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Ahhhh yeah. Fuck why don’t they have you working to solve the addictions issues all over the world!
Just don’t do. Man why didn’t we already think of that.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Just got back from doing laundry at the Villa. Took longer than normal 'cause their wifi sucks balls and cell reception is poor. Finally got the vaccinated thing to show up. They don't have a scanner so i also had to dig out photo ID.
There must be an easier way. It's the first day, so they weren't prepared. I actually used the photo on my digital Services Card.
Save the vaccine card onto your photo either as pdf or screenshot, that way you don't need to rely on internet
Wonder what the cumulative amount of CERB collected was for these braindead fucks is. I bet the participants have the highest average dollar value collected/person in the lower mainland.
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Originally Posted by boostfever
Westopher is correct.
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Originally Posted by fsy82
seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Originally Posted by punkwax
Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
Wait they actually don't? I thought all non essential services ie. Not a grocery store need to see your Vax status.
Vape store is defs not essential
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Here is the list of places that need to check passports.
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By order of the Provincial Health Officer (PHO), proof of vaccination is required to access some events, services and businesses. You must have at least one dose of a COVID-19 vaccine. By October 24, you must be fully vaccinated. The requirement is in place until January 31, 2022 and could be extended.
The requirement applies to all people born in 2009 or earlier (12+) and covers:
Indoor ticketed sporting events with more than 50 people
Indoor concerts, theatre, dance and symphony events with more than 50 people
Licensed restaurants and cafes and restaurants and cafes that offer table service (indoor and patio dining), including liquor tasting rooms in wineries, breweries or distilleries
Pubs, bars and lounges (indoor and patio dining)
Nightclubs, casinos and movie theatres
Gyms, exercise/dance facilities/studios and these activities happening in recreation facilities
Businesses offering indoor exercise/fitness
Indoor adult group and team sports for people 22 years old or older
Indoor organized events with 50 or more people.
For example: wedding and funeral receptions (outside of a funeral home), organized parties, conferences, trade fairs and workshops
Indoor organized group recreational classes and activities with more than 50 people like pottery, art and choir
Post-secondary student housing
Spectators at indoor youth sporting events with more than 50 people
Note: Proof of vaccination is not required to vote in-person in the September 20 federal election or at advance polling places.
Examples of places that don't require proof of vaccination
You don't have to show proof of vaccination at places like:
Grocery stores, liquor stores and pharmacies
Unlicensed restaurants that don't offer table service
For example: fast food, coffee shops, food courts, food trucks and takeout
Tasting rooms without seating attached to wineries, breweries or distilleries
Local public transportation (BC Transit, TransLink, BC Ferries)
Salons, hairdressers and barbers
Hotels, resorts, cabins and campsites
Unless it is a setting or event covered by the PHO order. For example a licensed hotel restaurant, wedding reception or conference
Does not include exercise/fitness facilities in hotels that are for guests
Swimming pools (unless it’s the location of an event) and skating rinks (unless being used for adult sport)
Banks and credit unions
Retail and clothing stores
Public libraries, museums, art galleries (unless they are the location of an event)
Food banks and shelters
Escape rooms, laser tag, indoor paint ball, arcades and bowling alleys (if they are unlicensed or don't offer food-related table service)
Post-secondary on-campus cafeterias
Airport food courts and restaurants
Health care services, rehabilitation or exercise therapy programs, and drug and alcohol support group meetings
Social services provided to people in need
You don't have to show proof of vaccination at events like:
Worship services
Indoor youth recreational sport for people 21 years old or younger
Before and after school programs for K to 12 students
Student events and activities in K to 12 public and independent schools
Indoor organized events with less than 50 people, except adult sports
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It was never offered here. It got emergency approval, but then the manufacturer fucked it all up in the eastern US, and no orders were filled. I believe they pulled the approval after that.
Thanks for that. Someone was asking and I didn't know, figured someone here would.
As for the passport system, it all seems like a big joke. People can't go in to a restaurant and sit at a table as they always have been but totally OK to go to Walmart or Costco where thousands of people a day are through there touching everything in sight? It makes no logical sense. Imagine telling healthy people they can't go the to the gym and exercise to stay healthy..... in the name of health. None of the transmission data from the past supports these measures, gyms accounted for approx 3% of all transmissions in BC if I recall correctly. It also counters data from the likes of CDC that says 70%+ of COVID cases in the US are amongst the obese. Meanwhile the Gov has done absolutely nothing about long-term care facilities which continue to drive up the numbers with outbreaks amongst the most vulnerable of our population. Clown world with clown policy makers - it saddens me to see people blindly cheering it on. However there are a rising number of businesses claiming they won't enforce it, and many more I'm sure who will less publicly do so as well.
Vaccinated or not I don't care but no one should be supporting this system. It's not going to do anything that they're selling, all it's doing is dividing the community. I really feel for those who have legitimate medical exemptions for the vaccines who are now second class citizens. Being denied service for a medical condition, regardless of it being an inoculation or being in a wheelchair, is discrimination.
I do agree that this shouldn't apply to people with medical exemptions, however that is probably 1/10000 unvaccinated people that applies to.
I don't necessarily agree with the whole passport, but again, I just don't care about these people not being able to get chicken fingies.
The alternative is to bring back rolling lockdowns, and I did my part, I'm safe, so why should I stay inside because someone else couldn't be bothered, or just doesn't like being told what to do? That's really what it is at this point for most of them. They'll take horse dewormer or shark nausea medication or put dog toothpaste in their asshole but won't take these vaccines because they are "experimental." There is absolutely no logic in that, and it's just rooted in them wanting to say fuck you to the "sheep" and act like being a contrarian makes you smarter than the general population.
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Westopher is correct.
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seems like you got a dick up your ass well..get that checked
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Well.. I’d hate to be the first to say it, but Westopher is correct.
restaurants are already checking for mask, checking for ID for booze, checking if the CC is the actual person... what's one more check on health status. So bottom line, yes, if you copied someone's QR code and / or if the QR code didn't scan properly... whatever....no one is going to really be able to enforce it.
Just like how those who just walked out from the airport when they were suppose to go to the hotel to quarantine.
I can get why they didn't allow medical exemptions because pretty much everyone who didn't get the vaccine would find some bullshit reason to get an exemption from some crackpot anti vaxx doctor out there and the whole system would be pointless.
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Save the vaccine card onto your photo either as pdf or screenshot, that way you don't need to rely on internet
I did and it was there, but when it came to look for it, it was nowhere to be seen. Anyway, it wasn't that big of a deal. If only they had the QR Code reader.
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I did and it was there, but when it came to look for it, it was nowhere to be seen. Anyway, it wasn't that big of a deal. If only they had the QR Code reader.
Which is literally just an app they could have downloaded in 30 seconds if they wanted… lol
I put it on my phone to check people at hockey next week.
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I'm not antimask but Glen Greenwald is and he paints an interesting picture about the met gala (all guests r exempt from masks, but staff/crew, photogs, and onlookers gotta b masked)
Thanks for that. Someone was asking and I didn't know, figured someone here would.
As for the passport system, it all seems like a big joke. People can't go in to a restaurant and sit at a table as they always have been but totally OK to go to Walmart or Costco where thousands of people a day are through there touching everything in sight? It makes no logical sense. Imagine telling healthy people they can't go the to the gym and exercise to stay healthy..... in the name of health. None of the transmission data from the past supports these measures, gyms accounted for approx 3% of all transmissions in BC if I recall correctly. It also counters data from the likes of CDC that says 70%+ of COVID cases in the US are amongst the obese. Meanwhile the Gov has done absolutely nothing about long-term care facilities which continue to drive up the numbers with outbreaks amongst the most vulnerable of our population. Clown world with clown policy makers - it saddens me to see people blindly cheering it on. However there are a rising number of businesses claiming they won't enforce it, and many more I'm sure who will less publicly do so as well.
Going to Walmart/Costco: Keep your mask on, no socializing outside of the people you came in with, get out. Transmission is not occurring through touching of shared objects. Are you still lysoling your doorknobs like it's April 2020?
Going to a Sit-down restaurant: Masks off to eat, socializing in close quarters for hours at a time, strangers within 6 feet of you doing the same.
Gym: Heavy breathing in a small enclosed space with strangers with weak mask enforcement, if any.
They are not even remotely the same and it's pretty obvious why the Retail is excluded but the latter 2 are not.
I'm not antimask but Glen Greenwald is and he paints an interesting picture about the met gala (all guests r exempt from masks, but staff/crew, photogs, and onlookers gotta b masked)
I know it's not a direct comparison, but tv shows and stuff in Korea, same thing. Everyone masks up, but when the cameras start rolling celebrities take their masks off while staff & crew are still masked.
it could be that the Met Gala guests were all tested, or that contractors/companies have different protocol than guests.
but yes, the optics of this are very poor and it just gives fodder to morons like Glen Greenwald. It's like Obama's birthday party thing.
Now, all that said, at some point we have to return to a semblance of normalcy, it may look odd right now but baby steps, right?
Going to Walmart/Costco: Keep your mask on, no socializing outside of the people you came in with, get out. Transmission is not occurring through touching of shared objects. Are you still lysoling your doorknobs like it's April 2020?
Going to a Sit-down restaurant: Masks off to eat, socializing in close quarters for hours at a time, strangers within 6 feet of you doing the same.
Gym: Heavy breathing in a small enclosed space with strangers with weak mask enforcement, if any.
They are not even remotely the same and it's pretty obvious why the Retail is excluded but the latter 2 are not.
Ah, so you think people follow the rules to a T in places that support your argument and enforcement is weak in the places that don't. Gotcha
I guess my question to those who think the passport is a good idea is.... what happens when this doesn't work (which it won't it's effect will be negligible). BC currently has 278 people in hospital with 139 of them in critical care. Let's say those numbers stay relatively the same which is what's important over simple positive test numbers. Right now BC has 77.026% of eligible population with one dose and 70.198% fully vaccinated. We are now within a couple weeks of the 'herd immunity' numbers they wanted back when the vaccines dropped. So...
In four months are you going to cheer on a passport extension if it didn't do anything to change the hospital numbers?
Are you going to support an expansion of the passport to more areas and businesses?
If that passport requirement changes to making it mandatory to get a third vaccine and everyone is suddenly on the outs of eligibility are you lining up for another shot? Will you line up for a fourth shot?
A lot of people with covid were being hospitalized or dying due to comorbidities. Some of those comorbidities were due to poor life choices like obesity. If poor choices are enough to expect people to pay for their own medical expenses, imagine all the people we could exclude: the obese, smokers, alcoholics, addicts, extreme sports participants, etc. They should pay their own costs too? Do we get to withhold treatment until they agree to pay? How does this new healthcare system work?
yes, you smoke for 20 years and get lung cancel, you pay.
you drink a bottle a day and get liver failure, you pay.
you get cancer out of no fault of your own, the government pays
you break a leg walking down the street or playing hockey/skiing, government pays
sure it's not black and white and would be very difficult to actually put into effect but people should be held responsible for their actions otherwise they'll continue to be a drain on the system
yes, you smoke for 20 years and get lung cancel, you pay.
you drink a bottle a day and get liver failure, you pay.
you get cancer out of no fault of your own, the government pays
you break a leg walking down the street or playing hockey/skiing, government pays
sure it's not black and white and would be very difficult to actually put into effect but people should be held responsible for their actions otherwise they'll continue to be a drain on the system
Super stoked on this! The opioid crisis is over! "Hey Jim, it's John again from Vancouver Fire. This is your eighth shot of Narcan, you still owe us for the previous seven. Jim? Tick tock man wake up. Steve he's not responding, doesn't have any money or a card on him. On to the next I guess." We're gonna have so much more money for bike lanes!
yes, you smoke for 20 years and get lung cancel, you pay.
you drink a bottle a day and get liver failure, you pay.
you get cancer out of no fault of your own, the government pays
you break a leg walking down the street or playing hockey/skiing, government pays
sure it's not black and white and would be very difficult to actually put into effect but people should be held responsible for their actions otherwise they'll continue to be a drain on the system
We literally cater to those people.
A while back there was the story about the native guy who was on the list for a liver transplant but couldn’t stop drinking. He then went to the news and they spin it into a discrimination story.
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yes, you smoke for 20 years and get lung cancel, you pay.
you drink a bottle a day and get liver failure, you pay.
A friend had a chunk of his lung removed last year and then had to undergo throat chemo all directly related to smoking and he's not outta pocket one penny and doesn't not have additional medical or anything. 'Sup with that?
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