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SumAznGuy 03-08-2017 10:18 AM

WD is a decent coach. In the juniors.
But he just doesn't have what it takes to be a head coach in the NHL.
His line deployments, lack of creativity. In the end, it's his ass on the line when the PP and PK suffers.

originalhypa 03-08-2017 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8827853)
lol there was that one sequence when Shaw called for the puck and Goldy passed it behind blindly after he missed shooting on an odd man chance

Shaw is so sneaky. I love him in my hockey pool, as he makes things happen out there.

As for WD, Linden said this the other day on TSN1040.
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“We’re going to take our time and look at our options at the end of the season,” Canucks president Trevor Linden told a Vancouver sports radio station Tuesday, regarding the head coach. “I’ll have to do a full assessment of our organization, as I always do, and we’ll move forward from that point.”
that doesn't sound promising for WD next year.

Armind 03-08-2017 10:28 AM

Good. But who will we replace him with?

http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/...06/325/b31.jpg

dbaz 03-08-2017 11:21 AM

yea I'm pretty sick of the he has to earn the time line. vey, megna, chaput get massive amounts playing time and in best situations. k coach

m3thods 03-08-2017 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by murd0c (Post 8827862)
the funny thing is other teams are interested in WD if the Canucks fire him... It's fricken shocking and I don't understand it.

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8827873)
WD is a decent coach. In the juniors.
But he just doesn't have what it takes to be a head coach in the NHL.
His line deployments, lack of creativity. In the end, it's his ass on the line when the PP and PK suffers.

Jokes aside, what he's done with most of our impactful young guys is undeniable:

Horvat
Bae
Granlund
Stecher
Tryamkin
Hutton

All of these players you could consider part of our next "core" going forward. And all of these players were developed under Willie's watch.

I agree he's not fit to be an NHL head coach. Put him in an assistant/associate position and I think he'd be a great bridge to the head coach and teacher to young players.

SumAznGuy 03-08-2017 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by m3thods (Post 8827901)
Horvat
Bae
Granlund
Stecher
Tryamkin
Hutton

I would argue that you and the people on TSN1040 are giving WD more credit than he is due.
BoHo was rated as a leader type personality, much like Linden.
If anything, WD overplayed BoHo last season due to injuries to other players and if it was another player, they may have regressed but Bo was able to funnel it and push himself to be better. Don't believe it, the biggest knock against him was his skating. He took it upon himself to get a skating coach and help him improve his skating.

Bae and Grandlund are in the same boat. Both had some NHL and AHL time with the Flames. They lacked consistency and you can say WD helped them with that.

Stetcher was a highly touted player from college. Many NHL teams were trying to sign him. While he has outplayed his expectations, in reality it wasn't that far of a stretch given his pedigry.

Tryamkin is the worst example of someone WD coached up and was given ice time due to him earning it. Tryamkin's deal forces the Nucks to have him in the NHL. If they try to send him down to Utica, Tryam has the right to walk away and go back to the K.
With all the injuries, WD is forced to play Tryamkin, but don't forget he has played in the K against adults so it's not like he is a complete rookie.

Hutton played his way onto the team and again exceeded all expectations last year. But again, he played 4 years of college hockey before playing a part season in Utica. I'd say his development had more to do with NCAA hockey than WD.

Flip side. He turned a really good NHL'er into someone who clearly did the bare minimum to finish the season and get the fuck outta here with Vrbata.
Lets look at all the kids that didn't do well under WD.
You have everyone's goat with JV.
Ronalds Kenins
Linden Vey
Jared McCann
All are kids that played at least 1 full season under WD and look at where they are now.

Jmac 03-08-2017 04:06 PM

Not that I'm much for defending WD (despite giving him a clean slate this year after it was revealed that Willie had been given a mandate to play the kids last year from his superiors; thus the near-sewering of Burrows' career ... and then Willie basically proving he's terrible with or without interference from management).

McCann and JV had no business playing a full year in the NHL last year (I'd argue JV had no business playing in the NHL at all considering he clearly didn't earn a shot in camp; McCann at least had an excellent camp). That's on management ... multiple fucking times.

As for Kenins, he stopped doing what earned him a shot in the NHL. He was also riding Bo's coattails hard.

The Vrbata thing never made any sense to me; he and the Sedins were incredible together and then Willie decided to break them up late in 14-15 and continued it into 15-16. Hansen benefitted from it, but Vrbata clearly lacked chemistry with everyone else on the team where Hansen fits with everyone.

Tryamkin; Linden said his turnaround is from his buy-in to nutrition and fitness.

Maybe he's worked some magic with Granlund. He was frustrating to watch last year and he's become a pretty decent offensive player this year. Not the best defensively, however. Certainly less defensive prowess than I was expecting from his reputation coming in.

He's fucked with Bae's head despite Bae being a top offensive player on the team for 2 years. How many inexplicable pressboxing should Bae get? He got the pressbox treatment earlier this year for 2 bad games after being the team's leading scorer over the previous 8. Then comments like, "this isn't a try league, it's a gotta get it done league" regarding Bae while he says guys like Megna and Sbisa get ice time because he likes their effort despite lack of production. Make some fucking sense, Willie!

Liquid_o2 03-08-2017 05:01 PM

Linden Vey will never play in the NHL full time. He is the definition of a career AHL'er

cdizzle_996 03-08-2017 07:00 PM

TSN 1040, radio home of Canucks, loses team broadcast rights to Rogers | Vancouver Sun

Jmac 03-08-2017 07:07 PM

I'm torn between hating TSN 1040 and hating Sportsnet in general ...

Aside from Ferraro and the other TSN guests (McKenzie, Duthie, etc.), I don't really care.

They destroyed the morning show, Donny, Mac, and Moj barely ever talk hockey in the afternoon, anyways (unless they're talking with Ferraro) and are rarely interesting.

Add on top their overly critical opinions of the Canucks when they were actually good because they hated Gillis and their frequent attempts to create goalie controversies and other drama.

murd0c 03-08-2017 09:50 PM

wow thats massive news, I wonder when we will find out more details?

highfive 03-08-2017 10:08 PM

You deserve this when you constantly bring back tony Gallagher to the pregame show. How the fuck do you attract listeners with that whiney Ass voice

Ch28 03-08-2017 10:20 PM

I think the other issue could be the fact that the Canucks brass + AQ doesn't like how the media on TEAM 1040 are always criticizing them on air about their decisions on the team.

Bouncing Bettys 03-08-2017 10:28 PM

What does Sportsnet have to offer in the realm of radio in this region? Hopefully nothing like their national TV coverage.

Ch28 03-08-2017 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8828016)
What does Sportsnet have to offer in the realm of radio in this region? Hopefully nothing like their national TV coverage.

Did you even read the article?

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Some have suggested the move to Rogers opens up the possibility for them to launch a sports-based radio station here in Vancouver, as Rogers owns the Toronto Blue Jays and would likely want to carry their broadcasts across the country on its own station.

Currently, Rogers owns 55 radio stations across Canada, including News 1130, 96.9 Jack FM, and Kiss Radio here in B.C.

The Vancouver Canucks also call Rogers Arena their home ice.

Bouncing Bettys 03-08-2017 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8828018)
Did you even read the article?

The article didn't give a whole lot of information, thus my question. Do they have any local sports assets from their non-sports stations or tv who could make the move. Or are they going to be poaching from TSN and importing people from other markets? Bro Jake might not seem so bad in comparison.

quasi 03-09-2017 06:24 AM

I haven't listened to Team 1040 for more then 5 minutes in at least 6 years and I used to be 8-10 hour a day listener. The last nail in the coffin was when they brought Bro Jake on 4 years ago? I'm fairly sure he can't even spell sports yet he's half the morning show. I'm sure this change has more to do with moving everything back east then it does with the job the Team was doing though.

In regards to the radio station themselves I strictly stream American broadcasts which aren't without there faults but at least they cover everything and don't talk hockey 15 hours a day.

SumAznGuy 03-09-2017 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Bouncing Bettys (Post 8828026)
The article didn't give a whole lot of information, thus my question. Do they have any local sports assets from their non-sports stations or tv who could make the move. Or are they going to be poaching from TSN and importing people from other markets? Bro Jake might not seem so bad in comparison.

I'm sorry but Bro Jake is pretty bad. I can't imagine it getting worse than him and the Fat man.
Honestly, i like listening to Karen or the Sat man more than those 2 tards combined.

SumAznGuy 03-09-2017 06:31 AM

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Originally Posted by quasi (Post 8828053)
I haven't listened to Team 1040 for more then 5 minutes in at least 6 years and I used to be 8-10 hour a day listener. The last nail in the coffin was when they brought Bro Jake on 4 years ago? I'm fairly sure he can't even spell sports yet he's half the morning show. I'm sure this change has more to do with moving everything back east then it does with the job the Team was doing though.

In regards to the radio station themselves I strictly stream American broadcasts which aren't without there faults but at least they cover everything and don't talk hockey 15 hours a day.

I don't mind them talking hockey all day, mostly because I don't watch football, soccer, or basketball.
Don't mind baseball talk, but they don't know much about the game.
But I agree, I can't stand listening to BJ try to talk about hockey when he clearly knows nothing about it.
The Fat man's opinions are so far in left field, that it's as comical as Timpo's taste in bodykits.

highfive 03-09-2017 07:20 AM

When bro jake doesn't understand he just ends all conversation with HAHAHAHAHHAHA. He just forces it out.



Dahlen looking good!

Armind 03-09-2017 08:03 AM

https://www.hdwallpapers.net/preview...d-meme-589.jpg

Jmac 03-09-2017 08:12 AM

https://www.thesun.ie/sport/689515/l...ouver-canucks/

Doesn't look good on the Canucks

jeedee 03-09-2017 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8828078)

"Erik was injured, but I asked his team mate if he was playing tomorrow and he said ‘yeah, what’s the big deal?’ "

wonder who the teammate is 🤔🤔🤔

6o4__boi 03-09-2017 08:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8828078)

does explain a lot of things though

SumAznGuy 03-09-2017 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8828078)

What a garbage article. Having a pint the day before a game. It's not like it was game day or they were getting shit faced.


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