that when the goaltender loses his stick, the defensemen gives the stick to the goalie. And the same that a forward would give a stick to a defensemen. Well I don't see it happening anymore these days. Maybe it doesn't matter so much between the forward and defensemen, but I really do think a Dman should give his stick to the goalie when he loses it. I guess being down 5 on 3, there wasn't a safe oppurtunity to do it.

GFunk 11-16-2008 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 6124011)
I've always thought there was some "hockey code" in playing defense that when the goaltender loses his stick, the defensemen gives the stick to the goalie. And the same that a forward would give a stick to a defensemen. Well I don't see it happening anymore these days. Maybe it doesn't matter so much between the forward and defensemen, but I really do think a Dman should give his stick to the goalie when he loses it. I guess being down 5 on 3, there wasn't a safe oppurtunity to do it.

It does happen still. I think it was Salo who was without a stick on one play today and he grabbed one from a forward

agentcloud 11-16-2008 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 6124011)
I've always thought there was some "hockey code" in playing defense that when the goaltender loses his stick, the defensemen gives the stick to the goalie. And the same that a forward would give a stick to a defensemen. Well I don't see it happening anymore these days. Maybe it doesn't matter so much between the forward and defensemen, but I really do think a Dman should give his stick to the goalie when he loses it. I guess being down 5 on 3, there wasn't a safe oppurtunity to do it.

lol.. it's not really a "hockey code." it's just called common sense.

ChaKo 11-16-2008 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by jah (Post 6123982)
NYR game should be good.

http://www.straight.com/files/imagec...ports_2134.jpg

SR604 11-16-2008 04:29 AM

LOL i like how he wrote "we'll 'c' who wins" on the 19th (refering to markus naslund)

b0unce. [?] 11-16-2008 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by SR604 (Post 6124121)
LOL i like how he wrote "we'll 'c' who wins" on the 19th (refering to markus naslund)

yeah, that was the joke...

:P

ww 11-16-2008 11:29 AM

I think it's funnier that there's a coffee stain on the Leafs logo lol.

CRS 11-16-2008 12:56 PM

Anyone have the link for the jerseys?

Noir 11-16-2008 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6123563)
If Mike Gillis is actually going to play "money ball" as he's said he plans to in his GM position, next year Pyatt and Salo will be gone.

It's hard to say in a 4-0 game but the effort shown by both those players is disgusting, Pyatt once again is chasing down errant pucks using energy with no result and no physical exsertion against the oposition, he skates for the point of "showing" effort with no results

like WTF was with that offiside where Salo gave up on the play thinking it was offside withouting seeing a call, hearing a whistle, etc.

Pyatt's been in the front of the net for 3 different occasions and 2 of them he didnt have his stick on the ice so obviously he didnt even get a chance at getting the puck, and the third time he was tied up and looked like he was locked up in a straight jacket

PYATT CANT SKATE! he has stone hands, and the guy brings -nothing- it's an absolute joke that burrows is making the money he is while players like pyatt milk a good season and bring less then nothing to the table

as for Salo i knew he was finished when he was quoted as saying he doesnt like letting the cannon go from the point because he's "scared that he could hurt somone"

well clearly the cannon isnt going to hurt anyone when your shooting 4 feet wide

THEY GOTTA GO! I'M LAYIN THE HAMMER DOWN BABYYYYY!!

Agree 100% on Pyatt but disagree strongly on Salo. So many other teams would love to pick that guy up and pay a $4 - $5 mill easy on him.

iwantaskyline 11-16-2008 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6123642)
his whole "money ball" philosophy is based on models of Baseball General managers, the "money" aspect of it doesnt have as much to do with the managing as the practice of constantly moving players and cycling positions until a player fits in said position, picking up contracts, etc.

clearly having a player like Pyatt take up 3.5 on the cap regardless of wether we are up against it or not is in no way an effective approach at puting us in a position to succeed.

You got the concept of "moneyball" that Gillis wants to use all wrong. Constantly moving players is not going to work in this NHL, just look at all the long term contracts being handed out. It's all about player development, scientifically analyzing player stats that aren't traditionally analyzed. For example in baseball, traditionally a players talent was analyzed with stolen bases, runs batted in, and batting average but with moneyball on base percentage and slugging percentage were used to analyze a players ability. Cheaper players were signed by the Oakland A's using this method.

SumAznGuy 11-16-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6123608)
salo in the box and pyatt loses his stick for the 2nd goal...weird!!

Pyatt's OPS broke when he went to block a shot early on the penalty kill.

But I still agree with you about getting rid of him.

SumAznGuy 11-16-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 6123613)
stajan kicked it
he kicked it
arghhh

Hate to break it to you, but the puck was re-directed in, not kicked in. Re-direction with the skate is legal, kicking it directly in or via off of the goalie is not allowed.

Yes, I am a leafs fan.

dim_sum 11-16-2008 05:21 PM

why would you want to let salo go? he'd be an all-star dman for sure if he wasn't so injury prone. Anybody remember him play crosby last year? he was an absolute beast!


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