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Armind 12-19-2008 08:33 AM

I was sorta expecting Burke to be there too..

mako 12-19-2008 08:34 AM

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fullyentranced 12-19-2008 08:52 AM

^lol Owned

mako 12-19-2008 08:54 AM

i laugh everytime

Chairman Kaga 12-19-2008 09:02 AM

Once the Canucks take out Jaffray (due to roster constraints) we will have about $3.1 mil left.

Once March 4th (trade deadline) comes that $3.1 mil is worth about $12 million.

We don't have to worry about cap space. If we're trading we also lose the salary we give back

Chairman Kaga 12-19-2008 09:02 AM

Gillis on 1040 this morning just said JP Barry called him monday morning and said Mats would phone him in a few mins...

Gillis said the first things Mats asked was how signing him would affect the team immedietly and who would be moved out. He had concerned about all the guys already on the Canucks.

Gillis went over everything... Mats went to a practise for some Swedish training thing, then called Gillis back and asked "How'd you like another Swede!"

punkwax 12-19-2008 09:03 AM

Pyatt will stay.
Raymond needs to pass more and he'd be way more productive. You're in the NHL now kid, pass the fucking puck.

I think we should go after Bouwmeester to permanently replace Mr. Glass. Don't forget Ohlund doesn't have too much left in the tank either.

Gaborik would be nice but I think overall we could use another solid Dman in the playoffs.

winson604 12-19-2008 09:05 AM

The little things...
Jeff Paterson
Dec 19, 2008, 12:37 PM EST

http://canucks.nhl.com/team/app/?ser...ticleid=399073

That 1-0 loss on home ice to Boston. A pair of shootout setbacks against Colorado. The 2-1 loss on Long Island last month.

In fact, eight of the Vancouver Canucks last 10 losses have been by just one goal. Welcome to town, Mats Sundin. Here are your skates, here’s your jersey -- your job is to get out there and help the Canucks find a way to turn those narrow losses into victories.

Obviously, with 18 wins in their first 32 games, the Canucks have more than held their own without Sundin and for long stretches without Roberto Luongo, Pavol Demitra and Kevin Bieksa.

But once they inject Sundin in to the line-up, his skill and his ability to bring out more from the guys he plays with, should go a long way to helping the Canucks win a few more of the tight games they have let slip away so far this season.

Just take those games mentioned above for example. Perhaps Sundin sets up a goal to get the game with Boston into overtime to earn the Canucks at least one more point in the standings.

Then let’s, for argument sake, say that helped the Canucks win one of the games against Colorado in overtime instead of letting it get to a shootout and maybe the Islanders game never even gets beyond regulation.

Based on those three games alone, there’s an additional three points in the standings that would have the Canucks three points up on Calgary in the Northwest Division. And as recent years have shown, even three points at the end of the season, can mean an awful lot.

Granted, all of the above is hypothetical, but the point is that in theory the addition of Sundin should help the Canucks in almost every area – but most-importantly in the win and point columns.

While everyone will surely marvel at Sundin’s size and playmaking and his consistency, here’s another much-more subtle area where the big free-agent is bound to make the Vancouver Canucks a better hockey club.

Lifetime, Sundin is 10 for 24 (41.7%) in shootouts. On a hockey club that is one for four in game-deciding skills competitions so far this season and one that has won just seven of the last 20 shootouts it has been involved in, there is plenty of room for improvement in that department.

That means over the past season and a half, the Canucks have left 13 bonus points on the table – or worse, in many cases, allowed divisional and conference rivals to wrestle those points away from the Canucks. To put Sundin’s shootout skills in perspective, his 10 career shootout goals equal the combined career output of Daniel and Henrik Sedin, Taylor Pyatt, Ryan Kesler and Kyle Wellwood.

Obviously, Mats Sundin wasn’t pursued by the Canucks with the sole purpose of helping them win games in shootouts. Ideally, with Sundin in the line-up, the Canucks are hoping they can score a few more goals along the way to prevent some of the close games they find themselves in from ever reaching that stage.

Sundin should make the Canucks power play better immediately. Whether he becomes the right-handed shot to play with the Sedins or whether he’s paired with the likes of Pavol Demitra, Sundin is a presence on the ice that other teams simply have to be wary of.

Six times in the past eight years, Sundin has scored 10 or more power play goals (a total of 88 PPG during that stretch). That’s significant because as it stands right now, Kyle Wellwood appears to be the only Canuck likely to threaten double-digits in power play goals this season.

Obviously, with Sundin joining the Canucks near the midway mark of the season, everything, including expectations, has to be pro-rated but there’s still plenty of time for him to make the team’s power play much better than 16th in the league where it currently stands.

Detroit, Boston, Philadelphia and Chicago are the top four teams in power play statistics and are among the top four teams in the league. It’s not a co-incidence. And in a league where games are so often so tight and a power play goal can make the difference, having Sundin out there working with the man-advantage should translate into a few more wins along the way.

Mats Sundin is a big man and his addition to the Canucks is very big news, but at the end of the day, it’s some of the little things that he does so well that should really pay dividends.

HonestTea 12-19-2008 09:09 AM

Yeah...I don't know why the organization hated Burke...THAT much lol he seems to be pretty choked from not getting invited and seemed like he actually REALLY wanted to be at the Linden tribute!

stuff99 12-19-2008 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by trdees (Post 6181808)
anyone see the sportsnet interview they had with naslund after the sundin segement? Naslund seems kinda choked that vancouver is doing crazy without him

what did he say exactly? vid?

CaRcuS 12-19-2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by iwantaskyline (Post 6181741)
^
You clearly don't watch hockey or if you do, you don't know how to play the game. Pyatt is not a top 6 player on this team, he is a great player in the bottom 9 who can play in all 3 zones. He knows how to protect the puck with his body, play responsible defense and is rarely out of position. If you are expecting a 25+ goal/60point top 6 player you're looking at the wrong player. AV played him in the top 6 because the Canucks HAD no other players that were able to play there.

???
1.) I do watch hockey, every day no matter what teams are playing.
2.) I played from atom - Junior A ( career ended 3 yrs ago)
3.) Play division 3 Regional Hockey

I know what I said about Pyatt. He isnt top 6 of corse. I dont think there is room for him to even be on this roster. Its a waste on this club and he is just a slug doesnt produce anything good. Do you think in 32gp having 4 goals and 6 assist ( 10 point total) and being a -1. ????

why dont you go play some more pikachu and ddr you fucking clown

winson604 12-19-2008 09:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by stuff99 (Post 6182064)
what did he say exactly? vid?

It was really a typical player response with him basically saying we wanted him here but we didn't get him, good for vancouver they will love him BS. It was just the look on his face that seemed like "FUCK Sundin went to Vancouver Motherfucker!", as for tone of voice typical Nassy.

Armind 12-19-2008 10:04 AM

KICK PYATT NOW!!!!!!!!!!!! I hate watching him every game

Armind 12-19-2008 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Chairman Kaga (Post 6182042)

Once March 4th (trade deadline) comes that $3.1 mil is worth about $12 million.

can you explain more about this? im quite curious

winson604 12-19-2008 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 5enses (Post 6182094)
can you explain more about this? im quite curious

prorated - To divide, distribute, or assess proportionately.

For example a player has a 1 year contract worth 10million. Lets say somebody grabs him exactly half way through the year. The other team will pay him at the prorated amount which is 5 million.

So 3.1 million on March 4th which is is basically 3/4 into the season will be worth 12 million.

caronimo 12-19-2008 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hotjoint (Post 6182013)
Burke shoulda been invited

burke should stop crying like a little baby, like seriously, how old is the guy, like 50?

MG1 12-19-2008 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NeTWorKz (Post 6182051)
Yeah...I don't know why the organization hated Burke...THAT much lol he seems to be pretty choked from not getting invited and seemed like he actually REALLY wanted to be at the Linden tribute!

Burke was the kind of person who called a spade a spade and he rubbed people the wrong way. Having said that, he is an honourable individual. Trevor Linden night was about Trevor, not anyone else. I guess the organizers purposely fucked that one up. Burke was part of bringing Linden to this city the first time and was also there to get him back after the numbnut brothers (Keenan and Messier) left.

I wonder if Linden had any input at all in the ceremony. I'm guessing not. Linden did reference Burke in his speech. Politics always screw things up. Tambilini was there, but then again, the Canucks were playing Edmonton, LOL. Hard to avoiid that one.

Burke said he's not going to dwell on it, but he was definitely hurt by it.

Oh well, shit happens.

MG1 12-19-2008 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winson604 (Post 6182110)
prorated - To divide, distribute, or assess proportionately.

This is Revscene. You gotta use car terms. Like prorated battery or tire warranty. Then it all makes sense to these gear heads. LOL.

MG1 12-19-2008 10:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caronimo (Post 6182131)
burke should stop crying like a little baby, like seriously, how old is the guy, like 50?

Buddy, he was not crying or whining. He's not that kind of a guy, but he too has feelings.

If you have met the guy, you would not dare say that kind of stuff to his face. Nuff said.

Durrann1984 12-19-2008 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caronimo (Post 6182131)
burke should stop crying like a little baby, like seriously, how old is the guy, like 50?

c'mon man U would cry if u missed the greatest thing that happened to canucks

tell me u wouldnt bitch bout it if u were burke?

CRS 12-19-2008 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaRcuS (Post 6182070)
???
1.) I do watch hockey, every day no matter what teams are playing.
2.) I played from atom - Junior A ( career ended 3 yrs ago)
3.) Play division 3 Regional Hockey

I know what I said about Pyatt. He isnt top 6 of corse. I dont think there is room for him to even be on this roster. Its a waste on this club and he is just a slug doesnt produce anything good. Do you think in 32gp having 4 goals and 6 assist ( 10 point total) and being a -1. ????

why dont you go play some more pikachu and ddr you fucking clown

Psssst!


Maybe if we all ignore iwantaskyline, he's get the hint and keep his thoughts to himself!

7seven 12-19-2008 11:11 AM

Sundin's contract

Quote:

The Province's Jason Botchford has learned Mats Sundin's contract numbers. It may not be a sweetheart deal but it's close if you consider what the Canucks originally offered.

Sundin took significantly less than was offered to ensure the Canucks had enough money to add more players if an opportunity presents itself.

The total cap hit of the deal for the Canucks is $5.625 million and that has been confirmed with the team.

This is how it breaks down:

For his pro-rated salary, Sundin will receive $1.625. Annualized, that is about a $2.6 million salary.

For his signing bonus, Sundin will receive $4 million. The Canucks have confirmed that they have $2.5 million in salary cap space.

The total annualized value of the deal is $8.6 million. That's $1.4 million less than what Sundin was offered.
http://communities.canada.com/thepro...is-season.aspx

Grandmaster TSE 12-19-2008 11:25 AM

sundin is on am1040 right now

411ken 12-19-2008 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by caronimo (Post 6182131)
burke should stop crying like a little baby, like seriously, how old is the guy, like 50?

Stupid comment right here^ The guy brought back the best player the canucks ever had. Even a video comment would have been nice but I would have loved to see him there live. If we had a different GM, we probably wouldn't have had linden back or have him spent the remainder of his career here.

winson604 12-19-2008 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Grandmaster TSE (Post 6182185)
sundin is on am1040 right now

There is also a 21 minute interview with Mats I guess from earlier today on Canuck.com under "More News" on the main page.


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