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noots 03-04-2010 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 6843097)
People that complain about lack of trades are idiots.

NOBODY knows what went on between Gillis and the other GMs leading up to the deadline today.

sometimes the best moves are the ones you don't make.

everyone would have liked to have seen a top 4 dman and a 3rd line center but the asking price could have been too high (ex. nashville wanting hodgson for hamhuis)

trade deadline is a bit overrated in the post-cap era anyways.

Soundy 03-04-2010 06:03 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6843008)
Way to misquote me.

I didn't misquote anything, that's exactly as you wrote it.

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Let's see. A former first rounder who has only played 10 games since being drafted in 2004. I call that mismanagement.
Seven words for you: former goalie of the future Kevin Weekes.

Ronin 03-04-2010 06:06 AM

Kevin Weekes...is FROM THE FUTURE!?

Greenstoner 03-04-2010 07:38 AM

radio said Gillis might get Cory to play as a backup in the near future to up Cory's value before doing any trading...

411ken 03-04-2010 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenstoner (Post 6843441)
radio said Gillis might get Cory to play as a backup in the near future to up Cory's value before doing any trading...

Pretty sure that would be next year. I mean, can they really kick Raycroft out now lol.... I predict that he will be traded next year's deadline.

Lu Schneider combo next year with another "vet" as the 3rd wheel

murd0c 03-04-2010 07:57 AM

Racroft won't be paying for the nucks next year because he will want to make more them 500k remember this year he's getting paid by the leafs as well so he's actually making more then what it looks like.
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Greenstoner 03-04-2010 09:14 AM

i kinda miss Lababra as a backup :D

i dont care what people say but i think Cory is really overated in NHL games...

Greenstoner 03-04-2010 09:30 AM

has anyone or any of your friends won the canucks E-news contest???

I been trying that for the past year and didnt win jack shit

spoon.ek9 03-04-2010 09:50 AM

i hope c.schnieder gets traded for the sake of his future. having him hang around here or in the minors isn't going to help much anymore. he needs to build a career in the NHL elsewhere cuz Lu isn't going anywhere for a long while. but who knows, have to wait for summer to see if anything will happen.

Tim Budong 03-04-2010 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 6842819)
My only issue with today's trade deadline passing is how we still have Cory Schnider. With every passing season, the value of Cory is going down. Look at Justin Poggy. He was supposed to be the goalie of the future, but that future doesn't include Toronto, and Anaheim.
As for Cory, he will be 25 next season, and has only played a handful of games with limited success. Gilles has stated that he will sit down with Cory and his agent to discuss his longer plans for Schnider, but if you look at the team in it's current state, what is that future plan? Playing 10 to 15 games next season as Luongo's backup?

Schnider was a first round pick, and right now he is not even worth a 4th round pick.
Joey Macdonald was traded for a 7th round pick in 2011 and Poggy was traded with a 4th round pick for Aaron Ward.

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Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 6843555)
i hope c.schnieder gets traded for the sake of his future. having him hang around here or in the minors isn't going to help much anymore. he needs to build a career in the NHL elsewhere cuz Lu isn't going anywhere for a long while. but who knows, have to wait for summer to see if anything will happen.

The thing is, how do you move a prospect to teams when the real purpose of the trade deadline is to make INSTANT improvement to the buyers.

No team out there is looking to add a goalie with somethign like..10ish or so games under their belt to carry the backup role into the playoffs. Cory Schneider here doesnt even have one NHL playoff game. Gillis is trying to sell the Cory Schneider Reign of Terror, but imo, the chances of that happening at a trade deadline is slim. If infact he were to be shipped, i can see it happening at draft day. The demand for goaltending at this time of year is usually teams looking for experienced goaltending to lead them into the playoffs. Someone life cory Schneider does not fall into this catagory. I believe it is not even Gillis' priority to trade off Schneider at this time unless he is used to trade for D depth, inwhich the team currently needs

fliptuner 03-04-2010 10:13 AM

Why not sell off C. Schneider and use the money to hang on to Raycroft?

Is it feasable or worth it to pay him what he's making now (incl TO money) to hang on to him? Or is he just a total bargain because of the TO contract?

edit: I don't know the numbers, so I'm asking...

411ken 03-04-2010 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Greenstoner (Post 6843517)
i kinda miss Lababra as a backup :D

i dont care what people say but i think Cory is really overated in NHL games...

What makes you say that he is overrated when he's only played a handful of games?

Tim Budong 03-04-2010 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by fliptuner (Post 6843598)
Why not sell off C. Schneider and use the money to hang on to Raycroft?

Is it feasable or worth it to pay him what he's making now (incl TO money) to hang on to him? Or is he just a total bargain because of the TO contract?

edit: I don't know the numbers, so I'm asking...

to sell off Cory, there must be decent return, inwhich we are lead to believe that there wasn't any at the offers Gillis got or opposing teams did not like the packages that were being shopped around for what the core of the team needs

Raycroft, is most likely trying to get back to being a no1 goaltender of some sort, may or may not happen. Remember Raycroft is a Calder Winner. Backup goalie money is usually limited, as no team wants to eat up 11mil in goaltending like the hawks did last year

wait till the season winds down and see what the canucks offer him. He has probably been the best of the three backups we had behind Luongo so far

fliptuner 03-04-2010 10:33 AM

Thanks.

I don't think many would disagree that he's a great backup. I guess it's a matter of how much he wants and what we can afford/where we want to spend the money.

Greenstoner 03-04-2010 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by 411ken (Post 6843603)
What makes you say that he is overrated when he's only played a handful of games?

same way i see carey price in the nhl league

SumAznGuy 03-04-2010 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 6843577)
The thing is, how do you move a prospect to teams when the real purpose of the trade deadline is to make INSTANT improvement to the buyers.

No team out there is looking to add a goalie with somethign like..10ish or so games under their belt to carry the backup role into the playoffs. Cory Schneider here doesnt even have one NHL playoff game. Gillis is trying to sell the Cory Schneider Reign of Terror, but imo, the chances of that happening at a trade deadline is slim. If infact he were to be shipped, i can see it happening at draft day. The demand for goaltending at this time of year is usually teams looking for experienced goaltending to lead them into the playoffs. Someone life cory Schneider does not fall into this catagory. I believe it is not even Gillis' priority to trade off Schneider at this time unless he is used to trade for D depth, inwhich the team currently needs

All is good except Anaheim traded away Justin Poggy and a 4th round pick to Carolina for Aaron Ward. And they gave Toronto a 7th round pick for Joey MacDonald. Did any of these trades make their goaltending stronger?
Oh yeah, MacDonald has played a total of 72 NHL games while Poggy has played 7 games.

No one can say for sure, but I think Brian Burke summed up what the trading deadline means pretty good. If a team is looking to revamp their team at the trading deadline, then they have done something seriously wrong with the makeup of their team.

In reality, the trade deadline is nothing more than an opportunity for teams to admit they are no longer in the playoff hunt, and to try to get high draft picks or young talent for whatever assests they had as well as teams trading salary cap space for said picks/young talent.

One thing I do agree, Schneider's value shouldn't change much between now and draft day, but at the current time, a second or third round pick is highly unlikely.

jlo mein 03-04-2010 03:38 PM

Can anyone provide a little knowledge on our new players and where they fit? I don't know much about Alberts and Zimmerman and where they fit in the Canucks' current and future plans. I'm also curious why Lukowich was reassigned to Manitoba, when I thought he's supposed to be a better defenseman than Baumgartner and Rome?

MR_BIGGS 03-04-2010 03:44 PM

Anyone know someone that has tickets to the bestbuy club or how someone could get their hand on two tickets? For the March 20th game vs the wings?

quasi 03-04-2010 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jlo mein (Post 6844024)
Can anyone provide a little knowledge on our new players and where they fit? I don't know much about Alberts and Zimmerman and where they fit in the Canucks' current and future plans. I'm also curious why Lukowich was reassigned to Manitoba, when I thought he's supposed to be a better defenseman than Baumgartner and Rome?


Alberts is a big body, 5/6th Dman and will play on the Canucks roster. He's going to fit a role sort of like O'Brian but hopefully more physical, a depth signing for sure. Zimmerman and Statsny are prospects and will be assigned to the minors.

SumAznGuy 03-04-2010 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6843391)
I didn't misquote anything, that's exactly as you wrote it.

Sorry, you didn't misquote me. You just took what I said and formed some other thought. I guess old age will do that to you.

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Originally Posted by Soundy (Post 6843391)
Seven words for you: former goalie of the future Kevin Weekes.

And your point?
The goalie from the future did play 347 games in the NHL, and got 2 shutouts while helping the Canes to the Stanley Cup finals in 2002.

raygunpk 03-04-2010 03:53 PM

Soundy is old?

RiceIntegraRS 03-04-2010 05:08 PM

Hopefully we just sign Cory for cheap, he'll play behind Luongo next season. He builds up his stats behind a offensive team like the Canucks and we trade him when a team needs him most.

CRS 03-04-2010 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by raygunpk (Post 6844044)
Soundy is old?

At first I was like...:Petting

Then i was like....:neckbeard:

Gh0stRider 03-04-2010 08:32 PM

wow...dirty hit by Maxim Lapierre on Scott Nichol and no penalty. wtf.

MR_BIGGS 03-04-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by TRD604 (Post 6844439)
wow...dirty hit by Maxim Lapierre on Scott Nichol and no penalty. wtf.

Lapierre is a douchebag. He was grinning on the bench after. Ferarro was ripping him one on tsn...


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