[Enraged]

sell those to a honda owner, get soem MKIV rims, thats what i want to do! get some 245s f and 275 r!

[NashMan]

no machineing was need on my block or head i lucked out my head gasket was not that bad i have sean way wores as well

it was leaking and if i drove it any longer it chould ahve done some bad damge

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Enraged
sell those to a honda owner, get soem MKIV rims, thats what i want to do! get some 245s f and 275 r!

lol, my ex gf has a CRX, maybe she can take em! and NO MKIV! damnit theres too many MKIV rim'ed MK3's out there. id want something better.... right now wheels i really dont care about tho. id rather spend the money on the interior or suspension or something.. it looks good as is i think and 235 is pretty wide in comparison to most vehicles.

[NashMan]

235 is nice tire to run remmber you don't want to go to wide ya know ps most people put thous mag on for 2 resons one there cheap 2 they want to keep it stockish

245 in the rear is to big i find will take away from over stree that you want in toyota supra

235 was what i am thinking on getting for the front and rear

ps the supra's supention was not desighed whiht over set wheels in mind remmber that sure it whould do great for draging but that all i can think of


this is just my thoughts thou

[NashMan]

yuppy my car is ont eh road oh joy

she goes like stink too

man i missed her but i got some minor bugs but i might race i still have not desided yet


i getting heat soak but minor caues leak some were but no biggy and my nock set code is up and stuff

[NashMan]

well i wil be at wester speed way at 2 30 rain or shine hope to see you at there you will know me caes i wil be wareing trd hat

and of coruse the the supra as well


hope to see you guys there toby/ muray ect

[86supra]

so I blew my head gasket yesterday moments after telling
my family and friend's that there is nothing wrong with my car.
so it looks like i'm doing the n/a-t swap sooner then I wanted to.
what was the total in the end to do that nashman?

[Enraged]

awww.... thats shitty!

you know, you can do a NA-T hybrid, using the NA block witha turbo head. ive seen guys on supraforums selling good heads for US$100, then there was a guy selling the intake manifold port matched, for US$60, an exhaust manifold for US$50, a stock turbo for US$150, etc. just look around, you might be able to get a good deal.

[NashMan]

humm how much have i spent humm um kinda alot


i spent close to 7000 buck 6 some thing or what ever

that was

7mgte
master cycdire
r15 trans
new tires
new plug's
new plug wires
head gasket
arp studs
bov vavle
ecu
wireing
boost agaug
inter cooler
rad
and some small things


any way if you are going to try some thing like i did fidn a doner car and have soe extra cash on you caues i was aiming for like 5000 to 6000 but i spent 7 or so

and i still got some small bugs but nothing i can't fix

ps my car allso has bean off the road for like 2 mouth tolota time abouts


make your mid up carefully caues it may cost alot or cheaper then you thought

[NashMan]

not bad i love the mini sprint got a littel side ways should have ketp the drift but na i like my tire and other stuff

frist run was like 101.62/100.66/100.88

my fastest time was when drifted


took toby for boot in my car i think he likes what i have done to my car (god dame you give your bov)



any way it was fun the car worked out great like mino eletic thing i have bean fighting but eh i will fix it when i have time and such


tobad you did not show up muray or is that how you spell it any way you should ahve shown up any way mee go out for food now chow


ps toby if you want a na diff i can make some calls ad most likly get you one for cheep

[86supra]

so I call some shops around town today about my BHG and
I get quoted some prices (1400-5500) so the last # is a complete
rebuild and after the lady says that I ask if I get a container of
vaseline with that to ease the pain, she says pardon. whatever
this is stupid I found a place in ont that will send me a 7mge with
a tranny to my door for $1700 inc, shipping. what a hassle!!!
oh and with most of these quotes the HG was $200 or a lil less
hahahahah

[Enraged]

if there isnt any damage to the head or block, you could always try fixing it yourself. total cost would probably be around $5-600 if you go with a stock Toyota gasket and some ARP studs or bolts.

ask Nashman, he did it mostly himself if im not mistaken.

or do a turbo swap, you can get a stock 7mgte for around US$700.

[Paradox]

arggh blow head gaskets suck... toyota should be paying for these sorts of things! be sure to report your BHG to the SOGi (?) database of other blown ones.... im not sure if thats still active, its basically just to bitch at toyota for not making proper head gaskets.


anyhow, sorry i missed the mini sprints guys. i might go to next months. ive still got tuning to do to my car.... greddy turbo will be here soon i hope, along with boost controller. that'll basically complete my engine mods for now (well perhaps i need a S-AFC.. hrmm) its hard not to keep blowing money on the damn car!

[Paradox]

heres a pic of my new turbo.. (not my actual turbo)

[NashMan]

hey toby now i found out why my car was drink alot of water

i had pin hole leak in one of my hoses
and my nock sencer is work right now


ehhee i got my power back but and runs great
now only if i can keep it that way



any who do you want ot trade both my subs for you bov and all even give you my bov

come on killer deal

[Enraged]

i already have subs (2 10" massives), i would trade for your big amp though :o)

[Paradox]

hey Nashman, how fast were you peaking out at during mini sprints?

[NashMan]

welll the fastest i got to was 4th around 5500 to 6000 rpm as for speed i do not know i was paying atetion to my tec i hardly look at the speedo but i whould say around like 120 to 135 or so i will see what that is on the streets

i chould have gone faster but i did not change my gears in the coner caue si did not want my ass end to kick out i should have tried but naaa i just go the baby on the road don't wan tot play whith her to rough

[Enraged]

you dont beat on your car at the minisprint, but when you take it out afterwards with me you do? hahaha that was SOOO much fun, i cant wait to upgrade my suspension.

[NashMan]

oh well i live for speed


oh and my heater core is going that is why i getting that musty coolent smell oh well off goes the dash again

[Paradox]

i gotta claybar today, woohaww

now i gotta wax the damn car all over again!

[NashMan]

well today i got high speed buffer for the car ohn joy


and i shimed my waste gate by like 3 washers hit about 8 psi

and 3rd gear chips are way to easy the thing is like rocket


i should take youout no tobby you will be scared this time

[Enraged]

lol maybe

DAMNIT if i didnt have to get rotors, i could build my DP-back exhuast this week..... oh well.....

bird shit ALL over my car, so i told my parents that i can either take down their bird house (the birds leave then house and shit on my car, and shit as they are going in TOO) or they buy me a car cover :D so they are buyin me a car cover this week. Lordco has a Wolf 3 layer for $94, so im gettin that. then i can wash claybar and wax my car without fear of it getting too dirty overnight.

[Paradox]

hehe shoulda gone for the BB gun dude :D

i cleared everything up with suprasport, and swapped my order for the JMBC to a test pipe. jeff didnt even have the parts in to make the JMBC's.

it'll be interesting to see what sort of power gains i get from the test pipe, hopefully lots!

also hope to see that damn LoTek pod too, did u guys have to take off the dash to get the vacuum hoses and wiring down to the firewall?

[NashMan]

you mena to run the air line naa takeing off the dash is not needed

alls you do it plus the plastic cover on the holy shit handle's and there is screw there un do it pull out towards the roof caue there clips and there you go

i ran my line down thoug the crah thoug th dash our by the gas pedle



ate the shit out buddies mustage today dame it way to easy now


oh well i am happy whiht the powe ri got so far more and i will be paying liek arm and leg for gas

ps i might be makeing some boost controlers so so i can ujest mine any one want any fi i make some

[MidnightMechanic]

What do you guys think? Gullwing? By Veilside? crazy

[Paradox]

Originally posted by BL/TZ
What do you guys think? Gullwing? By Veilside? crazy

hehe, is that supposed to be a supra?

[MidnightMechanic]

yeah, veilside works wonders with fiberglas

[slammedcivicsi]

Originally posted by Paradox


hehe, is that supposed to be a supra?

Ive got a Vid on my computer of it being drifted around mountain roads.....veilside had a whole custom fabbed rear compartment....and it has a special spot for the drivers helmet and gloves.

[Paradox]

it looks pretty cool, the doors might be a little much. the front end is dope for sure, most of the veilside kits ive seen for cars look too much like spaceships (Rx7 kit and etc)

i personally like the simpler kits on basically all cars, putting a body kit on a car to make it look like something else sorta defeats the purpose of buying that car in the first place.

just adding body skirts and front lips and such looks cool.. thats my opinion :) cars really dont need 3 feet of fiberglass surrounding every aspect of the vehicle

[Enraged]

the gulwing doors wouldnt be too hard to customize since the car comes with a targa top, but i have to agree with paradox, front lip sideskirts and an 89+ wingis all i want.... too bad they dont make lips for the 86.5-88.... tiem to play with fiberglass!

[NashMan]

is that supost to be mrk 3 kinda does not look like one caue shte windshield doe snot match up much but eh i cna be wroung



any ways my car is apaprt again replaceing the heater core this tiem had bit of coolent in there that was the reson why i chould not keep that much psi in my coolent system

but you know what i know that car insaid out

i think i know it more then i know my self kinda funny eh



my ca ris my women i take care of her dump money into her and show here off


if one more things goes thou i kicking it out the door thou all this work and i stuff


i got like 1000 left i tell i call it lemone it getting close thou


any way back to the car

[SilverMK3]

I came across this list of body kits for the MKIII a little while ago: SoCalSupras Body kits (http://www.socalsupras.com/tuning/mk3bodykit.htm)

If I ever get the money, I want the Do-Luck JZA70 T-2 (http://www.do-luck.com/supra/jza70t2.html) kit from Suprasport. I'll have do my intake and exhaust before I do that though, so its not too ricey, lol. I've got the "girly" supra (NA Auto)... :rolleyes:

[Enraged]

"I've got the "girly" supra (NA Auto)..."

yes, yes you do :D

ive got the mans car, turbo 5 spd hehe

[NashMan]

i got the manly est car caues you all ways have to fix it


never disss the na based motor you can diss the auto thing thou all you like thou


i whould take na over turbo any day but it hard ot get alot of power out of na whiht out spending mega cash

[Enraged]

hahah i have to fix it? i needed brake rotors, every car needs the, before that it was my own damn fault (i flooded the car). the car hasnt let me down yet. i just hate waiting for parts....

[Paradox]

dont dis the auto's! even lots of import racing magazines are picking up on the growing trend of automatic / big power / fast 1/4 cars out there nowadays... after '88 most supra's were auto :(

most draggers use auto trannys becuase they shift a hell of a lot faster than any human can with a 5spd. now for me, its just a matter of finding a tranny that can keep up with boost...

if i could have found a supra in as mint condition as mine when i was lookin' in a 5spd, i would have gotten that for sure, but goddamn. you know how many junker supra's are on this island?? too many. i must have been looking at supra's off and on for 3 years before i got mine, the only nice ones were never for sale :(

im still tempted to do a 5spd swap, but its not really worth it if the R154 cant handle anymore power either, i might aswell just get a high stall torque converter and rebuild the auto i have to a much higher spec, it just makes sense.

i will however say that a 5spd is a hell of a lot more fun to drive

:D

[NashMan]

well auto are go for thse few thing bumper to bumper traffic

drag raceing

and to lazy to drive like real man


but if you are raceing down some roads i rather have a 5 spd use both grears abd brakes to slow down

you can stop faster in a standered then you cna in auto


caues just think of it auto do not make any mistake's
but when raceing you have to cnage you shift for every coner and every cure so auto are bad there caues they can think humm big conner come up shift into this gear and such

[Paradox]

yeah.. how much do you think a R154 would cost in good condition?

[NashMan]

well i have trans in my garge right now it a 58w or what ever the na uses but it can hold up to 400 or more houres even has red line in it


and i all so got eh drive shaft you will have to hget new clutch thou caues you will burn the shit out of the stock oem

but for free why not eh

[Paradox]

no shit? hows the quality of it? does it grind in any gears or anything? and are u sure a W58 will hold 400HP? thats a lot of damn power for a NA tranny. also i think i need a tranny from a car that has ABS because of a ABS sensor or plug on it.

im really not too sure about all this... but that might be a cool idea

[Paradox]

even if i get a 5spd tranny, im still gonna need to find...

Bellhousing to suit 7M
Flywheel
Clutch
Pilot Bearing
Slave Cylinder
Clutch Fork
Master Cylinder
Hydrolic Lines
Clutch Pedal
Brake Pedal

that could end up being a bit of a hassle to find all that stuff.. arggh :(

[NashMan]

well thsi is what you will need the trans should hold up to it it run great was rebuilt like some time ago i forgot thou


if you want it i sell it for really really cheap

as for bell houseing and such not need will bolt up fidn the only thing you will need is the clutch peadle and the lines can be changed and such




things you need tyhat i know of if i sell you what i got


new clucht back plated ect
pedile things
shifter
new plug for back up light and speed sernce thing should bolt up fine


things i got is trans drive shaft/flywheel/ and the rest will be up to you


but should hold up to 400 but for how long i do not know i know it will hold caues there rated to 450 hp but that it's breaking point

if you wan tit i sell cheep




and dame it to hell my parts did not come today so i go to waight

[86supra]

hey guys, what's up? false alarm on the BHG
it was a rad line in the back of the engine so I'm ordering
the part tomorrow and it will be here on friday from toyota
and as far as the w58 tranny I personally wouldn't go any higher
than 400hp,I have a w58 in my ride and I like it alot and if the drivetrain wasn't high K's I would go that high. I was reading an article (don't ask where or when)
but this one dude claimed that the w58 was stronger than the r154,(don't believe everything that you read) that's my $.02

[Paradox]

W58 is supposed to be smoother than a R154 too.. im tempted NashMan. ive gotta look into finding the rest of the parts i'll need first, i'll probably go talk to a guy i know who does tranny work all the time and see what he thinks he can pull off.

mm 5spd would be fun, if i got that done, then all id need to do is change the color of my interior and id have my dream supra! shweeeet.

[Paradox]

as for not going above 400HP, well uhh-- we'll see what happens when i get my new turbo :)

btw, NashMan that knocking sound my engine was making is totally gone, it was just that one time *pheww* i thought something was fucked, but realistically i think maybe it was just running really rough and causing something on the exterior of the engine to rattle, i dunno. but it definetaly isnt internal, all my power's still there.

i did however drive the fuck out of my car today, used up about a half tank of gas and put in 92+ octane.

[Paradox]

Originally posted by 86supra
hey guys, what's up? false alarm on the BHG
it was a rad line in the back of the engine so I'm ordering
the part tomorrow and it will be here on friday from toyota
and as far as the w58 tranny I personally wouldn't go any higher
than 400hp,I have a w58 in my ride and I like it alot and if the drivetrain wasn't high K's I would go that high. I was reading an article (don't ask where or when)
but this one dude claimed that the w58 was stronger than the r154,(don't believe everything that you read) that's my $.02

<-- post whoring, sorry..

anyways, yeah ive heard the same thing about the W58 Tranny man, off of supraforums i think.

and be thankful you didnt have a BHG, thats very cool... BHG's suck ass and cost far too much money :(

i saw that Reg's SONiC lapping tool only costs like 250 bux though? damn that's a pretty good price, getting it lapped proffesionally would cost that much.

[Enraged]

paradox, ever talked to t61supradean on supraforums? hes willign to "rent" the lapping tool to me for cheap. i would have to pay shipping and give him a deposit.

i talked to a guy that comes into my work all the time, and he said hes rebuidl my head, and give me a good deal. he use to own/run "Just Heads" in Coombs i think he said. hes got a new shop in sidney i think.... might do a MHG or a new stock HG with ARP studs this summer... get the head rebuilt, valve seals,3 angle valve job.... custom cams are only $350 from a place in vancouver....

[Paradox]

find out the name of the guys shop in Sidney, that'd be good to know.

and 350 bux? damn, where from?

[Enraged]

i think its coltcams. $350 was for mild street cams. im sure you could get cams for any specs you want.

[NashMan]

i know a guy that will do you head gastket and warrenty it for like 1 year he is the one that did mine i watched hime do it and he klnows what he is doing as well


he is the the one that did most of my eninge swap that i wish i did but no time ow well he is good guy and if youi have any prob you can bring it back and he will look at it


and and to do tha head gasket it like 400

[Paradox]

Originally posted by NashMan
well thsi is what you will need the trans should hold up to it it run great was rebuilt like some time ago i forgot thou


if you want it i sell it for really really cheap

as for bell houseing and such not need will bolt up fidn the only thing you will need is the clutch peadle and the lines can be changed and such




things you need tyhat i know of if i sell you what i got


new clucht back plated ect
pedile things
shifter
new plug for back up light and speed sernce thing should bolt up fine


things i got is trans drive shaft/flywheel/ and the rest will be up to you


but should hold up to 400 but for how long i do not know i know it will hold caues there rated to 450 hp but that it's breaking point

if you wan tit i sell cheep




and dame it to hell my parts did not come today so i go to waight

i wont need a 5spd ECU or slave/master cylinders and such?

ive never ripped the tranny out of a supra, but im sure theres some big differences between the 5spd and auto... being the overly complex cars that they are.

[NashMan]

you will need a ecu just not master cyclber or slave


but you will havew ot find ecu

[Paradox]

i think you're vice versa NashMan, i did a bunch of searches on supraforums and came to the conclusion that a automatic ECU will work with 5spd.

i dunno about the swap tho, the tranny i have now is all electronically controlled, and would be a real bitch to change properly.

i talked to a guy who's done tranny work for me before today, hes really good and thinks i should just get a higher stall torque converter and maybe a shift kit, with a rebuild.

im undecided, hes going to get back to me tommorow with prices and what he can find.

i was thinking of maybe doing a N/A rear end too, but after the cars boosted high the N/A rearend will just spin the tires, no traction at all, and highway idle speeds are much higher, im gonna stick with my gearing. the ratio's were changed in 89+ supra's to a even lower ratio, so i imagine my top speed is pretty damn high considering ive heard of 87 supra's doing 160mph.. heheh

[NashMan]

do you know what i find funny thou

is the calbration will not mach if you did not use a the right ecu caues i says ring on the ecu box m and at one being for each diffetn car you will most likel get code erros all teh time i just whould not avise it


ps if you ketp use 87 octain you whould ahve melted hole in you pistons useing 87 at high boost you whould have really fucked you eninge up if you ketp doing that


as for the na diff you whould not spin the tire that easy caues auto tranny is easyer on the tiers

as for shift kit

see what happens when you boost high your tans might take it so find out frist caues atuo tranny rebuil run about 2000 or so to take like 500 real house the auto trans can take about as much as the 5 speed r15

it wil hold about 400 rwh the say it stand that it being old and such but the real numder is 450 but that is when ti brand spanking new

well back to the car ot work on it

[Paradox]

yeah, im a dork for putting in 87 octane, good thing i was only running 9psi and didnt drive the car too hard....

what are you doing to your car now, NashMan?

[NashMan]

the wireing and and heater core i done the heater core that in and good now the wireing and some body fi4es ect you know me i have to tinker whiht every thing

[Enraged]

so you guys think i can do my brakes myself? im goin to sears to buy a torque wrench tomorrow, craftsmen, lifetiem warranty, only $99 1/2" drive or $89 for 3/8" drive. ive got the rotors, the pads, caliper paint, and the toyota dealership can get a caliper rebuild kit for $33 in about 2 days if i need it. im still thinking about cadmium plating the rotors, it would mean another 2-4 days downtime, but it might be worth it.

heres a quote from powerslot.com for you paradox:

"...drilling delivers considerably less active braking surface, 108% less than Power Slot. And drilled and slotted rotors deliver 153% less swept area than Power Slot."

oh they are plated from the factory! sweet!

[Paradox]

get em done by marlon at pennisula!

and yeah i know my cross drilled/slotted rotors suck, but atleast they dont heat up! :D

i'll prolly go powerslot next time around..

[Paradox]

ohh yeah, and blue calipers on a burgandy car?
dude... best hope your car is painted before you get wheels to expose those

[Enraged]

lol

shutup :(

maybe ill return it, and get red instead?

[Paradox]

it all wont matter until you have exposed rims

hell, paint em pink! nobody will see!

[NashMan]

pink no that is to manly


well i have pin point my bad wirieng kinda
so now i just got fix it all i whould rater just get new wireing

but i can find any


master craft don't support the yanks go canada master craft

[Paradox]

teehee! :D hows this?

[NashMan]

now that si what i call sweet pink and all


hehehe


any way thous are th rims i was thinking on getting if i ever buy rims



my ca ris back on the road


got my top spee don prspet lake road heheh between 80 to 160

[Paradox]

cool, Nashman, try and keep your car together this time! hehhe

i just got word from MVP.... my Greddy 20g should be here in 2-3 weeks, atleast thats what they say. i sure hope theyre right this time!

i havent even been driving my car lately.... im running real rich now and think im gonna have to get a AFPR, im waiting on jeff to finish up the steel braided hose kit first....

[Enraged]

the guy producing the dp that im buying finally got his final copy done, so it was sent off for production on friday! looks like about a month away from getting to me!

it is "similar" to the defcon pipe that eliminates the turbo elbow.... claims of 75 rwhp from the dp alone.... i doubt its that big, but even half that and ill be happy :) so nashman you better have the cash when it comes if you still want to buy the 2nd one. if not, ill have another stainless steel dp to sell to someone else for US$300, while it will be selling online for around US$425...... gotta love hookups, eh? hehe

[NashMan]

how about this might trade my amp off for it and bov as well for my amp or vesia versa

or even my subs

[Enraged]

no, i need the cash for it, its goin on my Mastercard.... sorry...

i think im stickin with one amp anyways, i dont really need a second one, ive never even hooked up my new subs.

[NashMan]

my big popa amp for you down pip humm that sounds like good deal caues you chould sell it for more


just think my amp is 1400 new


800 is good deal to sellit for and stuff

[Paradox]

why dont you try and sell the amp before the d/p comes in?

just a thought, if you're willing to trade it for something worth 300 bux, i bet you could easily get 300 if you sold it to one of the stereo shops in victoria

[NashMan]

yae maybe but i do not know

[SilverMK3]

Woohoo!!! I'm at the 1/2 way point on my repairs!

Wanna see what the rear end of the supra looks like without the rear crossmember / axles?
http://portfolio.itas.mala.bc.ca/dnunez/carwash/diff.jpg

The new struts are at the shop right now getting getting the old springs swapped onto them.

The rotors that came with with the junkyard crossmember are all rusted to shit, they said it would come right off after I started using my brakes - but I dunno, its gonna look pretty lame if I get new rims and the rotors are all rusted. How much is it for "performance" rotors? I don't wanna shell out the cash for Brembo's and the stock Toyota parts are probably just as much, is there a cheaper alternative that's still good?

[Enraged]

nashman, if you dont have the cash then ya ill trade, i would just rather have the cash thats all.

im havin the kind of day where if someone cuts me off im going to get out of my car and punch them in the fuckin head. just thought i should share

[NashMan]

and just rip off your side veiw mirro and though it at them hehehehe


but i got to ask pardox some thing frist how homw many k's do your car have


tell me caue if you bump your hp you my fucke the eneing up


caues the nock you told me about the other day can mean that you ebneing i not int eh tip top shape you wan tit it be in

[Enraged]

knock? rod knock? :( i hope not....

im thinkin of buying a longblock (or is it shortblock, just the block, crank, pistons, rods, etc?) to rebuild so if something goes wrong i can just swap it over....

[Paradox]

yeah, i put in shitty 87 octane gas.. it only happened one morning. its all good now, cept my idle sux ass.i need the lex AFM screw real bad or a S-AFC, that knock i think was something on the engine banging around, nothing internal, the idle was just so horrible that it was shaking around a lot, i'll be using highest octane possible from now on... hehe

my car has like 130,000k on it or so (fairly low for a supra)

btw.. i raised boost to 12psi today, it was pretty fun, cept i was spiking to 15psi with washers on wastegate, grrrr..... need my boost controller soon...

i think i pulled 0-140kph in a matter of geezus, not many seconds.. its pretty quick off the line now :D too bad my tranny isnt holding it! :2finger:

[NashMan]

well lets put it this way i blew my eneinge up whiht full rebuild

when you hop up hp you can break shit easy as pie


just be worring that is about it


oh yae no need ot put in any higher then 92 caues you can break you enigne that way as well go to chev put 92 in she will run nice and pretty for you


i wonte push more then 9 psi in my car tell i get exhuast


plus all so i don't wan tto break any thing

ps do you wan to sell your trubo when you get new one

[Paradox]

yeah... supra's are known for being un-reliable, as with any car thats highly modified, but it should hopefully stick together if im good to it.

and i dunno what good my turbo will be by the time it comes off, but i'll let you know then. -- it isnt pushing how it used to :(

[Enraged]

supras are reliable i think, it jsut depends, just liek any other car. if you slap a larger turbo on, more fuel etc on an engine with 150,000km, then ya, i would expect something to go wrong.

thats why im going to look into buying a short block (or is it long block) in the summer. just build it up, and when i have the money, ill just switch it over, put in a MHG, studs, etc. ill probably be aiming for 400-450 rwhp which is possible on the stock bottom end, but ill probably get the pistons coated, rings, stress relieved rods, fully balanced, etc.

[NashMan]

well lets define relable


supra vs asprint or terce the supra will be more of pain caues from factory it is hoped up so it will not last as long


and when yo hop it up more things go wroung in less it done right and such but nothing is ever perfect



we should plan littelk supra meet up when sliver mrk 3 gets his car going and such

[NashMan]

NashMan has just won his greats victory


i still can not bleav it to this day

i fianly up and fan against a friend of mine that has full built up 87 chevy comaro


this is what he has done to he car added tpi/350 bord over/header's full exhaust no cats k&n/excell wires /chiped and all and aolt of other littel things



but all in all i beat him


i just wounder what els i can beat this is really the frist time i really pushed my car for the frist day and now i have bigger out look on what my car can do


mustage/comaroes Eat My Fucken Dust


ps he is sell his car if any of you guys know some one that wants to buy his commro it really nice car to boot and fast to


ps he is not shitty driver in any way


any ways who will be my next target


maybe silver mrk 3 not the one in naimoe bu the other one
or even you toby

[Enraged]

anyone have any suggestions on how to remove the 2 bolts holding the caliper adapter? ive sprayed them with WD40, smacked them with a rubber mallet, nothing is working.... i finished the left side (brakes) and now im on the right.... i would have been done hours ago if it wasnt for these 2 fucking bolts....

i was thinkin a torch, but i dont think it would be a good idea around the caliper, etc...... DAMNIT i want to drive, im SO close to being finished!!!

[NashMan]

yae just use torch i never bean beaten by a bolt as of yet and never plan on it ether i work on one bolt one tiem that was one like ot 700 ft pounds try getting that off

oh and levage is the key to get any bolt off just get big breaker bar to get the suck off and get buch of friend to sit on the bar i briken many socket in my life to tryt to get bolts of but they all wasy come of

[NashMan]

new land speed record set for me 150mph down the highway last night muahhaha like i going to do that again that was kinda fast

i peg my speedo

[Parad0x]

150 on stock wheels... musta been scary!

[Parad0x]

eeeeek wtf im a new member now!?

[Paradox]

hrmm dont mind me. looks like i had both names registered and logged in with the wrong one.. DOH! :damn:

[NashMan]

it has nothng to do whiht what size you wheel are infact the thiner they are the better control think about it what do wide tire do caues turbulace and thiner one whould that is why drag cars have thiner one it the front besides weight and such


but 150 mhp is like hold ont eh wheel whiht bothing hands teyp of thing the car was quit stable at that speed to even around the big coner on the way to town from langford


but i whould not say to do this do it on your own risk my car felt out at that speed i have w rated tire and full seption work done do at you own risk

[Enraged]

GOT THE FUCKER OFF!!! uh... the bolt i mean hehe

i jammed on a 21/32 socket that my dad had (it ALMOST fits, and it did fit with a bit of bashing), used a breaker bar that i found and they both came off with a little elbow grease.

so i now have good brakes! i didnt really test them, becuase your supposed to bed them in over about 200-500 km. so no jamming on the breaks from 200 kph for a few weeks hehe

150 mph eh nashman? that was a test track, right? ;) (cops brouwse the board sometimes, just so you know....)

i cant wait for the next minisprint now! paradox is coming, right? even if you dont race, i want to see your car :)

now i REALLY need to do my exhaust, the car feels so choked, especially over 4000 rpm..... oh well, about a month and ill have an extra 75-100 hp to play with :D

[Paradox]

hehehe i ordered a S-AFC! maybe i can get my car idling a little better and make a extra 30 horse power or so (depending on tuning, but thats a average gain for S-AFC's) this is also supposed to clear up idle issues with cars using HKS SSQ BOV's (like me) ...... my car idles like shit! lexus AFM evil! hehe, but the power makes up for it!

now if i can ever get my hands on a damn boost controller i'll be set!

[NashMan]

so come on tobs trad eme my big amp for your bov and down pipe i may thought in te speakers if you give me your as well

[Enraged]

lol

dp for amp, sure. i dont need anything else

if you sell that amp for $800-$1000, you could buy the dp and a bov with the money.....

[NashMan]

i hate selling things

[NashMan]

well boys i may sell my car if i find the right buyer

caues of one reson i don't really care for the turbo power as much as NA POWER!!!!


caues there is some much lag but but i will give it another chance when i get my full exhuast it may cange my mind


but if i got to replace my car this is kinda funny you may laugh but there nice cars i whould like to find a toyota 86 gts carrola
and rip out the 4age and pop in a 2 gen mr2 motor 5age or that what i think it is called


not saying this as fact

but driven my friends rx7 showed me how much fun na power really is


well i am not leaven the supra in the dust but it is just thought that has bean runing though my mind lately


it may not go fast stright but in the conner na's are the best

[Enraged]

ha after you did all that work on it eh? that would be a sweet car though, but those are really popular now, i doubt you could find one without rust, etc for under $4000. and NAs arent better in corners than turbos, and lag all depends on the gear and RPM your in. 3000 rpm in second is VERY fun around corners....

[Paradox]

what makes a NA so much better around corners?
the fact that it doesnt have nearly as much power so it doesnt get into the corner as fast? heheh...

i dunno, ive driven alotta NA sports cars, and im definetaly sticking to the turbo


NA Rx7's arent very fast at all either..... 2nd gen. 1986-87 does 0-60mph in like 9-10 seconds (ive timed this)

the 86 and 87 Rx7's are actually slower than the 85 first Gens because of extra weight and basically the same power output.


its all up to you tho man, i just hope you arent sitting around yelling at yourself for selling the supra some day... :D

[NashMan]

well i like my supra i know that it fery fun car butt he lag is slowing me down alot

i try to keep the boost there wheil i gear down and hit coner ps you don't wan tfull boost or you car will spike and send the ass end out



as na has smooth power as in you gear down hell toe it and you still will be in power then push her to the floor and you pull out nice and smooth and fast



as if you have turbo you gear down loose all your power and hopfuly yuou can recover around 3 rpm so in way you are not useing all your power


one day you should come around and race around whiht me

ps the 2gen is alot faster the the frist you just must have had bad engine

turbo spikes/never use all your power/slower in coners/great for strighaways

na bad ass power flow/use all the power in teh coners/not that great in strighes in less you got some hp


i have not give up lerning how to drive this turbo car but i will lern alls it will take is time ps i am slower in my turbo then i was in my na supra

[Enraged]

if you say so.... give me the same suspension mods as you, put an NA in your car and turbo in mine, i bet turbo is going to be faster around minisprint, etc....

[NashMan]

no no no that diffent story i talkign about 90 dagree turos u turns ect auto x and stuff oy uknow harder stuff insaid of going around in ring aka road raceing down windy roads stuff like that i can't keep my power right

even going the tad over the speed limt it kinda hard to keep the power just right


some time mega power can be used agaist you


it will just take time but as son as get down pipe then i might be alot diffet i want my turbo to hit around like 2 to 2500 rpm that whould help alot


and if i ever get that down pipe it might help pout my prob

[Enraged]

apparantly the DP reduces lag by around 600 rpm.... lets hope for the best, i find out later today whats happening with it.... if anyone else wants a defcon-style DP, let me know, i could get them all shipped together to save some cash, might be able to hook up a bit better price too....

[fuzebox]

Ah, owning a low-powered NA makes up for poor driving!

That's what it's "better in the corners".

You can floor it all you want and you still won't be going too fast for the corner :)

[NashMan]

not true in any way power is not every thing you should know that be now if you raod race or any thing like that then you whould power mean nothing to me



sure in drag turbo are the best but na are better for windy shit


alls i saying is i want better power are 2500 rpm


it hard to say alls i got o say is ask toby on how fast aka know what i am doing


main word in fact is i still not used to trubo as much as i am na

[Enraged]

you shouldnt even be at 2500 rpm if your racing..... redline 1st, 3500 rpm 2nd. redline 2nd, about the same in 3rd. redlien 3rd, etc. i think it might be your NA diff if anything, it messes up the gearing.

when i downshift from 3rd, it lands RIGHT in the sweet spot for power, no lag whatsoever. ill have to agree with paradox, NA power makes up for poor driving.... if your in the powerband, which you SHOULD be if your racing, you will have no lag whatsoever.....

[Paradox]

hehe i have a AUTOMATIC! :( and i can even manage to keep my car in the 'power band' the most power i can pull is between 3,000RPM in first, 4,000 in second and by the time i hit rev's in 3rd or 4th im going 150kph.. so its not much use even know what rev's to hit on up there, but ofcourse its nice to hit right on spool at 3000-3500k RPM in any gear.

as for NA power being able to handle better, the only real benefits i see is that your power doesnt change when you're going around corners, but if you're in a corner you shouldnt be using much gas at all. brake >> corner >> get back on. i cant see why you'd want to be above 3000RPM in any corner anyhow (atleast tight corners) with the turbo you will definetaly lose traction, but you also gain power... lots of power.

give me the boost anyday. it may take more tuning and stuff breaks more and it costs more... but what is lost in annoyance is made up in fun! plus you get to swoosh at other cars with your BOV! ;)

[Paradox]

btw i might be interested in DP, depending when it comes in and price...

i'll see how my car holds together set as is


and if i do get it, who wants my 3" random tech??? haha

[Enraged]

if you are interested, i can get them for US$300. thats wholesale price, you wont find a better deal :D

[NashMan]

well wht i mean when i want powr around 2500

is so when i donwn shit i will be in my turq zone that i want and i will not have spike in any way full traion all the way though


what i do now i kinda friged t out well works for me is down shift right into the conner then smooth transfer to gas and i can get around it kinda nice now and the tec will bounch tigh where i want it 3500 but still i whould liek to have more spool at that time



don't call me fool caue si know alot when it come to tat type of stuff raceing around track like mini sprints is not my ball park and auto x is far better and you get tot run more to boot

[Paradox]

figure yourself out man, wtf do you want!
all these posts about which car company is better, NA vs turbo/SC power... bah..

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Enraged
if you are interested, i can get them for US$300. thats wholesale price, you wont find a better deal :D

sounds like a good deal. anyone else in?

do we even have more than 3 supras on this board? hehe

i think i should prolly sleep now. :mad:

[NashMan]

ehhehe i know i have bean head case lately but my mind all ways wounders


it just my car is new to me still to the point i wan the best i can get i try to improve my self as much as possible so i can be better driver ps the honda thing hurt me you know I HATE HONDAS


but i still love my car it just humm how whould you say i wan to be better


na power is better for raceing but a turbo car that is tuned is some thing i have never got to drive as of yet



i have alot of lag remmber i have na exhuast on my car think of the pian i am going thoug


but i trust my slef to get better


but toby i got deal for you all trade you my big amp for like downpipe and 50 or so bucks you intrested


that if i don't sell it befor hand and stuff

[Paradox]

hehe sorry man, i meant that sarcastically

[Enraged]

your amp + $50 = downpipe

OR

your amp = $50 + downpipe

?

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Enraged
your amp + $50 = downpipe

OR

your amp = $50 + downpipe

?

isnt that amp worth a lot more than the value of the downpipe?

[NashMan]

well you got t think most people will buy new then old and one other thing is it hard ot sell caues not many poepl can aford it and stuff



so you going to be going to auto x and stuff

[86supra]

well boys and girls as of friday (the 31st) i'm cancelling
my internet, i'll visit once in a while from my g/f's computer
and as of the 15th of june the supra is going into storage till next
spring and i'm moving to alberta. it was fun talking with you.
later

[Paradox]

Originally posted by 86supra
well boys and girls as of friday (the 31st) i'm cancelling
my internet, i'll visit once in a while from my g/f's computer
and as of the 15th of june the supra is going into storage till next
spring and i'm moving to alberta. it was fun talking with you.
later

damn, sorry to hear you'll be without a supra for awhile.

[NashMan]

well that is no fun oh w2ell hope you have fun and stuff

[Paradox]

hey NashMan, whatta you know about washers on the wastegate stretching it out?

ive got like 5 washers on each side now, boost controller goes in this week (i hope). and im wondering if the washers could cause my wastegate to act weird?

ive had 3 washers on for 5-6 months, and 4-6 for the past month.

[NashMan]

well this is tuchy thing but just think


i will explaint he good and the bad abotu the this hole shim your waste gate thing


when you shime the waste gate you are pushing it forward so the waste gate has more to travole aka the waste gate will by pass the exhuast when it close so basicly you are give ti more travole but there is bad thing 2 of em one is the stress ont he vavle that close it it so streacht it will break and plus you will have boost spikes caues the stock ecu still think it pushing 6 or 7 psi so it not contoled no more that why alot of peoepl go to eletic controls caues you just take the vac line and run ti stright from that


basicl maunle will allwasy have spikes and might over boost more then eletic

now runing that many washer is cauesing alot of streest on 13 year old part but shiming ti bit will nto hurt mine is at 3 washer and i happy whiht the power

now runing over 5 you will have spikes like mad man and have chance to run lean and over boost akak nocking and stuff breaking ect

but it s you car so i can not tell you wan tot do but 5 or more your risking breaking you turbo as well you eneing if over boost to high and you fule is not right


i can go on and on about this but when you give more power the ecu still thinks it run stock

thats why you have bad ideal caues you computer is telling one thing weil you afm is saying some thing els that why they mad screw for it so you can manule ajust it


oh and one other thing you you have to set your fule to happy medium in order to run right or you will just blew head gasket ect


bascily play it safe run low boost tell you ajust you fule and air flow or some thing may go wroung

and we never liek that happing


oh and one other thing the toyota supra fuel system runing from stock is good up to 12 psi then ytou run lean whiht out any timeing ajusted and high fule grade and if done wroung then the nock sencer comes on and you loose power when i raced at the speed way i was runing suck low power caues my nock seancer was not hooked up


any way i hope you chould read this tiny bit drunk so i may mis spelled thing and missed some thing abut shimming to much can be bad thing noit just for the turbo btu the hole eneinge


and if you hit fule cut what ever you do never by pass that fule
cut is there for reson


2 words sort run 3 washer tell you get your boost controler then tune it for you reg boost and you should be fine

[Paradox]

bascily play it safe run low boost tell you ajust you fule and air flow or some thing may go wroung


uhh, you mean like a MKIV fuel pump, Lexus AFM, and RC 550's? id figure that may have changed my fuel settings a tad ;)

but yeah. thanks man... keep in mind i should have S-AFC whenever jeff gets them in, i guess some Apex'i stuff has been backordered.


i hope to see 15psi very soon...

[NashMan]

just remmber befor you boost hard 3 things to make sure of is


your afm is tuned


you can run rich just means you car will suck on gas like 5 year sucking on slurpy and you may shoot flams on the hat caue sof the lower denc air up there


but when you boost you will never detantae in any way or run lean and you tail pipe will allways be black caue's of carbon


and alot of people that push 15 pis run fule regulaters look inot that and see how much you can get one for


any ways good luck you will be pushing about 300 hp at the wheels in no time maybe bit higher

[Paradox]

yeah. i was looking into the paxton AFPR, the stock FPR should hold for now tho id think.

flames id like to see! :D

im definetaly running rich, but i highly doubt its rich enough to make fire out the back.. ehhehe

[NashMan]

so come on lets see you come to duncan and race you ride and stuff come on peopl show em what supra can do where there the best

[deathangel]

as for the wastegate actuater stretching out i had 5 washers on there for a year and i put the boost controller in recently and didn't have a problem not to try and start an argument but it takes alot to stretch it out!

[NashMan]

no i not going to start one ether i herd of peopl blots on it and all that cazy stuff and never haven probs but some do



i shimed mine 3 washer and that is it ooo can't weight goign to race my supra today ehhehehe




any way when did you crawl from under rock have nto sean you in this thread for bit now


i herd fomr mike you have prob whiht you car again is this ture what did you do to it


come on poepl duncan 6pm wallmart parking lot

all be there

[deathangel]

the only problem is i have to run a minimum of 92 octane and have to get a walbro fuel pump thats all

[Enraged]

what do you guys think is a better idea: replace the headgasket (new stock HG with ARP) OR buy a used shortblock, rebuild it, maybe upgrade it a bit (stress releived rods, stock piston coated OR ross forged pistons, balanced, MHG w/ARP), then swap it in if/when the current HG blows? building a block will take longer, might cost more (depending on what is used in the buildup)...

im thinkin about doing the HG in july, i might be able to get a really good deal, but the engien has 155,000+ km, so im thinkin start fresh and i wont have to worry about it for a LONG time. with my old beretta, i was out a car for 2 months while the work was being done, and it cost me $2300. i dont want to be in the same situation again, so id rather fix it before it breaks. opinions?

[NashMan]

well whiht any thing to do whiht that it will still take the same tiem doing head gasket it cheaper and goign whiht stock head gasket is fine whiht arp


caues that leavs you room when you whant to rebuilt you car caues you will nto ahve to mill and shit as of going coated piston naa don't bother caues it kinda waste of money if you really think of it

so it a big money thing rebuild will cost about like 2000 whiht just milling and gasket set blaa blaa blaa but if you make it stroung as you say building hole egin will cost more in the long run kinda do what o did and replace the head gasket if it is leaking if not don't bother caes it will leak befor she blows


in less you are pushing mega psi so it kinda up tot u if i was uncle money bags i whould just got toyota botttom end don't really need arp and stuff as for piston i whould go je but still that can caues piston slap over tiem and will stroed the piston life ect caues there is less srit to play whiht but will be lighter and rev higher as for cams i whould pop in na 's if you have em they change the power a bit as in power band but not incress power well far as i know of and shit

any way i am off ot the races so think hard befor you spend money that i all i say

[deathangel]

or third option buy a short block from toyota for $3000 put your head on it (with some work and an MHG)

the block and internals are good up to 600HP

[Paradox]

Originally posted by deathangel
or third option buy a short block from toyota for $3000 put your head on it (with some work and an MHG)

the block and internals are good up to 600HP


would that be a JDM engine or brand new or what?

[deathangel]

brand new racing short block from toyota

[Enraged]

i called abotu pricing for the shortblock, their goin to phoen me on monday with a price. it would probably be cheaper to just buy an engien with BHG for cheap, then rebuild the shortblock, and sell the head, etc to offset the cost.

[NashMan]

i just don't get it why 600 hp that whould be crazy try raceing whiht 600 whould be allright crappy just think of it but eh what ever what ever


whent to auto x and they whould not let me race caue i was perging my system befor i ran caue si want good cooling and stuff

so i whent up down the parking lot in frist gear give it some gas they said i was being reck less that was not i find that so god dame gay i find but o well


my dream 300 or so hp so i can race still draging is for v8's and stuff not my car it racer and driffter if i choose to wear my tires





so any info on the down pipe yet i really want that thing i don't like that lag i got caues it not working great whiht my trans setup that i put alot of thinking into


ps new mod i might be getting soo tire psi and temp sencer so i can not eh psi in any tier from cock pit that i whould come in hanndy when warming up your tire ect when raceing down the road and tire heat alarm's and psi alram for whe it is low ect


any ways you guys should have coem tot he auto x it was kinda fun to watch

[Paradox]

ripped out my back seats today, along with my 10" Pioneer sub + box. then i put a old box with two 10" in ported box back into the car, as for weight loss, whatever i lost taking out the backseats i made back up with the two 10" box. hehe. anyhow, it looks like garbage, im gonna have to figure some way to custom fit the box into the back seats

i also gotta get my amp off a bridged connection so i can run both 10"s. running just the single in that box is louder than the Pioneer sub, just not as clean sounding.

i havent messed with stereo's since highschool really, i was all into bass and neons back then, maybe i'll give it another shot (minus the neons)

ohh.. and that shortblock is a direct replacement 7MGTE? minus the head? or what? id like to hear more about this incase i ever end up having major engine probs...

[Enraged]

haha she called me back after i posted that, $3600 and change..... no thanks, looks like if i do it, ill buy a JDM or engien with a BHG....

as for stereo, if you want, let me know, i know quite a bit about it, installed a few systems in my old beretta... never finished them though, i couldnt stand the trunk install.... hatch install however will be very fun :D just have to work out the movign amp rack... maybe.... hehe

The Sum of All Fears = GOOD!!! (although, i am a HUGE Tom Clancy fan, so i might be biased a bit.)

[Paradox]

well, maybe i'll take some pix of the stereo setup tommorow, but i really have no idea what to do to make it sit right, cept maybe slap a plank of plywood over the middle, get some carpet, cover it all. etc.

who knows. ive got a pretty decent amp, nothing super powerful but its as loud as id want. its a JBL P 180.2, be nice to have it set inbetween the subs or something.

the last thing i want to do is take it to a stereo shop and have it 'custom done' id rather figure this one out myself.
not to mention when i had my stereo installed at island audio they busted up a bunch of little stuff by laying in screws too hard and pulling the lil screw things out of my backseat. gah. for the money it costs to get work done there, id expect perfection.

[Enraged]

do you want your spare tire? if not, you could always use that as an enclosure by using some fiberglass. also, pointing the subs up at the hatch will increase the output a bit. ive got so many ideas for my stereo, im still not sure which one im going to do....

[Paradox]

my spares been out for a year+ dude

[NashMan]

well i find whiht ported box the way you want you sub to run is 3 ways

one way is aim the port about 5 incs or so way from the back of the car and run the subs aiming to the glas not box but more liek this




__
[ \
[ \
[ \
[ \
--------


the naroow part is wher rthe sub goes
and the slanted part is where the sub faceiung the glass


i have done alot in boxes wise for supra's and this one was the most clearest of all and ps it was not dual camber box as well caues the dual camber took away the not i wanted to have to much bass

ps all so this is the best one to run to have have rattel

now if you want boom db i whould run dual chamber wiht seperti ports and run teh sub tot eh back as well as the sub but it wil rattel now run a fiber glass in teh saper time thing is good idea if you have a targa but wil sound liek carp caues the ari vol will not be right plus it whould have alot of nosie cancleing ect


i done alot in audio i know what boxes run good in these thing remmber i hit 150 db whiht only one amp and 2 sub whiht out cap and one batt


if you wan to know more i can tell you but i can go on and on and on

i made about 4 boxes for my car tell i hit 150.1 db



ps put ti in frist and then wehn you like the sound q then you put in the other stuff liek eye candy


took me 1 year to hit 150 now i am selling it caues i don't want eh heat score


i was going to compete this summber at teh house of boom but ti is out of my system


plus i didn't liek the weight on my rear end i had to do my camber for the weight now that is out i had to do it again and it perfect better whiht otut he shit i had back there

and if you want power wire ect i have it all over the place as well as neno and crap

[Enraged]

what color neon do you have?

[Paradox]

i gotta blue'ish neon thats going above my intercooler and then wired to come on with matrix foglights (none of this crap is installed yet)

then i'll just have it turned on for show... so not very often at all.

my stupid stock foglights never turn off either, if the cars on, so are they and the damn switch doesnt turn em off!

i need to fix that... ive got Hella H4's installed for headlights which would look dope with the matrix foglights and not the stock foglights

[NashMan]

i got black light and a buch of perpule

[Enraged]

ive got some blue neon cable, im not sure what im going to be doing with neon yet though. if i change the interior to black, it will be much better looking. maybe some polished aluminum accents to match the amp....

[Paradox]

heres the subs in my car... as you can see something needs to be done to flatten the area its sitting on, and also need some carpet under there...

[Paradox]

heh, and check this out. i spun the original brackets for the back seats around and they fit up almost perfectly to the back of the sub box.

btw the box is covered in cat hair and other stuff from sitting around collecting dust the last 3 years. i'll work on cleaning everything up once i get it in there nicely.

ohh and i ripped out the passenger side seat, got at my amp, then changed it off the bridged connection so its running both 10's now. sounds real loud compared to before. :)

[NashMan]

well the big reson why it sounds louder is 2 things


1 big you are pushign more air then befor


2 you may have better box then the old one and if the old one was seal yes there will be diff i like ported boxes but ti hard to get nice sounding one and when you di it is like god blesd you or some thing


any way change my trans fulid today boy did that do alot come paded to the old stuf fi was runing aka wroung trans fulid to light weight for my car but i allwasy use red line it the best i find but it is exp thou

[Paradox]

yeah. its way louder now. the box i had in before wasnt ported, but gave a much cleaner sound... now its alot of damn bass

i had this box in my Rx7 and cavalier years ago, its a great box but when i got a new stereo for the supra i thought id go to a simpler setup with just a single ten (got tired of my ears ringing all the time)

ahh well, guess im gonna go def

[NashMan]

well since i took my setup out of my car my hearing kinda comeing back mine was really loud but clear at teh same time


here is some thing for you to try whiht you box


take you box and put the prt about 5 incs away from the back and ami the sub at teh windo you may see much better sound come out alot cleaner and not much port nosie ect just try it and tell me if you liek it better ps you will get more of mid rang boom


but try it out you may liek it that is the way my clearest setup was same shaped box but single port in one chamber box

[NashMan]

well i wne tot the race way but toby has some bad news that i will let him say



but who is all going to go the auto x this june i am come on we need more people

[Enraged]

not really bad, i had air in my brake lines, so goin into the hairpin turn i couldnt stop..... after 10 ft it stopped, but i figured it wouldnt be a good idea to race anymore. my dad will help me bleed them in the next couple of days though, so ill be out in full force next time.

my first run was SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO much fun though. i pretty much drifted most of the way around the sweeper hahahahah wooooooooooooooooo that was cool!

[Paradox]

what was your time?

[NashMan]

he never got time they fucked up to bad eh so that mini crashed eh how bad was it and shit hehehe

[Enraged]

mini was totalled i think. there was some pics up, but they gt removed.

paradox, hung over again, or scared to meet nashman? lol

[NashMan]

why whould he be scared to meet mee i am nice guy in less you pass me lol hehehe j/k any ways we should all have meet up one day


and me and toby were talking fro the past year i have sean supra all over the place i love it back in the old day when i drove my bad boy peoeple didn't even know what supra was let aloan how fast it really was



i don't know i think have the supra peol are out there caues of fad that is going around them


same whiht ae86 i liked em for years when i metion them people say i don't want ff car let alow one that is slow as shit but there pretty quick that is why i want one i want supra and ae86 and then you can just call me the toyota guy hehehehe



maybe i might wash my car today but i think i should clean my room hehehe it kinda messy



oh ps i just about got cought speed down in langford caue si was late i was going around 180 or so gee that whoudl have bean bad i don't speed that fast often but gee i was late and my boss whould have killed me if i was any later

[Paradox]

hehe, i have troubles waking up before like 2pm. my sleeping patterns been a little off lately, have the mini sprints at like midnight and im there! ;)

[NashMan]

so you are nigher hawk like me eh i sletp and put my alram on and plus got friend to call me befor 2


ooooo so ttoby i need ot know if it is 11 week tell you get the down pipe or you get both at the same time when veer that is i need ot know caue si going to be makeing a cat back setup soo or at lest get eh exp part the muffler apexi hehehe i can't weight it is sweet muffer too boot and must make nice sound

plus gona get one whiht the most less bends as possible and no cats at all no test pipe ether just pipe right to downpipe take the heav cat peac out then i will have no cats at all but still have a stock downpiupe tell toby get mine in

[Paradox]

deathangel!

i got my S-AFC, and was wondering if theres anything special i should know during installation? all the instructions included are japanese and the .PDF's from the Apexi site arent too knowledeable.

for instance, for splicing into the ECU harness, it shows instructions for 6 wires, but uhh theres still like 4 or 5 other wires that id guess need to go somewhere... im gonna try and install it soon, maybe tommorow.

thanks man!


ohh, i got my R/T testpipe too!

[NashMan]

remmber paradox tune that thing good caues if you don't tune it right some bad thing can happen if you want some one to hook it up and tune your car for boost give tryo a call at progissive motor sports 477 2711 plus he has great price


he meets my standers and picky person

[NanaimoRx-7]

RX-7's WILL OWN YOU!!!!!! (ducks and runs back to the Rx-7 thread)

[EightTrack]

Muahahahaha......

[Paradox]

Originally posted by NanaimoRx-7
RX-7's WILL OWN YOU!!!!!! (ducks and runs back to the Rx-7 thread)


now that was just immature. :nono:

[deathangel]

the guy you want to ask is that guy with the black supra his name is john he put his in and he knows better than me but if you want i can help you soon

john's email is johnwhightman@shaw.ca

if he doesn't answer i will try to figure it out i just don't have one yet:D

[Paradox]

ok cool, thanks deathangel. ive been collecting S-AFC info off of supraforums for the last few weeks. most of it is for tuning and not the actual install. if i have probs i'll fire a email his way.

how it looks right now is the extra wires are for the different cars. i was looking at the wrong diagram (hotwire) when it should have been the karman, which only leaves 3 extra wires.

guess i wont really know til i have the ECU exposed.

speaking of which, is the ECU hard to get at? ive never yanked the glovebox, any hidden screws or annoyances i should know about?

[deathangel]

ECU is really easy to get at just undo screws holding the foot well cover on then take out the glove box then remove the gaurd behind that i think 10 screws and 2 bolts is all

Don't forget though when looking at the diagram of the ECU harness it is showing you for the back of the harness as if it was plugged into the ECU and make sure to pull the plugs out of the ECU before soldering or you could potentially damage the ECU (very bad thing) good luck!

[NashMan]

well i took my car out after i took my back seat out and deading


and i can hear my bov to much road nosie but boy you car here my exhuast it just goes nuts when i boost


ps the main reson why i got rid of the back seat is not for weight but i hate it when people want to come for ride so i feel like an ass hole he i have spare seat caues they like mess things up back there and shit know know what i mean


so no seat oh well tuff

but i going to put down some carpet to cover allt he meatle caus it will dead the sound bit

[Paradox]

yeah, back seats are useless in supra's :D

[weatherdoll]

Originally posted by Paradox
deathangel!

i got my S-AFC, and was wondering if theres anything special i should know during installation? all the instructions included are japanese and the .PDF's from the Apexi site arent too ................
ohh, i got my R/T testpipe too!
;) Hey, I have a SAFC on my car as well, if you want help, maybe I can try. ;)

[NashMan]

hey i had fun today i jumped my friends 88 stock blazer


guess how fa ri jumped it the winner gets doggy treat it is in feet and i jumped into sand as well so guess awqay

[Paradox]

306 feet, double backflip and a perfect landing!

10,000 bonus points awarded to NashMan!

hehe

[NashMan]

naaa but ti was 25 feet crazy eh

[Paradox]

thats some freaky shit man, isnt a blazer a bit dangerous to be jumping around in?? ;)

[NashMan]

naa it fine runs good and stroung but we found out just bit ago that the front transfer case has bean leaking trans fulid it just getting wores now i think he needs to replace the gasket that whould suck if he need rebuild


caues it has bean very loud when in 4 wheel drive and not it just getting wores


and no i did not break it it just he got the truck fr deal and this is why it was good deal it had probs and now there starting to show

[fuzebox]

I used to jump my '97 Jeep TJ over sand dunes and shit... get 2-3 feet of air hehe...

Ah, the days when I had money :/

[NashMan]

sweet i have no clue how high we went but just how far

[Enraged]

i jumped a firetruck yesterday, off the top of a parkade. i got $10,000 for a unique stunt!

[Paradox]

damn, thats one hell of a jump, was it a perfect landing? might be worth bonus points... :D

well i installed S-AFC today, it was a pain in the ass to install, but its in and functional, now ive just gotta tune the thing, guess i cant get a really good setup without a dyno, but i figure i can get close enough through trial and error.

i think im gonna make a quick website on how to install one of these into a MK3 supra, too, since i couldnt find any good websites explaining the installation.

the Apexi instructions that come with it are 3 books -- all in japanese, and the online documentation is a mess, doesnt really explain much except gives a semi-decent wiring diagram (which makes all the ECU plugs look upside down).

[Enraged]

cool. you should make a more permanent location. well, at least i would. knowing me, id custom fiberglass a spot in the dash :D

[Paradox]

it actually fits in there pretty snug, im sure if i started cutting away some of the excess i could get the front of the AFC plush, i dunno if im ready to start cutting up my dash just yet.

its a funky little unit, is displays intake manifold vacuum/boost Pressure, air flow capacity, intake manifold pressure, karman frequency, engine RPM, throttle Position, and air Flow correction %

right now i dont have the AFC set or tuned to change anything, it does auto correct airflow to a certain extent which is making the car feel like it has more low end power, i punched it off the line earlier and did a bit of a burn-out/drift...

i figure i should be able to tune it down a lot tho, i be running rich!

[NashMan]

now his blazer is nick named jumpy the trail blazer



looks neat i wounder if i will ever get one of thous mabye later

i don't want make my car that powerfull i want some control

[NashMan]

hey tiby i nee ot know when you are getting in that down pipe caues if not i will get one custom made wheni get my hole exhaust down

[Enraged]

still the same time frame as i told you last time, abotu 8 weeks, hopefully less....

[Paradox]

that defon based pipe should be crazy stuff, if you look on the suprasport page for the turbo elbow extension you can see the difference in size, should make for much faster spool up and less restriction.

id get one, but to tell you the truth im finishing spending money on engine mods, after my turbo and boost controller gets here, im done. im gonna be pushing more power than what the rest of the car can handle, if i keep modding (hehe as if i'd stop.. goddamn supra!) it'll be suspension and interior stuff.

just talked to mechanic today about getting in some steel braided brake lines and ST sway bars too ;)

[deathangel]

thats where i have my boost controller it fits so well but i'm going to install them The S-AFC & The AVC-R in the ashtray I mean so that when i close the ashtray it's all hidden it will slide down and out when you open the ashtray

[Paradox]

uhh how do you expect to fit both in the ashtray? hehe, the S-AFC alone takes up all the space :(

[NashMan]

hehe if i had one of thous i whould pop it in the center console i find that places to be the best that why no one can play whiht the settings on yae an dit will make you car look stock


ps i getting new toy for my car very soon can you guess it gona cost me thou heheheh

[Enraged]

hmm... what about having them both pop out of the dash liek the new Lexus models have for the nav screen? hehe lots of work, but it would be cool.

hey paradox, what kind of lag will your new turbo have?

[Paradox]

yeah that would be sweet to have em fold out and up, have two displays right there, hehehe, prolly be expensive to do it nicely tho :(

as for new turbo lag, it shouldnt be as bad as a t3/t4 hybrid or other similar turbos.. thats what ive heard, atleast.

it will however be a hell of a lot more fun than my burned out CT26 with 130,000k on it :D i just hope i dont kill myself, hehe at 15psi and up that thing could make some serious power

[NashMan]

i love my new toy is so fucken sweet

i like this mod i did

[Paradox]

what'd you mod this time?

or do we have to guess? :D

[Enraged]

knowing him, he mounted a coffee can as an exhaust tip, and probably some "Powered by Honda" stickers for some extra kick at high RPMs.

[deathangel]

they both can fit in the ashtray that guy John has it done they fit in horizontally

[NashMan]

well you drag it out of me i have a apexi n1 muffler and stright pipe 3 ins all mandle bends


it has sweet sound to boot

[Paradox]

what year supra does this john guy drive? black supra right? does it ride on 17's? i was out cruising with my buddy few weeks ago, and we saw a black supra on 17's, my buddy was like "whoa. that looks like your car!" hehe, nice car tho, what year is it?


where'd u get the N1 can from, NashMan? i need a muffler that isnt gay lookin'

its hard to get them without the entire catback tho

[NashMan]

were did i get my muffler well i got it from lordco they had it is stock to but but nto any more there have some magana flow and easy to get but eh apexi one whoud be long weight plus i all ready have it you don't want some thing i have right

[Paradox]

hey, we both have washers on the wastegate, our supras share some stuff in common! :)

[NashMan]

well yes


but they do have nice magna flow i was thinking on getting it but the apexi cought my eye and i was hooked so i bought it


and now i am happy as clam

[Enraged]

i have a magnaflow, check out http://www.magnaflow.com/03mirrorrace.htm, i have #14835. i might buy the piping this weekend and built the catback on the weekend. just have to get the bolts torched off because they are all rusted on.

[NashMan]

sweet hope it work's out great for you toby





now here is littel poll who do you think has done the most mods to there car in order



i think it is tossup for me and paradox but i think he has me by hair but i don't know

then comes dark angle / enraged/silermrk 3



do you think that is in good order

[Paradox]

i think its safe to say you guys got me beat in the stereo department..

Nashman has more suspension stuff, all i got for suspension mods is cusco strut bar and H&R springs

as for engine/power mods, id say im at the top... i dont know of any others around here with the lex afm/550cc injectors + MKIV TT fuel pump mod.

as i said before, after i get my turbo and maybe a AFPR im done engine stuff... thats more than enough power for me!

;)

[Enraged]

after that, upgrade the tranny with a higher stall? then what? some sway bars, better struts, RXB?

i dont have much mods yet, just waiting on a few things. i think im just goin to do intake/exhaust/boost controller, then focus on suspension. i might also rebuild a shortblock, to swap in later on. i also want to focus on my stereo install, as that will take at least a month working on it whenever possible.

[Enraged]

oh ya, and i want some god damn rims too, sawblades are fugly! maybe go with some 18s if i save some money.

[NashMan]

well you got to see where i came fro i was na now i am turbo so i counting that as upgrade



ps whould you ever part whiht you strut bar

[NashMan]

oooh one other thing is i lieki the way my car looks caues it looks like shite but drives like a a god


as for fule ect don't need it yet i will soon and i got good deal going on whiht inter cooler as well i may have to fab it on so i may not go after it but has weee bigger core and flows better as well it is out of anther car i forgot which one give me sec oh well i to tired me sleep

i am out of the audio game now don't want teh weight

[Paradox]

yeah, im still looking into the tranny build up.. im not totally sure im going to get done, prolly go with a 3000+rpm stall, higher line pressure and maybe even a complete rebuild

i'll figure that out if my current tranny blows on me

i do however want to get black carpet and paint my interior, also looking into strut bars and steel braided brake lines. and for cheap stuff, heat sheild and CAI

and hells no i wouldnt part with my strut bar, that thing made a pretty big difference in cornering, its also good to help the tires from wearing out prematurely. I would however suggest getting one for yourself, not sure is cusco is the best brand, but there isnt too many choices.

thats cool that you did the swap to turbo though man, im not sure if you could call it a mod as much as a replacement... but its better than rolling a 3500+lb car around with 200hp... heh

[JDM_CTR]

supras are cool

[NashMan]

well i was thinking on getting strut bar but my car is pretty stiff in the coner one thing i really want is the hks pilow monts thous are bad ass

but i better stop modding and pay some bills


and if i do get stut ba ri goig to get front and rear and the pillow monts and then my seption will have to be recamber to what i like again


i spent alot of time on my settings and i will never tell what they are caues it makes my car spealice

[Paradox]

changing your camber settings isnt gonna do you much good for a daily driver man. its only gonna wear out your tires faster :(

[NashMan]

oh it does but yes it will ware bit but not much now how i have it set


if you were at the speed way you whould under stand on how my car is very easy to control when raceing


that the bueaty about it


the only thing i whould really love whould be ploy bushing for the a arms and for the turnbucles that whould be pimp but no one makes em so far but i herd they will be poping out soon

[Paradox]

jeff @ suprasport is putting together a low-buck solution for the HKS pillow mounts, im not sure when it'll be finished, but thats an idea for you.

[NashMan]

yae i read that but i think the hks one will be better caues it has etra stiff plate to go whith it as in the stock type that that guy is makeing is useign factory ect just replaceign the rumber pieca

[Paradox]

hey any of you guys know a good place to get stuff polished with ceramic coating, preferably around north saanich.. i hate dealing with downtown companies.

[NashMan]

as shinny chrome like polish


or powered coating ect


if t is poishing you can do it your self just pic up a kit for lord co if they have any and if they don't then they will tell you were you can pic it up but i pretty sure they have some thing like that



as for powered coating you can do it your self as well only if you have oven

i done it once in my life for some bike parts and works great and easy to do now what is it call thou ah call lordco they will know the name caues they can get the stuff in stock


as for heat ceramick have no clue where you can get that done but i know you can buy the mess form lordco and maybe crappy tire


but just give couple calls around you will find out what you are looking for


oh just remmber the name of the powder coatins thing name it is made buy easton ro some thign liek that

[Enraged]

for ceramic coating, i phoned around awhile back, noone knew where to get it done in victoria. theres a shop in vancouver that does JetHot coating, it comes out looking like chrome.

hmmmm wallet full of shit... HERE IT IS! ok, dont have the shop name, but its in Delta. 604 - 946 - 7761, i was told to talk to Ed about JetHot coating. i seem to remember that 2.5" intercooler piping was about ... just called them, $20-25 per foot. ill get my IC hardpipes either JetHot coated, or powdercoated. powdercoating is cheap, and there are thousands of colors to choose from.

as for polishing, ill agree with nashman, call lordco. a freind of mine did some parts this way, turned out very nice. if you dont want to do it yourself, look in the Yellow Pages under Metal Plating/Polishing. there is a place in sidney that offers very reasonable prices.

[Paradox]

naw i can do it myself, but what the hell do i need? i dont have a polishing wheel or anything... ???? drill with polishing type bit ?

i want to polish my turbo when it gets here

that jet hot looks cool for doing exhaust manifold or something, since they do both the inside and out of it. but i cant imagine its cheap

[NashMan]

it is kit you can buy and if they don't have the kit then they will tell you how to do it


oh and you know there is new thing that i just read about cermick that you can do at home


again by useing the over but i wounder how well it works

[Paradox]

i just solved my polishing problem i believe, i'll be house sitting my grandparents place up island pretty soon, and hes got all sorts of tools i can use to polish. there isnt a bench polisher, but hes got drills and a sweet ass dremel tool. im sure i can make some good use out of that.

which brings me to another point... i drove up to parksville today for a bit, then drove back..... had absolutely no problems with the car, even tho i was pushing a steady 120k+ the entire way there and back. temp gauge never went above average running level even in todays heat....

all in all a good cruise, i wouldnt want to do it in any other car :D

[Enraged]

you goin to be driving up in the first week of july? im goin campin with some freinds, it would be cool to drive up there with another supra.

[NashMan]

do youy guys whan tto join up whihtt he rx7 meet this saterday at 7 pm that is if they lets us tag along and see some nice rx7's and stuff

[Paradox]

Enraged, i dunno when i'll be driving up there, i'll prolly be going back and fourth fairly often, im not 100% sure on that one tho..

as for the Rx7 meet.. i might be interested in dropping by and checking out some cars, altho those guys dont seem too friendly towards supra owners :p

[NashMan]

baaa there a great crowd i talked to most of em when i was at the meet


any way looks liek i have to replace my brake4s caue smine are grinding what fun eh oh well i knew they needed replaceing well i will most likly go power slot other then actory cross drill only if i get a better claper but i find there not many to choose from besi9de mrk 4 converion that cost alot



power slot
steel braided line maybe
shose maybe trd don't know as of yet



any way tobs how much you pay for your brakes any way

[Paradox]

ive been working on getting some steal braided brake lines myself for the past week or so....

powerslot were something like 240 bux?? christ i have no idea.

im happy with my brembo cross drilled/slotted for now, but im going to powerslots when they need to be replaced.

ohh, i painted some stuff under my hood today, basically just the battery tie down and the other plastic cover thing on the opposite side. ive got a ton of blue stuff happening, i just need to polish it all up and it'll look dope!

getting new o2 sensor soon too... maybe that'll help my car from idling like shite!

let us know about that Rx meet tho, NashMan. Toby you up for going? i might just stop by or something..

[NashMan]

yae if your car is doing that it can be timeing or 02 senser and i beleav you timeing right so most likly your 02


as for brakes that sucks for me at lest
but they will be fixed and better then ever

even if i don't buy power slot ect

[Enraged]

my brakes were $240 i think, but they took 3 weeks to get to me.... as for the meet, this coming saturday? maybe, i cant if its teh one after that though.

[Paradox]

anyone going to duncan to watch auto x tonight?

[NashMan]

what time i may go but ti got to finshe my brakes

[SilverMK3]

Hey nashman, I have an extra set of rotors/calipers/pads if you want. They're in good condition but still attached to the crossmember I pulled out of my car. Its a cheap solution if you don't want to get powerslots right away. They're free if you want them.

http://portfolio.itas.mala.bc.ca/dnunez/carwash/crossmembers.jpg

[NashMan]

i may take you on that offer but i got to get the prices for all the new braks and such and see if i will cost me to much



oh yae i weighed my car this today after me and paradox whent to the auto x


i clocked in at ummm all let you guess the avger supra weighs in at 3780



now how much do you think i weigh in at oh i can't hold it i clocked in at 3380 pounds

whiht pretty much full tank of gas as well pretty good for supra eh

[Paradox]

thats pretty damn light for a supra, does your car have A/C?

funny, i was going to weight my car on the way home too, but it looked like there was still people at the weight scale by elk lake, so i didnt stop :(

hehe, on the way back from duncan i think i just about hit the sweet spot on my S-AFC. it sure pulled hard at higher rev's. that R/T pipe is making my engine run cooler, too. gotta love it.... hehe i want your exhaust tho NashMan.. yours has like no bends in it compared to mine, and it looks dope :D

[Enraged]

damn i should have gone with you guys. did you both race, or watch?

ALLERGIES SUCK! i just woke up and i cant breath!

[Enraged]

oh ya and HOLY CRAP thats light. i weighed in at somethign like 3800! although, minus me thats about 3570 hehe but ryans car is an NA hardtop, so that probably helps alot. i couldnt live without my targa, especially on a day like yesterday.

[NashMan]

yae i was cooking in there so i had to drive quit fast to cool me down


hard top vs taga targa are lighter i have no abs no ac seat are gone



i going to get thing carpet typ sound deaing that very light and cancles nocie kinda like dyno matt but bit diffent



oh yae here are the pics of ours cars at auto x and my new sweet exhuast


oh yae thanxs abotut eh exhuast looks pretty bad ass if you ask me

http://www.realityexit.org/autox

[Paradox]

my freakin' forehead is all sunburned from driving around with the targa off yesterday! arggh, the one draw back of targas -- mutant sunburns.

enraged we didnt race, err atleast not in duncan... just went and watched, was pretty cool

do they have the auto x there every thursday?

[NashMan]

yes it is ever thursday that i know of


u must love my highway driven the lane swaper hehehe

but only if i got good slip start i hit my wheel and said i was toast caues you where more then car langth away still wold have beat me but eh it all fun and games


ps how much you scrape whe you go over speed bomps caue si notise some thing funny on you down pip there was clamp that was doing noting u joint clamp



so who is all going to wallmart this saterday at 6
i will most likly be there i like to look at cars heheheh

oy one neat thing thou that was htiht like just about full tank of gas too so i think i am aout 3330 pounds or so

but sounds right

[Enraged]

who was that in the RX7 thread that said your car was 3560 or something? was that your buddy?

[Paradox]

i scraped pretty bad in the wal mart parking lot... umm i better go look under the car now and take a look. those goddamn speed bumps were painted black??? wtf! i didnt see em coming

arggh... hope i didnt smash anything

[EightTrack]

Nashman's supra was 3564 lbs with him in it.

[NashMan]

ok greg use you math


$$$$ x 2.2 = 3388


now try it on you computer and you will get the same price as me

thank you very much


nether did i my friend mike said speed bump and spiked the brakes as you saw


but what you scared was the u exhuast clamp ony uo down pipe why it is there i have no clue

[EightTrack]

Haha, don't act like you actually knew the conversion rate.

We're both right, 3564 minus 3388 is 176 lbs. That's pretty freakin light for a Supra. Still weighs a ton though. :D

[Paradox]

hrmm im updating my server

so auto x pics moved to
http://www.realityexit.org/autox/index.html

incase anybody was wondering..

ohh and i checked under my car, there didnt seem to be any damage, but yeah you're right. the lowest part on the car is the clamp and bolts at the bottom of the downpipe... i wonder if that clamp can be put on upside down or sideways, so the bolts arent exposed at the bottom?

might make it a little easier for the next time i run into them evil half invisible speed bumps! :D

[Paradox]

Originally posted by EightTrack
Haha, don't act like you actually knew the conversion rate.

We're both right, 3564 minus 3388 is 176 lbs. That's pretty freakin light for a Supra. Still weighs a ton though. :D

man.. i dont even want to know how much my car weighs..

i dont really care aslong as it goes fast :)

[Paradox]

who is cory depass and why does that name ring such a bell?

[Paradox]

ha! its deathangel!



buddy of mine knows you! his name is Josh, his gf works with you or something?

anyways, come to autox next thursday!

sorry but he mentioned ur name and i couldnt get it outta my head, it was totally stuck..

[NashMan]

so you are not going to teh one on sunday at the arena at 6 there paradox what your real name again muray or some thing like that right and are you going to show up at wall mart at 6 today

[Enraged]

i want to go to the autox on sunday, but i have to work :( ill be there on thursday. what do you guys want to do, meet at the subway/payless by the highway there?

[NashMan]

yae that whould be cool

that is where me and para dox met kinda funny too did not think i whould meet him on the highway but eh suprs good goo togeter

[Paradox]

yeah that was funny, i was driving down the highway there and saw a white supra about to turn left ... then i looked over not thinking it would be NashMan cuz he said he had left quite a bit earlier, then he waved at me and i pulled over.. haha good conincedence. :)


i think im gonna do the clay bar to my car before next weeks auto-x. also gonna get some better pictures this time i hope... too bad the shutter speed on the fuji digi cam is soo slow :( gonna have to get some of those lithium batteries or something.

[Enraged]

maybe ill detail mine too, try and make it look decent. i also want to try that paint stripper for teh wheels, a few guys said it turns out looking like chrome.

[Paradox]

if you strip off the paint, wont it rust?

that would look cool tho.. im thinking of putting my sawblades back on sometime soon for the hell of it, since my back tires are wearing down and it'd be fun to drift around and smoke the stock 16's hehe ;)

[Enraged]

they are aluminum. you can always put on a clearcoat to protect them.