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murd0c 03-20-2017 10:22 AM

the most important thing is how Jimdim will draft in the later rounds, if they were to pick a D the first round I would be ok with that since Dmen are more important and we do need a PP QB which we don't have at all.

highfive 03-20-2017 10:22 AM

Top 3 pick Patrick, Hischier, and Vilardi?

Maybe Benning finally understands how this market works.

Last year, did nothing at trade deadline. Hamhuis /Vrbata for nothing
Draft - I think it was Linden, oh we haven't drafted a dman for years...drafts a dman...(prob because they didn't expect CBJ to draft dubois).

This year- trades Burr and Hansen
Draft - We might draft a dman....if I'm correct, he's trolling and going to draft centre.

Hell! he might be santa and fire Willie for all of us fans!

Armind 03-20-2017 10:25 AM

https://media.giphy.com/media/ToMjGp...Brhu/giphy.gif

Jmac 03-20-2017 03:50 PM

Almost every draft ranking has Liljegren at #3

spoon.ek9 03-20-2017 05:05 PM

Willie better be fucking done after this season. From the comments posted lately (re: Linden tell him to play the kids (again)), it seems like there's a rift between what management wants and what WD is doing. Hopefully that leads to his termination.

m3thods 03-20-2017 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 8830408)
Willie better be fucking done after this season. From the comments posted lately (re: Linden tell him to play the kids (again)), it seems like there's a rift between what management wants and what WD is doing. Hopefully that leads to his termination.

He sounds like a man who has been told that he's not being retained for next year already. 1040 ran parallels between WD's comments lately and those of Torts in 2014. Remember Tort's partings words for the Vancouver Canucks? Something along the lines of "this core is stale".

While I question WD's decisions with the rest of you, people have to realize that he's coaching for himself at this point. That report saying he's had teams inquire about his services (granted in what capacity who knows) isn't a fluke.

In a trying season, he's had a team that has mostly played hard for him. If the players wanted him out they would've shit the bed a lot earlier in the season a la Montreal. A coach's job is to prepare the team as best as possible and to win. Of course he doesn't want to gift ice time to kids because he knows it will signal to everyone in the league that they've given up with 10 games left in the season. Gifting ice time worked well for Virtanen and Mccann right?

Yes, WD and the team tanking is something we as a fanbase are clamouring for but I suspect the coach and players don't want to mail it in for the most part. Again, you don't have to look much further than Edmonton pre-Connor to see how that screwed up the development of their young guys (Dubnyk, Schultz and Eberle come to mind). As bad as the Sedins and WD are this season, they're teaching the young players on the team who will be taking over in the next few seasons that they are and need to be accountable for their play and actions. That's more valuable than teaching them to give up the second they're out of the playoffs.

Mike Oxbig 03-20-2017 06:09 PM

Canucks fired these guys to keep WD

http://i65.tinypic.com/2mi3qe8.jpg

Ch28 03-20-2017 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8830292)
fuck...such a player

I wish we drafted him. What I wouldn't give up for that grit.
Too bad he did it to Doughty. Would've been perfectly ok if it was Dustin Brown.

Too bad he didn't elbow Duncan Keith into a season ending concussion

Ch28 03-20-2017 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Nabatron (Post 8830303)
drafting tkachuk is somewhat a miss but you would have to think with this shit head coach he wouldn't get a shot with the canucks. We all know he would have got sent back to juniors.

So JBs interview last week about the draft was kind of surprising. In that we already drafted jueolevi in the top5 but JB was saying if there was a legitimate pp quarterback they would really look at it. If we draft another dman in the top 5 two years in a row my head will explode. If the dman is not a doughty/ekblad type of stud there is noway we should draft that early.

I'd be more than happy if the Canucks end up with Timothy Liljegren. Here are some quotes from the Bobfather and Craig Button

via TSN’s Bob McKenzie,
Quote:

“Scouts say his offensive game is far more developed than his defensive game. He is an elite skater, both in terms of speed and agility, and adept at running a power play. He is seen as both a puck mover and an offensive point producer. No one is suggesting he’s the next Erik Karlsson, not by any means, but scouts say he has some of the same qualities and, therefore, has the potential to be projected as a possible top pairing defenceman in time.”
via TSN’s Craig Button,
Quote:

“Very gifted skater who uses his feet to his advantage defensively and in transition. Smart, poised, anticipates the play, sees where to exploit opponents and can dictate play in all areas. Excellent in the defensive zone because he beats pressure, fends it off and the puck gets moving ahead quickly. Has a command of the game and he finds a way to be a contributor at critical times.”
NHL Player Comparison: Erik Karlsson, Victor Hedman

Bouncing Bettys 03-20-2017 07:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Oxbig (Post 8830424)
Canucks fired these guys to keep WD

http://i65.tinypic.com/2mi3qe8.jpg

Sounds like the plot of Good Luck Chuck, with coaches going on to have success instead of ex girlfriends going on to find their future husband. Maybe this is where Dreger got the idea that there would be a lot of interest in WD if he is fired.

Amuse 03-20-2017 10:51 PM

I want Patrick or Hischier!

Mike Oxbig 03-20-2017 11:05 PM

They say Nolan Patrick is like Monahan or is this some bs?

Nabatron 03-21-2017 08:07 AM

^haven't really seen too much of Patrick but I doubt we will win the draft lottery...knowing JB he will go off the board and pick a dman 1st over all lol

Sentinel 03-21-2017 08:57 AM

Mittelstadt seems pretty good too. 6'1", 200lbs, c/lw, leftie.

6o4__boi 03-21-2017 09:41 AM

rofl can you imagine if the cup final ended up being CGY vs CBJ

:lawl:

highfive 03-21-2017 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Oxbig (Post 8830474)
They say Nolan Patrick is like Monahan or is this some bs?

1040 said toews but fuck what do they know... lol

Nabatron 03-21-2017 10:03 AM

so how good are the canucks chances getting top 3 pick in this years draft?

6o4__boi 03-21-2017 10:31 AM

NHL Lottery Simulator

not that good tbh
no one's beating the Avs
best the Canucks can finish is 29th but realistically will probably finish 25th-28th
which would give em similar chances as last year

factor in the Canucks luck and don't be too surprised when they end up picking outside of the top 5 or 5th again

Liquid_o2 03-21-2017 10:36 AM

I just ran the draft simulator and the Jets won the 1st overall pick haha

Canucks got second and Avs got 3rd.

Liquid_o2 03-21-2017 10:38 AM

Also, how can Liljegren be projected as a Victor Hedman if he is only 5'11"?

I remember when scouts were glowing about Erik Gudbranson and Griffen Reinhart as well. Aside from the Crosby and McDavids and Matthews and Laines, it is very hard to predict a players future output.

Nabatron 03-21-2017 11:28 AM

the draft lottery is bullshit still get how stupid jets got laine and we ended up 5th. I mean yah it so that teams don't actually go out and lose games but fuck...

6o4__boi 03-21-2017 11:30 AM

it's a fair enough system imo

Canucks just can't catch a break ever.

highfive 03-21-2017 11:31 AM

I don't care how talented you are. If you don't put the work into it and train as a professional, you're going to be left behind. Look at how bo put in the work.

highfive 03-21-2017 11:33 AM

Haha just did the lottery. Canucks won first twice.

7seven 03-21-2017 11:46 AM

From all indications from scouts and other pro personnel, this years draft is the weakest since the Yakupov/Murray one for high end talent. Patrick would rank behind McDavid, Eichel, Matthews, Laine, Ekblad and MacKinnon.

I've seen Patrick's high end potential compared to Jeff Carter and Patrick Marleau but who knows, this years draft is a crap shoot it seems.


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