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spoon.ek9 11-08-2016 05:38 PM

maybe Granlund should have been given a star for taking out the goalie :troll:

dbaz 11-08-2016 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spoon.ek9 (Post 8800956)
BK meal on you if you win

fuck off lol

spoon.ek9 11-08-2016 05:47 PM

cmoooonnnn :fullofwin:

68style 11-08-2016 05:51 PM

https://www.nhl.com/news/jacob-marks...nk/c-283308560

Infiniti 11-08-2016 06:44 PM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 8800990)
wheres that guy who was offering me a bridge when I said I'd bet on the canucks to win. might as well get in on that too

Fair enough, you won this round! but lets keep it real, this was an anomaly! Lets see them repeat this agains the NYR next week

6o4__boi 11-09-2016 07:32 AM

that concussion protocol call on Raanta was interesting

there's already conversation saying that what if players purposely target goalies heads with hits/shots to get them out of the game temporarily to gain an advantage

Lundquist was pissed having to come in cold on short notice

6o4__boi 11-09-2016 07:37 AM

From the Province this morning

Lol Gillis still got that fire.
TL; DR Gillis told Ed Willes to go fuck himself via text after he criticized MG's regime.

Spoiler!

Tim Budong 11-09-2016 10:48 AM

VIRTANEN SENT TO UTICA


6o4__boi 11-09-2016 10:56 AM

Canucks winning unwinnable games and doing things that make sense.

What the fuck is going on

Jmac 11-09-2016 11:00 AM

The Gillis era (barring the Aquaman influence in the final years) was easily the best management we've had in the past 20 years. I can't speak about the years leading up to the 94 run as I was too young to comprehend it.

Since Quinn, we've had:
Keenan
Burke
Nonis
Gillis
Benning

Burke is the only one that even comes close. Keenan and Nonis were unmitigated disasters. Benning is trending in that direction, IMO.

SumAznGuy 11-09-2016 11:11 AM

Burke made some great moves like putting together the deal that got us the twins.

I remember Nonis more for trading away picks for rental players.
But Nonis also pulled off the Luongo trade.

Was Keenan a GM? I don't recall that. Then again, I hated the Messier move and stripping Linden of the C.

m3thods 11-09-2016 11:13 AM

It's fun to wonder if GMMG was still given full autonomy after the 2012 washout in the playoffs. But alas that's not how pro sports works in most cases unfortunately.

He was one of few who championed speed and skill like Chicago even when LA/Boston won their cups after 2010. When he was dismissed he seemed to continue to insinuate that he wanted speed/skill while others in the organization wanted size/truculence.

Sure he was a dick, especially if you heard his interview with Bmac/Moj on 1040. Sure he was arrogant. But he also knew what a team needed to look like and trend towards to be successful in the NHL.

Spoon 11-09-2016 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8801260)
Keenan and Nonis were unmitigated disasters.

If Nonis didn't pull the trades he did, you think Gillis would've done so well? :rukidding:

SumAznGuy 11-09-2016 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Spoon (Post 8801266)
If Nonis didn't pull the trades he did, you think Gillis would've done so well? :rukidding:

I just checked. Nonis is only responsible for 2 great trades.
Luongo and trading for the 04 3rd round pick which netted us Edler.

6o4__boi 11-09-2016 11:36 AM

He did sign Kes back from the Flyers offersheet and then re-signed him to a pretty good 3 year contract too

His roster moves were ok.
His drafting was horrid though.

dbaz 11-09-2016 11:37 AM

so virtanen is in the ahl now. but apparently its only for 2 games then hes back up again. wtf

spoon.ek9 11-09-2016 11:41 AM

more of a wake up call than anything

6o4__boi 11-09-2016 11:45 AM

i take back what i said about sensible things

the losing will come back soon

carry on Canucks

highfive 11-09-2016 11:50 AM

I don't think you can have a perfect score GM. The only issues I have is that basically ever since the drafting of the Sedins, we never seem to be able to develop our next core to support them. Either the drafts picks were traded away or they became nothing.

I'm referring to the first rounders and second rounders where they have the highest chance of making it.

We drafted who?

Nathan Smith, Umberger, Koltsov, Grot, Kesler, Bernier, Schneider, Bourdon (RIP), Raymond, Grabner, White, Ellington, Coho, Sauve, Schroeder, Rodin (still with us), Jensen, Gaunce , Mallet (lol), Horvat, Shinkaruk,

6 players over 13 years. Out of that, only 3 I would consider as core players in Kesler, Schneider, and Horvat.

Benning comes in and drafted Virtanen, McCann, Demko, Boeser, Juolevi.

It's still too early to tell on Benning picks but hell, it's a lot better than the Burke, Nonis, Gillis era of picks. As long as he stops trading away 2nd rounders and actually draft somebody.

Basically our scouting has fucked us big time over the years. Not only that but having ownership who wants to win now (I'd be the same if I'm the owner) and GM trading away picks like candy (not just Benning). We are paying for it today.

It's like we we have a big mortgage and spend without saving and we end up biting our own asses years down the road.

Nabatron 11-09-2016 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by dbaz (Post 8801275)
so virtanen is in the ahl now. but apparently its only for 2 games then hes back up again. wtf

I think he is only playing in those games to get a ton of minutes and to get some playing time since they are on the east coast. When they are done and go home I guess they will need him as insurance if any more forwards get injured. So this is kinda not really showing him a message more of trying to get him some games in. If it was to show him a message he would be there longer which I think would be a better option. If he is only going down for two games and then getting sent back up just to sit in the press box like what is the point of that. Also I don't know if anyone was in the same boat as me but when skille sauced that pass to Sven for an assist I knew there that Virtanen wasn't getting back in anytime soon.

tonyzoomzoom 11-09-2016 12:19 PM

IIRC, Keenan got us Bertuzzi and McCabe for Linden.

Jmac 11-09-2016 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8801280)
I don't think you can have a perfect score GM. The only issues I have is that basically ever since the drafting of the Sedins, we never seem to be able to develop our next core to support them. Either the drafts picks were traded away or they became nothing.

I'm referring to the first rounders and second rounders where they have the highest chance of making it.

We drafted who?

Nathan Smith, Umberger, Koltsov, Grot, Kesler, Bernier, Schneider, Bourdon (RIP), Raymond, Grabner, White, Ellington, Coho, Sauve, Schroeder, Rodin (still with us), Jensen, Gaunce , Mallet (lol), Horvat, Shinkaruk,

6 players over 13 years. Out of that, only 3 I would consider as core players in Kesler, Schneider, and Horvat.

Benning comes in and drafted Virtanen, McCann, Demko, Boeser, Juolevi.

It's still too early to tell on Benning picks but hell, it's a lot better than the Burke, Nonis, Gillis era of picks. As long as he stops trading away 2nd rounders and actually draft somebody.

Basically our scouting has fucked us big time over the years. Not only that but having ownership who wants to win now (I'd be the same if I'm the owner) and GM trading away picks like candy (not just Benning). We are paying for it today.

It's like we we have a big mortgage and spend without saving and we end up biting our own asses years down the road.

How are Rodin and Gaunce considered players while Umberger and Raymond not?

Umberger has almost 800 career games and Raymond is over 500.

SumAznGuy 11-09-2016 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8801299)
How are Rodin and Gaunce considered players while Umberger and Raymond not?

Umberger has almost 800 career games and Raymond is over 500.

Yeah, what gives.... LOL

Nabatron 11-09-2016 02:16 PM

Raymond most likely done as for umberger he is on his last legs...

Mike Oxbig 11-09-2016 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tonyzoomzoom (Post 8801287)
IIRC, Keenan got us Bertuzzi and McCabe for Linden.

Most underrated trade of all time
Quote:

McCabe was packaged with Vancouver's first round draft pick in 2000 in exchange for Chicago's first round draft pick in 1999
Mccabe was traded for the 3rd overall for H.sedin :fuckyea:


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