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Speed2K 07-10-2019 10:06 AM

https://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl/...cheal-ferland/

Interesting, while I don't mind having a player like Ferland, I wonder how we fit everyone in under the cap.

rsx10 07-10-2019 10:29 AM

Benning would be a god if he can unload Loui, Tim, or Suter's contacts. Hopefully it will not cost us Jake Virtanin

Hondaracer 07-10-2019 10:31 AM

Seems like we just sign all these 2nd/3rd line players in hopes we can make some patch work team and get into the playoffs..dunno about dis

Expresso 07-10-2019 10:33 AM

It's done. 4 years at $3.5M.

It's Benning's last year he's going for broke. Playoffs or bust.

Jmac 07-10-2019 11:00 AM

The price is solid assuming it doesn’t have like a full NMC or something (27-year-old power forward coming off of back-to-back 40-point seasons).

I don’t like the timing. Benning has basically backed himself into a corner now if they can’t get Boeser on a bridge deal; he’ll have to unload a contract and Benning doesn’t do well in trades even without pressure on him.

Expresso 07-10-2019 11:11 AM

Exactly, Benning is going to have zero leverage now that everyone knows we are against the cap.

Liquid_o2 07-10-2019 11:25 AM

I guess Goldobin is not coming back. With the additions of Leivo, Pearson, Miller, and now Ferland over the past 6 months... the forward group is massive. But too many players vying for the same 2nd and 3rd line roles. Benning needs to dump at least 2 forwards to clear up room, let alone cap space.

I agree that he has painted himself into a corner with all his signings. Only a few years ago we were talking about how much cap room we would have in 2019/2020 :/

Mike Oxbig 07-10-2019 11:30 AM

Ferland - Pettersson - Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Miller

Leivo-Gaudette-goldobin

Roussel-Beagle-Motte



Eriksson, Sutter, Virtanen to be traded?

Hondaracer 07-10-2019 12:06 PM

Those sutter and Erickson deals are back breakers. If we didn’t have those two there could be huge potential for other signings most likely in the D core

spoon.ek9 07-10-2019 01:00 PM

it's make it or break it for JB. let's see what happens next....

EvoFire 07-10-2019 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike Oxbig (Post 8953295)
Ferland - Pettersson - Boeser

Pearson-Horvat-Miller

Leivo-Gaudette-goldobin

Roussel-Beagle-Motte



Eriksson, Sutter, Virtanen to be traded?

I think I rather Virtanen than Goldobin on the 3rd line, and maybe swap Leivo and Pearson around.

There has to be something going on in the background that we are not privy to.

Benning can't be THAT clueless, or am I giving him too much credit.

Jmac 07-10-2019 03:13 PM

Virtanen was a better player than Goldobin last year. Not sure why Goldobin would be in the lineup over Shotgun Jake.

68style 07-10-2019 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Expresso (Post 8953288)
Exactly, Benning is going to have zero leverage now that everyone knows we are against the cap.

Everyone knew the Lightning were over the cap and they still got a first for JT Miller :alone:

BlackV62K2 07-10-2019 04:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 68style (Post 8953334)
Everyone knew the Lightning were over the cap and they still got a first for JT Miller :alone:

Because we are Canucks.....

bobbinka 07-10-2019 04:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by EvoFire (Post 8953318)

There has to be something going on in the background that we are not privy to.

Benning can't be THAT clueless, or am I giving him too much credit.

Boeser at $1m/yr for 8 years

cdizzle_996 07-10-2019 05:06 PM

Once Loui’s bonus is paid out on July 15th, he’s owed 9m over the next 3.. shouldn’t be that hard to move.

RiceIntegraRS 07-10-2019 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cdizzle_996 (Post 8953342)
Once Loui’s bonus is paid out on July 15th, he’s owed 9m over the next 3.. shouldn’t be that hard to move.

Sounds like a Meylnk special right there. Or any other team just trying to spend to the cap floor

F3 07-10-2019 06:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Liquid_o2 (Post 8953293)
I guess Goldobin is not coming back. With the additions of Leivo, Pearson, Miller, and now Ferland over the past 6 months... the forward group is massive. But too many players vying for the same 2nd and 3rd line roles. Benning needs to dump at least 2 forwards to clear up room, let alone cap space.

I agree that he has painted himself into a corner with all his signings. Only a few years ago we were talking about how much cap room we would have in 2019/2020 :/

So much for "weaponizing" cap space

highfive 07-10-2019 07:48 PM

I would keep sutter. You need centres and never have enough. Imagine if beagle got injured, bo would go back playing more d and matchups and he can’t focus as much on scoring.

I heard baerschti would be traded if anything.

nah 07-10-2019 09:10 PM

Look how well Toronto did to get out of CAP hell. They have a CAP guru, Laurence Gilman, the same guy that Benning fired. Benning is such an idiot, that he probably doesn't know what 1+2 is. We need this guy fired this year and we can start fresh with a pretty decent core already in place.

AzNightmare 07-11-2019 11:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nah (Post 8953356)
Look how well Toronto did to get out of CAP hell. They have a CAP guru, Laurence Gilman, the same guy that Benning fired. Benning is such an idiot, that he probably doesn't know what 1+2 is. We need this guy fired this year and we can start fresh with a pretty decent core already in place.

Until the next idiot GM comes and tears it apart... lol.
Seems like we're always stuck with a revolving door of idiots.

Jmac 07-11-2019 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AzNightmare (Post 8953415)
Until the next idiot GM comes and tears it apart... lol.
Seems like we're always stuck with a revolving door of idiots.

We went from Quinn (good) to Keenan (bad) to Burke (good) to Nonis (bad) to Gillis (good) and now Benning (bad), mainly because of shitty ownership.

Quinn fired for disagreeing with ownership (Gretzky, Messier contracts, not wanting to perform both roles as GM and head coach)
Burke fired* for Bertuzzi incident, playoff record (*didn't have contract renewed)
Gillis fired for disagreeing with ownership (AV firing, Torts hiring, style of play)

Even Linden was "mutually parted ways" because of disagreements with ownership.

Meanwhile, Aquaman continues to be vocally enamoured via social media with Benning and the team's future despite a complete lack of success over the past 4 seasons (only successful season was when the team was still 80% the team he inherited).

To put things into perspective, Gillis had already won 2 Presidents' Trophies, 5 division titles, and had a trip to the Stanley Cup Finals at this point in his tenure ... and would be fired in less than a calendar year. Burke had turned around a dumpster fire franchise absolutely bleeding money into an extremely successful franchise that played an uptempo, exciting style of hockey (in the height of the clutch & grab era) and one of the league's most profitable teams ... and would be fired in less than a calendar year.

highfive 07-11-2019 05:33 PM

I wouldn't really say Burke was good. He pissed away as many 2nd rounders as Benning has.

Aside from the Sedins trade, the best trade he did was for Salo.

Problem is that NHL is still very much either the old boys club or the new "ANALYTICS" crew.

There is no gold standard on how to run a franchise. People go oh look at the Golden Knights! Shit McPhee traded forsberg for erat.

Actually, I feel David Poile is probably my opinion of gold standard but shit they haven't won anything.

nah 07-11-2019 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jmac (Post 8953444)

Meanwhile, Aquaman continues to be vocally enamoured via social media with Benning and the team's future despite a complete lack of success over the past 4 seasons (only successful season was when the team was still 80% the team he inherited).

It's because Benning is a puppet and allows Aquaman to run the show.

Does anyone know if the Canucks are making money with the CAD$ being so low to the USD$ and paying the players in USD$?

nah 07-11-2019 09:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by highfive (Post 8953454)
I wouldn't really say Burke was good. He pissed away as many 2nd rounders as Benning has.

Aside from the Sedins trade, the best trade he did was for Salo.

Problem is that NHL is still very much either the old boys club or the new "ANALYTICS" crew.

There is no gold standard on how to run a franchise. People go oh look at the Golden Knights! Shit McPhee traded forsberg for erat.

Actually, I feel David Poile is probably my opinion of gold standard but shit they haven't won anything.

For gold standard look at Yzerman, Ken Holland, Ray Shero, Jim Rutherford. Edmonton will be contending in no time with Holland running the show.


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