you stupid retard, keep your eyes on the road and stop zoom/teams calling people from your car!!!

Nav
At least circa '22-24 when I still owned the truck, it was often not giving me the most efficient route recommendations through traffic. Sometimes, it would bring me to the wrong destinations. And sometimes, it would repeatedly route me off and back on the highway.

Text
I like using the CarPlay integration for reading/sending IMs. I missed not having that.

Audio
I use Youtube Music and they had no native app (might still not). Relying on just BT streaming from the phone is kind of an annoying limitation.

ah gotcha - i keep forgetting the texting ticket in CA/BC is super expensive

back in WA it was so cheap that I learned to drive stick shift thru traffic, text, and teams on my foldable phone lmao

I don’t get what’s so important that you need to teams people from the car. Those Timothy chaletman lookalike meetings are much make effective in real life than on teams.

Did you land acknowledge in the car

Someone got into an accident while on a Teams call and tried to sue us at work. The case was thrown out. But because of that, I hang up on anyone who takes a Teams call in the car.

It’s not that the meeting itself is critical, I’d be parked for that.

It’s those that are kinda unimportant (but I still need info from it) that I take it in the car during the commute

thanks, cant unsee now.

Good damnit

Kia EV4 Sedan:

• Starting at $38,995 the EV4 is currently the most affordable dedicated EV in Canada
• Kia's first all-electric compact sedan, its bold, innovative design and advanced technology bring affordable EV ownership to Canadians
• Exceptional confidence with an estimated all-electric range of up to 552 km in the Wind Long-Range FWD trim
• 'Opposites United' design philosophy blends nature and humanity for a modern and expressive appearance
• 10 to 80 percent state of charge with DC fast charging in just 29 or 31 minutes (depending on battery size) through a 400V EV dedicated platform with a built-in North American Charging Standard (NACS) port
• The first model to receive Kia's i-Pedal 3.0 variable regenerative braking
• The 2026 EV4 (FWD) is now available for ordering in Canada with AWD expected later in 2026.

Light FWD Standard Range $38,995 MSRP
Wind FWD Long Range $42,995 MSRP
Wind Premium FWD Long Range $45,495 MSRP
GT-Line FWD Long Range $48,495 MSRP
GT-Line Limited FWD/AWD Long Range $51,995 MSRP

Light Standard Range FWD = 391km
Wind Long Range FWD = 552km
Wind Premium Long Range FWD = 515km
GT-Line / GT-Line Limited = 488km

Hmm 200hp fwd but pretty much model 3 standard range

ground-up midsize EV starting with a 3 in canadian pesos is refreshing

hope it sells like gangbusters

Strange they didn't opt to prioritize the EV3:
https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...f0c4dd7a46.jpg

https://hips.hearstapps.com/hmg-prod...f0c4d59a94.jpg

Don't small crossovers sell way better than sedans these days?

^ Also strange why they didn't bring the EV4 hatchback first over the sedan. Looks better and more practical. Who knows if we'll get it.

Agreed, cheaper than the new Bolt and Leaf for reference.

https://www.kia.ca/en/vehicles/ev5

They got the EV5 coming here though and that's a size that works better for this market - starts at $47k.

seems like a good deal for the EV5, but competition is heating up. You can get a tesla model y (gross i know) for around 850 bucks a month right now as batshit elon tries everything to prevent the total collapse of the brand.
Even at 47k for the EV5, it'll be around that price depending on residual (usually terrible for EV's) and interesting rates.

Also in the 850's-900's
Lightening f150
Lucid Air (uhhhhh)
Mustang E
Chevy Blazer
Model 3
Polestar 3
Hyundai whatevers
BZ4 whatever

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Just wait for the chongs to come in and establish total dominance in the EV and who gives a shit commuter car market. Cant wait to get my sub 40k EV and 350 a month leases.

F150 Lightning discontinued

https://www.npr.org/2025/12/15/nx-s1...-150-lightning


F150 Lightning EREV announced
https://www.fromtheroad.ford.com/us/...ectric-vehicle

Astulzerzd in shambles

Makes a ton of sense actually - Lightning was super niche.
They need to make it cheaper to run for everyone and do way better on road trips.

Owning a couple lightnings only works in BC where gas is 1.9L and fast charging is 20-35c/kwh.
USA gas is almost half the cost at $1.09 CAD and DC fast charging is triple at 90c CAD/kwh.

Question is whether they will market it like it has a locomotive powertrain (generator + electric motor).
Mexican F-150 is called "LOBO", they could call this "LOCO" lmaooooo.

Never quite understood EV pickups. Yes you can sell it at a high price so you can make up the margins a bit and yes you can mask a lot of the mass due it being heavy anyways but it can't tow worth shit (no range), the terrible aero means poor efficiency and the American demographic for truck owners aren't exactly green types (witness the Hemi coming back for no good reason other than AMERICA!).

Sales of all of them seem pretty poor - the Silverado EV sells at half the volume of the Ford and the Cybertruck is a disaster.

If they wanted to do half baked EVs and they have a commercial truck division then a small panel van for local deliveries seems ideal as a testbed - 200hp, 150 miles of range.

Most of them literally just used for a 1 hour highway commute round trip, something like 50% never touch the bed and 90% never tow.

The bigger thing is dealers not wanting to sell em, they’d lose all their service revenue and the margin is way slimmer than on a gas/hybrid f150.

As a product I quite like them - they use the EV power really well, corner better, and SUPER cheap to run in Vancouver. It’s free business expansion since the payment is same as a gas truck’s fuel bills.

It's a bummer that the Lightning is being discontinued, it sounds like an actual practical truck for 80% of 1/2 ton users, just don't try towing with it.

Maybe it's just too much weight and batteries, but there doesn't seem to be a lot of midsize SUV EVs. BMW iX, MB EQE, Kia/Hyundai EV9/i9 twins, Tesla Model X (which costs 200k), with a huge stretch, VW ID Buzz.

The Etron is too small, it's more like a Q5 size despite being called Q8 etron now. The Mustang is small. The Hyundai i5 trunk is abysmal.

Don't try towing at highway speeds with it - the couple lightnings SRs we have in Vancouver do 250-300km range towing.

It's not additional weight that kills it, you barely feel it with the 500hp. It's the additional aero that kills it.

I think it's all about cost.

Kia went backwards from 800V EV6/Ioniq5 to cheapo 400V for EV4/5 because their dealer/buyer can't support.
MB/BMW figured out how to put massive 92/110kWh batteries & 800V at the CLA/iX3 price because their engineers got their shit together.

IMO in a year or two we'll see next gen midsizers at 50k USD/70k CAD price point.