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lol at justifying carrying an AR-15 to a protest cause "it's the best defensive weapon in the world"...
If there were a dozen of protestors with guns, his AR-15 won't do shit to save his life. He might as well be carrying a bazooka and carry a suicide vest so people would avoid touching him.
bahaha... I love it when it's against your POV, you'd try all sort of thing to discredit this guy. And when it's for your cause, anything goes.
I didn't finish the video, but in the 5min I was in, the guy was simply talking from a legal technicality point of view... like the laws WI has about carrying the gun in this case and it wasn't in any way biased. Ok... maybe a lefty would be adding "why the fuck is this kid carrying a gun"... kinda thing. but up to 5min, he was fine.
bahaha... I love it when it's against your POV, you'd try all sort of thing to discredit this guy. And when it's for your cause, anything goes.
I didn't finish the video, but in the 5min I was in, the guy was simply talking from a legal technicality point of view... like the laws WI has about carrying the gun in this case and it wasn't in any way biased. Ok... maybe a lefty would be adding "why the fuck is this kid carrying a gun"... kinda thing. but up to 5min, he was fine.
In what state is this guy a licensed and practicing lawyer?
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How is Manic! automatically discrediting the guy? He literally works for the NRA, his show is on NRA.TV
I've never not seen welfare post some esoteric right-wing news source when attempting to support his bizarre arguments.
Kyle had no reason to be there, it is not his job to protect property. The people he shot, is there any evidence to support they were destroying property? So are we saying now that property supersedes a human life? That's where we're at now, huh?
You say you support the police, if so, you should be against the actions of someone like Kyle, if anything he's putting the police in a more dangerous position by being there. He's creating an environment to incite further violence, I guarantee you more protesters will be showing up with pieces. Had Kyle not shown up to get into a conflict, no one would've died that night, that's a plain fact. You really think that kid gives a shit about a damn building, or a car? He's looking to play COD IRL.
If Kyle was a black man walking up the street with an AR shooting people, do you really think the police would let him walk by and go home? Do you truly believe that?
Tell you what, if you support that direction we're going here, vigilante law, essentially. Next time you're having a dispute with your wife or girlfriend, I'll come knocking with my shotgun, because who knows, maybe you might assault her, I won't call 911, I'll handle it myself. The next time you see someone stealing a bike on the street, or shoplifting from a store, you might as well smoke them. That's the society you're advocating for, you don't see the slippery slope that creates?
Your comment just highlights your lack of a relevant argument.
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Your comment just highlights your lack of a relevant argument.
The guy is biased because he is a pro 2a youtuber. If he would have said kyle was in the wrong he would lose a bunch of viewers and money. As a youtuber his main goal is to make money. As a lawyer, his job is to defend his side right or wrong.
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lol at justifying carrying an AR-15 to a protest cause "it's the best defensive weapon in the world"...
If there were a dozen of protestors with guns, his AR-15 won't do shit to save his life. He might as well be carrying a bazooka and carry a suicide vest so people would avoid touching him.
well. to be fair he did defend himself against a guy with a handgun.
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Kyle had no reason to be there, it is not his job to protect property. The people he shot, is there any evidence to support they were destroying property? So are we saying now that property supersedes a human life? That's where we're at now, huh?
You can't say he had no reason to be there, just that you disagree with his reasons being there, his reason was to protect businesses and any people who were in urgent need, whatever, that's their reason (it's crazy to me, but 'merican), everyone should've been at home imho, especially after curfew, but that's not how things played out.
The blm protesters shouldn't have been there (after curfew, I can understand the point of ignoring the curfew, but still)
The anti violence protesters(?) shouldn't have been there
Most of all, no one should have weapons (but it's America)
No one should've been attacking anybody, and once you do attack anyone, you have to expect the possibility of dying/killing (because a simple knock to someone's head can cause death) and someone defending themselves can just as easily kill you too. This is especially true in a country where guns are legal
This kid wasn't attacking anyone, he was attacked, and he didn't even immediately shoot, he ran! He ran! Shooting was his last resort, and he didn't even flee after that, he called it in! He only ran again cuz he was being chased once more, and he only fired again because he was being beat, and one guy pulled a gun on him.
Regardless of your stance on the broader issues at hand, we need to be able to look at this situation free of biases (even Canadian biases)
Is there a case against him? Yeah of course, he shouldn't have been there (curfew), he shouldn't have a weapon (given his age) and as a result ppl are dead and injured
Is there a case for him? Yeah of course, he was acting in self defense, these are reasons why he'll have his day in court
It's a horrible situation, America is fukin cesspool of insanity, protests are no place for kids, weapons, or violence towards others, I've got no problem with destruction of public property (but not private), I'm shocked at how many ppl bring their children thinking it'd be a good learning experience (ppl I know too)
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Is that actually him? I can't tell, the kid in the protest video looks like he may have down syndrome, the kid in the school fight looks less down syndromey
I don't think that's Kyle in the video Manic! posted, to be honest.
Trust me, we'll get a background on this kid, Stylin. As I said previously, I don't think he was there to "protect" property. I believe he was there to get himself into conflict, that shows to me direct intent. I'm sure there will be a forensic review of his cell phone messages, and his online presence prior to going down there for a further picture of what his intentions were.
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I don't think that's Kyle in the video Manic! posted, to be honest.
Trust me, we'll get a background on this kid, Stylin. As I said previously, I don't think he was there to "protect" property. I believe he was there to get himself into conflict, that shows to me direct intent. I'm sure there will be a forensic review of his cell phone messages, and his online presence prior to going down there for a further picture of what his intentions were.
Furthermore, a reporter in Wisconsin said in a tweet that the fight occurred on July 1 and that the recorders of the video confirmed to him “that the person in the red-white-and-blue trunks is Rittenhouse.”
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In the video of the Portland shooting you can hear "we got one right here" as the shooter walks up to the victim and says "right here?" before firing two rounds at him.
Anybody drawing a parallel to the deaths in Kenosha and this obvious murder is seriously sick and delusional.
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In the video of the Portland shooting you can hear "we got one right here" as the shooter walks up to the victim and says "right here?" before firing two rounds at him.
Anybody drawing a parallel to the deaths in Kenosha and this obvious murder is seriously sick and delusional.
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