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68style 11-28-2016 06:44 PM

Food for thought, people love to rag on Sbisa here but he's the only dman besides Tryamkin on our roster with a positive plus/minus

murd0c 11-28-2016 06:49 PM

and Sbisa has been playing a whole lot better this year then last year. At the end of last year he wasn't playing all that bad either.

Ch28 11-28-2016 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8805933)
And Biega becomes trade bait if another team decides they need a dman to expose.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol Alex Biega as trade bait :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

SumAznGuy 11-29-2016 08:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8805917)
What are you talking about? You know Sbisa is leading the team in +/- and has been one of our more dependable d guys all season long, right?

You do know +/- is one of those stats that doesn't carry a lot of weight.
Sbisa is a third pair guy who gets the easier match ups at home.
He plays 15 minutes a night while guys like Tanev and Edler gets 22-24 minutes against the other team's top lines as well as PK duty.

The thing that holds him back the most is his contract unless the Vegas team is willing to take on his contract. But using Arizona as an example, the team is better off taking on someone's stupid contract in exchange for draft picks. The Vegas team isn't going to be competitive through the expansion draft. They need to draft well and pick up some free agents or trade with teams looking for a salary dump.

punkwax 11-29-2016 09:14 AM

+/- carries a lot of weight in my books. It is a decent indication as to whether you are easy or hard to play against..

SumAznGuy 11-29-2016 09:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by punkwax (Post 8806046)
+/- carries a lot of weight in my books. It is a decent indication as to whether you are easy or hard to play against..

Are you saying BoHo is a bust since he had the league's worst +/-?

punkwax 11-29-2016 09:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8806048)
Are you saying BoHo is a bust since he had the league's worst +/-?

Yes. That is exactly what I'm saying.SeemsGood

6o4__boi 11-29-2016 09:47 AM

this topic has been beaten to death lol

some fun reading
http://www.arcticicehockey.com/2014/...stic-in-hockey

http://edmontonjournal.com/sports/ho...lus-minus-stat

Even Brian Burke has called it horse-shit.
With the emergence of advanced stats, plus-minus has become pretty irrelevant and is really just one of those first-glance stats that makes an impact visually but says little to nothing in reality.

MG1 11-29-2016 09:50 AM

I cannot believe this............ after all the years of following the team (pre 70's), I still look forward to watching them. Don't know what is. They suck like a Hoover, but I stlll want to watch.

Sad...........

6o4__boi 11-29-2016 09:51 AM

^ Simple. Guys like to watch sucking.

:ifyouknow:

Infiniti 11-29-2016 09:57 AM

So apparently, the Evander Kane talks have resurfaced given that the Sabres have been scouting the Utica Comets' games; this according to local media. FFS..

highfive 11-29-2016 10:06 AM

JV for EK.

20 year old for a 25 year old. Benning would say he's building the next core players. Evander fits into our targeted 22-28 group players. Evander can contribute to the team now and win. He's fast, he can shoot. etc etc..

He was a high draft pick at 4th overall. Probably better than the 6th overall JV.

lol

I can literally hear Bennings voice in talking about this trade and the reasons for it.

6o4__boi 11-29-2016 10:12 AM

Swap of problems lol

I have a feeling that if a JV trade ever happens, it'll include other pieces and draft picks. And we won't come out of it the better team.

dbaz 11-29-2016 10:30 AM

kane is basically what youd hope jv would become, yet id say theres a bit more upside in jv. but he seems to be following kane atm, with the idgaf attitude

Devastator 11-29-2016 10:39 AM

Maybe trade rumours involving JV will wake his ass up, if he still has the dream of playing for his hometown team then he better smarten up.

originalhypa 11-29-2016 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Infiniti (Post 8806059)
So apparently, the Evander Kane talks have resurfaced given that the Sabres have been scouting the Utica Comets' games; this according to local media. FFS..

Plus the Sabres are putting him on a line with Eichel and Reinhart. If that's not a power line, I don't know what is.

They're putting him in that group to showcase Kane's talents. They're actively shopping him around, and the fact that the Canucks responded to the trade rumors proves that he's still on their radar. Let's face it, we like local talent around here, and he's as local as they get.

Liquid_o2 11-29-2016 11:05 AM

JV and a 2nd rounder for Kane. Benning has it locked in :lawl:

highfive 11-29-2016 11:14 AM

more like JV +2nd for Kane + 5th. Always want a 5th rounder back in case we trade Kane later on for an old grinder because Kane has too many issues to deal with.

6o4__boi 11-29-2016 11:22 AM

Sabres looking for a dman and have named Tanev as someone they were interested in before.

Probably something to the tune of

JV + Tanev + 2nd + 3rd for EK + Reinhart +5th

highfive 11-29-2016 11:54 AM

^Fucking do that in an heartbeat.

Reinhart Bo Sutter is a good top 3 C imo.

6o4__boi 11-29-2016 12:16 PM

Thank Edmonton for setting the precedent if that deal ever happens lol
The only other thing that can be added to that would be make the 2nd or 3rd a conditional pick based on Kane's performance.

highfive 11-29-2016 12:38 PM

We will have a weakass D without Tanev though. Stetcher, Gudbranson, Trymakin. on the right side.

A look at which players are driving their team's offence - Sportsnet.ca

Good read on Bo's season so far.

Ch28 11-29-2016 01:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SumAznGuy (Post 8806048)
Are you saying BoHo is a bust since he had the league's worst +/-?

Are you stupid? :pokerface:

SumAznGuy 11-29-2016 01:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ch28 (Post 8806102)
Are you stupid? :pokerface:

http://memecrunch.com/meme/32FNL/not...r-or/image.jpg

Expresso 11-29-2016 02:02 PM

^ The irony is that SumAznGuy replies with a image and NOT Ch.28.


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