i'd stick to blackberry if it had a faster processor ... i don't care abt the screen resolution, really, or not anymore...

the update is a leak. its not official
and lots of bugs reported on .161 for OS6

it did remove the echoey phone call sound tho.

9800 will be released to Rogers, Telus, Bell and Virgin on sept 24 , for 199.99 on a 3 year contract.
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This is what makes me wonder about Berry; why are they going so expensive when every other company is cost-cutting for the end consumer? Having a less-good phone for more will not encourage people to switch to berry; convenience and epic win-ness of BBM be damned.

This kind of thing makes me worry for berry in the future. Berry will always have a niche in the security-encrypted cellphone business....but as a mainline consumer company? We'll see.
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Blackberry has been playing catchup since the pearl
they succeeded on gaining market share, but failed to pump out good products. Or should i say, long lasting products

Picked up a Torch last night. Loving this phone a lot more then my Iphone 3g for sure. Typing is a lot easier now. If it wasn't for work I'd have everything set up already.

bbm has helped me get laid so many times. But I must abandon for better web browsing and a better screen.

^^^^ how is bbm any different than texting, the only thing I see is how u can have group chats. You probably could have txt'd and got the same results
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anyone here update it to the leaked .214 os yet?

I have 3x Torch 9800. All are Wobbly now. :(

damn that sucks.
where'd you get yours from?

mine seems to be fine. no defects as of yet *knocks on wood*

When I was in teh states, I played with several 9800s at different at&t locations. Ones that are on display but fully functional. All of those ones were nice and solid still, even though im sure they have been used and played with by a lot of people.

AT&T units, from States of course.

I really dint even know about this phone anymore........... It's got about just as many problems as ppl said the iPhone had. Problems just keep comming up, everyone pushed dropped calls on the iPhone 4. This things like falling apart.
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i've had it for 2 weeks now... the only problems i've had

1) i dont like how the tray always starts with "all"
2) my phone lagged for a bit once or twice but thats because i had whatsapp/bbm/msn all going at once..
3) battery life is currently at 2 days on EDGE with bbm usage all day
4) facebook contacts fucked up my own contact list.. had to manually delete stuff

Alpine: no one really goes online to rant and rave about "omg my phone is so fast, it does this, it does that" unless they're apple fanboys. for every displeased user there are probably 10 or 20 satisfied users. As you see, I've had problems with my phone, but it definitely isnt reasonable for me to return it and grab the latest iPhone.

and yet with this attitude,...no phone is perfect for you

Played with it in the states, i don't like the overall feel of the phone, it feels really plasticy, and i dun like the buttons, and not a big fan of the sliding mechanism neither. I'm gonna take a pass..

Did you get them all at the Wal-mart in Mt. Vernon? Someone bought 3 Torches before I got there...lol

watching porn while rubbing one out does not qualify as getting laid...... ;)

im kidding

how did bbm help you out? its like texting but only to bb
(i have bbm too)

10000000000x Fail.

Probably cause its easier to get a girls pin than their phone number.

bitches love bbm, simple as that.

not saying anything is perfect just so many pol were saying grap about the iPhone but this phones got major issues too but what ever I'm getting a bb cuz I want one so if it's not this Ima get the 9800 if not this 9760 or wat ever depending if it comes out at a decent tine if not that 9700
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I've had mine for about a week and a half.

1) Why not just scroll and leave it on one of the other tray groupings like downloads or frequent?
2) Had the same thing happen, wasn't too noticeable though.
3) I'm getting about 2+ days on 3g, using bbm and txting quite a bit all day.
4) I see the facebook pics of my contacts, but they were already on my list. Did the contacts duplicate on yours?

1) i leave it at favourites, but after a while of using other programs, when i return to the home screen, it goes to ALL again.
2) i think my phone started lagging a lot more after i installed whatsapp
3) if i leave 3g on for a day, i'll get maximum 1 day of power. would it be a battery issue or phone issue?
4) facebook contacts resulted in duplicating my contact list, and when i tried to update with microsoft outlook it would keep fucking up. it wasnt until i deleted every contact with a facebook photo before it worked again.