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6o4__boi 03-13-2017 01:59 PM

guy looks like what Cheech would look like if he failed at growing a mustache

highfive 03-13-2017 02:39 PM

Question back in jvs draft was whether he 6th overall or 40 something according to button.

There were no consensus that he's a top 10 pick right?

He got the tools and size. Just a matter if he's able to use it. Going back to junior wouldn't done good for him. He needs to learn to be a pro and play against grown men same size as him. It's the stupid ahl rule that's the problem.

6o4__boi 03-13-2017 02:45 PM

pretty sure he was at least a top 10 pick

it was the local Canucks analytics guys that wanted the org to draft Nylander, Ehlers and absolutely did not want them to draft JV

Going back to junior was the right move because his personality, maturity levels couldn't handle the NHL. Doesn't help that the Canucks hyped him up because he's a hometown kid. In hindsight, he should've stayed in junior and slowly brought up through the AHL.

Barring a good camp, he probably should stay in the AHL for another year but at least be one of the first to get called up.

Jmac 03-13-2017 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8801945)
I think it's fair to say Larkin would've been an off-the-board pick at #6.

Here are the 2014 top 15 picks and their pre-draft breakdowns from 13 different scouting sources:

Ekblad: Low - 1, High - 3, Average - 1.62, Median - 1
Reinhart: Low - 1, High - 4, Average - 2.23, Median - 2
Draisaitl: Low - 3, High - 7, Average - 4.69, Median - 4
Bennett: Low - 1, High - 4, Average - 2.31, Median - 2
Dal Colle: Low - 3, High - 8, Average - 5.62, Median - 5
Virtanen: Low - 6, High - 43, Average - 12.08, Median - 10
Fleury: Low - 7, High - 12, Average - 9.46, Median - 10
Nylander: Low - 3, High - 10, Average - 6.85, Median - 7
Ehlers: Low - 4, High - 16, Average - 7.77, Median - 8
Ritchie: Low - 5, High - 18, Average - 8.92, Median - 8
Fiala: Low - 6, High - 22, Average - 14.38, Median - 14
Perlini: Low - 9, High - 20, Average - 12.15, Median - 12
Vrana: Low - 13, High - 30, Average - 21, Median - 21
Honka: Low - 13, High - 34, Average - 22.15, Median - 20
Larkin: Low - 9, High - 26, Average - 16.38, Median - 15

Nylander was the consensus BPA based on pre-draft scouting reports available to the public.

Posted this in November.

By consensus of publicly-available scouting lists, Jake would've been behind Nylander, Ehlers, Ritchie, and Fleury (so 10th overall)

6o4__boi 03-13-2017 03:30 PM

high - 43 ?
meaning could've been picked as low as 43rd overall?

if so, that spread tho

highfive 03-13-2017 04:28 PM

yeah 43 was craig button I believe. haha

at least we got demko from that draft. he's fucking on fire lately.

Ch28 03-13-2017 05:42 PM

Craig Button raised a lot of eyebrows when he said JV was around 43rd best from his rankings. Button usually is pretty spot on for most of his picks, so it sucks to see us pass on Ehlers and Nylander.

Bouncing Bettys 03-13-2017 05:46 PM

Nylander - so dreamy
https://68.media.tumblr.com/e239ee89...5vzno1_400.gif

MG1 03-13-2017 06:08 PM

Breathing/phrasing needs some work. She's cute, but another composer wannabe..........

Jmac 03-13-2017 08:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8828884)
high - 43 ?
meaning could've been picked as low as 43rd overall?

if so, that spread tho

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8828899)
yeah 43 was craig button I believe. haha

at least we got demko from that draft. he's fucking on fire lately.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8828921)
Craig Button raised a lot of eyebrows when he said JV was around 43rd best from his rankings. Button usually is pretty spot on for most of his picks, so it sucks to see us pass on Ehlers and Nylander.

Yes, Button was the one who ranked him 43rd.

That said, there were a few other scouting rankings who had him in the mid-teens.

No one had Nylander out of the top 10

Mike Oxbig 03-13-2017 08:51 PM

https://i.makeagif.com/media/12-15-2013/32FYrT.gif

Tegra_Devil 03-13-2017 08:54 PM

Make it 10 in a row

PiuYi 03-13-2017 10:29 PM

this is the first Boston/Vancouver game I've missed since 2011, think as a fan I'm finally getting over that series

sucks ratface got the hat trick tonight but thanks for the loss Boston!

highfive 03-13-2017 11:05 PM

NHL superstar Sidney Crosby makes time to cheer up B.C. boy battling brain tumours

Respect for Sid! Really the golden boy for Canada.

Jmac 03-14-2017 03:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8828777)
damn, if Canucks could actually get Boeser and Gaudette signed for next year and Willie is gone, it might actually be a year to look forward to

plus chance of signing Dahlen to AHL contract and maybe seeing him here on recalls


we might finish higher than Vegas in the standings next year after all
:troll:

Hate to crush your dreams, but Gaudette posted this on Twitter yesterday.


murd0c 03-14-2017 08:21 AM

I'm ok with that, it's better for him to play and stay in school then go play for the Comets right now.

6o4__boi 03-14-2017 08:25 AM

Gaudette gonna go to FA just watch

it's hard for me to consider our college prospects "ours" except Boeser because of the college rule (or the ones who've come out to say they're committed to sign)

there's also Lockwood to watch but he needs more time to develop...but when that time is given will he sign or will he walk?

i hate the ncaa rule for that

SumAznGuy 03-14-2017 09:04 AM


I know the draft is a lottery, but still. All we had to do was lose the last 3 games of the season and we would have picked no worse than 3rd.

dbaz 03-14-2017 09:05 AM

Dhaliwal coming through again


guessing they entice him with nhl games, if not should help comets on an ato. his senior team's season is done, and the jr team has a 3 game series against Brynas J20.

also the following from hank last night in the provies :lawl:
“There’s a lot to say on this. It’s going to help them. But you don’t want to get satisfied playing well down the stretch. That’s the scary part.
“When you do that, it can be a problem because then you come in next year and you think it’s going to be easy but it’s a whole new ballgame.
“They need to take another step over the summer. They can’t just be thinking ‘This is where it ends. I’m in the NHL now and can relax.’
“It’s about taking the next step and that’s what we want to see from them.”

Mike Oxbig 03-14-2017 10:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8829026)
Gaudette gonna go to FA just watch

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/op3RQooYlys/hqdefault.jpg

pierre mcguire says he could be the steal of the draft

6o4__boi 03-14-2017 10:35 AM

because Canuck luck

and Dhaliwal is priming the Canucks for another College FA let down by saying they're still in the mix for Aston-Reese.

Canucks are always bridesmaids this time of the year :fuckthatshit:

dbaz 03-14-2017 10:43 AM

rumor is aston reese wants to go to the rangers but the rangers are apparently worried about contract spots as they are going after some Russians from the khl and the fact he may need a few years in the ahl and has to fix his speed to get to the nhl

apparently he makes his decision by tomorrow afternoon

SumAznGuy 03-14-2017 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8829054)
Canucks are always bridesmaids this time of the year :fuckthatshit:

We did sign Stetcher so it's not all doom and gloom but yeah. :QQ:

Liquid_o2 03-14-2017 11:27 AM

Thinking about the Canucks prospects this morning, I think they are heading towards a good spot compared to a few years ago. 2015, the cupboards were pretty much bare. You look now, and assuming they can get Gaudette signed after his Junior season, their prospect pool is looking a lot more exciting.

- Olli Juolevi
- Nik Goldobin
- Jonathan Dahlen
- Brock Boeser
- Adam Gaudette
- Thatcher Demko

Add them to the likes of Horvat, Baertschi, Tryamkin, and Stecher and you have a solid base of under 25 players. And this isn't counting potential players in the system such as Virtanen, Guillaume Brisebois... well there isn't that much else there :P

6o4__boi 03-14-2017 11:32 AM

i'm definitely eating all the shit i've said about Granlund too

he's been a great surprise this season


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