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Meowjin 07-19-2012 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7979496)
Then you're doing it wrong.

Either that, or you're proving rr's point perfectly

no i'm doing it right. My form is actually very good.

I'm just saying I don't want to make one error when lifting heavy and throw out my back, especially when im doing alot of my exercises standing to strengthen my core.

Meowjin 07-19-2012 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by JSilver (Post 7979805)
Post a vid. If you're concerned about your safety use pegs.

I will on my next leg day.

It could be that I also neglected deadlifts and maybe my form isn't the best with that. I use to work out with a friend that did sports medicine but he moved out to langley so I have noone to correct my form.

Meowjin 07-19-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by red_sir (Post 7979962)
Maxed out on squats today. Thought my technique was good at the time, but watching the video there are still lots of things I need to work on. I think I need to stay more upright and spread the knees more to get better depth. Thoughts?

Squat Form Check - YouTube

hey damn, I've worked out in your vicinity before. I'll say hi to you next time I workout with you.

instant: It's thompson.

Matlock 07-19-2012 03:59 PM

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Originally Posted by red_sir (Post 7979962)
Maxed out on squats today. Thought my technique was good at the time, but watching the video there are still lots of things I need to work on. I think I need to stay more upright and spread the knees more to get better depth. Thoughts?

How much weight is that? I count 4 plates + smaller ones on each side. Holy crap I have trouble deadlifting 4 plates.
Good stuff.

spideyv2 07-19-2012 04:00 PM

if you're experiencing pain while doing a certain exercise, you're probably doing it wrong. either that, or you just aren't cut out for that workout in the first place.

instantneedles 07-19-2012 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7979977)
you're not using your hips at all it seems :ahwow:

IMO go down in weight (like, a lot) and work on your form (a lot)

Another case against dat dere belt. It is cheating you out of a proper squat, and instead of getting bigger and stronger, you are just able to add more and more weight. If that's your intention, there's nothing wrong with that of course.

By the looks of it, he seems to be working on strength and hence the 1RM... But imo i don't think its the belt that's hindering his performance, if he holds back from the weight just a tad bit, maybe like 70-80% of what he's doing right now, the belt will help. But then again, if you're working on 1RM or powerlifting then just disregard what i just said. Solid lift though man.

I was looking thru some of mark's vids from gold's gym and this is a pretty good example of the type of form you should be aiming for. Notice how his back is pretty straight throughout the squat, and only arches slightly and he has a pretty good hip drive going.


hud 91gt 07-19-2012 04:24 PM

His weight is completely on his toes. Pretend all you have is heels and see if you can still do that. Next time, slap a low bench, or stool (I stack a few of those aerobics bench's under, you can make it whatever height you like) underneath your ass, take a soft seat, hold it and stand straight back up, pushing only through your heels.. That's the form you want. I suggest trying it with half the weight first though :p

XplicitLuder 07-19-2012 04:29 PM

@jordan : i have a blackberry lawl

well felt good to actually write shit down and see the stuff you did later on in the day, lets see how it goes as the week goes by :D

red_sir 07-19-2012 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7979977)
you're not using your hips at all it seems :ahwow:

IMO go down in weight (like, a lot) and work on your form (a lot)

Thanks for... nothing lol. EVERYBODY can drop the weight and work on form. NOBODY will have perfect form on a 1rm. I am testing my max to see where my form breaks down first so I can work on those things. If you see specific problems with my form please point out how I should correct them.


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Originally Posted by SkinnyPupp (Post 7979977)
Another case against dat dere belt. It is cheating you out of a proper squat, and instead of getting bigger and stronger, you are just able to add more and more weight. If that's your intention, there's nothing wrong with that of course.

That is retarded. How is a belt cheating me out of a proper squat? I've only used a belt for 3 squat sessions now. It has not altered the way I squat. If I have techique problems they were there long before the belt came along.

Phozy 07-19-2012 04:38 PM

^Started a workout journal, never will i not use one...

red_sir 07-19-2012 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Meowjin (Post 7979984)
hey damn, I've worked out in your vicinity before. I'll say hi to you next time I workout with you.

instant: It's thompson.

Cool, maybe we can workout together sometime too. Always nice to have someone to train with.

red_sir 07-19-2012 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Matlock (Post 7979986)
How much weight is that? I count 4 plates + smaller ones on each side. Holy crap I have trouble deadlifting 4 plates.
Good stuff.

425, failed on 450, and 440.

red_sir 07-19-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by instantneedles (Post 7980003)
By the looks of it, he seems to be working on strength and hence the 1RM... But imo i don't think its the belt that's hindering his performance, if he holds back from the weight just a tad bit, maybe like 70-80% of what he's doing right now, the belt will help. But then again, if you're working on 1RM or powerlifting then just disregard what i just said. Solid lift though man.

I was looking thru some of mark's vids from gold's gym and this is a pretty good example of the type of form you should be aiming for. Notice how his back is pretty straight throughout the squat, and only arches slightly and he has a pretty good hip drive going.

2012 CBBF ELITE CHALLENGE-MARK LOO-AKA QUADZILLA-91/2 WEEKS OUT! - YouTube

Damn that's a solid squat. He squatting high bar so he's able to keep a straighter back. But even though I'm low bar, I think my squat should look more like his than the way it looks right now lol.

JSilver 07-19-2012 04:51 PM

Zero hip-thrust

JSilver 07-19-2012 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by instantneedles (Post 7980003)

Ahhh he's still their eh. He gives good pointers if you ask. You'll have trouble finding this guy at the gym sometimes if ya know what I mean.

:lawl:

red_sir 07-19-2012 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JSilver (Post 7980037)
Zero hip-thrust

And I can fix that by...

instantneedles 07-19-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JSilver (Post 7980042)
Ahhh he's still their eh. He gives good pointers if you ask. You'll have trouble finding this guy at the gym sometimes if ya know what I mean.

:lawl:

:lawl: nah, he might be a bit on the shorter side, but the guy's fuckin huge, not hard at all to spot him

instantneedles 07-19-2012 05:44 PM

it's funny how there's never any positive comments regarding form whenever someone posts a video. lol. ppl need to know what they're doing right sometimes to change what they're doing wrong, cus otherwise they might change everything altogether

I personally like the depth that ur going with ur squats, ass to grass, don't change that..
The stance is a good position for you as its shoulder width and a bit more apart..
And also remember, redsir is like less than 190lb if i remember correctly? and hes squatting like more than four plates from standing to below knee depth... With or without belt (not like it'll make a ton of difference) that is pretty impressive

red_sir 07-19-2012 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by instantneedles (Post 7980083)
it's funny how there's never any positive comments regarding form whenever someone posts a video. lol. ppl need to know what they're doing right sometimes to change what they're doing wrong, cus otherwise they might change everything altogether

I personally like the depth that ur going with ur squats, ass to grass, don't change that..
The stance is a good position for you as its shoulder width and a bit more apart..
And also remember, redsir is like less than 190lb if i remember correctly? and hes squatting like more than four plates from standing to below knee depth... With or without belt (not like it'll make a ton of difference) that is pretty impressive

Haha thanks instant. I don't mind the lack of positive comments, but some constructive criticism/tips would be nice. There's definitely some knowledgable people in here, but the problem is there are also lots that have just read a few articles and watched some Rippetoe videos and all of a sudden think they're experts.

Anyway, yeah I think my stance is a good width too. I use to squat a bit wider, I definitely felt like I recruited more of the posterior chain that way but it was also painful on the hip flexors. Eventually I tried switching to a narrow stance and using more quad (i think) and I feel more explosive; I have more power out of the hole.

Before I used to try to lead with the hips and use "hip drive." But watching more powerlifting videos it seems you really want to stay upright and lead with the head out of the bottom. Trying to lead with the hip for me usually leads to a squat morning. I think that's why I missed the lift in the video too.
Sigh, I don't know, I have so many questions... but I don't think I'll find the answers here lol.

JSilver 07-19-2012 06:36 PM

I wasn't trying to be a dick. But I personally think you're overall lift looks fine but your lacking hip-thrust in my opinion to complete that push from the mid point.

A power lifter at my gym also taught me to tug the bar down against your traps while thrusting your traps into the bar and pushing your heels through the earth. You probably already know this as you lift very heavy to begin with. And if it helps, look up, lead with the head. I know many say not to as it may strain your neck but try it.

My personal experience.

... Now I feel like squating.

EDIT: Just realized you mentioned some of the stuff I just pointed out lol.

EDIT: red_sir record another video but get your friend to film from the side where we can actually see your legs. I feel as though you're breaking from the knees first than your actual hip sitting back. Could be the problem?

JSilver 07-19-2012 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by instantneedles (Post 7980067)
:lawl: nah, he might be a bit on the shorter side, but the guy's fuckin huge, not hard at all to spot him

Can't remember his name but there's this really cocky (Or once was) white guy with Chinese letter on his back that actually use to rip it up. Comes in with this hot ass brunette chick all the time. He still there?

red_sir 07-19-2012 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by JSilver (Post 7980125)
I wasn't trying to be a dick. But I personally think you're overall lift looks fine but your lacking hip-thrust in my opinion to complete that push from the mid point.

A power lifter at my gym also taught me to tug the bar down against your traps while thrusting your traps into the bar and pushing your heels through the earth. You probably already know this as you lift very heavy to begin with. And if it helps, look up, lead with the head. I know many say not to as it may strain your neck but try it.

My personal experience.

... Now I feel like squating.

EDIT: Just realized you mentioned some of the stuff I just pointed out lol.

Thanks man, I understand what you mean now. I'm starting to think I am hamstring weak and my quads are taking over to finish the lift.

hal0g0dv2 07-19-2012 06:52 PM

nice lift

instantneedles 07-19-2012 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by JSilver (Post 7980134)
Can't remember his name but there's this really cocky (Or once was) white guy with Chinese letter on his back that actually use to rip it up. Comes in with this hot ass brunette chick all the time. He still there?

hmm, what does he usually wear? i'm sure mike would probably know haha haven't worked out there long enough to know the ppl there

instantneedles 07-19-2012 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by red_sir (Post 7980106)
Haha thanks instant. I don't mind the lack of positive comments, but some constructive criticism/tips would be nice. There's definitely some knowledgable people in here, but the problem is there are also lots that have just read a few articles and watched some Rippetoe videos and all of a sudden think they're experts.

Anyway, yeah I think my stance is a good width too. I use to squat a bit wider, I definitely felt like I recruited more of the posterior chain that way but it was also painful on the hip flexors. Eventually I tried switching to a narrow stance and using more quad (i think) and I feel more explosive; I have more power out of the hole.

Before I used to try to lead with the hips and use "hip drive." But watching more powerlifting videos it seems you really want to stay upright and lead with the head out of the bottom. Trying to lead with the hip for me usually leads to a squat morning. I think that's why I missed the lift in the video too.
Sigh, I don't know, I have so many questions... but I don't think I'll find the answers here lol.


Unfortunately for me, I've always had to revert back to wide stance squats cus my knees just can't take it. I can squat 3 plates and 25 with wide stance, but not even 2 plate for narrow cus my left knee just buckles.. it fuckin sucks... its also the reason why my right quad is 2 inches bigger than my left... i got it measured and im like :fulloffuck:


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