Is he really worth all this drama?

I'm kind of interested in seeing how good of a player he is. I never followed his games or his stats. I just know everyone says he's really good and he is the missing puzzle for the Canucks, so I have no doubt not to believe so...

Sundin, look at his stats, hes a point a game player thru out his career. Look at which players he played with when he was in Toronto Maple Leafs, I think If he does sign with Canucks, it wont hurt us. PLUS we have wellwood ;) haha

http://blogs.denverpost.com/avs/2008.../sundin-or-no/

Sundin has a crazy backhand. And he shoots from anywhere with his large arsenal of shots, so that will help our PP.

Flyers and Hawks will need to clear ALOT of cap space to get sundin... unless he takes a discount.

its not just the fact that hes a good player
him joining the canucks will allow our second line to generate more goals

if sundin does sign, he'll be on the first line
probably with wellwood and bernier
this makes the sedins and demitra the second line, which would be good for us

our opponent's checking line will be going after our top line
this leaves the second line to deal with second line, which won't be hard checking, giving the sedins and demitra more opportunities to score

of course this is just speculation, but think about how awesome our lines would be

^ Agreed.

Plus as we saw in Toronto, Sundin will still kickass even if he has shitty linemates.

Doesn't Sundin signing here make it harder for us to re-sign a lot of players who's contracts are up at the end of this season? Off the top of my head I can think of about 6 or so players who are UFA or RFA this coming summer.

Sundin is a team player too. Someone that puts the team first. I don't see him having a problem fitting in.

And as per the cap for next year, it does make things more difficult. However we're probably going to unload pyatt and maybe someone else (well more like have to).

http://www.nhlnumbers.com/overview.p...AN&season=0809

At the end of the season the twins, Pylon, Burrows, Jaffray, Ouellet, Krog, Ohlund, Davidson, Nycholat, Baumgartner, Sanford, and Pettinger are UFA's.
O'Brien, Hansen, Rypien, Brown, Wellwood, and Bernier are RFA's.

We know Pettinger is gone, so his salary is freed up for next year. I do hope they let Pylon go as his current contract is $1.575 mill.
I think the last i heard, there was talk that the cap might go down for next year, in which case I would like to see how Gillis is going to resign the twins and Burrows.

say no to Sundin!!!!!

What would you suggest? Going for Gabby?

canucks havent lost 5 in a row since 2003

wait it out and hope for the best? we are still first in the div.

if we are still a contender at the trade deadline, send schneider and some picks somewhere for someone that wont cost $10 fucking million dollars who probably wont play next year because he cant make up his mind if he even wants to play THIS year. as much as we all want to love schneider as our future, he isnt going to hang around the moose forever and hes going to be way too good to play 10 games a season behind luongo.

low long is it going to take sundin at his age to get into game shape if he decides to come back at christmas?

we dont have cap room to resign the sedins and company next year and sign sundin. the cap will probably go down next year as revenue will be going down as the economy is struggling

we arent winning the cup this year with or without sundin. so why screw up the chemistry of a really good group of developing young guys with a 1.5 season 15million rental player who definitely will have some demands in the locker room.


plus, who wants an attention whore like sundin anyways? hes had 6 months to make up his mind and every time he comes out with a statement its a "maybe i might consider thinking about playing at some point." you either play or you dont. gillis embarrassed himself and the canucks with the $20m offer and sundin embarrassed gillis and the canucks with saying "meh" to it. the offer should have been taken off the table at the start of training camp. sundin has spent too much time in the Toronto media circus and it appears as tho he loves it.

I thought sundin is only interested in a one year deal

1.) Trading Schneider before Luongo is re-signed would be a dumb move. We can possibly get a 'rental' player now without losing any assets.

2.) There is no chemistry on the second line - look at how much they've produced. Plus we have the cap space (at least this year) so why not use it.

As has been mentioned sundins contract will be pro-rated so even if he does join us we will still have cap space this year. Sundins not only a huge addition on the ice but also off in terms of leadership, he would be innvaluable to young players development.

As well personally i think if Sundin signs a 2 year deal the twins will almost certainly take a large hometown discount, personally i think people are nuts for thinking they would want upwards of 5 million a peice, i think they would almost certainly lock in on a longer term 4.5-5 million dollar deal which would be an absolute steal in terms of performance.

Sundin would never come to a team if he didnt feel he could perform at his highest level and contribute quality minutes to the team, im sure he's in fine playing shape even at this point and a vet like him knows exactly what it takes to keep up with the pace.

If anything he is yes a short term fix, but it's the best posible bandaid for our team at this point and could only help us progress into an elite team quicker then we would otherwise.

could it be possible?
Gaborik and Sundin together with the nucks?

No, we don't have the cap space, plus I don't think we need both.

I would play the twins with Demitra. Other line I would play Wellwood with Sundin and Bernier or Raymond. Burrow/Kesler/Hansen line stays the same and the Johnson/Hortichuck/Borwn/Rypien line is fine.

But the Nuck's need to decide to keep one and trade the other (Bernier/Raymond) and trade Pyatt for a bag of pucks.

YES then we get Hossa in the offseason and trade Sedins for Kovalchuk.

Gaborik Sundin Hossa

Kovalchuk Demitra

Luongo

Fatigue off, line changes off. NHL09 Cup is ours.

Oh, like what articles? Found this one, it's like two weeks old...
http://www.theprovince.com/Sports/Se...009/story.html

Wonder if he talked to Gillis at all? I'm sure we could trade someone for Gabby, even if he is injured... Pyatt could be an impact player for the Wild :haha

I would take up Sundin for a year but is he worth the price he's asking?

lol line changes off that means we only play 1st, so kovie and demitra are injured reserves :)