Who makes a good looking car nowadays in that segment? Mercs are bubbly blobs. Lexus looks like a Prius, Audi? Don't know what they look like nowadays. Rivian too expensive.

All the reviews I've seen say it drives well for what it is, great range, fast charging. Checks a lot more boxes than doesn't.

PHEV, either in hybrid or range extending (engine serves as power generator) variant technically have best of both world, but remember, it'd unfortunately also carry the worst of both world.

From experience of myself and from all of people in my social circle who acquired a BEV, the whole range anxiety, charging speed... etc, are really all problems that arise from having the habit of driving ICE since... ever.

But unless one does long drive on a daily/weekly basis, once you go BEV and get used to it, that whole idea of wanting to charge full in 5min, wanting a 800km on a tank/charge desire all cease to exist.

90% of poeple won't drive more than 60km/day average and 99.9% won't do more than 250km/day. Pretty much any BEV out there that you can buy new is more than capable of doing that range regardless of season. Once you get home, you plug it in and next day is full.

It's the same idea that people bitching about not able to swap batteries on their phone. The reality is, once you get used to how long the phone lasts (generally speaking, the design is to go a day under regular usage, if not more), no one ask for that feature anymore. If there's a strong demand for swappable batteries, you can bet companies would keep it making it. But the truth is only a fraction of ppl actually even have a second battery for their phone when they were swappable.

The only people who I don't recommend BEV are people who can't install their own charger and those whose work or life need them to commute extreme distances often.

Every single person who have kept their ICE vehicle after gone BEV eventually sold their ICE car except those buying ICE for collection or hobby. For daily A-to-B drive, BEV are pretty much perfect. With more and more charging station and infrastructure coming, BEV would simply get more convenient every day.

Genesis does what Hon-don't

I like that nose, I think it looks good.

Hehe how's your cyber truck? Any crazy problems, I'm surprised Tesla hasn't put them on clearance yet and resell price is still stupid high here

Nop. Other than a recall that replaced the glue on some trim, it has yet gone back. And they only asked me to drop it because I drove the ct to buy some filter

The steer by wire is amazing. I wish more cars come with it. There’s absolutely no reason we need to turn the steering wheel for that much when turning. Going back to say my wife’s model x feels archaic.

It's not exclusive to the CT, but the outlets in the trunk is so awesome when camping. We had a full coffee setup (220v espresso machine, kettle for pour over and grinder) when camping in the middle of nowhere. Haha

I'd call it the "leagues and miles better than the current" nose LOL~

Hard disagree...

http://https://www.topgear.com/sites...5c0225_001.jpg

http://https://www.topgear.com/sites...?w=1784&h=1004

I road tripped a lot of EV - for me, Tesla, Ioniq 5, Lucid, Lightning, I still have to think what % to plug in at, how long to charge, etc.
The game changed last week when hertz gave me Silverado EV.

I drove it like a gas car....
- Plug in at any percent, it's still pulling 300kW while others are pulling 60kW
- 15 minute stop is like 60kWh charge, more than entire Model 3 SR+ battery
- 600km highway range in any condition, because 200kWh battery is double everyone else

Yeah man it's personal preference - if you like the nose the BMW is the way better car

I love the nose on the BMWs. True beauty at its finest.

pig nosed bastards!!!

The current X3 is UGLY. It looks cheap both inside and out - way too bulky on the outside. There's a couple colours where they hide the bulk well but in most colours it looks like a mumu dress.

The iX3 seems promising - I thought the nose was initially really ugly but it's grown on me. The rear and side still look a bit bulky like the X3 though but the nose is so much better

neuss klauss or whatever they call it, this "new class" design scheme is fugly and cheap looking.

I love cheap and ugly! :fuckyea:

:lol I can't un-see that

Neue Klasse

NOY-YA CLA-SUH!!!!

I'm not seeing the mumu dress, guys. Please help me with some visual aids.

They are sitting in parking lots so he is selling them to his other companies.



https://www.autoblog.com/.image/w_10...g?arena_f_auto

since i dont have any Klasse, i dont know how to write it or pronounce it.... :accepted:

Rivian is gonna have fsd now:ahwow:

pls just add carplay, gatdamnit dont be stubborn (or maybe im just projecting my stubbornness)

I was expecting you to respond with "how about STFU- PAH!", the only appropriate response to that obnoxious sounding name.

Wtf does New Class even mean. And what do you do 10 years later when it's old? Is the next one New New Class? Seems awkward.

It got so bad that the aftermarket came up with integration kits for a separate screen, just to get the CarPlay lol.

Lots of people bought one, including me :p.

https://evsportline.com/cdn/shop/fil...rogressive.jpg

https://media.tenor.com/lboJBN9un18A...ny-bavaria.gif

its part of their heritage.

Interesting, what do you use it for?

I find the stock Tesla / Rivian / GM Android Auto navs perfectly fine for everything except...

1) for speed trap and police alerts
2) Zoom / Teams calls where I like having a mute button on the screen