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Bruh

I didn't know gaga was also a Virologist

She's rich though. Money does stuff.

You have mass hysteria created by the media and you have clips like this on social media. What is the truth?

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8980407)

She's rich though. Money does stuff.

Also most of these millionaires and billionaires don't pay their fair share of tax, so they have plenty to share during a time it'll get them good publicity SeemsGood

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Originally Posted by bcedhk (Post 8980406)

https://twitter.com/DrTedros/status/1244008665251708929

Bruh

I didn't know gaga was also a Virologist

Read up on the WHO. Accused of corruption, sexual harassment among the ranks, racism, it's questionable relations with China and list goes on.

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Originally Posted by Harvey Specter (Post 8980409)

You have mass hysteria created by the media and you have clips like this on social media. What is the truth?

https://twitter.com/toddstarnes/stat...48364695298050
https://twitter.com/Capt_BOOM/status...71585645531138

If you look through their other tweets, they’re religious conspiracy theorists.

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8980415)

If you look through their other tweets, they’re religious conspiracy theorists.

Just the way the guy talks in the first video I was like :heckno:

Well i think the tents are probably in anticipation of patients.
Not much strange about that as many countries are setting up makeshift quarantine sites.

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8980417)

Well i think the tents are probably in anticipation of patients.
Not much strange about that as many countries are setting up makeshift quarantine sites.

yup they're getting ready for when the cases spike they will be ready for patients instead of having nowhere to place affected victims...its blasted all over the news

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Originally Posted by bcedhk (Post 8980406)

https://twitter.com/DrTedros/status/1244008665251708929

Bruh

I didn't know gaga was also a Virologist

Reminds me of....

Pretty insightful video:

tldw (from the top comment):

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Loved this interview and typed up some notes for those interested:

Who is most at risk?
- Highest death rate is in the elderly.
- 0.1% for 30 and 40 year olds

Can you get the flu again?
- Usually people who get the flu, the bodies develop antibodies and they recover in 2 weeks and don't get sick again.
- For Covid, people who have been discharged are getting the virus again .

How do you get infected?
- 3 ways to get infected:
1. Droplet Transfer: Directly being coughed or sneezed on by someone and being with their droplets.
2. Indirect Transfer: When patient coughs or sneezes and the droplets land on keyboards/tables/doorknobs. Virus can survive up to 3-4 days on surfaces like tables/door knobs, and 1 day for fabric/clothes.
3. Direct Transfer: When someone coughs/sneezes on hands and you shake their hands and subsequently touch your face/mouth/eyes etc...

Can you get it just by breathing?
- Yes, Aerosol Transmission possible in certain cases (i.e. Airborne transmissions)
- Airborne transmission likely in densely packed areas. But, in outdoor environments and not in closed spaces, not as likely through airborne transmission.

What are the symptoms of the virus?
- Loss in appetite, mild aches, fevers, sore throat, difficulty breathing.
- 30% of those who get the virus can't smell or taste anything
- Lose your sense of smell or taste

Can you get infected if it's on skin?
- You get infected by virus going through eyes/mouth/nose because there are mucous membranes in those areas.
- However, you can't get the virus from it just being on your skin. That's why it's important to wash your hands.

How effective is wearing mask?
- Very effective.
- In the west, not many people wear masks which is odd. The US Surgeon General and WHO recommend people not to wear masks, but he disagrees. Wearing mask is extremely effective.
- They probably said that so medical ppl can have more masks and normal people stop hoarding.
- If everyone wears masks, there will be less infections in general. WHO encourages normal people not to wear masks. But in Asia, because of cultural differences, they encourage ppl to wear masks.
- As a result, US/Europe spreading much faster than Asia did.

If it gets warmer, will the virus go away?
- Hard to predict, but won't go away quickly.
- Several scenarios:
- 1st Scenario: Covid ends like SARS did when it got warmer. SARS started in Nov 2002 and ended July 2003. But, back then people travelled less and infection was much smaller (mostly Asia + Canada only).
- For Covid, IF the whole world cooperates, it can end by July/August 2020 and it won't infect people again. However, only 10% probability this may come true.
- 2nd scenario: Covid stays in the summer and it'll spread to southern hemisphere when it's their winter and it'll come back again in our winter. Just like regular flu cycle.
- 3rd scenario: we develop a vaccine and put a end to it once and for all. But this scenario is difficult to achieve.
- Inventing a new vaccine usually takes 10-15 years and costs US$800M. Covid is not even 100 days old. Doctors have only had 2 months to understand their DNA structure so far.
- At fastest, IF everything goes smoothly (big if), and it'll take 18 months if all goes well to develop vaccine.
- However, even if US / China develops a vaccine, would they share the vaccine? Also, it'll be impossible for US with 320million population to vaccinate everyone. It becomes a choice of priority. Who gets the cure first?

What cures are being used now?
- Best thing we can do is "drug repurposing":
- Try to find a drug that's being used to treat another disease that can also be effective for Covid.
- Ex. A drug that is used for Malaria was found to be somewhat effective in treating Covid and used for critical patients right now.
- Another way:
- Take the blood of patients who recovered and use the antibodies in the blood to give to critical patients. So recovered people should donate their bloods if they can.

Any last comments?
- Currently, doctors working 2 months nonstop and very worn out. Their bodies are tired as a result so they can catch the virus from patients more easily. They are more vulnerable than normal people.

Last advice to people in teens, 20s, 30s?
- You may be fine, but if you spread to an elderly family member, it could be fatal.
- Wear mask. Socially distance. You need to protect yourself so you can protect your family.

:considered:

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Originally Posted by T4RAWR (Post 8980429)

Pretty insightful video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gAk7aX5hksU

tldw (from the top comment):

:considered:

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How do you get infected?
- 3 ways to get infected:
1. Droplet Transfer: Directly being coughed or sneezed on by someone and being with their droplets.
2. Indirect Transfer: When patient coughs or sneezes and the droplets land on keyboards/tables/doorknobs. Virus can survive up to 3-4 days on surfaces like tables/door knobs, and 1 day for fabric/clothes.
3. Direct Transfer: When someone coughs/sneezes on hands and you shake their hands and subsequently touch your face/mouth/eyes etc...

Can you get it just by breathing?
- Yes, Aerosol Transmission possible in certain cases (i.e. Airborne transmissions)
- Airborne transmission likely in densely packed areas. But, in outdoor environments and not in closed spaces, not as likely through airborne transmission.

Wouldn't that mean there are 4 ways to get infected?

So far the data I have seen (and this of course can change as it's still new) is that there are few specific scenarios were the virus can be aerosolized. The most common that we have to worry about being when patients are being intubated, for instace.

Not sure why he's saying it's airborne in "packed areas" after saying droplets are the problem...

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Last advice to people in teens, 20s, 30s?
- Wear mask. Socially distance. You need to protect yourself so you can protect your family.

Sophie Trudeau has recovered from C19.

How did JT not get it? :fulloffuck:

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Originally Posted by underscore (Post 8980432)

^ asymptomatic?

Edit: Oh wait you're right, he insisted on not being tested (though I think he was and they kept it hush hush)

Did he ever appear in public when making these addresses? Or were they all taped in a studio?

The two I saw he was just outside his house because he was isolating.

hes been standing in front of his house live lol

even went back inside to grab a jacket

whole mask thing is different here as we can maintain a certain distance between people's. 2m separation ain't happening in asia.

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8980431)

Sophie Trudeau has recovered from C19.

How did JT not get it? :fulloffuck:

WE NEED JA RULES AND MAKE SENSE TO ALL OF THIS!

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8980081)

they sold (NOT donated) medical supplies to Italy (and BTW so far 70% of their test kits yield worthless results)

60% fail rate in chinese testing kits used in Philippines.

Has anyone started a fast track med school yet? Seems like by about month 3 we are going to burn out inventory of Docs. I never did all that well in school, but I never had a fire under my butt either (i was an expert of knowing exactly what was required for my goal). Amazing what one can do with a little stress for drive! The specialties seems to be many years of learning how to use some expensive power tools. Welding, sewing, using long extensions in tight engine compartments with super long socket attachments, these all seem to come into play. I’ve been learning Greek as well, which covers most of the scientific names. Really I think I’d be a shoe in. Even have multiple sets of masks, goggles and tough vinyl gloves.

The thought of school though. Oh man. Also the thought of dealing with med school students. They are a different breed as well.

My wife’s best friend is completing her masters in plastics and they told her she needs to be working so her masters is on hold. Not sure what she’s doing at the hospital but I assume more general doctor related things or filling in on plastics so other doctors can be allocated to this.

I’ve heard the same thing. Time to work. Not learn. My best friend just imported his anesthesiologist brainiac children’s specialist GF from Europe. So we have at least some extra skills on our side.

US firms/citizens filing class action lawsuit against government of China

https://www3.nhk.or.jp/nhkworld/en/news/20200328_18/

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Saturday, March 28, 1:30

US citizens and businesses have filed class action suits against the Chinese government, seeking compensation for damages caused by the new coronavirus outbreak.

In the southern state of Florida, a group of individuals and businesses filed a lawsuit with a federal district court on March 12.

The plaintiffs argue that they are suffering huge damages resulting from the Chinese government's mishandling of the outbreak.

A spokesperson at a law firm representing the plaintiffs spoke to NHK on Friday.

The official says the suit was brought by about 1,000 plaintiffs from across the country including individuals infected with the virus and large companies severely affected by the outbreak. The official says the number of plaintiffs is expected to increase.

The official cited, as one of factors behind the lawsuit, remarks by a Chinese foreign ministry spokesperson who said on Twitter that the coronavirus could have been brought into China by the US military.

The official noted that China caused the virus to spread throughout the world by failing to contain it. He stressed that it's wrong for the country to blame the United States.

Referring to a Chinese doctor who spoke out about the virus on social media, the official said that the Chinese government silenced the doctor and kept the information to itself.

The law firm official says that the Chinese government is responsible, and that the plaintiffs are demanding that it pay for what it has done.

Similar class action lawsuits have been filed in the states of Texas and Nevada against the Chinese government as the coronavirus continues to spread across the country.

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8980443)

60% fail rate in chinese testing kits used in Philippines.

Better than the tests czech republic got from them.

https://www.praguemorning.cz/80-of-r...ina-are-wrong/

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Up to 80 percent of the 300,000 rapid coronavirus test kits ordered that the Czech Republic ordered from China are not working properly, according to regional hygienists who have tried the tests.