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UFO 11-14-2016 10:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8802281)
The way forward is so goddamned simple. Send the kid to Utica. There's absolutely no benefit to him sitting around and being lazy when he's in. It's so fucking frustrating watching the franchise chew up another prospect when the solution is right there.

I don't disagree with the idea in principle. But there are a couple of complicating factors:
-by all accounts he wasn't owning anything down in Utica the 2 games he was there. Ppl are saying send him down, let him own the competition and regain his confidence. Kind of hard to do that when your compete isn't even there in the AHL.
-some discussion about owners wanting to keep him up for promotional reasons
-his psyche sounds a bit fragile to me at times. What do you do if he can't find his game in the AHL even?
-WD is still on a mandate to win vs develop the kids, so until the kids earn his trust, they won't be getting many big minutes. Stecher and Tryamkin look like they are on their way, which is a very small glimmer of hope

So maybe, a very hopeful maybe, this management team know more about this kid and situation than those in the general public. Everything always seems simple on the surface.

originalhypa 11-14-2016 10:57 AM

You need to understand that there is a balance between playing these young kids, who are liabilities on the ice, and putting out veterans who are going to make the right decision most of the time. There's a power struggle here where the Canucks brass wants to tank for the prospects, whereas Canucks ownership wants to sell tickets. You don't sell tickets by fielding an AHL team, which is what we are. Seriously, take out the Sedins, Burrows, Edler, Eriksson, Tanev and Miller, and we're the Utica Comets!

Yes, you have to give these kids ice time. But that is going to cost you, as many of their mistakes will cost them scoring chances and goals. Learning takes time, which is why the Blackhawks sucked for years until Kane and Toews grew up, and why the Lightning just can't seem to win a cup.

6o4__boi 11-14-2016 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by originalhypa (Post 8802290)
You don't sell tickets by fielding an AHL team, which is what we are. Seriously, take out the Sedins, Burrows, Edler, Eriksson, Tanev and Miller, and we're the Utica Comets!

don't even need to take them out lol


6o4__boi 11-14-2016 11:34 AM

Speaking of Virtanen

Confirmed today that he will not be playing against NYR.

Expresso 11-14-2016 01:10 PM

Boggles the mind.

If I was Boeser, I just wait out free agency.

Ch28 11-14-2016 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8802292)
don't even need to take them out lol

https://twitter.com/JasonPHT/status/798243110111232000

http://i.imgur.com/2UROYHN.gif

Gary Oak 11-14-2016 03:34 PM

Tryamkin hit on Benn... the good Benn
https://gfycat.com/SpotlessAmbitiousBarasingha

spoon.ek9 11-14-2016 03:35 PM

a period and a half lol. excellent.

radioman 11-14-2016 03:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Oak (Post 8802353)
Tryamkin hit on Benn... the good Benn
https://gfycat.com/SpotlessAmbitiousBarasingha

I was right behind the glass on that one. Gudbranson had a couple good ones in the corner as well.

Ch28 11-14-2016 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gary Oak (Post 8802353)
Tryamkin hit on Benn... the good Benn
https://gfycat.com/SpotlessAmbitiousBarasingha

Body checked him back to Victoria :lol

Ch28 11-15-2016 02:32 AM

http://i.imgur.com/YTDwlHH.png

Benning spotted at the HHOF induction ceremony wondering what it'll take to get Eric Lindros out of retirement

m3thods 11-15-2016 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8802438)
http://i.imgur.com/YTDwlHH.png

Benning spotted at the HHOF induction ceremony wondering what it'll take to get Eric Lindros out of retirement

It really does look like the hamster wheel is on overdrive in that picture.

6o4__boi 11-15-2016 07:15 AM

Spoiler!



"Will Arizona take Stecher and Boeser for Datsyuk and Pronger? ...Should I add draft picks on top to make it a better deal?"

teggy604 11-15-2016 10:40 AM

I don't like how WD calls out JV, and benches him. It might work for some kids but I don't think it works with Jake. Let him develop his game. If you want to bench someone bench Erickson. He gets paid how much to score?

6o4__boi 11-15-2016 10:50 AM


:fulloffuck:
:derp:
:lawl:

Jmac 11-15-2016 10:54 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teggy604 (Post 8802490)
I don't like how WD calls out JV, and benches him. It might work for some kids but I don't think it works with Jake. Let him develop his game. If you want to bench someone bench Erickson. He gets paid how much to score?

Eriksson has 2 goals in the last 2 games ... Why bench him now?

AzNightmare 11-15-2016 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8802292)
don't even need to take them out lol

https://twitter.com/JasonPHT/status/798243110111232000

Not surprised though, even with their wins, they were mostly comeback wins... Feels like they have hardly played with a lead all season.

SumAznGuy 11-15-2016 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8802494)

I love Ferarro's reply.

Again, it just adds fuel to the fire.

Expresso 11-15-2016 02:08 PM

Can already seeing JV asking for a trade if not already now.

6o4__boi 11-15-2016 02:12 PM

remember when we had a respectable organization that had shitty scouts but at least knew what they were doing?

Ch28 11-15-2016 02:41 PM

Insider Trading: Canucks still keeping tabs on Evander Kane's availability

Insider Trading: Canucks still keeping tabs on Evander Kane's availability - Video - TSN

Wouldn't be surprised to see Virtanen traded for Kane.

6o4__boi 11-15-2016 02:49 PM

rumour is the Sabres want a Dman in return

We need Kane as a role model for Virtanen.
Then sign Mike Richards.

Kane-Richards-Virtanen

best "line" in hockey

Ch28 11-15-2016 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8802560)
rumour is the Sabres want a Dman in return

We need Kane as a role model for Virtanen.
Then sign Mike Richards.

Kane-Richards-Virtanen

best "line" in hockey

I'd pay to watch a reality show with those 3 just partying before and after games.

m3thods 11-15-2016 02:59 PM

I won't take credit for it because 1040 brought it up first, but would you trade Tanev for Kane (straight up)?

Note that their other points were:

1. They're similar in age (Tanev 26, Kane 25)
2. Stecher
3. Canucks rebuilding anyways so losing Tanev for potential in Kane can't go anywhere but up. Maybe sideways
4. No Big Buff to throw his Canuck tracksuit in the shower (but there is Tryamkin)

Ok the last one was me. But would you?

As I think about it more, I think I would. Team chemistry be damned.

murd0c 11-15-2016 03:08 PM

I would trade Tanev in a second for Kane no questions asked.


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