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Tim Budong 01-09-2013 09:42 AM

James Duthie looks like he needs some rest right now Hahahaha

pure.life 01-09-2013 09:48 AM

Burke staying on as senior advisor, not sure whats up with that

RRxtar 01-09-2013 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pure.life (Post 8127667)
Burke staying on as senior advisor, not sure whats up with that

"you're fired, but either the contract says we cant get rid of you completely, or you've got enough connections to make it a political nightmare, so we will make you a 'consultant' and you keep your full salary and benefits, but you dont have to work anymore"

rsx 01-09-2013 09:58 AM

so much drama. love it!!!

Tim Budong 01-09-2013 10:06 AM

MLSE fired the wrong Brian
HAHA

Gumby 01-09-2013 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 8127681)
MLSE fired the wrong Brian
HAHA

Huh? What other "Brian" works in MLSE?

Gilgamesh 01-09-2013 10:17 AM

Senior advisor...At least he's not severed. I respected a lot of his decisions.

highfive 01-09-2013 10:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 8127681)
MLSE fired the wrong Brian
HAHA

:suspicious: You mean Bryan Colangelo?


Last time Nonis traded for Luongo, he gave up a top 6 forward, top 4 defenceman, and a backup goalie.

Tim Budong 01-09-2013 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gumby (Post 8127688)
Huh? What other "Brian" works in MLSE?

Bryan Colangelo
GM of the Raptors, in which they have done much worst

Gh0stRider 01-09-2013 10:25 AM

Brian Burke Info:

Hired: November 29, 2008
Toronto Record: 123-135-42

Notable Trades / Signings
- July 1, 2009 - Signed Komisarek to a 5-year deal

- September 18, 2009 - Traded for Phil Kessel 2 1st round picks (Seguin/Hamilton) and a 2nd round pick (Jared Knight)

- January 31, 2010 - 7 player trade with Calgary, Leafs acquire Phanuef

- January 31, 2010 - traded for JS Giguere

- February 9, 2011 - Traded Francois Beauchemin to Anaheim for Joffrey Lupul and Jake Gardiner

- June 23, 2012 - Traded Luke Schenn to Flyers for James Van Riemsdyk

- July 1, 2012 - Signed Jay McClement

Fired/Hired
- Fired Ron Wilson March 2, 2012
- Hired Randy Carlyle

Tim Budong 01-09-2013 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gh0stRider (Post 8127707)
Brian Burke Info:

Hired: November 29, 2008
Toronto Record: 123-135-42

Notable Trades / Signings
- July 1, 2009 - Signed Komisarek to a 5-year deal

- September 18, 2009 - Traded for Phil Kessel 2 1st round picks (Seguin/Hamilton) and a 2nd round pick (Jared Knight)

- January 31, 2010 - 7 player trade with Calgary, Leafs acquire Phanuef

- January 31, 2010 - traded for JS Giguere

- February 9, 2011 - Traded Francois Beauchemin to Anaheim for Joffrey Lupul and Jake Gardiner

- June 23, 2012 - Traded Luke Schenn to Flyers for James Van Riemsdyk

- July 1, 2012 - Signed Jay McClement

Fired/Hired
- Fired Ron Wilson March 2, 2012
- Hired Randy Carlyle

Its not THAT bad..xept for the Kessel move. and the Komisarek
MLSE just didnt' like the way he managed.

highfive 01-09-2013 10:34 AM

What a day...Burke gets fired...Seattle is getting a basketball team.

IMO, leafs really lacked a #1/2 centre.

Look at all the top teams centres.

Henrik/Kesler
Datsyuk/Zetterberg
Kopitar/Richards
Bergeron/Krejci

Gilgamesh 01-09-2013 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gh0stRider (Post 8127707)
Brian Burke Info:

Hired: November 29, 2008
Toronto Record: 123-135-42

Notable Trades / Signings
- July 1, 2009 - Signed Komisarek to a 5-year deal

- September 18, 2009 - Traded for Phil Kessel 2 1st round picks (Seguin/Hamilton) and a 2nd round pick (Jared Knight)

- January 31, 2010 - 7 player trade with Calgary, Leafs acquire Phanuef

- January 31, 2010 - traded for JS Giguere

- February 9, 2011 - Traded Francois Beauchemin to Anaheim for Joffrey Lupul and Jake Gardiner

- June 23, 2012 - Traded Luke Schenn to Flyers for James Van Riemsdyk

- July 1, 2012 - Signed Jay McClement

Fired/Hired
- Fired Ron Wilson March 2, 2012
- Hired Randy Carlyle

You missed some. Burke Flipped an under-performing versteeg for a 1st rounder and scrapped Kaberle for a first rounder. The Kaberle first rounder was flipped again for Anaheim's 1st round pick for Tyler Biggs while the versteeg pick was used to pick Stuart Percy who will replace Carl Gunnersson in about 2-3 years. He also strengthened the farm by trading Luca Caputi for Nicholas Deschamps and drafted Morgan Rielly, Matt Finn, and Jesse Blacker galvanizing the farm. An efficient farm is a precursor for rebuilding or development.

About the Kessel trade, you sort of need a neo-revisionist perspective. At the time, it was feasible because it was kessel for 2 first rounders, not necessarily a 2nd and 8th. It was astonishing that the leafs finished 2nd last that season. Also, Winnipeg and the 6th team were stupid in not choosing dougie hamilton. He also brought Steckel, who solved a major problem of defensive zone face-offs.

On the other hand, he did sign connolly, and traded for lombardi, but they'll be gone in a year. Komisarek in 2 unfortunately. Franson is a good trade chip, despite his follies.


Quote:

Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8127715)
What a day...Burke gets fired...Seattle is getting a basketball team.

IMO, leafs really lacked a #1/2 centre.

Look at all the top teams centres.

Henrik/Kesler
Datsyuk/Zetterberg
Kopitar/Richards
Bergeron/Krejci

They got Mikhail Grabovski. He is offensively competent, but has an average defensive game. His value in terms of cap/value effectiveness, is another dispute, but he is capable of 50 points. Burke also flourished MacArthur's career.

Tim Budong 01-09-2013 10:48 AM

Lupul said it right, the team underperformed and sadly, shit happens

spideyv2 01-09-2013 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 7seven (Post 8127635)

I figured it was due to this

Ronin 01-09-2013 11:59 AM

The Leafs really should've been better than they were but the team Burke put together was a second-rate team at best. They were never going to contend with the guys they had but at the same time, they ALL had bad years when they put on that Leafs jersey. Only Kessel and Lupul had good seasons last year...in pretty much the entire period between 2004 and now.

Mike Oxbig 01-09-2013 12:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8127703)
:suspicious: You mean Bryan Colangelo?


Last time Nonis traded for Luongo, he gave up a top 6 forward, top 4 defenceman, and a backup goalie.

shawn79's fantasy: :derp: "Maybe we can get Bozak + Gardiner + a draft pick for Luongo"


:fuckthatshit:

MR_BIGGS 01-09-2013 12:06 PM

Alex Seixeiro ‏@alexfan590
Bob McCown on #Sportsnet: Burke didn't want to deal Kadri & Gardiner for Luongo. Felt it wasn't the right deal to make. #Leafs

This is pure speculation at this point...but if this is the case, wow.

I would love to see the Canucks get a first rd pick in this year's deep draft. Won't help us for this year, but could set us up nicely for the future.

murd0c 01-09-2013 12:08 PM

I so don't want Kadri

Mike Oxbig 01-09-2013 12:12 PM

The guy talking right now Jeremy Jacobs Owner & governor of Boston Bruins is one of the main reasons why we got locked out.

murd0c 01-09-2013 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Big Earl (Post 8127785)
The guy talking right now Jeremy Jacobs Owner & governor of Boston Bruins is one of the main reasons why we got locked out.

How so?

Mike Oxbig 01-09-2013 12:19 PM

Sportsnet said he was one of the owners that was holding up the lock out being a dick about it past couple of months, same with hfboards.

Bettman did a good job, the NHL should give the fans free center ice remaining of the season. That alone will gain my loyalty back. :D

Hondaracer 01-09-2013 12:21 PM

Canucks have a million guys like Kadri
Posted via RS Mobile

7seven 01-09-2013 12:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8127788)
How so?

Bettman is basically just the face, he takes his marching orders from the NHL BoG, which is basically controlled by Jacobs and Ed Snider. That's why I always get a chuckle out of fans just focusing hate on Bettman when all he is doing is taking orders from Jacobs/Snider basically.

604778 01-09-2013 12:27 PM

Dem camera shutters going off....


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