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Razor Ramon HG 06-28-2008 01:20 PM

If we could resign both Naslund/Morrison/Bertuzzi for cheap, I wouldn't mind giving them another chance. But I don't think they'd be third liners, more second liners.

The Sedins really need to shake up their play. Less cycle and more unpredictability would make it an extremely deadly line. If we can even sign Hossa or Malone, even better.

Harvey Specter 06-28-2008 02:10 PM

I wouldn't mind seeing Bert back in a Canucks jersey.

cspec 06-28-2008 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by berniebennybernard (Post 5919249)
If we could resign both Naslund/Morrison/Bertuzzi for cheap, I wouldn't mind giving them another chance. But I don't think they'd be third liners, more second liners.

The Sedins really need to shake up their play. Less cycle and more unpredictability would make it an extremely deadly line. If we can even sign Hossa or Malone, even better.

tampas got exclusive rights to malone right now i think

CRS 06-28-2008 02:25 PM

Forget bert...

lets get hossa, malone and demitra and we'll be set..


Flame away. I can only hope we get all those 3.

!Nhan 06-28-2008 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 5919312)
Forget bert...

lets get hossa, malone and demitra and we'll be set..


Flame away. I can only hope we get all those 3.

them 3 as well as malone and brian campbell haha.

that's what tsn was saying. that'd be interesting if we got all 5

KenM 06-28-2008 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cspec (Post 5919301)
tampas got exclusive rights to malone right now i think

until July 1st

CRS 06-28-2008 03:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by !nhan (Post 5919329)
them 3 as well as malone and brian campbell haha.

that's what tsn was saying. that'd be interesting if we got all 5

I already said malone... and plus campbell that would only be 4..

6thGear. 06-28-2008 03:04 PM

im all for brian campbell. with injuries to the defense last year, i was pretty surprised the canucks didn't pick him up. i, for 1, can say this year is gonna be pretty interesting.

winson604 06-28-2008 03:35 PM

I'm down for Brian Cambell and then trade 1 of our 3+ million dollar d man. We definitely need a d man like Cambell who can really quarter back the PP. Rite now we don't really have anyone like that.

As for forwards i'm down with Malone and his style of play. But if the price is in the 5+ range id pass.

Avery would be sweet but with him comes danger of course

Demitra and Hossa i would rather not get. But the list of forwards is a bit slim this year so grabbing 1 or both of these guys to help our scoring might just have to happen

Few more days I can't wait to ses what happen

!Nhan 06-28-2008 03:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by winson604 (Post 5919366)
I'm down for Brian Cambell and then trade 1 of our 3+ million dollar d man. We definitely need a d man like Cambell who can really quarter back the PP. Rite now we don't really have anyone like that.

As for forwards i'm down with Malone and his style of play. But if the price is in the 5+ range id pass.

Avery would be sweet but with him comes danger of course

Demitra and Hossa i would rather not get. But the list of forwards is a bit slim this year so grabbing 1 or both of these guys to help our scoring might just have to happen

Few more days I can't wait to ses what happen

From what I've heard, both Demitra and Hossa want to play together. I don't know the truth behind this but a friend told me this last month. If we were to get both it'd be pretty crazy to see them both. The only problem is finding someone to play on the line with them lol. And it's not like we can't afford them right now either because we have about 20 mill or so of space to work with.

Hondaracer 06-28-2008 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRS (Post 5919312)
Forget bert...

lets get hossa, malone and demitra and we'll be set..


Flame away. I can only hope we get all those 3.

and tie up 16+ mill on 3 players? i'll pass

AX.Deadpool 06-28-2008 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 5919402)
and tie up 16+ mill on 3 players? i'll pass

yeah, its going to be hard to get top player. reason being, the Sedins are on their last year on contract, and supposedly they will look for 5-5.5mil per season.

With the current salary trend, it will be hard to sign and keep any top ranked players... I think we can only afford 1 GOOD free agency signing, and the rest, would be guys who are consistent but not too crazy.

Biggest problem in the NHL is the shitty contracts handed down by GM's to sub par players. Gomez & Drury, to only name a few who have 7mil contracts...
Crosby [one of the best players in the league] is only making 8.7mil.

Is Crosby ONLY 1.7mil better then drury and gomez? I personally don't think so.

mako 06-28-2008 04:36 PM

Gomez GP:81 G:16 A:54 P:70

Drury GP:82 G:25 A:33 P:58

Crosby GP:53 G:24 A:48 P:72

AX.Deadpool 06-28-2008 05:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nismo_s13 (Post 5919441)

Gomez GP:81 G:16 A:54 P:70

Drury GP:82 G:25 A:33 P:58

Crosby GP:53 G:24 A:48 P:72

Danny Sedin: GP: 82 G: 29 A: 45 P: 74
Henrik Sedin: GP: 82 G: 15 A: 61 P: 76

Gomez signed a 7mil deal after a 60 point season.
Drury signed a 7mil deal after a 69 point season.
And countless others signed similar deals.

So by that logic, I guess the Sedin's will cost the canucks 14mil per.:twirleye:

Sure, there is more to a player salary then stats, but this is a business,
and the average players salary is increasing far too rapidly, while
the cap increases gradually.

If the price is right, I'd be happy if MG picks up 1 decent natural goal scorer,
and hope that our draft picks pan out, for some cheap young talent.

Hondaracer 06-29-2008 03:38 AM

Players like crosby and ovechkin dont need to get full value though, they get so much money through endorsments and merchandise that it's pretty much a descision wether they want to remain with the club that drafted them or not

Drury and Gomez are more of desperation signings in my mind, teams giving them above market value, because other teams are willing as well.

imo we need to lock up the sedins, for anything 10 mill and under for both of them, i think it's well worth it, lets see

-point a game players
-NEVER injured
-adaptable
-powerplayers and penalty killers

no one is going to take a single sedin either, they are going to have to be moved as a package and imo the deal the canucks could break with them on a long term contract would be sooooo worth it in the long run for the organization especially as the cap climbs ever higher

b0unce. [?] 06-29-2008 08:20 AM

^ everything except pk... rarely saw on them on pk cept near late of the season. im sure everyone knows the usual pk'ers. kes, bur, linden etc and they did an awsome job imo

6thGear. 06-29-2008 09:47 AM

actually, the sedins are PK's. they did so under crawford, but when burrows, kesler emerged, they weren't used as often anymore. i wouldn't say they are never injured. few seasons back, one of them had a back injury, can't remember which one, but they both have had at least 1 injury in their NHL career. i think it was in their 2nd or 3rd year. anyway, i have to agree they are very, very well conditioned players. for what you get out of them at their discounted price, i can't imagine what team wouldn't make a bid for them.

RiceIntegraRS 06-29-2008 09:57 AM

yes, we need to lock them up, butt hey wont sign for anything lesss than 5.5mil each. But Gillis should do it right now cause they finished the season really badly and that would hurt their value abit.

Gillis has $18mil to spend wonder if he'll spend to the cap, and i hope he offers more heavy front loaded contracts to intise more people to come here

Lomac 06-29-2008 10:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hondaracer (Post 5920005)
Players like crosby and ovechkin dont need to get full value though, they get so much money through endorsments and merchandise that it's pretty much a descision wether they want to remain with the club that drafted them or not

Drury and Gomez are more of desperation signings in my mind, teams giving them above market value, because other teams are willing as well.

It also sets a natural limit as well, though. If good players such as Crosby and Ovechkin are only ("only"... sigh) $8million per year, it will make GM's think twice about signing an average player who's asking $7million per year. A lot of GM's will wonder why they'd be paying so much for an average player when there's great players around for just a little bit more.

Well, okay...in theory and principle it works... :p

Ronin 06-29-2008 10:09 AM

But Thomas Vanek gets $10m, lawlz.

rsx 06-29-2008 10:46 AM

TB got Roberts and Malone.

Ronin 06-29-2008 11:13 AM

Only their rights. Neither is under contract.

ek-nine 06-29-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ronin (Post 5920294)
Only their rights. Neither is under contract.

actually they soon are, according to sportsnet

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2008/...ning_signings/

6thGear. 06-29-2008 03:20 PM

$4.43mil per year? don't tell me gillis couldn't offer something better than that?

shawn79 06-29-2008 03:51 PM

he didnt have rights to talk to him anywyas


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