[TjAlmeida]

fixed.

- goalie graveyard
- steaming pile of shit management
- pressure cooker Canadian environment
- not exactly an up and coming team
- we're not in the USA (he's American)


coaching I'd actually argue is one benefit Vancouver has since Rollie Melanson has been doing a pretty solid job... other than that, not sure why he'd want to come

I think in one of those pre game sportsnet shin digs they said melanson might not be returning.. I have no proof or sauce but I'm pretty sure I heard that while watching a past game. Could be just rumblings out of the media though.

Also no point on blowing the demko delay out of the water. Vancouver you think would be a good destination, probably one of the best cities to live in the NHL, also by the time demko is in his prime canucks will have had a couple years of gathering some high draft choices that will hopefully pan out.

[jerche]

1-0 CBJ!

[murd0c]

3-1 cbj

[Jmac]

prolly watched the last few months lol

he's a highly touted goalie prospect...the demand (and bonuses) will be pretty high if he goes to Free Agency
He'll get paid the same regardless of where he signs.

[Sentinel]

4-1 cbj!!

[Jmac]

A CBJ win tonight means any type of loss against Edmonton clinches 28th place.

[murd0c]

I think it's safe to say that CBJ won this... We better fucken lose tomorrow

[6o4__boi]

He'll get paid the same regardless of where he signs.

But they can still offer performance bonuses right? Or is that gone?
Maybe I'm losing my memory a little, that's still a thing right?

[Mike Oxbig]

Canucks win tmr fans will turn against the franchise all summer

Canucks lose tmr fans will be happy and hopeful for this franchise again

what will the canucks do?

[Jmac]

But they can still offer performance bonuses right? Or is that gone?
Maybe I'm losing my memory a little, that's still a thing right?
Player's on an ELC are entitled to negotiate a signing bonus up to 10% of their annual salary, games played bonuses, Exhibit 5 Type A performance bonuses (limited), and Exhibit Type B performance bonuses.

[SumAznGuy]

I think in one of those pre game sportsnet shin digs they said melanson might not be returning.. I have no proof or sauce but I'm pretty sure I heard that while watching a past game. Could be just rumblings out of the media though.

This was mentioned quite a few times on TSN1040 and they even had someone from the Canucks on the radio and they asked them that question.
It sounded like Rolie is choosing not to stay, but no one knows why.
Could be family reasons.

[Jmac]

On 1040 several weeks ago, they speculated a frosty relationship with Miller may be one of the reasons. At this point, only management and Rolie know for certain.

The speculation is that Dan Cloutier will be promoted from Utica and/or Alex Auld will be hired if Melanson doesn't come back.

[dbaz]

https://twitter.com/jaredmccann19/status/718580724392013824

Obviously Demko is hurt that McCann has wished Boeser good luck, but had no tweet for him. Ending their bromance, and any love, along with intentions of signing he had with the Canucks

[murd0c]

well since Demo didn't make it to the national championship game why would McCann wish him luck for something he didn't make?

[spoon.ek9]

I think that was sarcasm.

[Mike Oxbig]

Still no prospect talks in this thread yet your all excited about tanking

:badpokerface:

[XplicitLuder]

hey murd0c

http://new1.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/Thats+lewis+c+k+a+comedian+and+this+was+a+_895e719 6765d413f681ad37aaeb3c270.jpg

hehe

[highfive]

Go jackets and go oilers tonight!

I'd be pretty damn happy with a second overall pick.

http://twitter.com/jhiitela/status/718810403254484992

Or I'd be pretty happy with laine

[Mike Oxbig]

Matthews is a complete player
Laine will score more pts than Matthews

hfboards oilers fan say they prefer to pick Laine over Matthews

[Nabatron]

oilers fans should stfu! they dont deserve a top pick and should just get relegated to the echl...

[Mike Oxbig]

https://youtu.be/ZWziMoajHwI

[fsy82]

damn that wrist shots reminds of Sakic and Naslund in their prime

[murd0c]

The more clips I see on Laine the more I like him, he's also huge which is a big thing as well but it's also we need a pure scorer and he seems like one s far

[Mike Oxbig]

maybe thats why benning went out to get a finnish player to mentor one of the fins

but for shinkaruk? lol

[murd0c]

If we do get the second pick and Benning and some how make a blockbuster to get the 3rd pick as well that could make a lot of sense. At least the Fins can speak and understand English unlike most Russian players

[6o4__boi]

You're thinking of the wrong Granlund as a mentor :derp:

[highfive]

If we do get the second pick and Benning and some how make a blockbuster to get the 3rd pick as well that could make a lot of sense. At least the Fins can speak and understand English unlike most Russian players

That would be so fucking awesome but what do we have to acquire that pick?

Virtanen? Horvat? McCann?

[wc19]

That would be so fucking awesome but what do we have to acquire that pick?

Virtanen? Horvat? McCann?

I'd be willing to give up any of those 3 if we could pick up Puljujärvi since him and Laine have chemistry already.

[Mike Oxbig]

probably horvat + tanev to the oilers for that 3rd pick

Oilers fans on hfboards say they would skip pulujarvi and pick chychrun lol

[Devastator]

I think it would be crazy to trade a guy like Horvat, He is only gonna get bigger, stronger and he is a leader in my books (Jonathan Toews maturity). He is a Bergeron/Kesler type player. You need guys like him to be competitive and to win cups.

The last thing the Canucks need in Bo Horvat shutting us down and McDavid and company putting pucks into our net like peewee hockey...lol. I don't even want to imagine that.

[Ch28]

It'd take a huge overpayment to pry that consecutive pick from the other team. I'd love to be proved wrong, though.

[highfive]

I wouldn't trade horvat. He's the only guy who gives it all night after night. I'd trade virtanen and McCann before trading horvat.

[Jmac]

Scenarios that will result in us finishing 28th:

CBJ W or;
VAN SOW + CBJ OTL or;
VAN OTL or;
VAN L

[Ch28]

Hawks apparently sitting out Toews and Hjallmarsson today, so that'll help with a potential CBJ win

[Gh0stRider]

Wings clinch.... 25 consecutive seasons :)

[Jmac]

Philadelphia clinches playoff spot with win, eliminates Boston.

[highfive]

https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/status/718941468380028930

Hahaha just the idea of him getting a job back in the NHL. Lol haha

[highfive]

https://twitter.com/tsnbobmckenzie/status/718941468380028930

Hahaha just the idea of him getting a job back in the NHL. Lol haha

I thought April fools has past.

[Jmac]

Columbus getting crushed by Kane and Panarin. Down 3-0 after 1 :fuuuuu:

[tr0ubl3s0m3x]

late to the party but great news that Boston's out! A loss for the Bruins is a win for everyone! (2011 still hurts) haha
Everybody say goodbye to Claude Julien aka Bill Dauterive from King of the Hill. LOL PJSalt

https://40.media.tumblr.com/ac01b7e4c047c965398c00689f3d2fba/tumblr_n1kwacHbuu1qiu02lo1_500.jpg

[Mike Oxbig]

Watch Canucks hire him cause ownership still hurt about 2011 wants benning, bill dauterive, lucic

[Jmac]

CBJ tied it up!

[Mike Oxbig]

CBJ up!

[mj_39]

All tied up again

[murd0c]

Who's ahead if the Canucks and cbj tie in points?

[hypediss]

cbj i think cuz they got more wins

[LUUUUUUUU]

done CBJ got a point.

Canucks are 28th behind Oilers and Leafs

no way of passing CGY or CBJ now

[Amuse]

Canucks are 28th!

[Ch28]

TOP 3 PICK

#TEAMTANK :bowdown:

[murd0c]

lets hope they win tonight now!!

[murd0c]

CBJ even won in OT.. First time in ages I want the Canucks to win!!

[Bouncing Bettys]

Woo Leafs get 1st overall before the lottery because of ROWs. Canucks can go ahead and stomp those turds.

[murd0c]

Woo Leafs get 1st overall before the lottery because of ROWs. Canucks can go ahead and stomp those turds.

watch the Leafs don't even get a top 3 pick...... :chairdance:

[xxxrsxxx]

Wow cbj made the comeback down 3-0

[Ch28]

Woo Leafs get 1st overall before the lottery because of ROWs. Canucks can go ahead and stomp those turds.

Imagine if the Leafs pick 4th LOL

[highfive]

So the worst we can pick is 7th?

Matthews
Laine
Puvvulari (sp?)
Tkachuck
Nylander
Chuchuryn
Who's 7th?

Btw. Thank you john tortorella! 2nd round pick and push us higher in the lottery draft

[punkwax]

TOP 3 PICK

#TEAMTANK :bowdown:

A top 3 isn't guaranteed, is it?

[murd0c]

A top 3 isn't guaranteed, is it?

only the first round but we still draft in 3rd position the other rounds we have picks for

[Bouncing Bettys]

Picking 4th is fine by me. The lottery system is stupid but it is what it is. A 20% chance at winning is individually better than nothing so I'll take it.

[6o4__boi]

Brock Boeser with 4 pts...1G 3A right now for NoDak in the NCAA championship.


Goddamn it Jim, get this guy signed the moment his season is over!

[Ch28]

So the worst we can pick is 7th?

Matthews
Laine
Puvvulari (sp?)
Tkachuck
Nylander
Chuchuryn
Who's 7th?

Btw. Thank you john tortorella! 2nd round pick and push us higher in the lottery draft

Pierre-Luc Dubois is turning out to be the consensus #4 pick at this point. A big portion of his points are primary points, which is the opposite for Tkachuck, and he's been playing great this year

You forgot Juolevi and Sergachev

[Jmac]

done CBJ got a point.

Canucks are 28th behind Oilers and Leafs

no way of passing CGY or CBJ now
At the time this was posted, this wasn't true. A VAN ROW combined with a CBJ OTL would've resulted in CBJ finishing 28th as VAN held the tie-breaker (tied in ROW, VAN won season series).

Fortunately, CBJ won, so we've locked in 28th place regardless of the result of our game.
TOP 3 PICK

#TEAMTANK :bowdown:
Top 6 pick

So the worst we can pick is 7th?

Matthews
Laine
Puvvulari (sp?)
Tkachuck
Nylander
Chuchuryn
Who's 7th?

Btw. Thank you john tortorella! 2nd round pick and push us higher in the lottery draft
The worst we can pick is 6th, but we have an 11.5% chance of 1st overall.

ISS Top 30 for April
Player Position Birth Shot Height Weight Team League
1 Matthews, Auston C 9/17/1997 L 6.01.5 210 Zurich ZSC SuiA
2 Puljujarvi, Jesse RW 5/7/1998 R 6.03 203 Karpat FinE
3 Laine, Patrik LW 4/19/1998 R 6.04 209 Tappara FinE
4 Nylander, Alexander RW 3/2/1998 R 6.00.5 179 Mississauga OHL
5 Dubois, Pierre-Luc LW 6/24/1998 L 6.02.5 202 Cape Breton QMJHL
6 Tkachuk, Matthew LW 12/11/1997 L 6.01.25 195 London OHL
7 Chychrun, Jakob LD 3/31/1998 L 6.02 215 Sarnia OHL
8 Sergachev, Mikhail RD 6/25/1998 L 6.02.5 206 Windsor OHL
9 McLeod, Michael C 2/3/1998 R 6.02.25 188 Mississauga OHL
10 Juolevi, Olli LD 5/5/1998 L 6.02.5 179 London OHL
11 Brown, Logan C 3/5/1998 L 6.06 222 Windsor OHL
12 Keller, Clayton C 7/29/1998 L 5.09.5 168 NTDP USA Under-18 USHL
13 Jones, Max LW 2/17/1998 L 6.03 205 London OHL
14 Rubtsov, German C 6/27/1998 L 6.02 178 Russia MHL 98 RusJr
15 Bean, Jake LD 6/9/1998 L 5.11.75 173 Calgary WHL
16 Bellows, Kieffer C 6/10/1998 L 6.00 196 NTDP USA Under-18 USHL
17 Kunin, Luke RW 12/4/1997 R 5.11.75 193 Wisconsin BigTen
18 Jost, Tyson RW 3/14/1998 L 5.11 191 Penticton BCHL
19 Gauthier, Julien RW 10/15/1997 R 6.03.5 225 Val d'Or QMJHL
20 Tufte, Riley LW 4/10/1998 L 6.04.75 205 Fargo USHL
21 McAvoy, Charles RD 12/21/1997 R 6.00.25 208 Boston University H.E.
22 Thompson, Tage C 10/30/1997 R 6.05 185 Connecticut H.E.
23 Bastian, Nathan C 12/6/1997 R 6.03.75 208 Mississauga OHL
24 Howden, Brett LW 3/29/1998 L 6.02.25 193 Moose Jaw WHL
25 Debrincat, Alexander C 12/18/1997 R 5.07 163 Erie OHL
26 Laberge, Pascal C 4/9/1998 R 6.01 175 Victoriaville QMJHL
27 Raddysh, Taylor RW 2/18/1998 R 6.01.75 203 Erie OHL
28 Katchouk, Boris LW 6/18/1998 L 6.01 181 S.S. Marie OHL
29 Abramov, Vitalii LW 5/8/1998 L 5.08.75 172 Gatineau QMJHL
30 Pu, Cliff RW 6/3/1998 R 6.01.5 192 London OHL
Published April 06 2016

[Jmac]

Utica clinched a playoff spot today as well. If Boeser signs, he can join Utica :considered:

[6o4__boi]

If JB can somehow sign Caggiula, I'll forgive him for some of his fuck ups this year

Line with Caggiula and Boeser... :sweetjesus:

[pastarocket]

Ovie scores a hat trick against the Blues to reach the 50 goal mark in a season again.

The Great 8! :fuckyea:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/gotta-see-ovechkin-nets-hat-trick-reach-50-goal-mark/

[Jmac]

I'm not going to pretend I know anything about him, but his stats outside of this season are underwhelming.If JB can somehow sign Caggiula, I'll forgive him for some of his fuck ups this year

Line with Caggiula and Boeser... :sweetjesus:

[Jmac]

Oh, look, Bartkowski covering nothing. AAANNNDDD it's in ... There's a shocker ... :rukidding:

God I hope this is the last game I ever see Bartkowski in a Canucks jersey.

[pastarocket]

C'mon Oilers, score the next goal in regulation! Win this game! :gun:

[Jmac]

C'mon Oilers, score the next goal in regulation! Win this game! :gun:

We want the Canucks to win this game ... Already clinched our lottery spot.

[Jmac]

Jannik snipes bar down!

Victoria wins, up 2-0 in their series :woot:

[Armind]

LUCCCCCC :QQ:

[Ch28]

Way to ruin it Nuge

[Jmac]

Etem wins it! :fuckyea:

[HonestTea]

ETEM

[bobbinka]

well that was an exciting game to end the season

lol, bartkowski 3rd star.

[pastarocket]

-can't wait until the draft lottery on April 30th. :fuckyea:

Boston being eliminated from a wildcard spot was the icing on the cake today. :lawl:

[Jmac]

well that was an exciting game to end the season

lol, bartkowski 3rd star.
:fulloffuck:

[6o4__boi]

Not gonna lie...felt them feels when Burr scored that so goal with that bow celebration.

[OGCStrike]

this better be the last time we see bartkowski. sbisa is already terrible, but this guy is on a whole new level.

but at least he led the tank :badpokerface:

last but not least i would like to thank torts.
-got us a 2nd rounder in 2016/2017/2018
-got us 6th overall pick in Virtanen
-guarantee us a top 6 pick this year, by winning against chicago today :victory:

[Bouncing Bettys]

-can't wait until the draft lottery on April 30th. :fuckyea:

Boston being eliminated from a wildcard spot was the icing on the cake today. :lawl:

And with 1st overall in the 2016 draft, Boston selects...

[LUUUUUUUU]

At the time this was posted, this wasn't true. A VAN ROW combined with a CBJ OTL would've resulted in CBJ finishing 28th as VAN held the tie-breaker (tied in ROW, VAN won season series).

Fortunately, CBJ won, so we've locked in 28th place regardless of the result of our game.


VAN was behind by 2 ROWs prior to today's game no?
with the win tonight VAN are at 26 ROW and even if CBJ loss in OT tonight they would still be at 27 ROW, but they won so they're now at 28 ROW


Brock Boeser's ready, sign the guy now!!

[Mike Oxbig]

how stack will utica be if Boeser, Demko, Virtanen, McCann, gaunce, are in utica next season? Give us another season to tank :D

Is Pulujarvi allow to play in AHL? seems like most euros take the ahl route before playing in the nhl learning to play in smaller rinks

[Jmac]

VAN was behind by 2 ROWs prior to today's game no?
with the win tonight VAN are at 26 ROW and even if CBJ loss in OT tonight they would still be at 27 ROW, but they won so they're now at 28 ROW


Brock Boeser's ready, sign the guy now!!
Vancouver won in a shootout tonight.

[dbaz]

https://twitter.com/jaredmccann19/status/718926250736103424

All is safe. Demko will sign, the bromance continues

[Manic!]

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/red-wings-clinch-25th-straight-nfl-playoff-berth-232446103--nhl.html

http ://sports.yahoo.com/news/red-wings-clinch-25th-straight-nfl-playoff-berth-232446103--nhl.htm

https://viphotobooth.smugmug.com/250Prideaux/n-xqkmtS/i-BLJfKpm/0/X2/i-BLJfKpm-X2.jpg


Look at the Yahoo link.

[jeedee]

Top 6 pick


The worst we can pick is 6th, but we have an 11.5% chance of 1st overall.

ISS Top 30 for April
Player Position Birth Shot Height Weight Team League
1 Matthews, Auston C 9/17/1997 L 6.01.5 210 Zurich ZSC SuiA
2 Puljujarvi, Jesse RW 5/7/1998 R 6.03 203 Karpat FinE
3 Laine, Patrik LW 4/19/1998 R 6.04 209 Tappara FinE
4 Nylander, Alexander RW 3/2/1998 R 6.00.5 179 Mississauga OHL
5 Dubois, Pierre-Luc LW 6/24/1998 L 6.02.5 202 Cape Breton QMJHL
6 Tkachuk, Matthew LW 12/11/1997 L 6.01.25 195 London OHL
7 Chychrun, Jakob LD 3/31/1998 L 6.02 215 Sarnia OHL
8 Sergachev, Mikhail RD 6/25/1998 L 6.02.5 206 Windsor OHL
9 McLeod, Michael C 2/3/1998 R 6.02.25 188 Mississauga OHL
10 Juolevi, Olli LD 5/5/1998 L 6.02.5 179 London OHL
11 Brown, Logan C 3/5/1998 L 6.06 222 Windsor OHL
12 Keller, Clayton C 7/29/1998 L 5.09.5 168 NTDP USA Under-18 USHL
13 Jones, Max LW 2/17/1998 L 6.03 205 London OHL
14 Rubtsov, German C 6/27/1998 L 6.02 178 Russia MHL 98 RusJr
15 Bean, Jake LD 6/9/1998 L 5.11.75 173 Calgary WHL
16 Bellows, Kieffer C 6/10/1998 L 6.00 196 NTDP USA Under-18 USHL
17 Kunin, Luke RW 12/4/1997 R 5.11.75 193 Wisconsin BigTen
18 Jost, Tyson RW 3/14/1998 L 5.11 191 Penticton BCHL
19 Gauthier, Julien RW 10/15/1997 R 6.03.5 225 Val d'Or QMJHL
20 Tufte, Riley LW 4/10/1998 L 6.04.75 205 Fargo USHL
21 McAvoy, Charles RD 12/21/1997 R 6.00.25 208 Boston University H.E.
22 Thompson, Tage C 10/30/1997 R 6.05 185 Connecticut H.E.
23 Bastian, Nathan C 12/6/1997 R 6.03.75 208 Mississauga OHL
24 Howden, Brett LW 3/29/1998 L 6.02.25 193 Moose Jaw WHL
25 Debrincat, Alexander C 12/18/1997 R 5.07 163 Erie OHL
26 Laberge, Pascal C 4/9/1998 R 6.01 175 Victoriaville QMJHL
27 Raddysh, Taylor RW 2/18/1998 R 6.01.75 203 Erie OHL
28 Katchouk, Boris LW 6/18/1998 L 6.01 181 S.S. Marie OHL
29 Abramov, Vitalii LW 5/8/1998 L 5.08.75 172 Gatineau QMJHL
30 Pu, Cliff RW 6/3/1998 R 6.01.5 192 London OHL
Published April 06 2016


Lots of great players in the top 6. Getting a top 3 would be icing on the cake

[Mike Oxbig]

lol rank 30 hes got 5 goals 1 asisit in 7 games in the play offs

[quasi]

In before the Canucks pick 6th overall.

2016 NHL Draft Lottery rules and complete odds table - Pension Plan Puppets (http://www.pensionplanpuppets.com/2016/4/10/11396278/2016-nhl-draft-lottery-final-rules-and-odds-table)


For the first time, the NHL will run its draft lottery for the top three picks. But that's not the only thing you need to know for the 2016 NHL Draft lottery.

As a result of the new format, the team who finished 30th in the regular season can now drop to fourth overall, and will not be guaranteed a top-two pick. After the three lotteries are run, the 11 remaining teams will slot into pick 4-14 based on where they finished in the standings (least points picking 4th, with regulation and overtime wins for all tiebreakers).

Last season, the NHL Draft gave all 14 non-playoff teams a chance to pick first overall -- where only the worst five teams had previously been able to move up to the top selection -- for the first time.

In order to in theory prevent tanking for the first overall pick in two draft classes where Connor McDavid and Auston Matthews were available, the NHL has also reduced the odds of the 30th overall team winning the lottery from one-in-four in 2014 to one-in-five in 2015 and 2016. In 2015, the Edmonton Oilers had an 11.5 per cent chance of winning the lottery when they moved up to select McDavid.

Because the lottery is now being held for three different selections, each non-playoff team can pick anywhere from four to seven different spots, dependent on which teams ahead or behind them in the standings win each of the top three picks.

Under the new system, the seven lowest finishing teams actually have higher odds of moving back one spot in the draft than any of their chances of moving up or staying put.

The 2016 NHL Draft lottery will be held on April 30, 2016, in Toronto ahead of the first round of this year's draft on June 24 in Buffalo. After each draw, the remaining teams will readjust proportionally.

In order for a prospect to be eligible for the 2016 NHL Draft, he must be 18 years old on or before Sept. 15, 2016.

For the Toronto Maple Leafs, the 30th-place finish still means there's a nearly 50/50 chance they don't draft in the top three. In a class where a clear-cut top three has developed, and the players ranked from 4-8 can all be reasonably argued as the fourth best prospect in the class, those odds aren't nothing.

If all three of the lotteries are won by teams who finished 27th or higher then the Leafs in all likelihood won't have a chance at selecting any of Auston Matthews, Patrik Laine, and Jesse Puljujarvi.

Still, for the second straight season, the Leafs will have a top-four pick.

[6o4__boi]

Watch the fucking coilers get 1 overall again just cus
:rukidding:

[pastarocket]

Datsyuk confirms that he's returning to Russia after the playoffs.

-gonna miss seeing Magic Man's world class puck handling skills. :tears:

Datsyuk confirms he's returning to Russia next season - Sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/datsyuk-confirms-hes-returning-russia-next-season/)
Get a good look at Pavel Datsyuk during the upcoming Stanley Cup Playoffs, hockey fans. It’ll be the last chance you get to watch the “Magic Man” suit up in the NHL.

On Sunday, the Detroit Free Press confirmed what our own Elliotte Friedman reported on April 2: that the 2015-16 season would be Datsyuk’s final one in the NHL as he plans to return to Russia next season.

The 37-year-old Datsyuk had 16 goals and 33 assists in 66 games this season.

“I’m thinking I go home after this season,” Datsyuk told the Free Press. “I may not be done with hockey, but — it is hard to say — I think I am done playing in the NHL.”

He has one year remaining on his deal with a cap hit of $7.5 million. Because the deal was signed after he turned 35, the Red Wings will be stuck with the cap hit regardless of whether Datsyuk retires, or where he plays.

"I feel very bad about it," Datsyuk told the Free Press.

Drafted 171st overall by Detroit 1998, Datsyuk is one of the truly great players of his generation. In 949 career regular season NHL games (all spent with the Detroit Red Wings) the three-time Selke and four-time Lady Byng Trophy winner has 314 goals, 602 assists for 916 points. He won Stanley Cups with Detroit in 2002 and 2008.

https://youtu.be/jHxlzJPevxQ

[tonyzoomzoom]

My prediction is that the Leafs will land Stamkos and then, with the league's help, get Matthews with the 1st overall pick.

Cuz this is how you rebuild :)

[TjAlmeida]

Hopefully we get into the top three. Selection is a lot easier in the top three then it is 4-6.

[Gh0stRider]

Dammit Datsyuk!

[Ch28]

Hopefully we get into the top three. Selection is a lot easier in the top three then it is 4-6.

I think any team picking top 9-10 will be golden

Matthews
Laine
Poolparty
Dubois
Tkachuck
Juolevi
Nylander
Sergachev
Chychrun

Big question marks are Tkachuck because a lot of his points are secondary assists and Chychrun has taken a step back in his game this season (which is usually a bad sign for draft year players)

[slicrick]

Playoff seeding is confirmed. Going to be watching SJS vs LA, STL vs CHI and NYR vs PIT for sure.

http://i.snag.gy/KLUIa.jpg

I think Detroit might have a decent chance to knock off TBL, TBL is missing Stamkos, Stralman and if I remember correctly Tyler Johnson and Kucherov were both recently injured as well. Resting them maybe? If Tampa doesn't have those guys on top of Stamkos and Stralman missing I think they will have a tough time.

I hate saying it as an NYR fan but NYR will have a hard time in this years playoffs as well. Their defenseman have slowed down significantly (Boyle, Girardi and Staal) along with McDonagh being injued and having an injury ridden season. Lundqvist hasn't looked outstanding towards the end of the season either but I think he will be ready come playoffs. That team has lived off their dmen and goaltending and now that they've slowed down a bit NYR could get exposed quite easily.

[TjAlmeida]

I think any team picking top 9-10 will be golden

Matthews
Laine
Poolparty
Dubois
Tkachuck
Juolevi
Nylander
Sergachev
Chychrun

Big question marks are Tkachuck because a lot of his points are secondary assists and Chychrun has taken a step back in his game this season (which is usually a bad sign for draft year players)

I agree with the quality of players within the canucks drafting area, but the choice is a lot more black and white 1-3. After that it opens up, Juolevi, Chychrun, Tkachuk, dubois, Nylander, Sergachev, maybe brown..

[Ch28]

I agree with the quality of players within the canucks drafting area, but the choice is a lot more black and white 1-3. After that it opens up, Juolevi, Chychrun, Tkachuk, dubois, Nylander, Sergachev, maybe brown..

I think we don't need to worry about that too much. As much shit as we give GMJB for the trades and contracts given out, he has been doing a great job at the draft. Brock Boeser in particular has been playing like an elite level player in the NCAA this season.

[highfive]

^unless wiesbrod fucks it up and finds us another jankowski

[pure.life]

RYP - Datsyuk - Stage Fights - Lecavalier - Kadri

https://youtu.be/GuwnUSACWQI

[6o4__boi]

is there an RS bracket challenge created already?

[Gumby]

Burrows' last game in a Canucks jersey?

I'll be sad if that's true. :(

[murd0c]

Sadly I think his time is up since he can't really do what he did in the past anymore... That being said he came from the ECHL played with the best Canucks of all time and had years of great hockey and finally slayed us the Dragon when no one thought he was going to go anywhere. It sucks but that's life in the NHL being that style of player.

[Ronin]

Burrows is one of my favorite Canucks of all time. Guy never slacked and was a big game player for us during the most successful period of Canucks history.

[SumAznGuy]

What a shot by Laine with 1 second left to tie the game.

Look for Bob McKenzie's retweet with the video.

https://twitter.com/TSNBobMcKenzie/status/719583832022724608

[murd0c]

the more highlights I see from Laine the more I kinda hope we get the second pick and not the first.

[SumAznGuy]

Markstrom and Tanev will play at the World Championships.
Hamhuis said no because of his current contract situation.

[highfive]

the more highlights I see from Laine the more I kinda hope we get the second pick and not the first.

True but I like Matthews just because he plays the centre position. You can never have too many centres.

Henrik Sutter Matthews Horvat McCann Vey (:troll:)

[pastarocket]

-good TSN article about picking winners for a playoff hockey pool:

Statistically Speaking: The numbers to help win your playoff pool - Article - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/statistically-speaking-the-numbers-to-help-win-your-playoff-pool-1.469579)

I'm picking two dark horses in the East for first round upsets over Tampa and Washington: Detroit and Philly.

Giroux averages over 1 point a game in the playoffs (1.07). :considered:

Giroux and Datsyuk are some my picks for a playoff pool. :considered:

[Jmac]

This is what our cap situation looks like next season.

Cap hits in excess of ELC maximum of $0.925M (13):
D. Sedin ($7.000M)
H. Sedin ($7.000M)
R. Miller ($6.000M)
A. Edler ($5.000M)
A. Burrows ($4.500M)
C. Tanev ($4.450M)
B. Sutter ($4.375M)
L. Sbisa ($3.600M)
D. Dorsett ($2.650M)
J. Hansen ($2.500M)
C. Higgins ($2.500M)
J. Markstrom ($1.550M)
A. Rodin ($0.950M)

R. Luongo ($0.800M) [Salary Retention]

Total cap hit of $52.875M for 8 forwards, 3 defensemen, 2 goaltenders.

ELCs (14):
N. Tryamkin ($0.925M)
B. Hutton ($0.896M)
B. Horvat ($0.894M)
J. McCann ($0.894M)
J. Virtanen ($0.894M)
B. Gaunce ($0.863M)
J. Subban ($0.755M)
G. Brisebois ($0.734M SR)
J. Labate ($0.680M)
A. Sautner ($0.675M)
M. Stewart ($0.655M)
A. Cederholm ($0.645M)
C. Cassels ($0.631M)
E. McEneny ($0.585M)

Other players under contract (2):
A. Biega ($0.750M)
R. Bachman ($0.575M)

Players under contract: 26/45 skaters, 3/5 goaltenders

RFAs (9):
L. Vey ($1.000M QO)
S. Baertschi ($0.945M QO)
E. Etem ($0.893M QO)
A. Pedan ($0.832M QO)
M. Granlund ($0.806M QO)
L. Blomstrand ($0.697M QO)
J. Cannata ($0.660M QO)
A. Grenier ($0.644M QO)
M. Zalewski ($0.633M QO)

UFAs (9):
R. Vrbata
D. Hamhuis
B. Prust
M. Bartkowski
Y. Weber
R. Kenins
T. Fedun
A. Friesen
B. Jones

The salary cap for the 2016-2017 season is expected to be around $74M. That leaves the Canucks about $21M to fill 6 forward spots and 4 defense spots. Baertschi, Horvat, Hutton, and Tryamkin should be locks to make the roster (assuming they're not traded). Horvat, Hutton, and Tryamkin are all on ELCs.

We don't know yet what Baertschi's contract demands are, but he's due a raise from his current $0.900M. He's an RFA with arbitration rights coming off a 15-goal, 28-point season. Normally, I would say it should be a 2 x $1.500M-$2.000M bridge deal (based on past RFA comparables), but given it's Dim Jim, all bets are off.

So that would give us roughly $16.5M to fill 4 forward spots and 2 defense spots.

Buying out Higgins makes a lot more sense than buying out Burrows if we were to buy out one of them due to Burrows' front-loaded contract.

Buying out Burrows would save $2.000M in cap space in 16-17 and would cost us $1.000M in cap space in 17-18.

Buying out Higgins would save $1.667M in cap space in 16-17 and would cost us $0.833M in cap space in 17-18.

As Burrows has a substantially lower salary than cap hit next year, he could be a prime candidate for a trade with 50% salary retention ($2.250M cap hit, $1.500M salary) to a cap floor team. That would save us $2.250M in 16-17 with no cap penalty the following season and it would save Aquillini $0.5M.

If we buy out Higgins and trade Burrows w/ 50% retention, that would give us about $20.5M to fill 6 forward spots and 2 defense spots. Fill a few of those with guys like Etem, Granlund, Gaunce, and, hopefully, Matthews for cheap, sign Hamhuis for another season for $2-3M, and take a run at some high-priced help in the UFA market.

[Infiniti]

^^ I really don't see Philly beating the Caps. As good as the Flyers have been playing, I think in a 7 game series they will be in tough against a Caps team that seems different from previous years.

[murd0c]

True but I like Matthews just because he plays the centre position. You can never have too many centres.

Henrik Sutter Matthews Horvat McCann Vey (:troll:)

and with that I think they could McCann with how his season went. Don't wrong I would be more than happy if we got the first pick but if we got second instead I won't be as bummed as I would of been earlier in the year.

[Jmac]

Sadly I think his time is up since he can't really do what he did in the past anymore... That being said he came from the ECHL played with the best Canucks of all time and had years of great hockey and finally slayed us the Dragon when no one thought he was going to go anywhere. It sucks but that's life in the NHL being that style of player.
I would be shocked if he's not playing in the NHL next season.

He put up 22 points playing primarily on the 4th line, was 9th on the team amongst forwards in Corsi Relative, 5th amongst forwards in D-Zone faceoff starts. He's only a year removed from 18 goals ... from the 3rd line.

It's pretty obvious that he wasn't utilized to his full potential by WD. While guys like Grenier, Etem, Vey, etc. got 1st line duties with the Sedins when Hansen was injured, Burrows continued to be buried on the 4th line. Same could be said of Vrbata (and it destroyed Vrbata's trade value).

If he's bought out, he'll get a 1 x $1M contract pretty easily, IMO. Traded with retention is definitely a possibility, IMO.

BTW, Boeser heading back to the NCAA :fuuuuu:

[dbaz]

boeser confirmed on twitter hes returning to college

I think its a good move, his team had lots of veteran players, and he is not nhl ready so theres no reason to rush him. I want to see what he can do as a leader on his college team

reports on demko are that hes pissed about losing in the final 4, and is looking to see what the team does (his teammates, and recruits) before deciding

[Armind]

FACK

[Jmac]

boeser confirmed on twitter hes returning to college

I think its a good move, his team had lots of veteran players, and he is not nhl ready so theres no reason to rush him. I want to see what he can do as a leader on his college team

reports on demko are that hes pissed about losing in the final 4, and is looking to see what the team does (his teammates, and recruits) before deciding
If Demko returns, that's possibly a huge blow to our prospect pool. Hopefully he doesn't pull a douchebag move and use that stupid fucking NCAA loophole on us.

[dbaz]

I see demko signing here by the end of summer, I think hes just hoping lots of players on the team don't sign and leave, but its already happening. add to the fact he would be in the ahl with McCann. im assuming his parents want him to finish school, like all parents do with their kids, so that's probably adding to the pressure of leaving his teammates

stretcher is also apparently down to the canucks and oilers. wander if our selling point is simply, look at what happened to Schultz lol

[TjAlmeida]

If Demko returns, that's possibly a huge blow to our prospect pool. Hopefully he doesn't pull a douchebag move and use that stupid fucking NCAA loophole on us.

How is it a huge blow to our prospect pool? Unless he stays in the NCAA and then goes to free agency. He is building confidence in a successful environment in Boston so it is not to bad if he stay's, unless he says fuck Vancouver and goes where he wants!

[Jmac]

How is it a huge blow to our prospect pool? Unless he stays in the NCAA and then goes to free agency. He is building confidence in a successful environment in Boston so it is not to bad if he stay's, unless he says fuck Vancouver and goes where he wants!
It seems like you missed the word 'possibly' in my sentence.

[TjAlmeida]

It seems like you missed the word 'possibly' in my sentence.

No I saw your 'possibly' But that still does not clarify if you mean the current Utica pool or do you mean it will be a blow to our pool in the future if he goes to free agency.. Man, if he does not turn pro this summer the media in Vancouver are going to go nuts, then for sure the guy wont sign here lol!

[6o4__boi]

How is it a huge blow to our prospect pool?!

anyone correct me if i'm wrong but...

Goalies under contract to 2016-17
Miller, Markstrom, and Bachmann

:badpokerface:

There IS no goalie prospect pool lol

[TjAlmeida]

anyone correct me if i'm wrong but...

Goalies under contract to 2016-17
Miller, Markstrom, and Bachmann

:badpokerface:

There IS no goalie prospect pool lol

There was no prospect pool this year either. Combo of Bachman and Cannata.

[highfive]

If Demko doesn't sign, I would trade him, Boeser, and a pick for 3rd overall pick?

Might work in NHL 16 but don't know if dim jim can pull it off haha.

[murd0c]

hell no... We need Demko!!

[Jmac]

No I saw your 'possibly' But that still does not clarify if you mean the current Utica pool or do you mean it will be a blow to our pool in the future if he goes to free agency.. Man, if he does not turn pro this summer the media in Vancouver are going to go nuts, then for sure the guy wont sign here lol!
It'll possibly be a blow for the reasons you said. Vancouver media will be hounding him, he'll have the option of signing wherever he chooses after he finishes school next year, and we don't have another legitimate prospect goaltender in the system (Cannata is our only other "prospect" goaltender, but he's a 26-year-old AHL 1B).

[highfive]

hell no... We need Demko!!

So we can trade him when he's in his prime for a 9th overall pick? :troll: lol

[6o4__boi]

dim jim needs to start kicking tires at other college UFA goalies to at least create a prospect pool...at this rate we'll need Chris Levesque to get out of the kitchen and back into his goalie equipment sometime next year

if Demko isn't signed by the week before the draft, they should at least get a feel for what he could fetch for in the market and do some leg work on possible trades

but then again, this management is great at fucking losing assets for nothing

[Jmac]

dim jim needs to start kicking tires at other college UFA goalies to at least create a prospect pool...at this rate we'll need Chris Levesque to get out of the kitchen and back into his goalie equipment sometime next year

if Demko isn't signed by the week before the draft, they should at least get a feel for what he could fetch for in the market and do some leg work on possible trades

but then again, this management is great at fucking losing assets for nothing
We're basically left with three scenarios:

1) Demko decides to turn pro, we sign him.
2) Demko decides to re-commit to the NCAA, we trade him.
3) Demko decides to re-commit to the NCAA, we keep him.

Now, 2 seems preferable to 3 at face value, but I would imagine that his trade value will severely diminish once he makes the decision to return to school as potential trade partners will be in the same predicament we would be.

If Demko decides to return to school, would you be okay with receiving say a 5th round pick in exchange for his rights?

[6o4__boi]

yeah...i can live with a 5th
it's better than having him commit to school and get fucked like Nashville got when all is said and done

[TjAlmeida]

I would rather gamble on him signing with us then give him away for a 5th rounder. UNLESS he specifically tells management he does not want to sign in vancouver.

[Jmac]

Melanson leaving

Heart tugs Melanson home; Canucks losing Rollie the goalie coach | Vancouver Sun (http://vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/heart-tugs-melanson-home-canucks-losing-rollie-the-goalie-coach)
After 35 years in professional hockey, the last six seasons with the Vancouver Canucks, Melanson still knows where he needs to be next. And it is not here. It’s in Shediac, N.B., the lobster fishing town where he grew up, to spend time with his 84-year-old mother, Albertine. And in Montreal, where he’ll figure out with his fiancée, Lyne, what kind of life they’ll live and where.

At age 55, among the best in his highly-specialized profession, Melanson will be leaving the Canucks and could be leaving professional hockey, too.

[Hondaracer]

A 5th rounder for the best goalie prospect available, basically anywhere in the world?

Are you guys on crack? Fuck if we can't get him signed we're fucking finished.

[6o4__boi]

I would rather gamble on him signing with us then give him away for a 5th rounder. UNLESS he specifically tells management he does not want to sign in vancouver.

But what if he says he want to explore his options at FA? Vancouver just isn't gonna win a competition where there will be multiple teams vying for his services.
That 5th would still be better than nothing.


Sucks that Rollie is leaving but this one was a long time coming. Looks like Clouts will be coming in FT and maybe Alex Auld in some supporting role.

[CRS]

But what if he says he want to explore his options at FA? Vancouver just isn't gonna win a competition where there will be multiple teams vying for his services.
That 5th would still be better than nothing.


Sucks that Rollie is leaving but this one was a long time coming. Looks like Clouts will be coming in FT and maybe Alex Auld in some supporting role.

Ugh, no.

Where are you getting this info from?

[murd0c]

Clouts has been a part time goalie coach with the Comets the last couple of years... They better not bring him to the Canucks for more then a supporting role

[6o4__boi]

Mind you, it's from the provies but there was a collection of tweets I can't find anymore that put Cloutier and Auld in the conversation.
Medicine Hat and Dallas-related staff also in the running lol.

The Provies: Daniel goes off and everything you need to know about the Rollie situation. | The Province (http://blogs.theprovince.com/2016/03/19/the-provies-daniel-goes-off-and-everything-you-need-to-know-about-the-rollie-situation/)

https://twitter.com/KevinisInGoal/status/711424157125218304

https://twitter.com/KevinisInGoal/status/711425056459468800

Well, one of the worst kept Canucks secrets is now out.

Funny this, because it wasn’t that long ago that Linden said Willie and his staff were coming back.

Melanson’s contract is up at the end of the year, and for a variety of reasons, it’s expected he’ll be gone. Though, he will sit down with management and talk about a potential extension with the team but when the season is over.

Nothing is officially a done deal.

These things are always complex.

There’s just never a lot of openings so can Melanson can find another fit at what the Canucks pay? Sometimes for a coach like him, people make room.

But most have believed for some time, he’ll move East.

Part of it is personal, something head coach Willie Desjardins referenced when asked about it by Canucks.com reporter after the game.

Interesting that.

There was a long delay before Willie was made available tonight before what I would call an uncharacteristic question.

Wouldn’t surprise me if the Canucks set something up to get ahead of a sensitive, potentially negative issue, after the report made it on HNIC.

The way I’ve heard it from several people, Alex Auld is a leading candidate to replace him, and it’s a job I think Auld would want, and one I’m sure he’d be good at.

There are players who would like this to happen.

Other candidates, under the premise Willie will be back, include Mike Valley, who is with Dallas and was essentially demoted into a development role. He has a close relationship with Willie.

And then there’s Eli Wilson, who worked with Willie in Medicine Hat, works privately with big names and should be back in the NHL.

Woodley also put this out:

That seems a long shot to me with Ranford’s contract status.

Melanson, obviously, would be a significant loss. He’s made every goalie that’s come through here better. Arguably, no coach has had more success developing goalies.

But he’s not irreplaceable.

Cloutier doesn’t get nearly enough credit for the work he’s put in with Markstrom. He has had more influence of the two on Markstrom’s development.

In fact, I’m unconvinced Markstrom and Melanson is a great fit. Now, Lack was a different story and probably would love Rollie to be in Carolina.

As far as Demko goes, Rollie wasn’t there at his first development camp.

Demko’s progression was always going to be mostly on Cloutier.

Cloutier would be at the top of the list, but, as Woodley said, it’s believed he’s happy where he is, apparently happy and making more as a development coach than some in the NHL.




Bill Ranford would be great...too bad he can't get out of his contract with LA

[highfive]

I don't know how cloutier is as a goalie coach. Maybe teach them how to fight? But goaltending?

[Jmac]

He's been a goaltending coach for 5 years (1 OHL, 4 x AHL). He had a hand in developing Lack and Markstrom, both have given him good reviews.

I'd prefer someone with a longer resume, though.

[murd0c]

I don't know how cloutier is as a goalie coach. Maybe teach them how to fight? But goaltending?

he was still an nhl goalie and even tho he drove us crazy he still knows the game and the market better then most people out there. It's better having someone with real nhl experience then someone that doesn't

[Jmac]

he was still an nhl goalie and even tho he drove us crazy he still knows the game and the market better then most people out there. It's better having someone with real nhl experience then someone that doesn't
Francois Allaire never played professional hockey. He started as a goaltending coach at age 19 and, arguably, is the most influential goaltending coach ever, inventing the butterfly goaltending style.

His brother, Benoit Allaire, has been the goaltending coach for the New York Rangers for the past 12 years. Another guy who never played pro hockey.

[Ch28]

Cloutier might've had epic level meltdowns as a goalie, but Markstrom and Lack have nothing but great things to say about him as a goalie coach.

[slicrick]

Fingers crossed that Benoit Allaire never leaves the NYR organization. He has done a great job with Lundqvist and Talbot.

[6o4__boi]

Cloutier might've had epic level meltdowns as a goalie, but Markstrom and Lack have nothing but great things to say about him as a goalie coach.


Probably showed em what he does to Swedish goalies that piss him off

[punkwax]

Cloutier might've had epic level meltdowns as a goalie, but Markstrom and Lack have nothing but great things to say about him as a goalie coach.

Those who cannot do, teach :teach:

[pastarocket]

JB and WD answer questions from reporters during the end of season press conference:

https://youtu.be/tDdCraZxxsw

[Jmac]

Note: The first 10 minutes are just an "End of Season Media Availability" screen.

[Ch28]

Benning
Goal is to make playoffs while transitioning young players, praised Markstrom, Horvat, Bae, and Hutton.
Blamed injuries to experienced players, forcing young players into bigger roles
Asked about where he sees the team next year, kinda avoided the question, said younger players will have to get better if they want to be competitive
Praised Boeser, said he'd be a first line player, said if we end up with a top 3 pick we'll get another potential first line player
Believes you need a true #1 guy to win, believes when Edler is at his best he can be that guy
Looking to add college free agents, believes Philip Larsen will help PP and producing offence
Said Burr and Hammer are class acts, will figure out their futures next week ith coaches and management, will also decide on RFA's
Sat down with Demko and Boeser's parents & agents, Boeser going back to ND, trying to sign Demko
Looking to add piece in free agency in 22-28 age range that will help them compete, mentioned D and Wingers
Need good mix of young players and veterans
Leaves who plays in net up to coaches, thinks Markstrom and Miller both had good years
Went through 35 players this year, had a look at a lot of different guys
Believes Miller is important in Markstrom's development, believes goalies take longer to develop, extremely happy with goalies
Will take BPA, doesn't see defensemen in top 3
Demko competitive, angry about loss in frozen four, Jim will let him go through his decision making process with his parents an agent
Still talking with Rollie Melanson, he's dealing with family issues, his role might change but will try to keep him involved
If Demko signs, will be patient with development
Didn't rule out signing of Loui Eriksson
1st and 2nd year players are thinking about themselves, with staying in the NHL, by 3rd year easier to think about the team game w/ stability
Top-3 players in draft can step right into the NHL and contribute
Doesn't believe asset management has been a problem
Chris Higgins was a tough decision, great attitude in Utica, part of the reason they called him back up, will decide on his future next week
Sees Pedan as defenseman, come a long way since trade, hes going back to Utica
Worried about Gaunce at center originally because his skating wasn't great, now that's improved so center is an option

Willie
Challenging year, impressed with McCann and Virtanen, proved they could play at NHL level
Horvat wanted to win, tried to make something happen every shift
Accountability is key with young players, even coaches (singled out himself)
Avoided question about where Willie himself could improve, going back to young players
Tryamkin has upside, knows what he has to do over summer, glad he got time near the end of the season
Asked about offence from defensemen, said powerplay wasn't good enough to get D points, says they need to play an aggressive style
More excitement with the team with more young guys, players were extremely positive in the interviews
Leaders have input in direction of team, Sedin's in particular, young leaders also have opportunity to voice their opinions
Burrows is a quality person, one of the best views of the game, lot of respect for him
McCann has skill, and an edge (referenced pushing back against Getzlaf)

[Jmac]

There were a few :facepalm: moments with Benning in that interview.

Paraphrasing - 'We went through 11 defensemen this season ... Out east, we would worry about who our 7th and 8th dmen were. Here, we need to worry about our 10th, 11th, and 12th dman.'

...

...

...

No shit ...

It's like he came in and said, "Everything the previous regime did was wrong, I know better." ... And is just now coming to the realization that maybe they did what they did for a reason ... Like sleep doctors, having a roster with good defensive depth, putting waiver-exempt players in the AHL (i.e. Tanev) for injury call-ups down the road even though they were better than some of the players on the NHL roster, etc.

Then he dances around Drance's questions regarding asset management ... Ugh ...

Plus Benning contradicted himself on multiple occassions.

Willie did okay in that interview. He's a good talker.

[PiuYi]

Benning
Will take BPA, doesn't see defensemen in top 3


HALLELUJAH!!!! PRAISE THE LORDDDDDDD :chairdance:


(got so worried after someone mentioned jake bean :lol)

[cdizzle_996]

http://youtu.be/GuwnUSACWQI

RIP

[highfive]

HALLELUJAH!!!! PRAISE THE LORDDDDDDD :chairdance:


(got so worried after someone mentioned jake bean :lol)


Jake Bean is #13 in the NHL central scouting report today. lol

Dubois is 1st for N. American Skaters

It would be interesting to see who we draft if our pick falls out of the top 3.

[HonestTea]

PlayNow doesn't have any Power Pick bets up yet :/

[Ch28]

Jake Bean is #13 in the NHL central scouting report today. lol

Dubois is 1st for N. American Skaters

It would be interesting to see who we draft if our pick falls out of the top 3.

Dubois or Nylander

I'm really not sold on Tkachuk and his numbers being inflated by Dvorak and Marner

[xxxrsxxx]

so what are everyone's predictions

[jeedee]

Dubois or Nylander

I'm really not sold on Tkachuk and his numbers being inflated by Dvorak and Marner

I'm not sold on Dubois

QMJHL stats are inflated as hell with the high scoring and its probably the worst league in the CHL drafting wise.

[Mike Oxbig]

Canucks gonna have bad luck always missing out on the good things

missed the big 5 last draft picking 6th (virtanen) and theyre gonna miss the big 3 this draft pick 4th with chychrun

[pastarocket]

The Leafs spend big money on contracts for Rielly and Kadri.

Hey Bouncing Bettys, does this news put a spring in your step? :troll:

Maple Leafs lock up Rielly, Kadri to six-year deals - Article - TSN (http://www.tsn.ca/maple-leafs-lock-up-rielly-kadri-to-six-year-deals-1.470894)

Maple Leafs lock up Rielly, Kadri to six-year deals

The Toronto Maple Leafs signed defenceman Morgan Rielly and forward Nazem Kadri to long-term deals on Wednesday.

Rielly signed a six-year, $5 million contract and Kadri inked a six-year, $4.5 million deal with the club.

Rielly led all Maple Leafs defencemen with a career-high 36 points while skating in all 82 games this year. Since entering the league in 2013-14, the 22-year-old has 19 goals and 73 assists in 236 regular season games.

Rielly was named to Team Canada’s roster for the 2016 IIHF World Championship earlier this week.

Kadri led the Maple Leafs with 17 goals and 28 assists in 76 games this season. In parts of seven NHL seasons, the 25-year-old has registered 81 goals and 116 assists and 207 penalty minutes in 326 regular season games.

The London, Ontario native was originally selected by the Maple Leafs with the seventh overall pick in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft

[highfive]

Canucks gonna have bad luck always missing out on the good things

missed the big 5 last draft picking 6th (virtanen) and theyre gonna miss the big 3 this draft pick 4th with chychrun


Virtanen at 6 is still pretty good so far.

Dal colle hasn't done anything yet but virtanen is at least in the NHL.

Larkin should've went higher that year

[jeedee]

Virtanen at 6 is still pretty good so far.

Dal colle hasn't done anything yet but virtanen is at least in the NHL.

Being in the NHL before another player doesn't mean anything lol.

eg. people were calling Horvat a bust because Nichuskin was in the NHL before him. Compare them now :lol

Dal Colle will probably (most likely) outscore Virtanen when he reaches the NHL :lol

[Mike Oxbig]

Virtanen compares to Torres
Chychrun compares to Erik Johnson (but he a #1 overall doe)

[spideyv2]

I'm not sold on Dubois

QMJHL stats are inflated as hell with the high scoring and its probably the worst league in the CHL drafting wise.

Dat Bernier bust potential

[CRS]

Virtanen compares to Torres
Chychrun compares to Erik Johnson (but he a #1 overall doe)

I've said this before and I'll say it again.

:gtfo:

[murd0c]

wow great news for once!!

Canucks sign defenceman Troy Stecher - Vancouver Canucks - News (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=878730&hootPostID=b26c76615482467871828cfe006a7fce)

Vancouver, B.C. –Vancouver Canucks General Manager Jim Benning announced today that the club has signed defenceman Troy Stecher.

Stecher, 22, recently completed his junior season with the University of North Dakota, leading the Fighting Hawks to their eighth NCAA Championship while being named to the All-Tournament Team. A Second Team West All-American, Stecher led the Fighting Hawks defencemen in goals (8), assists (21), and points (29) this season. His career-high 29 points also ranked him sixth in scoring among NCAA blueliners. The 5-11, 191-pound defenceman has appeared in 119 NCAA games over three seasons for the University of North Dakota where he has collected 53 points (13-40-53).

Prior to his collegiate career, the Richmond, British Columbia native spent three seasons with the Penticton Vees of the BCHL. He helped the Vees capture the RBC National Junior A Championship in 2012, where he was named the Top Defenceman.

[Ronin]

Wow, 45 points and the Leafs want to lock up Kadri long term?

[Ch28]

wow great news for once!!

Canucks sign defenceman Troy Stecher - Vancouver Canucks - News (http://canucks.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=878730&hootPostID=b26c76615482467871828cfe006a7fce)

Nooooooooice

http://i.imgur.com/01njKFc.gif

[6o4__boi]

If JB can land Drake, I'll forgive him for the trade deadline this year

[murd0c]

are the Canucks even going after him? I think he would be a great call since he's on a line with Brock but I haven't heard anything saying the Canucks are interested in him.

[CRS]

are the Canucks even going after him? I think he would be a great call since he's on a line with Brock but I haven't heard anything saying the Canucks are interested in him.

https://twitter.com/frank_seravalli/status/719933453819604992

[radioman]

Going from team Medicine hat tigers to team North Dakota.

[Obsideon]

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/284/954/44f.png

[Jmac]

Wow, 45 points and the Leafs want to lock up Kadri long term?
I didn't follow the Leafs much this year ... Mainly because they took all the fun out of watching them lose with their blatant offseason tank strategy ... And the Canucks were just as bad ...

And maybe Bouncing Bettys can correct me if I'm wrong ...

AFAIK, Babcock used Kadri as their shutdown guy this season and, while 45 points isn't stellar, it is respectable. He also had a very low shooting %, indicating some bad puck luck, too.

That said, I'd have 2 issues with this if I were a Leafs fan.
- He's become a rat. He dives, he takes cheap shots, and I can't stand his attitude.
- With Nylander, Marner, and possibly Matthews in the system, Kadri could very well find himself as an expensive bottom 6 centre very soon.

[TjAlmeida]

I didn't follow the Leafs much this year ... Mainly because they took all the fun out of watching them lose with their blatant offseason tank strategy ... And the Canucks were just as bad ...

And maybe Bouncing Bettys can correct me if I'm wrong ...

AFAIK, Babcock used Kadri as their shutdown guy this season and, while 45 points isn't stellar, it is respectable. He also had a very low shooting %, indicating some bad puck luck, too.

That said, I'd have 2 issues with this if I were a Leafs fan.
- He's become a rat. He dives, he takes cheap shots, and I can't stand his attitude.
- With Nylander, Marner, and possibly Matthews in the system, Kadri could very well find himself as an expensive bottom 6 centre very soon.

I agree with everything! At 4.5 mill for 6 years it makes him fairly affordable if it comes to moving him, I like the signing personally. He plays with an edge and does embellish now and then but still has respectable production.

[Jmac]

Virtanen at 6 is still pretty good so far.

Dal colle hasn't done anything yet but virtanen is at least in the NHL.

Larkin should've went higher that year
Dal Colle won a Memorial Cup last season, put up 80+ points for the 3rd straight season, and scored 18 points in 9 playoff games this season.

He's had an excellent OHL career.

You usually won't know what you've really got until 3-7 years after the draft.

Alex Pietrangelo, for example, played 2 more seasons in the OHL after his draft and many people were questioning if he was worthy of his draft position.

Meanwhile, Zach Bogosian and Luke Schenn stepped immediately into the NHL. While Pietrangelo was in the OHL, many people considered Bogosian and Schenn to be better than him. Obviously, Pietrangelo has turned out far better than both. Some would argue that Bogosian and Schenn were both hurt from being rushed into the NHL.

[Durrann]

anyone else think signing Troy Stecher was also a bait to lure Boeser to sign with us the following season? since they're tight

[Ch28]

anyone else think signing Troy Stecher was also a bait to lure Boeser to sign with us the following season? since they're tight

Boeser will sign with the Canucks. He already said on the Team 1040 yesterday that he's not going to do the whole 4 year college thing. I think this is a case of him winning the cup in his freshman year and going back to see if he can do a repeat while developing as a better player.

If anything, this should entice Drake Caggiula to sign with Vancouver since Stecher is signed and Boeser should be signed by next season.

[pastarocket]

The Pens lit up the Rangers tonight. :lawl:

Hornqvist's hat trick helps me in a playoff pool. :awwyeah:

[Tim Budong]

this Hawks/Blues game is awesome

[HonestTea]

OT

[murd0c]

wow what a win for the Blues

[pastarocket]

That Backes sharp angle shot and the deflection. :troll:

[Ch28]

Kelly gonna be happy tonight

http://41.media.tumblr.com/cfe7c975c405c5c2abd88e91011a4bc4/tumblr_nk90rfkdHk1sznyklo1_1280.jpg

[MG1]

Kelly's a great gal.............

[Sentinel]

Tell Kelly I said hi.

[dbaz]

boston college players are fleeing. good news.
woods, santini, Gilmour, tuch all signed already. rumours of fitzgerald and white signing too

[Amuse]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YC1aGG8Rp9Q

[highfive]

Craig button said on 1040 how it's rare and that its good we have two elite players in demko and boeser.

[6o4__boi]

Except neither of them are signed yet and we got a GM that fucking sucks at asset management.

I wouldn't get too excited just yet.

[CRS]

Except neither of them are signed yet and we got a GM that fucking sucks at asset management.

I wouldn't get too excited just yet.

Guys, I think I found a picture of 6o4__boi

http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/family-guy-the-quest-for-stuff/images/4/4e/Buzz.png

[6o4__boi]

i thought you found my nudes for a sec
but that's good too

[SumAznGuy]

Except neither of them are signed yet and we got a GM that fucking sucks at asset management.

I wouldn't get too excited just yet.

Dumb and Dumber were talking about this this morning on TSN1040.

Botchford: If the Canucks moved earlier, they could have traded Radim Vrbata | Vancouver Sun (http://vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/botchford-if-the-canucks-moved-earlier-they-could-have-traded-radim-vrbata)

Basically, Vrbata was pissed and sulked like a little kid because he couldn't play on the top line. WD knew he wasn't playing his best but kept him playing every game till he got hurt. And JB didn't talk to Vrbata or offer to trade him earlier on and instead Vrbata screwed the club by only limited them to 3 teams that he wanted to be traded to, so now he gets to walk away as a free agent and the club gets nothing back.

[Mike Oxbig]

Its Ok, Bennings mistakes will be forgiven by his draft picks. Hopefully he will step down one day and become our head scout

[CRS]

Dumb and Dumber were talking about this this morning on TSN1040.

Botchford: If the Canucks moved earlier, they could have traded Radim Vrbata | Vancouver Sun (http://vancouversun.com/sports/hockey/nhl/vancouver-canucks/botchford-if-the-canucks-moved-earlier-they-could-have-traded-radim-vrbata)

Basically, Vrbata was pissed and sulked like a little kid because he couldn't play on the top line. WD knew he wasn't playing his best but kept him playing every game till he got hurt. And JB didn't talk to Vrbata or offer to trade him earlier on and instead Vrbata screwed the club by only limited them to 3 teams that he wanted to be traded to, so now he gets to walk away as a free agent and the club gets nothing back.

We signed him as a UFA though so I'm not upset about no return if he walks away. If anything, Vrbata screwed himself by having a shitty season and an even shittier attitude. Not many GMs are going to sign 35 year old scorer that's never shown up in the playoffs.

[highfive]

Its Ok, Bennings mistakes will be forgiven by his draft picks. Hopefully he will step down one day and become our head scout

I have to agree with that. Benning's draft record has been pretty good so far.

2014
Virtanen
McCann
Demko
Tryamkin
Forsling
Pettit
Stewart

2015
Boeser
Brisebois
Zhukenov
Neill
Gaudette
Jasek
Olson

So far we are able to get 3 NHL players and 2 potentially NHL players as well.

Way better than the days where we drafted Grabner or White.

[Liquid_o2]

Too bad we gave up Forsling for Clendening :(

[invader]

Forsling on CHI, they need D depth.

[nah]

Dim Jim doesn't sound too confident in signing Demko here...

Thatcher Demko added to U.S. World Championship team - Sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/thatcher-demko-added-u-s-world-championship-team/)

If he could somehow move Miller and have Demko come in as a #2, that could get him to sign.

[punkwax]

I'm pretty confident he'll sign. Demko can't expect to own the crease in his rookie season. He'll learn from Markstrom and hopefully earn the baton down the road.

[murd0c]

he needs to play at least a year in the AHL.. No goalies come straight out of Jr or College and go straight into the NHL

[CRS]

Dim Jim doesn't sound too confident in signing Demko here...

Thatcher Demko added to U.S. World Championship team - Sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/thatcher-demko-added-u-s-world-championship-team/)

If he could somehow move Miller and have Demko come in as a #2, that could get him to sign.

Demko has another year at college. Not sure what trading Miller would accomplish since he's only signed on for another year.

[Mike Oxbig]

Why have markstrom and demko in the system when expansion draft pick is coming up. Demko should start in AHL after college

[6o4__boi]

That NCAA loophole is fucking things up...I know it's a little too late but hopefully that gets resolved this summer or next season.

[SumAznGuy]

So far we are able to get 3 NHL players and 2 potentially NHL players as well.

Way better than the days where we drafted Grabner or White.

Grabner is an NHL player. I think you were thinking more of Jensen.
As for the 3 that you highlighted, only Tryamkin look everyday NHL ready.
Virtanen wasn't bad defensively, but can use some work on his game.
McCann definately needs time to bulk up and get stronger and more experience.
If the Canucks weren't riddled with injuries this year, it would be hard for McCann and Virtanen to get as many games as they played this year.
I can see both of them spending the year in the AHL next season.

[HonestTea]

NO GOAL LOL

YES!

[HonestTea]

Hawks takes the lead!

Edit: Hawks win! :D

[Sentinel]

Wow buzzer beater .

[Tim Budong]

ducks/preds game was good

dis fight at the end of the wings/lightning game doe..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uy25gmtnnQ0

[Nabatron]

dont know how abdelkader isnt suspended for pretty much assaulting blunden there when he is defenseless!

[CRS]

dont know how abdelkader isnt suspended for pretty much assaulting blunden there when he is defenseless!

Welcome to the circus that's the NHL.

[belka]

dont know how abdelkader isnt suspended for pretty much assaulting blunden there when he is defenseless!

If that was Burrows it would've been 4-5 games.

[swiftshift]

Just went through some old photos on facebook about the riot which occurred 5 years ago..
/somuchwin

[SumAznGuy]

Check out that puck movement on the SJ PP. None of this slow shit passing back and forth like the Nucks.
It's pretty much the same play except I think SJ has a right handed D man at the top of the umbrella.
Pass comes from the right half boards to the top D man, who quickly one times a pass to the right handed one time shot at the left faceoff dot.
Then everyone converges onto the net for the rebound.

[Razor Ramon HG]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXGm3GtrOuo

[spoon.ek9]

ouch....

[highfive]

Man. Loving joe thortons play so far in the playoffs

[pastarocket]

These Sharks are for real. :notbad:

Perhaps they did learn their lesson from 2 years ago when they choked against the Kings.
They do look like a different team now. The coaches have this team playing their system well.

Joe Thornton and Joe Pavelski are playing well so far.

[Jmac]

I advised my best friend not to bet on the Kings ... He's kicking himself ...

[Mike Oxbig]

GKG

[Obsideon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pXGm3GtrOuo

Shades of Cloutier lol:badpokerface:

[Tim Budong]

closer to vesa toskola

at least for clouts, it was a slapper directed to him... this one was just wtf

[nah]

Good for Martin Jones from North Van!

[Gumby]

closer to vesa toskola

at least for clouts, it was a slapper directed to him... this one was just wtf
And the centre ice goal on cloutier came off the stick of one of the best defencemen ever... ;)

[Amuse]

Get to know Boeser a little bit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hNRCj9W4yw0

[slicrick]

Cheering for SJS and STL to win their series, year of the playoff exorcisms!

[Jmac]

Royals force game 7 :woot:

[Tim Budong]

mistake on FLA Defence.. Hickey walks right in and blasts one pass Luongo for the OT winner

cant blame Lu on that...but he saw it, and got a piece of it before it trickled in

[AzNightmare]

I advised my best friend not to bet on the Kings ... He's kicking himself ...

shit... but a lot of predictions went heavy on LA to win this round, or even far enough to win the cup... did no one believe in San Jose??

[spoon.ek9]

it's san jose.. they have a history of choking despite how stacked their teams have been in the past. much like us :okay:

[F3]

shit... but a lot of predictions went heavy on LA to win this round, or even far enough to win the cup... did no one believe in San Jose??

The sharks were also the best road team in the regular season and the worst home team out of the playoff teams, by a large margin. So I would hold off before declaring this series over.

[swiftshift]

0-2 for the Ducks
Was almost certain Nashville would win 2 home games back2back.

[murd0c]

If the Kings, Ducks and Hawks get knocked out first round I'm going to be beyond happy and more excited to see playoff hockey in years.

[6o4__boi]

that'd make things interesting to watch

but all those teams are teams that can flip a switch and win a series any time

[Mike Oxbig]

Caps going to win the cup if LA CHI ANA gets knocked out, the only team remaining as a threat will be Pens and STL

[6o4__boi]

there seems to be this fascination among Vancouver's media that if the Canucks get 1st overall...they should trade it to the Yotes for OEL

I don't understand that. Auston figures to be a franchise cornerstone and potential superstar, i know we've never had a Norris stud but you don't trade 1st overall for that.
OEL is good but he's not worth a 1st overall. I'm not even sold that OEL is Norris quality.
Every time i see mentions of that trade it just blows my mind how stupid the media in this city can get.

[Gumby]

Trivia time:

Who is/are the highest player(s) the Canucks have ever drafted?

Trevor Linden (1988), Peter Nedved (1990), and Daniel Sedin (1999) - all drafted 2nd overall

Has a 1st overall player ever worn a Canucks jersey? Dunno the answer to this one.

[Mike Oxbig]

We all know D.Sedin was a 1st pick overall, Burke made a deal with ATL not to draft the sedins

Jovo was a #1 overall pick traded for Bure

[6o4__boi]

never drafted 1st overall before

but just looking at the draft history, god damn, we suck shit at drafting and we have quite possibly, the shittiest luck to go with that
it's so depressing to read through

[trip]

Stefan went overall #1 that draft lol...

[Ch28]

never drafted 1st overall before

but just looking at the draft history, god damn, we suck shit at drafting and we have quite possibly, the shittiest luck to go with that
it's so depressing to read through

The one constant in this issue:

https://postmediaprovince.files.wordpress.com/2014/09/95-delorme.jpg

[Gumby]

We all know D.Sedin was a 1st pick overall, Burke made a deal with ATL not to draft the sedins

Jovo was a #1 overall pick traded for Bure
Ahh yes, forgot about Jovo. I remembered we had a high defenseman - looked up McCabe, but wrong guy!

[nah]

Trivia time:

Who is/are the highest player(s) the Canucks have ever drafted?

Trevor Linden (1988), Peter Nedved (1990), and Daniel Sedin (1999) - all drafted 2nd overall

Has a 1st overall player ever worn a Canucks jersey? Dunno the answer to this one.

You forgot Dale Tallon #2 pick in 1970.

[highfive]

there seems to be this fascination among Vancouver's media that if the Canucks get 1st overall...they should trade it to the Yotes for OEL

I don't understand that. Auston figures to be a franchise cornerstone and potential superstar, i know we've never had a Norris stud but you don't trade 1st overall for that.
OEL is good but he's not worth a 1st overall. I'm not even sold that OEL is Norris quality.
Every time i see mentions of that trade it just blows my mind how stupid the media in this city can get.

OEL is a stud dman. But the idea to give up a franchise centre in Matthews when we have Henrik retiring soon, I rather keep Matthews.

And so far, it seems more likely that norris quality dman are drafted 2nd round and/or later rounds.

[jeedee]

Would give up the 1st overall for a bunch of dmen way ahead of OEL lol. He's good but not Norris/1st overall worthy good.

[XplicitLuder]

OEL + their pick for the 1st overall Kappa

[6o4__boi]

lol go big or go home :troll:
if by some miracle, we get 1st overall and Yotes want their hometown boy, I'd do it for OEL+their first+Dylan Strome or Max Domi or Anthony Duclair

at the very least, nothing less than OEL+Dylan Strome

[Liquid_o2]

If Phoenix has the 3rd overall pick... I would trade it in a heartbeat for OEL and their 1st. Yah Matthews could be great. But having a stud #1 dman and Puljujarvi is too tempting.

Not that Phoenix would ever do that kind of trade anyways.

[6o4__boi]

:okay:

Apr 30, the draft and Jul 1 can't come soon enough

but at least the weather's fuckin awesome right now so we got that goin which is nice.

[highfive]

^I can't wait.

Hockey Playoffs, NBA playoffs, Game of Thrones season 6, Lottery Draft!

[Mike Oxbig]

OEL + top 5 pick is rebuilding on the fly. Canucks just save an extra year of tanking

[tonyzoomzoom]

If you have the first overall pick, would you consider pulling a Brian Burke and trade for the 2nd and 3rd overall picks to get the two Finns?

[CRS]

If you have the first overall pick, would you consider pulling a Brian Burke and trade for the 2nd and 3rd overall picks to get the two Finns?

Yes.

Though that's not at all what Brian Burke did.

[XplicitLuder]

If you have the first overall pick, would you consider pulling a Brian Burke and trade for the 2nd and 3rd overall picks to get the two Finns?


Brb giving every single prospect we have