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kristianhay 09-27-2009 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD Rs200 (Post 6611579)
I think schneider is going to get traded

Hopefully. He's a top prospect goalie and his value will only go down the longer we keep him wasting away. It'd be better for his career anyways to go to a team where he wont be backup to such a great goalie such as Lu. Hopefully he'll be part of a great deal when the day comes!

Regarding CoHo, who knows if he'll have his 9 games to prove himself a little more. Hansen is out with a broken hand after crushing Brule (http://www.vancouversun.com/business...167/story.html) so it seems that it's between Glass and CoHo. I'm thinking it will be Glass though.

shawn79 09-27-2009 10:27 PM

whos worth more giggy or schneider?

Ch28 09-27-2009 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by shawn79 (Post 6611646)
whos worth more giggy or schneider?

Are you serious?

MR_BIGGS 09-27-2009 11:02 PM

I hope Glass makes the team, I like how he plays tough.

shawn79 09-27-2009 11:12 PM

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Originally Posted by shawn79 (Post 6611646)
whos worth more giggy or schneider?

yup:D

Harvey Specter 09-27-2009 11:45 PM

Fuck, I'm going to be in Toronto for the season opener but thank god the game is on CBC.

The Hype 09-28-2009 12:42 AM

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Originally Posted by shawn79 (Post 6611646)
whos worth more giggy or schneider?

...You don't mean J.S Giguere do you?

Not really racist! 09-28-2009 11:57 AM

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=500114

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All the pieces are in place for the Vancouver Canucks to capture their third Northwest Division title in four years.

Some of those pieces are obvious. The retention of the Sedin twins. The "lifetime" contract extension for goaltender Robert Luongo, the face of the franchise. And some good old-fashioned motivation after their second-round ouster by the Chicago Blackhawks last spring.

Some of the pieces, though, are not so obvious, yet wonderfully compelling. And who knows? They may end up being integral pieces to the Stanley Cup puzzle that the Canucks haven't solved in nearly four decades.

There's rookie Sergei Shirokov, the International Man of Mystery.

There's that instant Swedish seamlessness.

There's the Incredible Shrinking Triumvirate, headlined by Kyle (Abs of Steel)
Wellwood.

There's the Marathon Man.

There's the defensive cup that runneth over.

Then there's coach Alain Vigneault -- who's on the verge of signing a three-year contract extension after winning the Jack Adams Trophy, surviving a disastrous follow-up campaign, then helping to develop the likes of Ryan Kesler and Alex Burrows into core players while winning another division title.

"He's a players' coach," Burrows said. "You don't take anything for granted, because he knows how to push the right buttons and get guys fired up."



Henrik and Daniel Sedin enter their ninth NHL seasons as two of the most creative, dynamic players in the game. And this season, they'll have a couple options out of the box when it comes to a first-line playmate.

One of them is Burrows, a checking-line catalyst who discovered some up-tempo chemistry with the Sedins last winter, notching 17 of his 28 goals while aligned with the twins. But another is fellow Swede Mikael Samuelsson, a Stanley Cup winner who moved over from Detroit via free agency and was a linemate of the Sedins at the 2006 Torino Olympics and the 2004 world championship.

Samuelsson is "more Canadian than Swedish," Daniel said during training camp. "He's tough to play against, and gets under your skin and can frustrate you because he's so strong."

Pavol Demitra, the club's second-line right-wing, won't be back in the lineup until mid-October while he recovers from off-season shoulder surgery. That opens up some opportunities for numerous players alongside center/winger Ryan Kesler. Enter two members of that aforementioned svelte trio -- Kyle Wellwood, who's dropped 17 pounds, and Steve Bernier, who's lost 15 pounds (defenseman Shane O'Brien is packing 20 less pounds).

Bernier is ready to bounce back after a frustrating season during which his finishing touch escaped him. And Wellwood, who wasn't known for his physique, has come to camp chiseled, and noticeably quicker on the ice.

"If I said no, I'd be lying," Vigneault said when asked if he was surprised at the change in Wellwood. "I think probably for the first time in his life . . . he is in real good shape. Until that happens to a professional player, you don't know the limits. I think now we're going to find out."

Rounding out the top 12 forwards -- all on one-way deals -- are the offensively minded Mason Raymond, agitator Darcy Hordichuk, scrapper Rick Rypien and journeyman center Ryan Johnson, who ran his first marathon in honor of his late father Jim at Duluth, Minn., in June, breaking the four-hour barrier.
Raymond now tips the Toledos at 187 pounds with more muscle on his once-skinny frame, and hopes to solidify his roster spot after an up-and-down season with the Canucks.

Meanwhile, Canucks draftees and farmhands Jannik Hansen, Michael Grabner, Cody Hodgson and Sergei Shirokov will battle for the two final forward spots while Demitra is on the shelf.
Hodgson, already considered the odds-on favorite to win this year's Calder Trophy by The Hockey News, will be given every opportunity to stick with the big club, since his alternative is going back to the major junior Brampton Battalion.

But the dark horse who's really staked a claim for a long-shot roster spot is Shirokov, who left $500,000 on the table in Russia's Kontinental Hockey League to sign a two-way deal with Vancouver.

The 23-year-old Muscovite, a 163rd-overall pick of the Canucks, was a relative unknown, having spent the past four seasons with Moscow Red Army.

"Every time he steps on the ice, there have been moments where he really caught our attention," praised Vigneault. "He's really upbeat, with a lot of energy."

Unfortunately for the young Russian, a knee injury incurred Sept. 18 at San Jose, which was expected to keep him out a week, could very well kibosh his chances.



The Canucks are in an enviable position at the back end.

They head into the 2009-10 season with one of the deepest defensive corps in the league, with more mobility, experience, velocity and beef than at any time in recent years, and they've also got 10 players on one-way contracts battling for seven roster spots.

That crowded house was created at the end of August when, in one fell swoop, Vancouver picked up Christian Ehrhoff and Brad Lukowich from San Jose (in a trade made by the Sharks to clear salary-cap space for Dany Heatley) and inked veteran free agent Mathieu Schneider to a one-year, $1.55M deal.

With Mattias Ohlund's free-agent departure for Tampa Bay, the top six members of the Canucks' defense corps is now fairly clear:

* Sami Salo, who possesses tactical savvy and one of the league's biggest bombs from the blue line, but has been dogged by recent injury problems.

* Kevin Bieksa, a rugged, defensively aware big-minute eater with a big point shot and a penchant for dropping the gloves.

* Willie Mitchell, the club's surprisingly mobile shutdown ace.

* Steady youngster Alexander Edler, who shows defensive responsibility and offensive potential.

* Smooth-skating, puck-carrying German native Ehrhoff, with an offensive flair and an ability to log big minutes.

* And Schneider, 40, a power-play specialist and another great point-shot artist who adds an offensive dimension.

From here, it gets interesting. Purely based on experience, Shane O'Brien and Lukowich would appear to be in a battle for the No. 7 spot on the roster.

O'Brien is in the best shape of his life; Lukowich, a two-time Stanley Cup winner, has played 711 career NHL games.

The Canucks -- who had $59.65 million committed to their players heading into training camp, nearly $3M over the $56.8M-per-club ceiling -- may be forced to make decisions based on the salary cap, and nowhere are those decisions more obvious than on the blue line.

The ninth and 10th players on the Vancouver depth chart, Aaron Rome and Lawrence Nycholat, are also on one-way contracts, and draw $525,000 and $500,000 this season, respectively. While O'Brien ($1.6M) and Lukowich ($1.567) both boast more NHL seasoning, the Canucks may decide it's not worth spending an extra million on a seventh defenseman -- meaning one, or both could get traded or waived.

Vigneault has said the Canucks will carry eight defensemen into the season, with Schneider most likely on the injured list to start the season, recovering from off-season shoulder surgery.

"It's a salary cap era," said O'Brien. "If you do get a little bit of a pay raise and things happen where they can't slide you under, the next thing you know you're on waivers."

Observed Lukowich: "It's the new NHL. We're not used to that. They're not used to that. Nobody is. But for the general manager and coaches and the organization, what better way is there to have it, to have guys fighting for it?"



After locking up the Sedin twins with the help of a red-eye flight to Sweden, Canucks General Manager Mike Gillis pulled another rabbit out of his hat by locking up Luongo to a 12-year, $64M "lifetime" deal.

While Vancouver is sold on Luongo, one of the top goalies in the game, Gillis also said there was another factor at play.

"In my mind, the defining feature of doing a contract at this length was the fact he plays goal," Gillis said. "We saw two 40-year-old goalies playing in the league this year. Dominik Hasek was a dominant goalie late into his 30s and early 40s ... there's a lot of precedents at this position.

"We didn't have any of the discomfort we might have had with a skating defenseman or forward."

Battling for the right to back up "Bobby Lu" are two men taking decidedly different career paths.

Cory Schneider was the American Hockey League's goalie of the year in 2008-09 and led the Manitoba Moose to the Calder Cup final.

"My goal has been to make this team the entire summer," said the 23-year-old from Marblehead, Mass.

Meanwhile, Andrew Raycroft, a former Calder Trophy winner, is just hoping to catch on to his fourth NHL team in five years.

A former starter in Boston and Toronto, Raycroft has almost become an afterthought, and will have to work hard to outduel Schneider for the No. 2 job.

Chairman Kaga 09-28-2009 01:05 PM

http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=500177


Canucks reduce preseason roster by eight

Monday, 28.09.2009 / 4:59 PM / News
Vancouver Canucks

Vancouver, B.C. – Vancouver Canucks President & General Manager Mike Gillis announced that the Canucks have reduced their pre-season roster by eight players today. The Canucks now have 29 players on their pre-season roster.

The following players have been assigned to the Manitoba Moose:

Nolan Baumgartner, Defence
Alexandre Bolduc, Centre
Mario Bliznak, Centre
Guillame Desbiens, Right Wing
Michael Grabner, Right Wing
Nathan McIver, Defence
Matt Pope, Right wing
Cory Schneider, Goaltender


Grabner/Schneider sent down. No real surprise there

MR_BIGGS 09-28-2009 01:07 PM

Tyler Glass still here...YA

CRS 09-28-2009 01:19 PM

No surprise really.

Glad that Hodgson is still there.

It seems as though the more games he plays, the better he gets. Probably just a correlation with this recovery.

Chairman Kaga 09-28-2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 6612268)
Tyler Glass still here...YA

Tanner Glass.

punkwax 09-28-2009 02:04 PM

Hodgeson will be given his 9 ... after that I'm not so sure. I find it doubtful he'll remain.

I hope I'm wrong!

fobulaus 09-28-2009 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Not really racist! (Post 6612194)
"If I said no, I'd be lying," Vigneault said when asked if he was surprised at the change in Wellwood. "I think probably for the first time in his life . . . he is in real good shape. Until that happens to a professional player, you don't know the limits. I think now we're going to find out."

lol there will never be an end to Wellwood fat jokes

fobulaus 09-28-2009 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodnarb (Post 6612333)
Hodgeson will be given his 9 ... after that I'm not so sure. I find it doubtful he'll remain.

I hope I'm wrong!

I agree... I think Gillis wants Hodgson to see more of what he needs to work on going back to Juniors....

SumAznGuy 09-28-2009 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Nodnarb (Post 6612333)
Hodgeson will be given his 9 ... after that I'm not so sure. I find it doubtful he'll remain.

I hope I'm wrong!

My guess is his 9 games will coincide with Demitra being out with his rotator injury from last year.

Beyond that, I don't know who else will fill that spot.

411ken 09-28-2009 02:17 PM

I want to see what CoHo can do once he is in better conditioning.. I wanna see him stick around the entire season but I know that rushing him can be hurtful as well...

Atleast Shirokov will be sticking around :)

Harvey Specter 09-28-2009 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by MR_BIGGS (Post 6612268)
Tyler Glass still here...YA

Tyler Glass looked good in the preseason, I'm glad he's still around as well.

Expresso 09-28-2009 02:37 PM

Tons of players left and with one possible roster spot open really on one of the top 6. Unless we rotate some 4th liners.

MR_BIGGS 09-28-2009 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Jah Al Zawahiri (Post 6612366)
Tanner Glass looked good in the preseason, I'm glad he's still around as well.

I like how he plays. He finishes his hits, quick snappers from the slot.

Hondaracer 09-28-2009 02:55 PM

anyway you look at it, it's great to have those kind of good depth call-ups when we get injured

MR_BIGGS 09-28-2009 06:06 PM

Theo Fleury has now retired...cheers to him..

murd0c 09-28-2009 06:08 PM

all I know is I'm fricken pumped for thursday!!! for some reason the season is starting so quick this year and it feels good to have a team to be excited for at the beg of the season cause last year was sure up in the air!!

nsmb 09-28-2009 06:17 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2x2Wcs6ftw

nsmb 09-28-2009 06:20 PM

Hansen broke his hand in a fight with Edmonton’s Gilbert Brule on Sunday... FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/sport...rticle1304652/


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