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SkinnyPupp 03-28-2020 07:46 AM


Mr.HappySilp 03-28-2020 07:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Badhobz (Post 8980230)
https://globalnews.ca/news/6741258/b...ast-modelling/

Looks like our curve is flattening a bit ? I don’t know if I believe it since so many people aren’t tested and are just staying home riding it out. My friend‘s friend felt sick, called 811 and they told him to stay at home. It’s been 2 weeks and now his wife is sick too and still no testing. young guy too.

https://www.aldergrovestar.com/news/...-for-covid-19/

Why the fuck are they keeping the mall open when most stores are closed ?!?

2 coworkers is like your friend. They got sick since last weekend develop symptoms like CoVID19 called 811 and was told to just stay home and self isolated and no test are needed. I share the same desk as they did. When I called 811 they simply said I should be fine. I would think as least testing them would be a good idea
For the time being I am avoiding going out and not meeting with my family till 14 days have pass.

68style 03-28-2020 07:57 AM

^
Just get your wife to tell you not to get the virus and you won't. Simple :)

68style 03-28-2020 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 8980289)

Fuck that's painful to watch what you know to be a very well educated man be too afraid to disobey his real masters.

So much corruption in the world now...

punkwax 03-28-2020 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8980290)
2 coworkers is like your friend. They got sick since last weekend develop symptoms like CoVID19 called 811 and was told to just stay home and self isolated and no test are needed. I share the same desk as they did. When I called 811 they simply said I should be fine. I would think as least testing them would be a good idea
For the time being I am avoiding going out and not meeting with my family till 14 days have pass.

They aren’t testing everyone with symptoms. Reasonably young, healthy people will be instructed to ride it out. The elderly and those with health conditions are being prioritized.

811 told me to take my son for a test at a primary urgent care centre immediately after his fever lasted 4 days and his cough was so bad it made him vomit. I’d been in Mexico 13 days prior at a global sales conference mingling with people from all over the world (aside from APAC.. and the Italians weren’t allowed off their plane and were sent back home PogChamp ) so 811 thought we should get tested. I called the PUCC as instructed and they said nope, Mexico isn’t high risk, call your doctor. So I called the doctor and was told the same thing I wrote in my first paragraph.

We’re a family of 5 and 4 of us have had either cold/flu symptoms since we’ve been quarantined the past 11 days. We might have COVID. Maybe we don’t. Seems we may never know.

MG1 03-28-2020 08:19 AM

You need to keep us posted. First RS case??? Dearly hope not............ I will pray for you. In a Buddhist way.

whitev70r 03-28-2020 08:31 AM

China donates thousands of medical masks, personal protective equipment to Canada (CTV News)

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/chin...nada-1.4872541

welfare 03-28-2020 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8980290)
2 coworkers is like your friend. They got sick since last weekend develop symptoms like CoVID19 called 811 and was told to just stay home and self isolated and no test are needed. I share the same desk as they did. When I called 811 they simply said I should be fine. I would think as least testing them would be a good idea
For the time being I am avoiding going out and not meeting with my family till 14 days have pass.

Canada simply doesn't have the resources to test those that are not in critical areas. I don't think we have enough for that even.
What little we have must be prioritized to the most vulnerable.
For the rest of us, all we can do is practice safe measures.

I don't think comparing case numbers at this point is accurate.
The death rate is the more accurate measure. And Canada's has actually been low.
Given our lack of resources, probably our one saving grace keeping our death rate down is our low population.

68style 03-28-2020 08:36 AM

They're sending us back less than we sent them hahaha

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...al-protective/

Mr.HappySilp 03-28-2020 08:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkwax (Post 8980297)
They aren’t testing everyone with symptoms. Reasonably young, healthy people will be instructed to ride it out. The elderly and those with health conditions are being prioritized.

811 told me to take my son for a test at a primary urgent care centre immediately after his fever lasted 4 days and his cough was so bad it made him vomit. I’d been in Mexico 13 days prior at a global sales conference mingling with people from all over the world (aside from APAC.. and the Italians weren’t allowed off their plane and were sent back home PogChamp ) so 811 thought we should get tested. I called the PUCC as instructed and they said nope, Mexico isn’t high risk, call your doctor. So I called the doctor and was told the same thing I wrote in my first paragraph.

We’re a family of 5 and 4 of us have had either cold/flu symptoms since we’ve been quarantined the past 11 days. We might have COVID. Maybe we don’t. Seems we may never know.

Sorry to hear that. Hope you will be ok. I am so far feeling ok. I did have a cold last week and I was so scare to cough in public. Is so hard to pin point who caught the virus and who haven't if you don't test people. Just like China the number of reported case in Canada isn't exactly accurate.

68style 03-28-2020 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8980301)
Given our lack of resources, probably our one saving grace keeping our death rate down is our low population.

The size of our country and low population bigtime... we're not on top of each other 24/7 like most other places. I honestly don't know how HK survived this having spent time there, I felt enraged after like 3 days that someone is ALWAYS touching you there.

punkwax 03-28-2020 08:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8980299)
You need to keep us posted. First RS case??? Dearly hope not............ I will pray for you. In a Buddhist way.

Thanks 89blkcivic! I certainly hope not as well and will update if we ever learn more. SeemsGood

welfare 03-28-2020 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8980302)
They're sending us back less than we sent them hahaha

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...al-protective/

You know i actually thought about this with a little more clarity, and the truth is, it was posted on the government website promptly; nobody said anything about this donation at the time, so it's not really reasonable to complain about it now. If it was irresponsible at the time, someone should have said something about it then.
Not that you're complaining. But i was.

blkgsr 03-28-2020 09:18 AM

just found out my neighbor had tested positive and has since recovered

westopher 03-28-2020 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr.HappySilp (Post 8980303)
Just like China the number of reported case in Canada isn't exactly accurate.

It's not accurate anywhere.
If you feel like looking at numbers compared to other places. I'm sure you don't though because Trudeau bad, Canada bad, BC NDP bad.
Also, LOL at the source of the article for me to come across it, but numbers are numbers.
https://www.scmp.com/news/world/unit...sting-covid-19

whitev70r 03-28-2020 09:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8980302)
They're sending us back less than we sent them hahaha

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/poli...al-protective/

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8980307)
You know i actually thought about this with a little more clarity, and the truth is, it was posted on the government website promptly; nobody said anything about this donation at the time, so it's not really reasonable to complain about it now. If it was irresponsible at the time, someone should have said something about it then.
Not that you're complaining. But i was.

You do know that their population is slightly more than ours right? Maybe they need more? Some things in life are not going to be 1:1 when it comes to giving and helping. Don't worry, I know you're both kidding ...

I just posted it because there were a few posts earlier about this.

Mr.HappySilp 03-28-2020 09:43 AM

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Originally Posted by blkgsr (Post 8980311)
just found out my neighbor had tested positive and has since recovered

I am sure there are a few of us around who are infected but doesn't know. Maybe we already recovered. .

whitev70r 03-28-2020 09:47 AM

One thing I hope environmentalists are doing is collecting some real good data. No way you can get such info if it wasn't because of this pandemic - you could get a pretty good idea of how much emissions and pollution air travel, cruises, cars, and manufacturing companies expel. How else are you going to get such dramatic results of before and after?

Coronavirus: Air pollution and CO2 fall rapidly as virus spreads

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-51944780

welfare 03-28-2020 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitev70r (Post 8980313)
You do know that their population is slightly more than ours right? Maybe they need more? Some things in life are not going to be 1:1 when it comes to giving and helping. Don't worry, I know you're both kidding ...

I just posted it because there were a few posts earlier about this.

Not only that, but the majority of countries rely/relied heavily on China for their medical supplies.
So of course, the demand is extremely high atm.

I think the lesson here is not to rely so heavily on a foreign country for these critical supplies and start manufacturing goods domestically. And not just medical equipment.

welfare 03-28-2020 10:11 AM

The US fda has fast tracked a covid test which can now produce results within 5 minutes.
Expected production to be 5 million tests per month.

https://globalnews.ca/news/6745497/c...us-quick-test/

Quote:

Abbott Laboratories said on Friday it won U.S. marketing approval for a diagnostic test for the coronavirus that can deliver results to patients within minutes and be used in physicians offices and urgent care clinics, as well as hospitals.

The United States now has more cases of the coronavirus than any other country, and hospitals have struggled to meet the demand to test thousands of people for the often-deadly virus.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration granted the approval under its Emergency Use Authorization.

westopher 03-28-2020 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by welfare (Post 8980317)
I think the lesson here is not to rely so heavily on a foreign country for these critical supplies and start manufacturing goods domestically. And not just medical equipment.

This is definitely important. I'd bet this will set back globalization of the economy well over a decade when all of this is over.
People should have realized a LONG fucking time ago the benefits to keeping their spending in their own communities and countries as much as reasonably possible.

whitev70r 03-28-2020 10:32 AM

I'm no economist but ... I think government should help individuals with EI, temporary housing to prevent evictions, etc. BUT we shouldn't help businesses with rent, lost business/income, or subsidy. If they go belly up, so be it.

In a free market, companies that can adapt and manufacture things that are needed at this time will survive. Restaurants, gyms, coffee shops that go out of businesses as a result of this will result in lots of retail space for leases when all this settles. Lease rates will have to adjust with higher vacancy, namely go down, entrepeneurs will take advantage of opportunity and start new businesses. In short, those who argue for free market and capitalism can't argue for socialism or communism now. In other words, you can't be a free market capitalist in good economic times and communism/socialism in bad times.

Agree ... disagree?

westopher 03-28-2020 10:38 AM

Canada has never claimed to be a free market capitalist economy. Why would we decide to do it when it would hurt us the most?
That would accomplish the worst possible scenario of big bankrolled companies coming in to take over small businesses at a discounted price.

whitev70r 03-28-2020 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by westopher (Post 8980329)
Canada has never claimed to be a free market capitalist economy. Why would we decide to do it when it would hurt us the most?
.

No? Is Canada socialist or a hybrid?

What about the US ... they are definitely free market and pumping like $2T into market. Isn't that a variation of controlled market? Isn't this what they shit on China for to prop up their economy?

westopher 03-28-2020 11:11 AM

America has always claimed to be a free market economy, but it's always relied on socialism for corporations. It manages to take all the worst aspects of every economic platform. Social support for companies while limiting support for people.
Absolutely it's what they shit on other nations for, but hypocrisy and bullshit from "the most important country in the world" is nothing new.
Canada is definitely a hybrid. I honestly couldn't tell you a country that truly is a fully capitalist economy.


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