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Old 03-21-2019, 10:29 PM   #2726
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Wrong...Police don't inform the public properly, because they're not qualified educators and a few have bad grammar. It's the simplistic writing of a Police report. You are a great example.
MVA trumps any CVSE regulation, not withstanding any common law, and it is up to the discretion of the LEO to determine whether or not the vehicle should be VI'd.

if you mod your car to stand out, then be prepared to initiate a judicial review to contest the VI.
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anyway if you want the insurance savings, you have to jump through the hoops. obviously the car is non-oem, so that in itself is not true to the intentions of the collector plate.
https://www.icbc.com/vehicle-registr...-vehicles.aspx

except that there is a modified collector plate status available to just that... modified collector-eligible cars..
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MVA trumps any CVSE regulation, not withstanding any common law, and it is up to the discretion of the LEO to determine whether or not the vehicle should be VI'd.

if you mod your car to stand out, then be prepared to initiate a judicial review to contest the VI.
Too funny, but trying to use better grammar "Fail" - Using the word "and" after a comma is a crime. Not everyone in this forum have modified vehicles and received "poorly chicken scratched" written VI tickets. There isn't a law, whereas a vehicle has to be "OEM". I agree, LEO can cherry pick anything with anyone and is personally "bias" compromised version of Justice. (Personal Vendetta). Threats only work on Criminals.

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Nice! The 2nd post didn't look like the first cryptic post (copy & Paste)
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except that there is a modified collector plate status available to just that... modified collector-eligible cars..
Unfortunately I headd these do not work and mainly for resto-cars as there have been reports of people with modified plates given a VI. They will just use the same arguement for people who have passed their first VI and reverted back to modified for this case as cars with modified plates could add illegal modifications after their inspection. I think you have to pay a higher insurance rate for modified vehicle plates/registration as well so doesn’t seem worthwhile.
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Old 03-22-2019, 09:14 AM   #2732
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Update: All tuner cars for VIAS outside display arrived safely and some came without trailers/tow. There is a RCMP SUV on the property with lights lit up but I think its just for escorting/staging purposes or pedestrian safety. Now lets see what happens the day they roll out.
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Unfortunately I headd these do not work and mainly for resto-cars as there have been reports of people with modified plates given a VI. They will just use the same arguement for people who have passed their first VI and reverted back to modified for this case as cars with modified plates could add illegal modifications after their inspection. I think you have to pay a higher insurance rate for modified vehicle plates/registration as well so doesn’t seem worthwhile.
No man... modified collectors plates are available for collector plate worthy pre-1974 cars with mods... mine's a 1968 so it's an option for me now.

Up until a couple years ago it was like pre-1952... but they bumped it recently...

Absolutely nothing to do with current day modified vehicles status like you're talking about.
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Back in the dayz. Now just like any other prius driving old farts hogging the left lanee

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Government Body Responsible for VI's

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Is this our boy looking for a way to VI this?

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[quote=EugeMa;8943634]Is this our boy looking for a way to VI this?

You have to head over to Nissan for the 370 sports coup x4 4" exhaust tips
That's a big tease for a VI. Bad sign.. the guy on the right has dirty boots

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None VI related but vpd’s pr is not looking so great right now

https://vancouversun.com/news/crime/...box=1553283692


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Is this our boy looking for a way to VI this?

Illegal 'Euro plate', send to a dealer to make the streets safe
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Is this our boy looking for a way to VI this?

Looks like no amber reflectors in front. Automatic VI.
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This is interesting information. Nothing is outlined for illegal/unsafe Legal modifications

* Current Drivers Test Handbook * MV2902 (062016)
Class 5/7 "Tuning up for the Drivers"


- Drivers are responsible for a reliable vehicle, which meets "Legal Requirements"
- Vehicle defects & preventing breakdowns
- Basic car parts information

10 - Common things that would cancel a road test:
- Dash warning lights - safety eg. airbags
- Lights broken
- Unsafe tires
- Working Doors & Windows
- Broken/cracked windows - tinting door windows / windshield
- Seat belts not working or frayed
- Unsafe vehicle modifications


The MVA (upgrades to a vehicle) is interpreted by the average "Class 5" vehicle owner - They are ticketed for Vehicle Inspection and all of the sudden labeled "Vehicle Defective".
The Government & ICBC are responsible for making the "MVA" less cryptic for the general public. The average driver is/has been targeted with a law, which actually requires a Lawyer to interpret vs a LEO handing out a ticket "Vehicle Inspection". Generations of drivers have been victims and accused guilty (knowing illegal modifications)

****** Quebec - Has a website, which outlines vehicle modifications in clear and simple language. *******

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The Media usually like negative news reporting:

A typical Van, Car, SUV in a public parking lot with:
Crack windshields, broken tail lights, bald tires, non-OEM wheels can be issued a regular ticket, but "can" be issued a "Vehicle Inspection". This ticket is enforced by LEO, overseen by LEO and can't be contested like a speeding ticket.
Every driver is expected to be knowledgeable with their "Class 5" drivers license and are responsible for their safe vehicles maintenance. If a police catches the drivers with dash lights lit, visible vehicle unsafe mofication/damage and are potentially VI ticketed - subject to an inspection.

ICBC dumpster fire is: prompting Police giving out more tickets for safety reasons, while the 1 billion dollar ICBC debt continues to rise.

Under the MVA act (vehicle inspection) - A vehicle can be towed on the spot, license plates removed (voided) and removed off the road (within 30 days) for repairs. The repairs/inspection performed & passed. The LEO can void/prevent the vehicles inspection (with a legal loop hole) blaming the inspectors of incompetence.

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I appreciate your tenacity... but these posts have no direction they’re just rambling. Try organizing your thoughts a bit.
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I appreciate your tenacity... but these posts have no direction they’re just rambling. Try organizing your thoughts a bit.
It's all raw information. The Government & ICBC are really the targets. Any Lawyer would have a direction with my posts.
While my posts appear like rambling, it is clear for everyone holding a Class 5 license. It is clearly written in the handbook
(Drivers are responsible for a reliable vehicle, which meets "Legal Requirements"
Vehicle defects & preventing breakdowns)

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Raw information posted with no actual organization or conclusion left as “something to draw from” is the definition of rambling.

You should organize all your info into a website or guide of some sort, not just posted every 4 or 5 posts when it has nothing to do with the conversation taking place before or after where you posted it. Segues mean everything in the world of forum postings.
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@Carguru, I appreciate your input but I feel your use of the term LEO in referencing the police or the VPD doesn’t add to the credibility of your posts. In fact, if anything at all, the derogatory connotations implicit in your use of the term LEO robs your post of any credibility and, moreover, may create a negative perception of our position in this whole debacle.

The term LEO in this context is similar to how some people refer to professional accountants as “Bean Counters”... it’s not entirely offensive but it doesn’t add any value to the discussion - so why use that term at all?

Therefore, I respectfully ask that you stop using the term LEO in your posts as it’s not helping our cause.
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It's all raw information. The Government & ICBC are really the targets. Any Lawyer would have a direction with my posts.
While my posts appear like rambling, it is clear for everyone holding a Class 5 license. It is clearly written in the handbook
(Drivers are responsible for a reliable vehicle, which meets "Legal Requirements"
Vehicle defects & preventing breakdowns)
Believe me when I say there are tons of resources in this thread, due to posters such as yourself and others. However, it gets lost in the thread as the thread grows. As a result (and because I don't want our hard work researching go to waste), I have created this document.

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You can only use the comment feature. However, if you pm me your email address, I can open editing to you. Thanks for all your hard work!
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