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Simple... my idea is that regardless of who wins the election. BLM would become irrelevant after US election because it's nothing but a political tool.
Neither Dems nor Reps would pass any law to address the BLM movement after the election.
So, if by this time next year, 08/24/2021, no law addressing the BLM becomes law, I win. If there is, I lose.
$100 to a charity of choice under the other's name.
Or if you want to make it a year after the election, works for me too.
Well considering BLM was formed in 2013, back when a Democrat (Obama) was president, I'll take that bet.
BLM will not go away by next year, count me in on that 100%. Like I said, I don't think you understand BLM's goal and agenda, this isn't a Federal movement, the movement is primarily centered around local and state elections.
And Cannon Hinnant, a 5 year old boy, was killed simply on the basis of him riding his bike in a black mans yard.
Shot point blank execution style in front of his sisters.
I know it wasn't 75 years ago or anything. Just two weeks. But maybe in three quarters of a century people will use his death as an excuse to loot, riot, burn, and commit violence.
Continue to parrot the garbage you watch on Fox News, you're a troll and one day I'll meet you and we can chat face to face.
"The shooting death of a 5-year-old North Carolina boy in his front yard on August 9 has since erupted into a political argument over how the media covers race and crime, with conservative commentators on Fox News and other outlets criticizing the media for ignoring the fact that the boy was white and the suspect Black, though many national news outlets did in fact cover the killing, which both police and the boy's parents say they don’t believe was racially motivated."
Your arguments are so simple and rudimentary. You take one video, or one story, and then decide to extrapolate that example as the entire basis, your analysis never holds weight.
I'm glad there's a large number of white folks that aren't as closed minded to the legacy of history as you are.
George Floyd's death wasn't racially motivated either. That didn't stop the media from making race the central organizing feature.
Yet they couldn't disprove race as a factor in Hinnants death soon enough.
Minimized and negated when it happens to a white person. exploited and emphasized when it's the other way around.
I don't think you could create a better environment for hostility and division.
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There are countless examples of white supremacists involved in police departments throughout the country. There are a myriad of statistics that support the simple fact of this disproportional treatment within the legal system of blacks as opposed to whites. How much evidence do you require in order to understand this?
As Manic! said, I thought you guys support Castle Law? The shooting you're referencing wasn't done by a police officer or a person of authority, so how does that have any relation to the subject of this thread? You continue to cherry pick to suit your silly little arguments, you are clearly being incredulous, as usual.
Well considering BLM was formed in 2013, back when a Democrat (Obama) was president, I'll take that bet.
BLM will not go away by next year, count me in on that 100%. Like I said, I don't think you understand BLM's goal and agenda, this isn't a Federal movement, the movement is primarily centered around local and state elections.
Bet accepted, mark that down.
I'm saying that BLM doesn't CARE about black people.
All it's doing is about triggering hate so that they can manipulate the black votes.
They don't push for reforms. They don't push for bills/laws that helps the black community.
You want to take a bet, and let's set it.
Same terms that I posted for Manic.
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Simple... my idea is that regardless of who wins the election. BLM would become irrelevant after US election because it's nothing but a political tool.
Neither Dems nor Reps would pass any law to address the BLM movement after the election.
So, if by this time next year, 08/24/2021, no law addressing the BLM becomes law, I win. If there is, I lose.
$100 to a charity of choice under the other's name.
Or if you want to make it a year after the election, works for me too.
It's not meant to inflict any financial pain or anything. That's why I set it at $100 for charity. Just so that you guys can see what EXACTLY BLM is doing for the black community.
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Originally Posted by Manic!
you said BLM will die down after the election. I bet you are wrong and will continue for years. Many people will still protest after the election no matter who is president. I get you BLM will still be relevant and will still be protesting after the election.
I have already one money from honda and given welfare a 6-month ban. But what good did that do he still kept posting fails. Let's do something different.
I didn't say that it will die down. I said it'd become irrelevant as neither Dems nor Reps would give a fuck about BLM after the election. You can propose something more objective, I'm all ears. And really... it's only $100. A fill-up on your R8 is more than that. Can we stop being so anal about the terms? What's the point of setting up something with a higher probability of winning?
In fact, the odds are already in your favor as polls showing Biden's lead. And I'm sure if Biden and Dems cares enough about BLM, it'd be one of the first bills Dems push through after the election.
I'm saying that BLM doesn't CARE about black people.
All it's doing is about triggering hate so that they can manipulate the black votes.
They don't push for reforms. They don't push for bills/laws that helps the black community.
You want to take a bet, and let's set it.
Same terms that I posted for Manic.
It's not meant to inflict any financial pain or anything. That's why I set it at $100 for charity. Just so that you guys can see what EXACTLY BLM is doing for the black community.
I didn't say that it will die down. I said it'd become irrelevant as neither Dems nor Reps would give a fuck about BLM after the election. You can propose something more objective, I'm all ears. And really... it's only $100. A fill-up on your R8 is more than that. Can we stop being so anal about the terms? What's the point of setting up something with a higher probability of winning?
In fact, the odds are already in your favor as polls showing Biden's lead. And I'm sure if Biden and Dems cares enough about BLM, it'd be one of the first bills Dems push through after the election.
I don't care about the money. $100 means nothing for me or probable you. A number of laws have already changed at different levels of government. trump has even done some criminal justice reform. This movement will not die down and changes will happen.
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I don't care about the money. $100 means nothing for me or probable you. A number of laws have already changed at different levels of government. trump has even done some criminal justice reform. This movement will not die down and changes will happen.
When? In another 4yrs just before the next election?
BLM started in 2013. As long as piece of shit racists exist it's not going to end.
So... 2013... when Obama was still in power. Enlight me what had Obama, its administration and the Dems do about it?
I will tell you what they did: acknowledgment. Saying that... oh yeah, it's a real problem... blah blah blah... and what was done? Nothing. Obama & Co just threw money at them suggesting "helping those in need in America", when it's nothing but to keep those people's mouth shut.
What has Trump and the Reps done during this administration?
Here... this is a note written in 2019 before the whole craze of BLM and Covid started.
You can ignore everything and just focus on one thing "opportunity zone". I know this first hand because I invest in commercial RE in US, so I can tell you with confidence that it makes a huge difference.
Areas that were once a dump that didn't make sense to invest in, now makes a strong argument for investment.
This includes MANY... I repeat... MANY black-dominating area/communities. You can look it up. I'm not making this up.
This brought works, area gentrification, generate economic activities... to these black people living in those areas.
That's how you lift people out of poverty... not keep throwing spare change money at them and call them "benefits", force company to hire black people based on "equality". That's feeling pitty for them, not trying to help.
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So many here in this thread, as well as in the Trump thread are blaming everything on Trump and the Reps. I get it. Trump is fucking dumb when it comes to deal with some serious issues, like how to contain Covid. But give credit when it's due.
People are furious... so they are looking someone or something to blame. They feel that their misery in life, be it work, school... everything is because the bad decision of someone else.
Before you frame it all on the politics, Trumps... etc. Take an objective view on what everyone have actually done and decide who's really to blame.
If it wasn't for China's CCP fucked up and coverup, would the Covid be less serious now?
If it wasn't for WHO's continuos attempt to play down this virus, would we have still have a normal life?
Just prior the Covid19, we had record low unemployment in both US and Canada... and no one said anything about it. They just focused on the dumb stuff Trump did. And suddenly, everyone is in a shithole.
Oh, and just so happen everyone is blaming Trump, let's do that too.
Just like anything bad happening in Canada it's on JT. And yet somehow when JT does something... anything right, no one seem to care.
We live in an era where information is easily obtainable, but at the same time, too many fighting for attention. Thus, too often the narrative or the headline is more important than the truth itself.
So... 2013... when Obama was still in power. Enlight me what had Obama, its administration and the Dems do about it?
I will tell you what they did: acknowledgment. Saying that... oh yeah, it's a real problem... blah blah blah... and what was done? Nothing. Obama & Co just threw money at them suggesting "helping those in need in America", when it's nothing but to keep those people's mouth shut.
What has Trump and the Reps done during this administration?
Here... this is a note written in 2019 before the whole craze of BLM and Covid started.
You can ignore everything and just focus on one thing "opportunity zone". I know this first hand because I invest in commercial RE in US, so I can tell you with confidence that it makes a huge difference.
Areas that were once a dump that didn't make sense to invest in, now makes a strong argument for investment.
This includes MANY... I repeat... MANY black-dominating area/communities. You can look it up. I'm not making this up.
This brought works, area gentrification, generate economic activities... to these black people living in those areas.
That's how you lift people out of poverty... not keep throwing spare change money at them and call them "benefits", force company to hire black people based on "equality". That's feeling pitty for them, not trying to help.
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Gentirification is usually follow by displacement of the original inhabitant. Since you are an investor in US real estate (I assume you are just an investor and not someone that actually resides in the neighborhood). How do you know that the original inhabitant actually benefits? How many of those poor black american living in the area being gentrify are actual home owner?
Who is truly benefiting from a raising property prices in an ex slum? The slumlord or the unfornately renter that have no choice but to live in the ghetto to begin with, precisely due to its low rent price? Where do those people go now that they can no longer afford rent in their previous resident?
This is speaking from a position of priviledge where one already own asset. AKA you as the real estate investor. Any development is great, it improves the ares, raise the economy. All things you can tangibly measure with stats and numbers. What you can't measure is the plight of those that doesn't get records on any official numbers. You know the truly improvish and an under priviledge are doesn't show up in official statistic, Its too poor to even file a tax report and hence does not show in official data and a measurable unit.
One of the big criticism of Trump is his reliance on cherry picking statistic to support his view. For some one with an economic background, this isn't hard to do. What is harder and require empathical thinking is gauging what these numbers have missed.
Gentrification is a neat magic trick. But it isn't a inclusive solution, more akin to sweeping all the dust under the couch and calling it gone instead of vaccuming it up.
-saw this Facebook post on group The original funny Trump memes” about the 17 year old teen who shot people during the Wisconsin BLM protests.
The evil look in that kid’s eyes. Illinois State resident goes to Wisconsin to shoot African Americans.
Somebody posted the Kid’s address on that Facebook post too.
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Looks like little Kyle also participated in a program for youth interested in joing law enforcement.
I'm so tired of the gas lighting. This is the type of people who are joining law enforcement. White, angry, suburban kids that want to treat the world like the Call of Duty game they play on a daily basis. People who think it makes sense to shoot indiscriminately into a group of protesters. Notice how young Kyle was "arrested" rather than being shot in the back or head?
Looks like little Kyle also participated in a program for youth interested in joing law enforcement.
I'm so tired of the gas lighting. This is the type of people who are joining law enforcement. White, angry, suburban kids that want to treat the world like the Call of Duty game they play on a daily basis. People who think it makes sense to shoot indiscriminately into a group of protesters. Notice how young Kyle was "arrested" rather than being shot in the back or head?
Fascinating how that works.
He was swarmed then chased by a mob. Looks like he shot in self defense.
The cops didn't shoot him because he calmly walked up to them with his gun down and hands in the air.
Who in their right mind chases a guy with an ar, wielding skateboards, and doesn't expect to get shot?
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
He was swarmed then chased by a mob. Looks like he shot in self defense.
The cops didn't shoot him because he calmly walked up to them with his gun down and hands in the air.
Who in their right mind chases a guy with an ar, wielding skateboards, and doesn't expect to get shot?
He was swarmed then chased by a mob. Looks like he shot in self defense.
The cops didn't shoot him because he calmly walked up to them with his gun down and hands in the air.
Who in their right mind chases a guy with an ar, wielding skateboards, and doesn't expect to get shot?
He was being chased because he shot someone first. What the fk is a 17-year-old doing on the street with an assault rifle at night?
From the Canadian lens... we would think WTF ...
Depending on the state (eg// Idaho, Kansas ..26 states)... "Nothing is wrong... he is entitled to exercise this rights in the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution to carry, even without a permit and / or in a holster."
It's how you/me/citizens see things from diff angle. No diff than people in Singapore with mind blown when they come over seeing *ahem me / us / people openly smoking weed; DTES injection sites..
I did find it hilarious when he yelled "medicccccc, I need a medic" it's not Call of Duty...
Call 911 ... ambulanceeeeee
Depending on the state (eg// Idaho, Kansas ..26 states)... "Nothing is wrong... he is entitled to exercise this rights in the Second Amendment of the United States Constitution to carry, even without a permit and / or in a holster."
It's how you/me/citizens see things from diff angle. No diff than people in Singapore with mind blown when they come over seeing *ahem me / us / people openly smoking weed; DTES injection sites..
I did find it hilarious when he yelled "medicccccc, I need a medic" it's not Call of Duty...
Call 911 ... ambulanceeeeee
1. There where police and medics already there.
2. If the kid was black do you think the police would just let him walk around with a gun? the cops even gave him a bottle of water before the shooting.
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17-year old drives from out of state with an AR-15 to shoot unarmed protesters? How is this any different from the multitude of school shooters over the years? Jesus Christ the US is in full parody mode now.
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