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MR_BIGGS 06-29-2009 03:31 PM

He had 10 points in his last 5 games....game breaker..

fobulaus 06-29-2009 04:34 PM

Sedin Sedin Burrows
Demitra Kesler Gaborik

not bad not bad

shawn79 06-29-2009 05:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by fobulaus (Post 6487233)
Sedin Sedin Burrows
Demitra Kesler Gaborik

not bad not bad

throw j bo in the back :thumbsup:

Hondaracer 06-29-2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Noir (Post 6487043)
An injury prone Gaborik still has more merit than a non-injury prone Sedins.
.

lol.

SumAznGuy 06-29-2009 08:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by quasi (Post 6487069)
Based on what? Since the lockout there hasn't been one season that Gaborik has had more points then either Sedin.

2007/08 Gabby had 83 points.
Highest Henrik had was 82 points this year. Daniel's highest total was 84 points in 06/07.

But yes, he has had 2 seasons where he missed quite a few games due to injury.

Noir 06-29-2009 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 6487439)
lol.

:rolleyes:

quasi 06-29-2009 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6487533)
2007/08 Gabby had 83 points.
Highest Henrik had was 82 points this year. Daniel's highest total was 84 points in 06/07.

But yes, he has had 2 seasons where he missed quite a few games due to injury.

I stand corrected. :D

shawn79 06-29-2009 10:15 PM

canucks have to resign the sedins........its actually a good deal

8 7 7 6 5 5 5 5 2.5 2.5 = 5.3 mil cap hit

stuff99 06-29-2009 11:16 PM

Canucks GM, agent flying to Sweden to meet with Daniel and Henrik Sedin

By IAIN MacINTYRE, Vancouver Sun columnist
June 29, 2009 8:31 PM


J.P. Barry Barry told The Vancouver Sun on Sunday he was travelling to Sweden to meet personally with his Daniel and Henrik Sedin. ESPN is reporting that Vancouver Canuck general manager Mike Gillis is on the same flight.


It was like the ending of Sleepless in Seattle — if Sam and Annie were lawyers in suits and worked opposite sides of labour relations in the National Hockey League.

Just when any hope of a lasting, meaningful relationship seemed lost, Vancouver Canuck general manager Mike Gillis and player agent J.P. Barry, not knowing if the other would be there, met late Sunday by chance in the business-class cabin of a flight from Montreal to Europe. Cue the music and pass the Kleenex.

Okay, so maybe it wasn’t quite like the movie. There was no rendezvous atop the Empire State Building. But it was as touchy-feely as things have been between Gillis and Barry, who have disagreed for a year over what Daniel and Henrik Sedin should be paid but at least have in common the respect for the twins to visit them in Sweden before free agency opens July 1.

Their coincidental travel plans — a brief weekend meeting at the draft in Montreal went nowhere and neither told the other he was going to Sweden — led to an impromptu Sedin summit Monday in Stockholm.

Daniel and Henrik, resigned to the grim possibility they may have to leave the Canucks, travelled to Stockholm from their hometown of Ornskoldsvik to meet Barry. Imagine their surprise when Gillis and assistant general manager Laurence Gilman stepped off the plane with him.

The sides agreed to a cone of silence, but they spent Monday trying to solve the impasse that, remarkably if viewed in a snapshot, has two of the best, most loyal and decent Canucks on the verge of fielding offers from other NHL teams on Wednesday.

Also present at the summit was Claes Elefalk, who runs Barry’s field office in Sweden.

Gillis’ decision to fly across the Atlantic on the eve of free agency is easily the most encouraging thing that has happened since negotiations began last summer. And the inclusion of Gilman on the road trip is significant, too.

This wasn’t just Gillis travelling over to make peace. It was the Canucks going to make a deal — and we’ll know today or early Wednesday if they were successful.

Barry’s reaction may well have been: ‘What took you so long?’ But it must have been heartening for the Sedins to see their boss on their home turf because, in truth, they’ve had lingering doubts about Gillis’ intentions since he replaced Dave Nonis as the Canucks’ general manager 14 months ago.

Famously, Gillis questioned at his first Canuck press conference if the Sedins were players to build around. He spent much time explaining and re-framing those remarks, yet wasn’t concerned enough about what the Sedins thought to pick up the phone and call them during his first four months on the job.

The twins finally met the new GM only before training camp in September, where management said it wanted to keep the Sedins and the players restated their desire to stay in Vancouver. Negotiations began and went nowhere.

Although there has been recurring contact, the Canucks had not materially altered their best offer — believed to be five-year deals for slightly more than $5.5 million US per season — since February.

The team did not even counter the 12-year, $64-million offer this month from Barry that Gillis flatly rejected.

So you can see how the Sedins might have been wondering if the team really wanted them. Monday’s summit answered that; Gillis cared enough to come to them, to jump the Atlantic in the hopes that he could explain to them face-to-face the Canucks’ position and convince them to stay.

And silly as it seems given the money at stake, that might be enough for the Sedins.

They don’t want to leave the Canucks. Barry doesn’t want to be the agent who couldn’t keep his clients where they were happy. Gillis doesn’t want to be the GM who forced away his best two skaters over ideology about the salary cap and where the NHL economy is going.

The Sedins simply needed an honourable way back from the ledge, an offer they could accept without feeling like they capitulated and lowered the pay scale for 700 NHL players.

The 28-year-olds knew they were never going to get full market value, which by any conventional statistical measure would be about $7 million per season. They never expected to. Times are tough. They’re a tandem, which complicates things. They’re not greedy.

But in the prime of their careers, coming off four excellent seasons in which they were underpaid, and seeing comparable scorers rewarded with annual salaries of $6-8 million, the Sedins deserved something better to sign than $5.5 million a season.

They’ve got Gillis’ respect. All they needed Monday was a little better offer.

When Nonis was fired, he had planned to travel with Barry to Sweden to re-sign the Sedins. Now Gillis can do the same, which would be a happy ending no one envisioned until Monday.

imacintyre@vancouversun.com

© Copyright (c) The Vancouver Sun

goo3 06-29-2009 11:54 PM

Sedin's are low-athleticism, high-IQ players who tend to be late bloomers. This was the first yr they've shown they are capable of forming an elite level first line in the regular season and playoffs. Going forward, I don't see them getting weaker, and I don't see them getting dumber. They can't get any slower. I only see consistency and upside from these guys.

They make for a great foundation and the Canucks are a better team if they can fit them into the cap - and a worse team if they can't. They don't offer game-breaker abilities. But then a game breaker might not give you their consistency either. You ideally would want both on a team. Getting rid of one for the other probably won't get you that much further ahead.

stuff99 06-30-2009 12:21 AM

Also if we lose them, we would be in the market for 3 top 6 forwards instead of 1

iwantaskyline 06-30-2009 01:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goo3 (Post 6487864)
Sedin's are low-athleticism, high-IQ players who tend to be late bloomers. This was the first yr they've shown they are capable of forming an elite level first line in the regular season and playoffs. Going forward, I don't see them getting weaker, and I don't see them getting dumber. They can't get any slower. I only see consistency and upside from these guys.

They make for a great foundation and the Canucks are a better team if they can fit them into the cap - and a worse team if they can't. They don't offer game-breaker abilities. But then a game breaker might not give you their consistency either. You ideally would want both on a team. Getting rid of one for the other probably won't get you that much further ahead.

Captain Obvious.

Harvey Specter 06-30-2009 02:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 6487945)
Captain Obvious.

Lol, yah....I think everyone in the hockey world knows that you need both Sedins because one isn't enough.

iwantaskyline 06-30-2009 02:53 AM

If Gillis can sign Gaborik, I'm hoping an offer sheet goes to Travis Zajac to center him.

goo3 06-30-2009 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 6487945)
Captain Obvious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by goo3 (Post 6487864)
They make for a great foundation and the Canucks are a better team if they can fit them into the cap - and a worse team if they can't. They don't offer game-breaker abilities. But then a game breaker might not give you their consistency either. You ideally would want both on a team. Getting rid of one for the other probably won't get you that much further ahead.

Read it again dude. Game breakers vs the Sedins.

odotodoMAN 06-30-2009 05:26 AM

One more day until Free Agency!!

!Nhan 06-30-2009 06:19 AM

Quote:

The fate of Daniel and Henrik Sedin in Vancouver took another turn on Tuesday as Canucks general manager Mike Gillis has left the twins' home country of Sweden after speaking to them in person.

Sources tell TSN that the brothers are with their agents JP Barry and Claes Elefalk in Stockholm discussing the team's offer to extend the twins' contracts.

The two sides, Sedins included, met with Gillis for two hours. Gillis presented his team's offer before flying back to Vancouver.

Barry, Elefalk and the Sedins are now analyzing and considering the offer, but won't comment on either the term or money Vancouver has offered.

"We met for a few hours this morning," their agent JP Barry told Vancouver radio station CKNW on Tuesday morning. "Mike and (assistant GM) Lawrence Gillman are flying home now. We are considering their position today."
Got this from TSN
http://tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=283282

hotjoint 06-30-2009 07:15 AM

interesting

411ken 06-30-2009 07:33 AM

5 years 6 million would be nice! or 5.8 mill lol... then offer something to Gaborikkkk.. roll the dice!

murd0c 06-30-2009 07:47 AM

They didn't shoot it down right away, hopefully we will hear something this afternoon

woob 06-30-2009 07:57 AM

LOL @ comment on the TSN article:

"New York Rangers will pick the twins up cuz they have money. But the problem is that City have no Heart and Soul. for the past years they have pick up big players and still no Lord Comment on this message
Stantly. Go Habs Go"

wtrandom

hypediss 06-30-2009 08:04 AM

sedins testing the market

http://communities.canada.com/thepro...ee-agency.aspx

another update:
seems that the article was mistranslated

http://twitter.com/BotchonCanucks

Chairman Kaga 06-30-2009 09:07 AM

Taylor Pyatt to hit free agent market

http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/Spo...spx?ID=1108310

CKNW - Taylor Pyatt to hit NHL free agent market
Vancouver-CKNW980am
Rick Dhaliwal
6/30/2009

CKNW has learned that Canucks forward Taylor Pyatt is hitting the NHL free agent market on July 1st.

Pyatt's agent Todd Christie told CKNW that he has had no contact with the Canucks and his client will be a free agent.

411ken 06-30-2009 09:10 AM

If the Sedins don't sign here, I have a feeling the #1 team would be the Kings....They have the money to spend and adding the Twins will help their team.

Sedin Sedin Kopitar Brown,Doughty, Frolov, Jack Johnson.. If they happen to land them, things will look brighter in Kings town.. especially they have 2 upcoming goalies in Ersberg/Quick.. and they have one of the nicest jerseys as well.

fullyentranced 06-30-2009 09:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chairman Kaga (Post 6488227)
Taylor Pyatt to hit free agent market

http://www.cknw.com/Channels/Reg/Spo...spx?ID=1108310

CKNW - Taylor Pyatt to hit NHL free agent market
Vancouver-CKNW980am
Rick Dhaliwal
6/30/2009

CKNW has learned that Canucks forward Taylor Pyatt is hitting the NHL free agent market on July 1st.

Pyatt's agent Todd Christie told CKNW that he has had no contact with the Canucks and his client will be a free agent.

hahahaha we should've traded him for a bag of pucks when we had the chance


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