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Kilinim 11-15-2016 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by m3thods (Post 8802564)
I won't take credit for it because 1040 brought it up first, but would you trade Tanev for Kane (straight up)?

Note that their other points were:

1. They're similar in age (Tanev 26, Kane 25)
2. Stecher
3. Canucks rebuilding anyways so losing Tanev for potential in Kane can't go anywhere but up. Maybe sideways
4. No Big Buff to throw his Canuck tracksuit in the shower (but there is Tryamkin)

Ok the last one was me. But would you?

As I think about it more, I think I would. Team chemistry be damned.


No. Why give up a solid player for one who may or may not turn out decent. It's a huge gamble, one we shouldn't make.

Ch28 11-15-2016 03:36 PM

I'd do it for the simple fact that this team seems to be flush with D right now, so it makes sense to trade away from a position of strength to address a position of weakness. We'll lose a big time defender, but we'll be using him to (hopefully) address the piss poor offense this team has had over the past 2 seasons.

Mike Oxbig 11-15-2016 03:39 PM

Tanev is underrated but Canucks are a micky mouse team so they should acquire e.kane

dbaz 11-15-2016 03:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 6o4__boi (Post 8802494)

basically everyone realizes bothfords a hack so they just troll him

Nabatron 11-15-2016 04:22 PM

I would trade tanev for kane

Jmac 11-15-2016 04:31 PM

Flush with defense? Position of strength? :fulloffuck:

Can someone back these claims up with facts?

Nabatron 11-15-2016 04:37 PM

right now I think we are pretty solid with defense...by all means no stud D on defense but solid enough. If you can get a scorer for Tanev by all means do it because your not really going to get any offence from him. With the solid play with stech I know it early but still he is I think a better offensive dman then Tanev....

Ch28 11-15-2016 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8802589)
Flush with defense? Position of strength? :fulloffuck:

Can someone back these claims up with facts?

The entire team besides goaltending sucks. Offense and defense suck, but compared to each other, we're stronger on the defensive side of things

Edler
Tanev
Gudbranson
Tryamkin
Stecher
Sbisa
Hutton
Larsen
Biega
Pedan

Dealing Tanev still leaves us with a decent defense, while helping bolster our anemic offense that has held a lead for all of 30 minutes this entire season.

dbaz 11-15-2016 04:42 PM

problem is people who expect stecher to replace tanev have to realize hes played less than a dozen games. he looks promising, that's about it. he's not an immediate replacement.

d future looks alright with juuolevi, tryamkin, hutton, gudbranson, stecher, subban? + edler. yet theres really no top pairing dman there, only possible/s

JesseBlue 11-15-2016 04:44 PM

It'll be tanev and a 3rd for kane and a 4th just because

EuterVanWasser 11-15-2016 05:21 PM

^^ fck that, you know GMJB is itchy enough to throw in atleast a 2nd, if not a 1st!

jeedee 11-15-2016 05:29 PM

Tanev for Kane is a no-go for me. His defensive skills are too valuable.

I'd do Hutton+ for Kane

RiceIntegraRS 11-15-2016 05:33 PM

Id love to have E.Kane but theres no way the team will embrace his type of character and with that he will never succeed here.

Jmac 11-15-2016 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8802592)
The entire team besides goaltending sucks. Offense and defense suck, but compared to each other, we're stronger on the defensive side of things

Edler
Tanev
Gudbranson
Tryamkin
Stecher
Sbisa
Hutton
Larsen
Biega
Pedan

Dealing Tanev still leaves us with a decent defense, while helping bolster our anemic offense that has held a lead for all of 30 minutes this entire season.

Goaltending isn't anything special, either.

So far this season:
Record w/ Tanev - 4-2-1
Record w/o Tanev - 2-7-0

GAA w/ Tanev - 2.09
GAA w/o Tanev - 3.03

Sv% w/ Tanev - 92.0%
Sv% w/o Tanev - 89.5%

I fail to see how we're "stronger" on defense than we are on offense. In the 9 games without Tanev this season, we've been one of the worst defensive teams in the league. And I definitely wouldn't call this defense "decent" without Tanev.

Looking through the stats, literally every team metric is better with Tanev in the lineup.

Then looking at Kane, he's topped 50 points once in his career, hasn't topped 40 points since '13-'14, is injury prone (so's Tanev, so that's a wash), has had a history of problems with coaches and teammates, has had legal problems, social media problems, and his lifestyle paired with living in his hometown is a recipe for disaster. Also, $5.25M/year for a guy who might get 40 points ... Trading for Kane doesn't make this team better.

MG1 11-15-2016 06:06 PM

Okay, here we go......... I think Monster is going to get one tonight!

MG1 11-15-2016 06:08 PM

My usual two bits on the anthem singer..............


Not bad. No embellishment, mostly in tune - straight forward and simple. Good stuff.

MG1 11-15-2016 06:24 PM

Now this is more like it. Even if the Canucks lose this game they at least showed up. Good, honest effort............... so far.

68style 11-15-2016 07:25 PM

Why can't Henrik ever shoot when the net is half empty??????? WHY??????

highfive 11-15-2016 07:35 PM

if Larson got you hall, tanev should bag you equal quality forward. Not for Kane.

Landeskog status players

MG1 11-15-2016 08:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8802643)
Why can't Henrik ever shoot when the net is half empty??????? WHY??????

It boggles the mind why he does that shit. 1 out of 50 times something comes out of a pass. 1 out of 10 times, puck would go in if he took a shot.

Obsideon 11-15-2016 08:01 PM

Welp good night.
http://www.vancouversun.com/cms/binary/8420841.jpg

MG1 11-15-2016 08:03 PM

Let the floodgates of hell open up............


oh well............. it's par for the course.

PiuYi 11-15-2016 08:16 PM

not sure why everybody has such a hard on for evander kane, he's played like 1.5 seasons of good hockey in Winnipeg... the guy is injury prone, toxic waste in the locker room, and has terrible work ethic

if we want instant offence i'm sure there's better choices out there that won't cost us a Tanev and $6m/yr


only somebody like JB would look at that dumpster fire of a player and see "potential"

MG1 11-15-2016 08:22 PM

Vancouver has finally shaken the nickname, "No Fun City." It is now called the "No Win City."

If it weren't for the Lions this year. Even then, they're in tough with Calgary.

Jmac 11-15-2016 08:40 PM

Updated

So far this season:
Record w/ Tanev - 4-2-1
Record w/o Tanev - 2-8-0

GAA w/ Tanev - 2.09
GAA w/o Tanev - 3.44

Sv% w/ Tanev - 92.0%
Sv% w/o Tanev - 88.0%


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