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m3thods 03-05-2014 03:32 PM
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Originally Posted by FS1992EG (Post 8429409)
I am looking for management to look at that draft and make deals to aquire a higher draft position.

Playing like shit doesn't make our players highly valuable. It decreases their value.
They won't get the number 1 pick unless they win the lottery. The Canucks have no Crosby waiting in the minors to trade in a package for the 2015 number 1 pick. And MG can offer to trade the entire team to whoever holds the number 1 pick in 2015. He's not going to get it.

Mike Oxbig 03-05-2014 03:37 PM
Tank it.... we still have a chance to make it to bottom 5.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_NHL_Entry_Draft

MG1 03-05-2014 04:40 PM
Too bad we can't trade owners, LOL.

nah 03-05-2014 04:57 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8429443)
Too bad we can't trade owners, LOL.
From one owner that didn't do enough and was a shadow to the fans to one that meddles in the day to day operations.

Why can't we have one that's just a fan and lets the hockey people they hire do their job? :yuno:

Iceman-19 03-05-2014 05:57 PM
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Originally Posted by FS1992EG (Post 8429347)
Kesler somehow went from god status/captain material to a useless and overrated guy who should be on the first plane out of town after the season. Edler, top 10 in dman points during the regular season, is everybodys new favourite scapegoat and apparently a completely worthless defenseman.

Vancouver has the worst fans in the nhl. Yea... we care about hockey, and we are passioniate, but we are also high maintenance, stuck up, and un-supportive. We are the only team in the playoffs who goes dead silent when losing, and boo's our own team instead of cheering like crazy to try to swing momentum if its not going their way.
Who said he was useless and over-rated? We wanted to trade him because his stock is high, he has a wicked contract and we can get a good return of younger players.

UFO 03-05-2014 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by XplicitLuder (Post 8429298)
They wanna push to make playoffs and they think they can with Kesler. But makes no sense when trading luongo basically says we are going to rebuild.
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As mentioned it can be a pretty quick rebuild... Canucks went from spending almost 10M cap hit on their goalies to well under half of that. I don't think Aquaman or MG really think they can make any noise in the playoffs, IF they make it, but if they do at least its 2 guaranteed home games worth of revenue. But then again they did have to blow out their playoff tickets last year to get them to sell... Then they liberate Kesler in the summer and get say a prospect and roster player back to get younger and once again save some money. Creates some space on the roster for up and comers too

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Originally Posted by nah (Post 8429333)
Schneider was a proven commodity.
We can say that now, maybe, but that's debateable as well last season when the trade was made. What if Schneider went the way of Dubnyk, or any number of young goalies who showed promise in their first year or two and then completely fell apart. Should also note Schneider started this season fairly slow, but his game seems to have come back.

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Originally Posted by FS1992EG (Post 8429347)
We are the only team in the playoffs who goes dead silent when losing, and boo's our own team instead of cheering like crazy to try to swing momentum if its not going their way.
Sounds like you've only seen games in Vancouver

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Originally Posted by FS1992EG (Post 8429394)
I am only interested in one player. Connor McDavid!
So what if going all in for McDavid fails and some other team gets him?

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Originally Posted by FS1992EG (Post 8429400)
Dreaming is apart of life...If you give up on your dreams, wtf is the point?
If the Canucks win the cup, my dreams will come true!!one111!!!!one Then I will still have to go to work the next day, do the dishes at home, get raped at the gas station, etc etc. I'll save my dreams for things other than 'entertainment' that the Canucks are supposed to provide, kthxbye

UFO 03-05-2014 06:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman-19 (Post 8429474)
Who said he was useless and over-rated? We wanted to trade him because his stock is high, he has a wicked contract and we can get a good return of younger players.
And the minor detail of him not wanting to play here...

Mike Oxbig 03-05-2014 06:16 PM
Lol will the NHL even let Vancouver to take the 1st overall for McDavid, if we are consider bottom 3 team next season?

Tim Budong 03-05-2014 06:31 PM
Whatever it is...this "rebuild" isn't happening until GMMG is gone. Rebuild, beginning with Management

Jmac 03-05-2014 07:04 PM
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Originally Posted by UFO (Post 8429481)
As mentioned it can be a pretty quick rebuild... Canucks went from spending almost 10M cap hit on their goalies to well under half of that. I don't think Aquaman or MG really think they can make any noise in the playoffs, IF they make it, but if they do at least its 2 guaranteed home games worth of revenue. But then again they did have to blow out their playoff tickets last year to get them to sell... Then they liberate Kesler in the summer and get say a prospect and roster player back to get younger and once again save some money. Creates some space on the roster for up and comers too



We can say that now, maybe, but that's debateable as well last season when the trade was made. What if Schneider went the way of Dubnyk, or any number of young goalies who showed promise in their first year or two and then completely fell apart. Should also note Schneider started this season fairly slow, but his game seems to have come back.



Sounds like you've only seen games in Vancouver


So what if going all in for McDavid fails and some other team gets him?


If the Canucks win the cup, my dreams will come true!!one111!!!!one Then I will still have to go to work the next day, do the dishes at home, get raped at the gas station, etc etc. I'll save my dreams for things other than 'entertainment' that the Canucks are supposed to provide, kthxbye
Dubnyk was never comparable to Schneider nor was he ever considered proven nor did he ever show promise.

Schneider has been a top goalie at every level of hockey he has ever played at, including the NHL. 3 consecutive seasons of .927 SV% or better including 1 as a starter and the other two as a heavily-played backup. Besides the stats, many goaltending experts have proclaimed him as the most technically-sound goaltender in the league.

And what slow start? He's allowed more than 3 goals TWICE this season and one of those games was 2 days ago and the other was in late-December.

m3thods 03-05-2014 07:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Earl (Post 8429488)
Lol will the NHL even let Vancouver to take the 1st overall for McDavid, if we are consider bottom 3 team next season?
lol this. The Count will get his way and Vancouver will not get the first overall pick.

MG1 03-05-2014 08:08 PM
Just think of all the local talent that we could have had over the years. Fuck these euro and russian players. Put together a team of hard hitting Canadians, LOLOLOL. A true "Canucks" team.

Also, a winning team does not have to be full of highly paid stars and first rounders. Just look at the Seahawks. Guts and determination. Not a single first round draft pick or a player who has Superbowl experience. I'm not into NFL football, but it seems the team was the little engine that could.

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“It’s such a blessing,” Sherman said after all the furor died down. “It’s such an unbelievable opportunity for a bunch of nobodies. A bunch of guys who … fifth-rounders, sixth-rounders, undrafted. Guys who have come together like a family and played for one another. It’s a fairytale story that you really couldn’t write any better.”
Would love to see that here in Vancouver.

JesseBlue 03-05-2014 08:15 PM
Wouldn't it be funny if the florida franchise moves to seattle...lou will be shutting us out every game..,
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Jmac 03-05-2014 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by JesseBlue (Post 8429552)
Wouldn't it be funny if the florida franchise moves to seattle...lou will be shutting us out every game..,
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Seattle is more likely to get an expansion team.

Expansion fees >>>>>> relocation fees

Relocations will likely go to less affluent markets, not billionaire-rich Washington state.

MG1 03-05-2014 08:30 PM
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Originally Posted by JesseBlue (Post 8429552)
Wouldn't it be funny if the florida franchise moves to seattle...lou will be shutting us out every game..,
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Bwahahahahahahaha............ luigi's precious, spoilt little wifey would just lose it, LOLOLOLOLOL.

Trade palm trees for Sequoia's.

Armind 03-05-2014 08:51 PM

Mike Oxbig 03-05-2014 08:53 PM
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Originally Posted by darthchilli (Post 8429500)
Whatever it is...this "rebuild" isn't happening until GMMG is gone. Rebuild, beginning with Management
I still remember you saying you will get a [NHLteam] Luongo jersey if he gets traded.

:accepted:

m3thods 03-05-2014 09:31 PM
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Originally Posted by MG1 (Post 8429542)
Just think of all the local talent that we could have had over the years. Fuck these euro and russian players. Put together a team of hard hitting Canadians, LOLOLOL. A true "Canucks" team.

Also, a winning team does not have to be full of highly paid stars and first rounders. Just look at the Seahawks. Guts and determination. Not a single first round draft pick or a player who has Superbowl experience. I'm not into NFL football, but it seems the team was the little engine that could.



Would love to see that here in Vancouver.
Unfortunately we don't have any elite superstars like Richard Sherman making Richard Sherman money. Better yet, we don't have a leader like Russell Wilson making Russel Wilson money. You could say the same about Earl Thomas, and....

I think you catch my drift. The 'Hawks are blessed with elite players are bargain prices. For the Canucks to get that, we need to draft and develop our young players to become stars in their entry level deals.

Oh wait..

Tim Budong 03-05-2014 10:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Big Earl (Post 8429579)
I still remember you saying you will get a [NHLteam] Luongo jersey if he gets traded.

:accepted:
u'll see

the home panthers jersey isn't all that bad

stuff99 03-05-2014 10:13 PM
THIS is how you make a trade:

stuff99 03-05-2014 10:30 PM
Fun fact: Hodgson has almost as much points this season as Zack Kassian does his entire NHL career so far.
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Ch28 03-05-2014 10:34 PM
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Originally Posted by stuff99 (Post 8429657)
Fun fact: Hodgson has almost as much points this season as Zack Kassian does his entire NHL career so far.
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In for "but he's a power forward and they take longer to develop!!!!!"
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fliptuner 03-05-2014 10:43 PM
Pfftt...Kass has like 6 times more PIM though :troll:

stuff99 03-05-2014 10:54 PM
There's our secondary scoring plus what we want to trade Kesler for... a young skilled centre.

Noir 03-05-2014 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Iceman-19 (Post 8429474)
Who said he was useless and over-rated? We wanted to trade him because his stock is high, he has a wicked contract and we can get a good return of younger players.

So.... sounds like he's the type of player we should be courting and retaining.

This is why I'm surprised why out of 2 players that wanted out, we are more eager to ditch Kesler than we were Luongo; We have/had 2 goalies who could put the same numbers as Luongo could; whereas Kesler, we're trading for "hopefulls" for someone who's arleady a sure thing.


Anyhow, I understand why Luongo is the last straw for some but for me, if Kesler goes... that'll be my personal line on the ground. No matter who we get back for Kesler, until we get rid of the Sedins and the culture they've cultivated within the team... re-tooling and/or rebuilding will yield little to no difference into the type of team we are, and will be IMO.

This team needs some nastiness; and a little bit of crazy here and there. As a fan, one can only hope. :/


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