we need covid-19 to eliminate some idiots like going on party close social gathering
.....FailFish

Like I said on a previous page, getting flu like symptoms and living doesn’t mean much when you’ve foreclosed on your house and you’re in the streets.

Even getting relief, wayyyy more people are going to be absolutely desimated financially than they will get terribly ill.

I do irrigation (construct, repair, service, etc) for a landscaping/ground maintenance company, doing mostly commercial and city contract work. It isn't really essential, yet social distancing has been very easy to do. My current project is a city park, one of the very places Dr. Henry encourages people to visit. These blanket rules for the lowest common denominator could put me out of work soon.

I guess with a loose interpretation it could fit under #13 or #28. If my boss really wanted to try and work around it, he could go with #71, since he keeps horses on the property.

You don't own a leased vehicle anyways. Call the dealer and ask them what they want you to do but why would they want it back? Nobody should be out doing stuff like buying a car at that point anyways so it'll just sit there.

It's easy to say "shut it all down boys!" but in reality too many people would get fucked over. This is bad, but it's not the fucking Walking Dead out there quite yet. The responsible people will go to work, follow the rules and go home after, and the assholes will congregate, laugh it off and go hang out with their buddies after work. They will do that either way, making everyone lose their job won't stop them.

The end of this will be very interesting.

If 200,000,300,000,400,000 people, hell even a million people die from this world wide and the government’s of the world don’t change drastically, the next tine this happens or anything even close people are not going to give two fucks.

There’s no way in hell Somone is gonna shut their business down and lose their life savings, livelihood etc. If the governments don’t address the root causes and plan better for the future

$50,000 fine? Fine me fuck it I’m ruined.

Coz there are barely enough to go around as it is. I have places order for reusable mask (the cotton one you see some asian star wearing) you can also slip a n95 filter underneath which I also order a ton of filter. That way I can just reuse the mask and the filter can be use for 3 to 5 days each.
I also have lvl1 and lvl2 mask which I don't mind donating hospital but friend who is a nurse said she doesn't need them. Honestly though I got for the surgical mask $50 a box for 50 isn't too expensive currently (at least that's the price I paid for mine) now they are up to $70 to $90+ depends where you order them.
Some people have said wearing mask is useless. For me is pretty useful because I tend to touch my nose/face all the time. So having a mask actually prevents me from touching my face and nose. I also been using thin leather gloves whenever I go out. I can just use rubbing alochol to wipe it after so is pretty safe.

If only the virus targeted those with smaller less-functioning brains. If only...

Ford, GM, and tesla are manufacturing respirators.
3M has ramped up production 30% to 100 million n95 masks/month.
Honeywell is also drastically increasing production, among many other companies.
The fda just approved a 45 minute covid test.

Government intervention is not necessary and may in fact harm these markets which are necessary to combat this.
Their private sector is stepping forward. And i think we're about to see the proficiency of the forces of capitalism.

It's a stupid argument. No lock-down and leaving this virus unchecked will eventually decimate any healthcare system, once that happens society really starts to crumble bit by bit.

Unless you actually order the healthcare system to ignore anyone with covid-19 but then you're going to risk riots, protests and a bunch of other shit.

Once this dies down how loyal do you think a workforce will be when the owner just very clearly put short-term profits above their health and safety?

https://globalnews.ca/news/6722164/d...EVxhR-2gKRGUpY

I have a friend who was at that convention and is disregarding the self isolation... Ppl just wont listen

Shame them on social media, report them if you can? I dont know, do something. This person could potentially kill someone's grandma/grandpa, think about that for a second.

You should give your friend a punch in the face and report them.

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Or maybe he gets fined.

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I think Trump is a clown for most of the time, but I'm going to agree with him on the decision of not taking further drastic measures.

The reason is simple... what's good to eradicate this virus if the cost is a depression where hundred of thousands, if not millions of families are going to suffer?

People on the opposite side of the argument have a huge flaw in their argument: once this virus is contained, everything would come back to normal.

The truth is that it's not. Until we find the cure and a vaccine for it, the virus is merely suppressed. It only take one careless dude to bring havoc to the country or even the world all over again. And what do you do by then? Another country-wide shutdown to stop the spread? Let's suppose that's the truth. What is a business going to do? They are not going back to fire at all cylinders... they would be cautious on spending every dime. So will the people because god knows when the next outbreak comes.

This would ultimately lead to deflation, which is what the Fed is trying to combat now. It's the opposite of inflation, and far worse... when cash grows in value over time. Not that it's producing any value by investing, it's simply the purchasing power increases over time and things become cheaper on an absolute dollar term.

The getting cheaper part might sound great at first, but when EVERYONE in the economy stop spending, the economy ceases to function. If a dollar gets you 1 banana today and 2 bananas next week, you'd wait unless you are terribly in need of banana. But it would reach a point where banana growers simply stop to grow any more bananas. Because he has to spend 1 dollar to grow 2 bananas... it made sense this week, but not the next. So he might as well also do nothing and just keep the cash.

Everything in life is about balance... you can't simply destroy an economy because of a virus... saving some lives? maybe... but the suffering that follows might be too great of a cost to bear and maybe even more lives lost or destroyed. So at the end of the day, you have to ask if you are willing to accept those costs.

Yes, it is a lot to balance.
-healthcare resources
-the economy
-social order
-loss of life
Keep in mind, for a matter of 12-18 months, as there would inevitably be no vaccine of course.

Did you know that the Canadian special forces has a contingency plan for a zombie apocalypse? I shit you not.
To think that developed countries wouldn't have multiple well modeled plans for something as predictable as a pandemic, which is very much calculable by population growth, borders on absurd when you think about it.
It makes much more sense when you draw the conclusion that countries responses have been measured to attempt to balance all of those factors listed.
My personal opinion, it's all been part of a predetermined response. Scaled right down to the percentage of population who will ignore the warnings and requests.

Well how much is a human life worth?

If you had a family member with a terminal illness, how much resources would you spend to keep them alive?

I would absolutely spend all I can possibly afford to keep them alive. But what do I mean by that? I don’t know and I dont think there’s a clear cut answer.

It is not a fair comparison I’ll admit.

Depends, how much money can I make off them?

That convention took place Mar 5-7, > the 14 days period of self isolation recommended. He should stay home like the rest of us but not anymoreso because of that convention.

I will be honest I .Not with much. In terms of all assets I own maybe 700k? So that's not a not. And I would not want my family spending all of their savings to safe me if it comes to that point. Is simple I can't face them knowing that. I would feel too guilty my whole life knowing my family give everything they have to keep me alive.

A full complete lock down would only decimate certain parts of the economy. Vital services like rail / shipping / transportation would only have diminished volumes but not full closures.

Retailers
Restaurants
Tourism

Would be the hardest hit. Most other business will just see slow downs.
I don’t think a full lock down will ultimately kill the economy but not having a lockdown will likely kill a fuck load of people (some argue we need a good culling anyways....)

I don’t know. I’m kinda on the fence.
I’ll let you know after I get laid off or contract covid. Then I guess it’ll sway my opinion one way or the other