[NashMan]

well hey guys my car was about to be back on the road but i fell out of car going 40 klicks so now i got 3rd dagree road rash on my hands and arms such
:(
so now i can't work for like 2 or more days and when i can work on my car next i don't know


any sliver mrk 3 did you ever find out your prob whith your car .



enraged so when you getting thous down pipes caue si wan tone and i got the moneny in cash :D

[VanIsleRev]

how did you manage to just "fall out of a car"?
:confused:

[booter22]

how did you fall out of the car?

[Enraged]

hahahah i still cant beleive you fell out of the car.

my buddy was riding on the back of a car. going 50. nice and smooth, holdin on with 2 hands. says "thsi isnt so bad", holds on with one hand. "thsi is pretty easy" holds on with a finger for balance. "wow, this is cool", lets go. the guy driving shifts, my buddy falls off the back of the car going 50. minor road rash and 1 broken arm. and he was sober. whats your excuse?

ill email him about the status of the downpipe.

[91CRXSi]

Wow...thats PRETTY stupid!!

[Enraged]

anyone want to buy my supra? im thinking of getting a differnt one.....

[NashMan]

well my friend whould not stop driven and slip off littel fuck i was going 40 or 50 i have no clue but at lest i get couple days off work hehehe


why whould you wan to sell your supra

all buy your bov hehehehe or trade for some thing

[Enraged]

trade for your big amp hehe j/k

well this other one i found is good condition from the outside, i would have to have it checked out though.

and i would have to sell mine first.

[Quickfini]

You fell outta your car?!?!?

[Paradox]

you got pics of ur supra, enraged? is it 5spd?

[Paradox]

good idea about the supra chat thread, too, Nashman. supra peeps are a tad different from the honda drivers :D

[Enraged]

nah, no pics of my supra. ya, 5 spd. i was thinking i would sell it and get this other one, but i would rather just keep mine and keep modding it.

ill give you the number of the car i was thinking about though if you want, its grey, 87 or 88, auto, turbo. not sure on the interior, most likely blue though.

[Paradox]

blue? arggh, wish there were more black interior'ed MK3's around

[SilverMK3]

I dunno, I like having a gray interior.... black would look kinda weird. I saw a blue MK3 on eBay that had a maroon interior, it kinda hurt the eyes :rolleyes:.

[Enraged]

im changing my interior peice by peice this summer. first the hatch and carpet when i install the stereo, and maybe the doors, and then later on the dash and headliner. seats will be replaced with blue corbeaus i think.... its not that hard to do for the plastic panels at least. just sand them lightly, a bit of primer, and a nice coat of black paint. the dash will be the hardest part, i can either get dye for it, or there is paint for vinyl, but im not sure if it will match the rest. the leather inserts on the doors and such will get replaced with colormatched fiberglass peices, probably silver to match the outside when i paint that.

[NashMan]

well i m going to post pic's of my supra eheheh this i what it looks like now


what you guys think she is killer i am trying to go for the langford look think i got it yet or do i need ot put here on bloacks still

[Enraged]

lookin good man. if you really want the langford look, you have to have a primered fender and one black door on your white car.

[fuzebox]

Hey Enraged, do you think you could record your HKS SSBOV and post it up?

I want to hear the SSBOV on a MKIII...

Maybe I should ask on supraforums.com...

[NashMan]

here is me in my car befor i did the rewire that was a waste of my time well kinda

[Paradox]

damn Nashman, good luck getting your car back together

i'm gonna make a short clip of my car and HKS SSBOV soon....... i'll post that, but im sure by now you've already heard one, theres a bunch of websites out there with supra's and diff BOV mp3s.

me and my buddy installed my boost gauge yesterday, looks like im running at about 10psi without a boost controller or lotek POD :(

[NashMan]

well i got to still get some things worked out but getting there

i whould have lots of money but there a think called beer and i weman and hard to mange the car and beer and weman


we should have one big meet up on day

mine will be the one that looks rough but flys like dream well so far hehehe

[Paradox]

how long did it take you to rip all that apart? looks like it took some effort.

im sure i'll have to do that one of these days, or next time i play with any electronics or stereo install...

guess after you've done it once, it'll be easy as pie next time around though :)

[Paradox]

anybody ever tried this?

ps - not my car

[NashMan]

nope i have never tried thgat the fastest i got in my na was 225 down the high towards town i let off soem caue slike i was like thinking to my self


now if i was to get pulled over i whould be yes officer my foot fell on the pedle and chould nto get up


but that is the faste started at like the exit in langford and let off the gasby the new kids jail that is poping up


oh yae my car did not shake in any way i love that


now i wounder how fast i can go in my turbo hehehe

[Paradox]

yeah getting pulled over would suck going that fast... im always more fearing for my life tho. hehe

ive had my car going pretty damn fast before, there was no rattles or shakes either, only other fast car ive owned was a '85 Rx7 and that thing shook like mad going 160+ i think it had tranny probs.

supra's smooth at any speed.. which is a nice change!

[NashMan]

i will have to see you car one of these days how old are you stuff i am 21 in like 3 mouths


and you have to see my best moible


plus do you know any one that needs like some parts and stuff
caue si got like buch of parts off my old engine that i do not need any more liek head ect

[Enraged]

i can do that in my car (the picture). take the needles off, and when the engien is off, place the tach needle at 3000 rpm,a nd the speeodo needle at abotu 50. not hard to do.... after taking off the needles, my fuel gauge is still messed....

[NashMan]

what are you talking about i don't get what you are doing


any ways you want my amp eh why not the subs and do you have any subs or stuff liek that

[Enraged]

my current setup is a Pioneer CD player, JBC Eq (same one as in the sound solutions demo truck), Massive RS 40.4, Boston Acoustics Rally Series 6.5s, and 2 10" MassiveCompetition Series subs. still havent hooked up the subs, im getting a security system before i install the stereo.

[Paradox]

its not that hard to do for the plastic panels at least. just sand them lightly, a bit of primer, and a nice coat of black paint.

what kind of primer? thats good thinkin'....

[NashMan]

i whould never paint parts in my car it just whould not match much

[Enraged]

i think regular auto primer would work. you can get aerosol stuff as well.

ill have black interior with burgandy seats for awhile, but i dont care.

[NashMan]

what about the roof and all the cloth and such you going to die it and stuff or some thing ou leav it


the only intor i have sean that i liked was gay and black on but not much was changed but it was kinda good togetter

[Enraged]

the headliner and carpet are fairly easy to replace. the carpet on the doors will come off when i rebuidl the doors for my stereo, and the leather inserts will be replace with silver painted inserts, to match the dash and stereo install.

ive got it all planned out, just have to get some cash for it....

[deathangel]

so yah sorry i haven't posted in awhile i just finished working 8days for 9 hours a day and no time for myself

my car has a dead spark plug wire so i just ordered aurora wires they are made by the same people that make magnecore i will get them tomorrow and i will tell you guys how it goes!

[NashMan]

well good to here just got ot get my car togetter now whiht one hand joy if you have not sean the pic of my car it funny


i gona try to do it today but it rain so i gona start when is goes down to light rian ro some thing i fixing my old harness i just replaceing the wire and i got o some plus from toyota kinda shocked me when they said they had some so just going to rebuild the harness

[Paradox]

why'd you rip apart your dash Nashman?

[NashMan]

well the wireing harness whent up in somke so i had ot fix it and i did not use the harnes si bought caue sit was the wroung one but i got the littel wire clips for toyota and just remade the wireing harness so it is all good now

just put here in all the crap and it all work so it just great no off rev or nothing

[Paradox]

hehe, check out my ghetto boost gauge install... arggh, cant wait til i get my POD!

[Enraged]

my muffler arrived today.. fuckin sweet! unfortunetly, its $157 their cost, so about $210 or something now, but since it was their messup, i get it at cost! brislands is the best!

[Paradox]

sweet!

is that just the muffler or all the piping too?

[booter22]

fuck i hate german cars.. thats all i have to say ... had to say it somwhere .. corey was that the prob in your car... just wires?

[Enraged]

that was just the muffler. once i get my downpipe (2-3 weeks i hope) ill do the dp-back exhaust. should be abour $100 in materials, then going to have to pay someone with a lift to put it together and weld it., in total, i dont see it costing more than $400 for the dp-back (aluminized steel piping).

[Paradox]

sounds like a damn good price..

i did 3" catback first mod. holy christ did it ever make a difference, stock supra's are fairly quiet but after yanking off stock intake/exhaust they start to wake up heh, gotta love it.

[Paradox]

you guys know the best 12V source i can hook into for a boost gauge? i was thinking about just going into my CD deck's source for now.

ive heard of people wiring into the foglight switch? good idea or bad?

[NashMan]

na the best place to hook it up is to the dimmer it wokrs whiht you lights best place just undew one scew plus it off and soder it in the 2 green ons at he ones you are looking for reson why i just hook mine up

if you don't have meater just take you + - wire to one of rht egreen ones tell it turns on and there you go you found which is wich then sodler her in


it is better then haven it on the hole time

[Paradox]

ok cool, i'll try the dimmer switch

you think i could run both boost and EGT gauges off that one source without blowing fuses or anything?

[NashMan]

yae it should be fine and if you blow fuse then you just buy fuse that is .5 higher but blowing fuse naa can't see that happen

if you are re scared you can put reistor in it or you can just like not turn you dimmer all the way up but it should be fine

[KultZero]

Got a question for you Supra guys. Is there any difference between the MkIII years?

In terms of the performance, exterior, interior, options... anything?

I'm looking to buy a MkIII Supra Turbo, but I'm having a hard time finding any of the 90/91's for under $8000, so if there's no difference between them and the earlier MkIII years then I can go with an 86.5-89 withouth any problems.

Thanks in advance.

[NashMan]

oh and paradox i did the math and they should not be prob at all nothing so don't worry



as for supra 86.5 to 92



they have kinda changed alot there are 3 eninge that came on the car one is the 3 liter 7m gte 3 liter 7mge us mostly 2.4 liter1jz jap only 91 to 92
then there is the or what ever mad elike very very few of em 200 hp whiht turbo 2 liter piff and the eninge changed gasket here and there

body style changed in 89
but as in all around perf not mucg


like pergesto streeing cam ein at like 89 or 90 i think abs came in 87 whiht the turbo but i can think right now but there just abotu all the same but littel things here and there

[Paradox]

KultZero, you'll have a bit of a hard time finding a good condition 89+ for under 8k. maybe try and get something older and then get the bumpers, light covers, spoiler and such from a 89+

major changes are hard to spot unless you know your supra's, but if you see two parked beside eachother its easy enough to spot....

89+ body style(also my car) (http://h24-70-200-171.gv.shawcable.net/supra/pics/march01-sup.jpg)

86.5-88 style (http://www.speedtoys.com/~jeboyles/images/front_left2.jpg)

this guy did the conversion from a 87 to 89+ body style..... altho i think he crashed it (http://www.geocities.com/turbo7mgte/suppics.html)

hope that sorta helps...

--
btw thanks Nashman, i'll probably wire up the boost gauge soon

[deathangel]

so just put on my new wires and that was the cause my car is no longer running on 4 cylinders and my high boost problem is virtually gone it's cool

and as for the differences between the years except for the cosmetisc differences there are a few perf. differences as well from 89 up you get an extra 2hp and 4ft/lbs of torque because of wastegate upgrades, but the 87-88 have a higher fuel cutoff than the other years the 89 cut off is set to around 10psi where the earliers are set at around 11 to 12 woo hoo

[NashMan]

it was not waste gate up grades far as i know they have diffent cams in the yeasr after might be waste gate but i herd it the cames plaus if you call toyota about you cam there are 4 of em to choose from so it not waste gate far as i know


as for fule cut off never herd that befor caues i know buddy they bouth have the same year and one has 9 psi cut off and the oter has 14 and they have the same mods and such


that very on the car they never sean the year thing come in it might becaues of the cams i don't knot it maybe be part of it


oh ya ei think i got bhg oh well more of my time wasted on my car what fun and the funny part is i like working on my car

so i can care less

so i goin to do my numbers toommmrow or if lazy bring it to some one cheak but i am cheep too so i might have to do it my self

[Paradox]

the wastegate was pushed forward in 89+ thats definetaly true

good to hear ya got ur supra back together too man

[KultZero]

Other than the airdam, I don't see much of a cosmetic difference between the years.

What years would you guys recommend?

[Paradox]

depends how much money you want to spend... if you plan to mod the car at all, you're gonna need to replace the headgasket and that can get expensive. so if you're tight for cash get a 87-88 and save the leftover cash for head gasket and mods, its also far easier to find a 5spd in those years...

i personally would go for 89+, the minor updates between the years make them look cleaner. also you're more likely to find a 89+ with lower mileage, so the head gasket may still be good for awhile. but then again, if its 5spd you're after, it can be a pain to find one in 5spd + good condition :(

[KultZero]

Which brings me to another question. I know the supras have head gasket problems. Is the problem that the Supras burn out head gaskets quickly or that the stock head gasket wasn't great?

Because if the problem is that the stock HG is crappy, then it would make sense to buy a car with a few clicks so that it'd be likely that the HG had been replaced by the original owner.

[NashMan]

you know the only thing i got to say about you buying a supra is

GO DRIVE ONE AND YOU WILL KNOW THE RESONE WHY WE ALL LIKE EM SO MUCH !!!!!!!!


go to hundi fo victoria they have 88 supra traga top red 5 speed trubo whith need head gasket and such go taker for spin and you will see why we like em



that all i got ot say looks me nohitng to me i like the way they feel and hold the road

lets put it this i way i just abought bought rx7 turbo 2 89 but i did not like the thing it just felt to fucked up clutch was crappy gass feel was no that good i just like supra



NOW GO DRIVE ONE WHO AGREES WITH ME
it is the only way you can find out if you like em

[NashMan]

hey has any one sean intial d befor it is anime street racing show and it very cool if you guys have never sena it befor i sujest you do i have hte hole dang series and such on cd and stuff all the movies and eps this ant no kiddy show ether


but there is one thing bab about the show after you are done watching ti you will want o run tot you car and race liek mad man


trust me it doe sit did it me

[Paradox]

theres a red 88 5spd for sale with new head gasket in town? hell, that solves KZ's problem for sure, definetaly just go test drive that.

NashMan's right, go test drive one and then try not to buy it. sooo much nicer feel than other cars and definetaly no lack of power.

everything else is just transportation. :)

[NashMan]

i cheak out that car caue si test drove it befor the guy traded it in (chould not afford the gas bought it whiht bhg for 9000 too to boot )


any who the turbo does have some play in in and note that to em as well if you ever wna tot buy it all so it has bean painted i looked at it really well i don't remmber it all but has new gas tank as well


so it has bean painted so cheak the wheel wells see if they are all meatle and not fales caues if it is it was cheep fix and will rust again


rust in like cancer the only way tot get rid of it is cut it out

[SilverMK3]

These are the differences I know of:

86.5: Only NA (7M-GE) version available @ 200hp / 185ft-lb (9.2:1 compression)

87: Turbo (7M-GTE) introduced @ 230hp / 246ft-lb (8.4:1 compression)

88: nothing significant

89: Updated body styling (front clip, tail-lights, spoiler); new interior (wheel, temp controls); updated 7M-GTE motor (232hp / 254ft-lb)

90: Nothing significant

91: New 5-star wheels

92: Nothing significant

Options:
TEMS: Toyota Electronically Modulated Suspension (87+)
Targa top: also known as "sport roof" (86.5+)
Sun roof: factory option after 88
TTDS: Toyota Theft Deterrant System (USA only) (86.5+)

I think all of them had A/C and power-everything.... not sure tho.

[Paradox]

uhmm here's the differences explained in detail :)

http://www.musclecarclub.com/cars/imports/toyota-supra/toyota-supra.shtml

http://students.db.erau.edu/~haalandl/supras/supra-NA/specs/index.html

[KultZero]

Good info here guys, thanks ;)

I'm amassing quite a file of stuff on supras already.

And I've got 2 test drives next week.

[NashMan]

well today i going to go pick up my new bov caues mine is broke now only if can find risde down there to pic the the fucker up

[Paradox]

what kind of BOV did u get?

[deathangel]

today was pay day woo hoo!!!!!

I'm going to pick up my AVC-R tmrw
i can't wait Oh and i'm gonna get a custom radiator and remove my AC as well i got targa who need an AC system

[NashMan]

the one that woooo it sabb one my broke like 1 mouth ago

(later on i get better on ) aka hks or the blitz one got better thing to buy like down pipe and mine is like 2.5 over sized na exhuast will not do

any ways it was in stock did not want to weight for toyota's plus it was more exp


it it there so so don't shock wave my turbo caues that will caues it to get some play init so i got one

now to change the head gasket oh well it fun any way

i just wounder if my block will still be good eough so i can put hks in it but most likly it will not be but you never know

but i will most likly just get toyota one and run arp


i only going to boost about like 10 to 14 psi and it will hold for a long time if seats right and the block and head are done right


now alls i got ot find is good shop for the machine work

[KultZero]

"Import Racer!" magazine is running a multiple part series on modding out an '88 Supra.

[Paradox]

88? wow sweet, what months issue?

[Enraged]

newest one, its still on the shelves. hold on, ill search supraforums, someone had the article scanned...

[Enraged]

http://www.geocities.com/davidag02/MK3art1.html

thats the link. now you dont have to buy it! he will be scanning in each issue, so keep an eye on the site

[Enraged]

maybe ill paint my car black.....


http://www.supraforums.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=331941

http://www.supraforums.com/attachment.php?s=&postid=331996

[Zeus]

that black car looks awesome from the side......very sleek....mmmm

[Paradox]

the wheels look gross in the first pic, i like em better with the real look

[Paradox]

blacks a good color, i always thought it looked dope on supra's... too bad its such a bitch to keep clean :(

plus black matches everything so ya dont have to fiddle around with making your mods match up with exterior.. what color do u have now?

[Enraged]

burgandy... ugh... with burgandy leather interior.. double ugh.... interior is goin black over the summer

[NashMan]

i might paint my stockers black. black wheels and white car look nice


here is photo shop done of it kinda ok to far away but looks kinda good

you will have to trun your gama up to see it better

[KultZero]

What year is the supra in those linked pics? It's hard to tell without seeing the front grill.

[Paradox]

Nashman NOOOO! hehe black wheels make white cars look like ghetto mobiles, or something Lam would drive :D

[Paradox]

What year is the supra in those linked pics? It's hard to tell without seeing the front grill.

89+, look at the spoiler on the back, how it sorta curves into the body is one way to tell, the spoilers beforehand werent connected on the sides.

also around the wheel wells its a little more curved..


Enraged, i hear ya man.. burgundy gets annoying. we need a cheap fix that doesnt look horrible... i'll let you paint your interior before i try it, haha :)

[Enraged]

ya, i need to get a security system, then the stereo goes in, and thats when ill start changin it over. ill have to get new seats though, and re-cover the rears, or at least dye them. ill put blue racing seats in the front.

[deathangel]

Couldn't pickup my damn AVC-R yet maybe tmrw cause the guy who gave me the really good price wasn't working today!

DAMN!!!!

[Paradox]

ya, i need to get a security system, then the stereo goes in, and thats when ill start changin it over. ill have to get new seats though, and re-cover the rears, or at least dye them. ill put blue racing seats in the front.

just rip out your back seats, thats what im doing

they arent much use.. unless you tend to drive around with a bunch of midgets in the back.

Couldn't pickup my damn AVC-R yet maybe tmrw cause the guy who gave me the really good price wasn't working today!

DAMN!!!!

hehe that sux man, that looks like a dope boost controller. i doubt i'll get a electronic boost controller for awhile unless i get mad spikes under heavy boost.. who knows, gotta get my injectors in before i start thinking about high boost, im running about 9 psi now with just a few washers on wastegate and JMBC on the way (err so says suprasport, i ordered that damn thing in dec.) im hoping to go to about 18 lbs

[deathangel]

yeah next paycheck is a lexus AFM!
I can't wait!

Then i'm gonna save up and get a complete engine rebuild heres what i'm getting:

JE forged pistons
Crower Billet rods
AEM cam gears
HKS stopper type metal head gasket
Stillen light weight flywheel
Total seal piston rings
RC 550cc injectors
ARP head bolts
ARP crank bolts
ARP connecting rod bolts
MSD DIS4 ignition module
walbro 255L/hr fuel pump

And there already on order HEHEHE
god i love being broke but having a nice fast car

[NashMan]

my car is 86.5 as for the curves they is no such thing toyota only made to chassies one for turbo and one for na but in 88 they found they chould not keep the demade up for the turbo caues and disede to just mkae on chassie ma70 the other one had diffetn name but i can't remmber it right now to many beer ehheheh



so have you hooked up you boost gauge and stuff


what i am doing right now is polshing my intake and 300 pipe and altnator right now looks sweet then i going to paint my vavle cover to match my car hehehe white then i got some hose to put on red baby to match my vavle cover as well


as for my boost controler i most likly goig to get one off ebay can get em cheap on there and they don't brake much far as i know of

all take pic of my 300 pip soon look bad ass and very cheap to do just takes time



oops i red you post wroung yae the spioler does do that it like 3 pc

[Paradox]

holy shite deathangel, that engine built up will be dangerous.

umm nope my boost gauge is still sitting in my ash tray, need some good weather so i can work on my car.. right now its just sitting.

Nashman are you polishing the stuff yourself? if so what are you using?

[NashMan]

yup i am doing ti my self kinded fun too
but take's time


i use wire wheel/file/sand paper


frist you wire wheel it then wipe out the file and then file out the bumps then take wire wheel to it then sand it then wipe outt he wheel to make her smooth

look good too plus i port polished my intake as well that just wire wire job smoth then it was befor


so far i am the only one that is like really working on there car liek ever day but i have garge hehehe all i need is lift and it whould be heavn

who eles has air tools hehehe

[deathangel]

yeah my engine is gonna be nuts i think i will tear it down after summer and have it down over the winter buy a beater carolla or something HEH;)

[KultZero]

What would you guys say are the 4 mods you should do first on a supra (aside from repairing it if stuff is wrong, tuning it up, etc)?

The ones I had in mind where:
1) BOV
2) Exhaust
3) Intake
4) Lowering

And don't tell me "why don't you buy a car first", I've heard that enough lately.

;)

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by KultZero
Other than the airdam, I don't see much of a cosmetic difference between the years.

What years would you guys recommend?

His pics are from the front, that's why...

The 86.5-88 have a crappy spoiler that looks like it was tacked onto the trunklid as an afterthought, and hideous taillights...

89+ have a nice wraparound 3--piece spoiler, and much more attractive taillights.

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by KultZero
What would you guys say are the 4 mods you should do first on a supra (aside from repairing it if stuff is wrong, tuning it up, etc)?

The ones I had in mind where:
1) BOV
2) Exhaust
3) Intake
4) Lowering

And don't tell me "why don't you buy a car first", I've heard that enough lately.

;)

1) BOV!? Ricer. :P Blowoff valves sound cool, yes, but stock your performance won't be that impressive... Better to actually have a quick car with a BOV than just a stock 15 second car with a woosh between shifts...

Real list should be:

1) Metal Headgasket!
2) Downpipe (could be custom jobby with full exhaust)
3) Exhaust
4) Intake
5) Boost gauge
6) Boost controller
7) EGT or AF gauge

[Enraged]

"1) BOV!? Ricer. :P Blowoff valves sound cool, yes, but stock your performance won't be that impressive... Better to actually have a quick car with a BOV than just a stock 15 second car with a woosh between shifts... "

HEY!

main reason i got my HKS SSSBOV was becuase my stocker was broken, and i was planning to upgrade later on anyways, so i figured, why not? it wont hurt anything. and its a bit intimidating to people too hehe

heres my current stages:
1) boost gauge (stocker is crap)
2) bov
3) downpipe and full "offroad" exhaust, no cats, 3" mandrel bent
4) intake

also will be doing these over the summer i hope: complete hardpipes, electronic boost controller, upgraded IC, MHG and ARP bolts, lexus afm and 550s and S-AFC maybe.

[KultZero]

How much should a good metal head gasket run, installed?

The HKS ones are about US$350-550, but that's just parts.

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by KultZero
How much should a good metal head gasket run, installed?

The HKS ones are about US$350-550, but that's just parts.

SupraSport.com (excellent MKIII e-tailer btw) has the HKS 1.2mm MHG's for $135 usd.

https://www.suprasport.com/~admin15/suprasport/catalog/product_info.php/products_id/66

[Paradox]

How much should a good metal head gasket run, installed?

The HKS ones are about US$350-550, but that's just parts.

machining will probably be a few hundred bux, then you've gotta deal with the rip down and tear apart of your engine.. could run over a grand fairly easy, unless you want to try to do it yourself. you should get ARP head bolts at the same time to keep the head tightened down, then you can run higher boost without fearing a BHG.

this's how id go about doing the mods in order..

1) HKS MHG / Arp Bolts
2) 3" catback & Downpipe
3) K&N FIPK
4) boost controller (running 11psi)
5) boost / EGT Gauges
6) decent lowering springs and struts, specially if you plan to put on bigger wheels.

you really dont need the BOV.. thats just for fun, id spend the money on other stuff first.


PS -- ive heard of people just ripping the top off of stock BOV's that dont vent to the atmosphere, would this work in a supra? this guy with a DSM did it and i guess it was loud as hell!

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by Enraged


HEY!

main reason i got my HKS SSSBOV was becuase my stocker was broken, and i was planning to upgrade later on anyways, so i figured, why not? it wont hurt anything. and its a bit intimidating to people too hehe

Well there are always exceptions I guess... I'll just tell anyone that if you're on a budget, buying an expensive loud BOV is a show-only mod... it's not going to help performance any more than the $50 Saab unit... And as you said, it sounds intimidating. Too bad on stock boost you'll get beaten by a stock GT Mustang...

heres my current stages:
1) boost gauge (stocker is crap)
2) bov
3) downpipe and full "offroad" exhaust, no cats, 3" mandrel bent
4) intake

also will be doing these over the summer i hope: complete hardpipes, electronic boost controller, upgraded IC, MHG and ARP bolts, lexus afm and 550s and S-AFC maybe.

Nice mod list... Similar to my mothers bf's (can't wait till I buy it... Can't put my car up for sale until I replace the stereo... grrrr)

[Paradox]

i did all my modding in a rather strange order, but all in all it worked out fairly well....

1) 17" kosei wheels w/ yokohama rubber
2) 3" catback
3) brembo brake rotors
4) K&N FIPK
5) RT Downpipe
6) head gasket started leaking.... got HKS MHG / ARP Bolts
7) H&R Lowering springs
8) Cusco Strut bar
9) Lexus AFM
10) HKS SSBOV
11) Spearco I/C
12) Boost/EGT gauges
13) MKIV Fuel Pump
14) Rc 550's (not installed yet)
15) Greddy 20g turbo hopefully to be in mail sometime soon...

and shite, im not even using a boost controller yet, just a few washers on wastegate..... hehe time to raise up the boost!

do you guys think i can get away with the MKIV Fuel pump and 550's for now without a FPR? that Duane dude in vancouver said his stock FPR blew wide open when he did this... so he had to get a paxton FPR. im gonna try and find a cheaper alternative to the paxton, any ideas?

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by Paradox

do you guys think i can get away with the MKIV Fuel pump and 550's for now without a FPR? that Duane dude in vancouver said his stock FPR blew wide open when he did this... so he had to get a paxton FPR. im gonna try and find a cheaper alternative to the paxton, any ideas?

From what I've read you don't have to upgrade the FPR... I'd probably just wait until it broke, like Duane.

[NashMan]

the fule persure regularter it must when useing high boost

[Paradox]

hrmm, that should be interesting. ive never seen a fuel pressure regulator explode before. heh

[NashMan]

well it will whel your gass is under that much perusre


any whi i changed my mind the 3000 pipe is way to bright it to dame shinnny

so i goingto paint t white match my cars paint the intake is out now i am thinking f i should poslish it caues the 300 pipe was so dame bright hum maybe i just sand off all the cartion or some thing i don't know big bright things i don't like much

[Paradox]

mmm... polished shiney == good.


looks like i may get a boost controller afterall... i got ahold of 'supratrey' from supraforums.com and hes selling a locking manual boost controller, the cheques in the mail (literally) and i hope to see the MBC soon. woohoo!

this's what it looks like under his hood...

[NashMan]

humm you will get the od boost spiker here and there

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by NashMan
humm you will get the od boost spiker here and there

Yes, but the price difference almost seems to make it worth it...

Paradox: is it a ball & spring time or bleeder valve (have you read the ball&spring thread on the SOGI list?)

[Paradox]

ball and spring... and nope i havent read that. maybe i'll look it up.

and as for spiking, i dont really care for now. the price was right, im just happy to have a little more control over my boost compared to a few washers on the wastegate -- hehe changing boost that way is a tad slower "yeah, i'll just yank off the entire intake, drop a few washers down the engine bay, fish around for those for a hour, yank out the wastegate and raise the boost! no prob!" well thats sorta what its like :stupid:

[NashMan]

i think i have the slowest supra right now caues mien is not moveing

hehehehe but wounder who has the slowest supra and who has the fasest supar we will count mine caue si just playing around whiht it


good thing about my car is that i have tall gear rear end ad my engine rebulid wihht na pistons


na pistons whiht + 6 ponuds of boost is around you guys pushing 10 pounds estmet this is on done by maht though

so my limte will be 10 psi 14 fi i wan tot go hard core

plus whiht higher comption you do not have to have as much fule but have to have a very hot spark

plus i wonte hit fule cut as bad far as i know of but i think i will eb happy at 10 psi

[Paradox]

yeah NashMan, did you ever figure that out? is it blown head gasket for sure?

atleast you've got a good chance to get everything taken apart and cleaned/polished. i know if i blow head gasket again im gonna get as much stuff painted and polished as possible.

i need more tools and a garage! arggh.. maybe i should stop blowing money on mods and start spending it on tools. haha

[NashMan]

all i want is car lift

i have alot of tools master craft for me ehhehehe


snap on to exp but there ratchs are so so nice
wish i had em


so how old are you any way pardox


i fine we are the ones who post the most ehehhe

i guesss we loves cars way to much poepl find i talk about cars mor ethen weman but when i am drunk that all i think about weman

[Paradox]

yeah get a car lift so we can all borrow it! hehe

im 22 years old and yeah im thinking about cars far too much too, specially supra's. now i just need a woman to keep my mind off the damn supra!

[KultZero]

Heh, me too lately. Altho, I don't really know very much about them to start with.

You guys all seem like big car gurus to me, did you just pick it up as you go?

Heh, I'm ignorant :confused: but I wanna learn :D . It's kinda hard to pick up when people are talking about "FIPK", "EGT or AF gauge" and the like.

[Paradox]

Heh, I'm ignorant but I wanna learn . It's kinda hard to pick up when people are talking about "FIPK", "EGT or AF gauge" and the like.

well if its any conselation to you, i was never much of a car freak until i got my supra... theres just so many possibilities and ways to change things and learn, its a totally addictive hobby.

most of the stuff you can learn from supraforums.com or the SOGi (www.supras.com) website, theres tons of places just to learn on the net. when i first got my car i never really thought of modifying it, then i looked at the SOGi website, went through some links and realized i had yet to begin -really- owning a supra.

anyways good luck to ya, any questions you have, just post em here, im sure one of us can help you out.

[NashMan]

well i am 20 going on to 21 this july 14


woo whoo i can drink in the states

i have liked cars and all that stuff since i was like 16



and the i was into was rc cars the real ones not radio shack type
bmk rideing you know tricks and crap
and computer but rigth now i am into cars the most


i know alot about supra's and any v based motor now i am getting inot wankle based motors they are so sweet when it comes ot na based motors

if i was ever to get rex (aka rx7)

it whould be gtus turbo wiht out the turbo


you can get about 300 hp or more out of thous motor's and keeping it na as well


cars i whould all ways liked to own

rx7
supra hehe all ready have one
86 carolla gts or the jap spec levin

and what the hell a mr2 heheh there kinda fun to drive as well

hey paradox do you have icq

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by NashMan
good thing about my car is that i have tall gear rear end ad my engine rebulid wihht na pistons

na pistons whiht + 6 ponuds of boost is around you guys pushing 10 pounds estmet this is on done by maht though

so my limte will be 10 psi 14 fi i wan tot go hard core


I'm calling BS on this...

If you take your 11hp per pound of boost on the stock CT-26, you're saying putting in NA pistons gives you an extra 44hp (the equivelent of cranking up your boost 4psi)

That's absolutely not true. I'm sorry, but it's not. Pistons from the NA will not give you 44hp, sorry...

[deathangel]

Fuzebox is right i was saying this to you earlier nashman

Paradox don't go with a MKIV fuel pump go with the Walbro it is cheaper and better it is something like $100-$200 shipped i got the e-mail of the guy who does it some where here i'll see if i can find it!!

And a head gasket rebuild will probably cost you closer to $3000 to get it all done properly trust me i've done one, not on my car on a buddies' car and that was without lapping!

And the stock BOV in the Supra usually goes before the head gasket will around 25000 KM so just get a Porsche spec out of a 911 i can get them through the supra club for $32 plus taxes and they can handle up to 18psi easily it's cheaper and still does sound cool

if anyone wants one post it and i will order you one it usually takes 3-4 business days

[KultZero]

How can a HG rebuild cost $3000? The part itself isn't more than $500... That's damn near 65hrs of labour at $40/hr

[deathangel]

half the engine is the head and there are a lot of brackets to tear down and to get it machinede properly is important as well as to make sure a metal head gasket seats properly you should probably machine the block and lap it to give the gasket a smooth surface to seat into that is the most important part and i'm looking at worse case senario i'm a pesimist:D and i said closer to $3000 i didn't say $3000 exactly probably closer to $2500 sorry i'll be more clear next time

[deathangel]

and most good mechanic shops will charge $60/hr

I know my uncle does all my work but i get labour for beer hehehehehehehehehe

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by deathangel


And the stock BOV in the Supra usually goes before the head gasket will around 25000 KM so just get a Porsche spec out of a 911 i can get them through the supra club for $32 plus taxes and they can handle up to 18psi easily it's cheaper and still does sound cool


Do you have a sound clip of the Bosch Porsche-spec unit? Just curious as to what it sounds like...

[Enraged]

a freind of mine will change my head gasket for a stocker for $500. if i want a MHG, i canborrow/rent the lapping tool that reg reimer sells from a guy i talked to in the northern states, and lap the block myself. total cost wouldnt be more than $1000 total, with parts. and while the head is gettign machined, might as well replace valve seals, valve cover gaskets, intake and exhaust manifold gaskets, etc.

deals are out there, you just have to look.

and nashman, the reason you and paradox post more is becuase you spend too much time on here hehe :D

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by Enraged
and nashman, the reason you and paradox post more is becuase you spend too much time on here hehe :D

I can't read most of the shit that guy posts anyway... should it be counted as posting more? :D

[Paradox]

last i remember my HG cost something like 2300 without the cost of the head gasket and bolts themselves.... so yeah that can get expensive.

i think im gonna go with the MKIV fuel pump, i ordered it awhile ago so its there and ready to go in. its also a easier install compared to the walbro, it can be put in without modifying the throttle body and such. im getting it for just over $200 canadian, so the price difference isnt much...

my cars already horrible enough on gas as is, i'll hate to see what this and injectors will do to its mileage.

[NashMan]

oops i worded that kinda wroung

for every one pound of boost you put int i put one extra one i for got to fill some of that in


my comption is kinda high it like 9.2 plus the the head has bean shaved befor and same whihtt he block

when turbo's run like 8.4

and this is all ture as well

btu theonly thing bad about this set up in my car is ummm i go though alot of gas/micky mouse type of setup

i pulled out my plugs and i am finding there there fireing rigth

one of my mec friend said i should get a evern better igntion system but i said will my plugs are not showing any thing bad so i don't think i will bother tell i turn the boost up


hell i am still runing like na cat back exhuast cat's bean gutted and free flow but still hold back power where's my down pipe enraged

[NashMan]

quote:
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Originally posted by deathangel


And the stock BOV in the Supra usually goes before the head gasket will around 25000 KM so just get a Porsche spec out of a 911 i can get them through the supra club for $32 plus taxes and they can handle up to 18psi easily it's cheaper and still does sound cool

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Do you have a sound clip of the Bosch Porsche-spec unit? Just curious as to what it sounds like...








I have a sabb one it sound like owl is stuffed under my hood

whooo whooo whooo

you know that sound tiger makes whooing sound is kinda what my bov makes but there caues it was in stock and it whould work

[deathangel]

that's because you have the saab one nashman it has a plastic flat flap the porsche one is metal and is a cylindrical wedge with a rubber gasket and can handle more boost then the saab one

my buddy has a saab one and it sounds different but not that bad yours sounds like you got a vaccum leak cause it shouldn't stutter

and fuzebox i don't have a mp3 of it

[Paradox]

do the porsche or saab BOV's make a screeching sound at high rev's like the HKS or Greddy units?

[NashMan]

well i don't think i have leak but i did n't really test it all

but you never knw i kinda like poped it on kinda fast but i like putit on good this time so there will not be leak this time


but i was hitting my proper boost and such so i will have to test it once i get my ca ront eh road again when ever i get 2 dasy off to replace the bad head gasket that i think i got buti maybe wroung it passed the comp test but that does really tell much in less it is like really bad so persure test done to the coling system will comfirm this


wel i painted my 300 pipe it was to bright so i paint it black heheh look alot better plus a littel port and poils done tot he intake is all was good but the head will never be done caues that is big coin if you know what i mean



i herd the porshesa one does but the sab so far don't so it for me it sound like owl or some thign like that

i just bought what ever was in stock so sabb for me it will hold tell i get better one

plus they redisghed the sabb one it hold more psi now

the number i do not recall some one told me number but don't remmber

so paradox you still have not told me if you got icq

[fuzebox]

Holy shit man... reading your posts gives me an awful headache.

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by NashMan
oops i worded that kinda wroung

for every one pound of boost you put int i put one extra one i for got to fill some of that in


my comption is kinda high it like 9.2 plus the the head has bean shaved befor and same whihtt he block

when turbo's run like 8.4

and this is all ture as well


Uhh.... You want lower compression on a turbo car... Lower compression == more power from your boost. Higher compression == less power from your boost.

[NashMan]

um to serton amont of boost yes you can't boost that high when you have na pistons


i think the max i have sean was like 500 hp or some thing like that don't know all of his powe ibut he pulls 13 easy at 14 psi

the guys name is dean i have talked to him some times

but you just can't boost hoigh as the clouds

as other motors can


you seam to know your stuff man you bean around the car world havent you



here qestion for you i want to see if any of you guys know the answer to it


why does the mrk 3 blow head gasket's there are 2 answer's to this can you get em well they kinda run into each other as well

jeppordy begin's

[Paradox]

NashMan, yeah i have ICQ -- 12506475
and you might want to consider dropping the 3 page long signature, its wasting a lot of post space...

Fuzebox, do you have a supra? i saw your miata, looks clean :)

[KultZero]

I test drove an 86.5 auto Supra today, first time I've driven a Supra.

Gotta say there was less kick than I expected when I put my foot down. I could feel that the engine had potential, but there wasn't any performance to show for it. Is that normal with supras (or maybe just 86.5's or just autos) or is it likely that there was something wrong with the engine.

The chick who's selling it is hot :)

[NashMan]

naa na are great car but the auto thing is gay i find


5 speed na it fun great control so far i whould have to say better then when i whent to turbo motor


if you love na power go for a rx7 can't go wroung when you are buying a na lot of potentale but eh supra na will cost alot to get speed out of it



when i was thinking on rebuilding my na to get over 250 to 270 hp or some thing liek that i whould have had ot buy domed pistons buy this head from japan that whould cost me like 3000 to 4000 bucks then up grade the igntion ect

but i whould have died for that motor but it whould have cost alot and beat the liveing day lights out of any turbo out there even if it was liek pushing like 10 psi

caues na power kicks ass plus they sound mean ass as well



and as for the lng sig i notest that the other day it is kinda long ant it

[NashMan]

well doe snay one have clue what i asked befor name 2 thing why the mrk 3 motor blow head gasket so easy i give you a browning point on knowing you supras

[SilverMK3]

I've got an automatic NA 86.5 and I agree with you, I was surprised at how little kick it had off the line. But then you have to remember that the engine & suspension are nearly 16 years old. A stiffer suspension and a tune-up (maybe exhaust too) would give it a little bit more pep. Also, remember that you're pushing nearly 3700 lbs off the line so it'll take a lot of HP to feel a good kick. Once you get going tho, you'll "decimate all" especially once you hit 2nd or 3rd.

MKIII's were made for cruising, not for dragging. Its got more luxury components than any other performance import in its class, and still manages to haul ass. 200hp at the crank is still quite respectable for any NA motor, especially since you've only got 6 cylinders and 3 litres of displacement.

I'd say go for it as long as the car is in good shape. You can throw in a 5 speed transmission for pretty cheap later on if you don't like the auto.

[Enraged]

honestly, if you cant afford a turbo 5 spd model, dont settle for a NA. in the long run you will save money by just buying a turbo. and you might thing that you dont want that much power now, but 6 months after you buy the car and after getting roasted by turbos, youll want to upgrade.

the best cheapest idea if you have access to a shopwould be find a good turbo body mkiii with a blown engine, buy a used jap-spec engine (US$800 for a decent one with warranty) and drop it in.

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by Paradox
NashMan, yeah i have ICQ -- 12506475
and you might want to consider dropping the 3 page long signature, its wasting a lot of post space...

Fuzebox, do you have a supra? i saw your miata, looks clean :)

My mother's boyfriend is going to sell me his black 89t/targa as soon as I can come up with the cash (ie. sell my Miata)...

I've been fixing up the miata and stuff, still waiting for a few things to get delivered, hoping to sell it within a month.

In preperation for getting the mkiii I've been doing a hell of a lot of reading over the past 4-5 months... Am on the SOGI list and supraforums.com.

Don't worry, I'll be cool one day :p

[Enraged]

remind me what mods it has done to it? how much are you buying it for? how much you selling your miata for? am i asking enough questions?

[Paradox]

Fuzebox,

thats some good thinkin' to get into the forums and such before you actually own the car. good way to learn beforehand :)

do tell us the mods and such, can u get some pics?

[NashMan]

well i loved my na great car can spin tire and all that crap but the handling is so nice and the power is full and respon i will never mock a person whiht na i beat turbo in my na when raceing down the windy roads caues that where na's kick asss

[fuzebox]

For mods, it has HKS intake, downpipe, and exhaust... other than upgraded AC (I want to pull that out anyway) that's it.

As for price... I'm not gonna tell you guys because you'll be jealous :)

I'd like to get around $8600 for my miata...

Paradox: Well I already was reading the Kill Stories on supraforums.com long before I decided to buy a mkiii, simply because I love MKIV's and it's the only place where people will post about killing vipers ;)

I signed up for the SOGI list to ask a few preliminary questions, now I read up hungrily every day for more info...

Nicer to know what you're doing :p

[NashMan]

i was on the post sogi thing i got like 100s of emails aday it drove me crazy i am more a form person and give out all of my info about cars and such

[Paradox]

yeah, i used to hit up newsgroups a lot for car info before too, cept theres really no good supra ones, err there wasnt back then atleast

[KultZero]

Personally, I'm more of a forum person. It really sucks to login to your email and get "You have 171 new messages". And yes, it has happened to me :)

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by KultZero
Personally, I'm more of a forum person. It really sucks to login to your email and get "You have 171 new messages". And yes, it has happened to me :)

About 120 a day sounds about right for me...

If I go for the weekend without checking my email, on monday morning I have 350+ to go through.

Not a big deal, that's what subjects are for.

[NashMan]

i chouod deal whiht all that stuff to many emials made me go crazy fi you want inof for me go on this thread and you will lern more


it getting kinda long to but hey who cars it our thread

all so whiht my new head gasket i am putting in i am allso going to pop in my na cams as well so it is all good plus i paint some parts on my engine

[NashMan]

i am still thinking on what head gasket to run

i can get the toyota upper end kit for like 300 bucks that has every thing i need even the toyota head gaskit

but i woundering if really should run an oem head gasket
or run felpro or other

and i know about the mhg thing but that is more work




so still know one knows why mrk 3 eat up head gaskets so much eh

[Enraged]

i emailed colt cams a few days ago, and for $350 they will regrind cams for high performance, but they suggested i get the lift and duration numbers from a reputable tuner.... maybe ill upgrade, one of the guys on supraforums just got a crazy cam, lumpier than most V8 cams apparanty. his idle goes from 450 to 900 hehe

[NashMan]

so no one knows the answer ot my Q&A

well here it is again why is it that mrk 3 eat so many gaskets

there is like a couple of aswer to it but really only one that counts

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by NashMan
so no one knows the answer ot my Q&A

well here it is again why is it that mrk 3 eat so many gaskets

there is like a couple of aswer to it but really only one that counts

Because the factory torque settings on the head bolts are 56 ft/lbs when they should be 72ft/lbs...

[Enraged]

.... and the original head gasket design was wrong, they updated it in 91 or 92 i think, and with proper torque it wont blow under normal conditon (not boostiing 25 psi)

[NashMan]

nope but close thous are cheap fixes to try to hide the real prob

[Paradox]

what 'real prob'?

[Enraged]

those are the real problems. improper torque from the factory, and bad gasket design.

the reasons it blows are numerous, anything from overheating to too much boost, detonation, etc.

[NashMan]

ok here it goes the mian reson why they eat head gasket so much is toyota fucked up and rushed the 7m out they knew about the problem they have made and the prob is one being the head is made out of aulim so they are to diffent metal that expand diffetn and caues them to go lose and such

now toyota's big mistake was the bolt paturn if they moved em in close they whould have never had this probelem


so now what pople are tring to do is clamp it down as much as possible to stope the strecghin of the blots so people use arp caues they don't stregch as much


that is the mian reson why mrk 3's blow head gaskets that why they droped the 7m and made the 1gz and gave the us the crappy motor and once they finshed that motor the supra need a change caues all the other where faster like rx7 300 z ect

so then came hte 2jze




but the main reson is the head and block combo and how they chose to bolt it down when people tighten there head don they try t streach the hell out of the bolt and so it will not strech as much

but nothing and stop and heat strich plus that why we get warped heads and such



do you dare and try to say i am wroung but there is the main reson toyota fucked up

[Paradox]

the supra need a change caues all the other where faster like rx7 300 z ect


the Rx7 and 300zx were not faster until 93

have you driven a early 90's 300zx? its a goddamn boat! specially the 2x2 ones without the turbo, geezus, those guys may aswell be driving 4 door hondas!

[fuzebox]

Bolt pattern on the head? Is that from the same guy who told you NA pistons gave you 40hp?

http://www.fuzebox.org/images/lightning.jpg

Originally posted by NashMan
ok here it goes the mian reson why they eat head gasket so much is toyota fucked up and rushed the 7m out they knew about the problem they have made and the prob is one being the head is made out of aulim so they are to diffent metal that expand diffetn and caues them to go lose and such

now toyota's big mistake was the bolt paturn if they moved em in close they whould have never had this probelem


so now what pople are tring to do is clamp it down as much as possible to stope the strecghin of the blots so people use arp caues they don't stregch as much


that is the mian reson why mrk 3's blow head gaskets that why they droped the 7m and made the 1gz and gave the us the crappy motor and once they finshed that motor the supra need a change caues all the other where faster like rx7 300 z ect

so then came hte 2jze




but the main reson is the head and block combo and how they chose to bolt it down when people tighten there head don they try t streach the hell out of the bolt and so it will not strech as much

but nothing and stop and heat strich plus that why we get warped heads and such



do you dare and try to say i am wroung but there is the main reson toyota fucked up

[Enraged]

bwahahahaha i love that picture

[KultZero]

Test drove an 88T on friday, I'm glad to say that there was a MAJOR difference between it and the 86.5NA. Too bad the owner came with me so I didn't really get to open it up on the highway.

[Enraged]

why the hell didnt you open it up? to make sure it is mechanically sound you HAVE to open it up!

gold tourneys are fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuun hahahahaha so are bar tabs for the boss@!!!

[Enraged]

er golf hahaha

done by 4pm hahahahahaha

[Paradox]

hehe i cracked up so hard when i first saw that lightning in a bottle pic.. bahahah

Ooh, and to whoever wanted the sound of a HKS SSBOV, heres some short vids. excuse the quality.. i need a better encoder :(
make sure your volume is up high if u watch em...

www.realityexit.org/supra/videos/boostin01.WMV
www.realityexit.org/supra/videos/boostin02.WMV
www.realityexit.org/supra/videos/exhaust.WMV

[KultZero]

I took it up to 110 before the owner started to freak out at me. He panicked another time because I went when another driver waved me on; I couldn't see the traffic in the other lane.

[KultZero]

Enraged: I know what you're talkin about. The golf course I work at had a summer party last year for our 10th anniversary. Free golf, free food and free booze!! ... and what made it worse? FREE TAXIS! I think they intended for us to use the taxis to get home, but we took them down to One first.

[deathangel]

The real reason the head gasket blows is not what you said Nashman that is a myth because changing the bolt patern would have caused other problems

The reason they blow is because the bolts Toyota used were poor quality as well as the torque rating was wrong they were torque to 58ft/lbs and then 90 degrees the reason they did this was they were looking for stretch in the bolts what they didn't anticipate was the amount the bolts would stretch this coupled with the bad gasket, heat expansion, and vibration caused the bolts to back out and cause the gasket to oscilate on the block surface and causes the gasket to tear or when a cylinder is under high pressure the gasket blows wide open

So to fix this Toyota "re-designed" the gasket and "upped the torque setting" to 72 ft/lbs and this was done not looking for stretch in the bolts while they actually made better bolts this makes the "new" stock gasket good up to 17psi

changing the bolt patterns would have caused the head to crack because of the torqueing of the block it actually flexes under WOT because it is a straight six

don't believe me ask Reg Reimer!

[NashMan]

well so far the reson by what i have herd is from a toyota tec person that is in vancover and such and mods cars plus all so my mec friend told me this it the bolt patern it was done wroung they mess up

the bolt is just liek the ones off the mrk 4 same bolt but diffent pitch and langth


it was the bolt pattern trust me i have done alot of resure onthis caues people push 400 hp and blow meatl whiht arp and all that crap and still blow it the bolt patten

toyota had this on web sit a long time ago about the recall of there 7m based motor and they got away whiht it buy tryign to fix the prob whiht stounger bolts ect

if you don't belev me there is thing on supra froms i post and every one agrees as well

[Enraged]

when people blow the head gasket with a MHG and ARP bolts, they blow it becuase of poor tuning, running too lean, overheating, etc.

there was a few guys that have run 25 psi+ on the STOCK head gasket and bolts, just torqued down. i think it was dean (not dean marcum) i think his username is t61supradean on supraforums.

[NashMan]

nope it the bolt pattern it is just not done right toyota mad ethe mistake along time ago back in 91 i think they court oder done to toyota to do recall but some how they wesled out of it and just had to make the bolts stroung but no recall if you look on the net you might find it

[Enraged]

sure. bring some technical facts.

if the bolt pattern is so bad, why is there people running 400+ rwhp and 25+ psi on the stock head gasket? they are lucky?

[deathangel]

Ah Enraged buddy finally another learned person rings the bullshit detector

I have done alot of research it is not the bolt patern the actual bolts were made out of low grade metal the bolts on the 2JZ are different than on the 7M they are not interchangable and are not the same spec they have a higher stretch threshold in otherwards they will stretch more before they become plastic and snap

[Enraged]

ARP is the only way to go anyways. whenever i have to/decide to rebuild my engine, ill go all out, ARP for everything. im plannign on about $2000 for the engine rebuilt i think, doing most of my own labor.

[Enraged]

on another subject, what are peoples plans for their cars this summer?

im probably going to build my own intake it pretty soon, and weld it in the class im taking, and im also considering making my own targa bars as well. the ones Dean Marcum is selling are just thick wall stainless steel tube, crushed at both ends.... maybe make them out of some thick aluminum stock (.5" x 1" maybe?) and polish it all up nice.

depending on cash, im going to get a good electronic boost controller, and hopefully springs and shocks. a freind of mine might be gettin his car painted for $600, so if that turns out nice (he'll be the guinea pig hehe) i might get it painted in the summer.

[Paradox]

on another subject, what are peoples plans for their cars this summer?

Greddy 20G turbo! :D

[deathangel]

Fuel pump
Lexus AFM
A'pexi AFC
and full rebuild:rolleyes:

[SilverMK3]

- KYB struts
- new rims
- minor body work
- paint (?)

[fuzebox]

Is it just me, or did you not blow off for two shifts?

Were you lifting smoothly or something? By listening to the revs it sounded like there should have been a few blowoffs during each of those vids :)

Originally posted by Paradox
hehe i cracked up so hard when i first saw that lightning in a bottle pic.. bahahah

Ooh, and to whoever wanted the sound of a HKS SSBOV, heres some short vids. excuse the quality.. i need a better encoder :(
make sure your volume is up high if u watch em...

www.realityexit.org/supra/videos/boostin01.WMV
www.realityexit.org/supra/videos/boostin02.WMV
www.realityexit.org/supra/videos/exhaust.WMV

[Paradox]

Is it just me, or did you not blow off for two shifts?

Were you lifting smoothly or something? By listening to the revs it sounded like there should have been a few blowoffs during each of those vids

its automatic, i dont lose boost between shifts :D :D

altho if this tranny blows, im gonna go 5spd hehe

[NashMan]

umm hum what am i going to do whiht my car humm

pay for it then sell it maybe ... if i get an offer i like

my hart and soul and blood is all over that car (lots of nucle bashing on that car that is why i added the blood thing )

i retro spec i have tirne that car aprt in every way caue si love to work on that thing


this is what i have done to my car in the past i have had it

rebuilt the hole motor,changed the gas tank,fule pump,hole intio has bean riped out,wireing,speedo,suption,ect,poped in 7mgte

what i have not got my nose into is the trans/rear end/drive shaft every thing els in that can i have taken aprt or kinda replaced


i just allways work on my car and never pay any one to fix it or add some thing on


my soul is in my car and i have named her lemon i have dumped alot of my life into her



my next fun car might be rx7 thou


i going to be takeing mec class school soon as i got back for upgradeing caue si think i lost some thing i need bean out for like 4 years now

[NashMan]

oh and as for the eninge blowing head gastkets i don't want to start a fight but i will end it here and now toyota fucked up when they made the 7mgte

that why is the reson why 1jz poped out to bad we never got to see that motor in time they just gave us allt he crappy 7m motor's and kept the 1jz for them self,s




ehhehe ever heard of fly air filter go look at this toy you can buy all's i can say is hoover power just watch the vid and you will know what i am talking about


http://www.electricsupercharger.com/

[Enraged]

keep the thread on top!

[NashMan]

i have looke don rev sean and so far we got he biggest longest thread going so far hehehhe


any one know the cheapest place ot get a hks bead type gasket


so far lordco has it the cheapest i have found

i have not really looked but i maybe have missed a shop or some thing like that

[Enraged]

my goddamn car wont start! its turning over, but its not catching. i thought it was out of gas, but nope.... my uncle is going to come over tonight or the next few days and look at it.... i took the plastic cover off of the top of the engine, unplugged #1 spark plug wire, and i THOUGHT that was it, but now it wont start! hopefully its something simple i missed....

oh ya, and my muffler fell off. rusted to shit, oh well. got my Magnaflow here, just have to get it put on.

[Paradox]

oh ya, and my muffler fell off. rusted to shit, oh well. got my Magnaflow here, just have to get it put on.

hahha, leave it off til you get the new one on man.. bet that sounds loud!

[Enraged]

you see, thats how this all started. i was lookin to see where the exhaust leads, and i pulled on the muffler. *BOOM* it comes off. so i think, hmmmm i wonder what it sounds like. so i crank it, and the problem starts.... fuel pump is ok, just used the diagnostic block to check it. my uncle will come over in a bit i think, so i'll probably change the plugs and wires since i have them sitting right here. gettin the front brakes done on friday.... $$.......

[NashMan]

easy to find out why a car wonte start

4 things you must cheack

1 AIR cheak for aire is easy see if any thing is like bad filter and put you hand on the filter and see if it is sucking in any air


2 FIRE see if you have any spark take plug out and put it near the shock tower and if it spark's



3 FULE 2 ways to do this one you can smell you back tail pipe and if you have bean trying to start it then ti will smell like gas this is the easyer way secound way is to pull a plug and smell it if it smell like gas you got it


4 ELETICAL eninge light will not come on eletical/ecu that bad ones battie dead or lower or has carosetion all over it



so when you do find out what is wroung whiht you can tell me which one it was

[Paradox]

you know whats really confusing? taking off the intake, putting it all back together, then hitting the gas pedal only to see the rev's go down... heh i did that when i forgot to plug the AFM sensor back in and started up the car. took me awhile to figure out what i'd forgotten :confused:

[NashMan]

i have never done that befor so who is all going to nanimo this up comeing week end i might be there whiht my buddy in his rx7


caues my car is still off the road

[Paradox]

i cant believe you want a Rx7 man. keep the supra.. Rx is a good car but as good as dead after 200,000k. also the power you can pull from a 13b is nothing compared to a 7M. also rotaries wont take near the abuse the inline 6 will

ive owned a Rx before! have you?

[NashMan]

well what i mean by me wanting a rex is for the na power


na power is the bomb still kinda miss it plus the sound of a na is killer


not to diss the turbo cars out there but when i had my turbo when i was going down one of my favoit road's i had hard time keeping the boost up weil sliding aroudn a corner's but in the strights i pulled like hell but when coner come up i wish i had a na


but i like my turbo supra and plan on not go huge trim and shit i wan tt make my power band kinda like na not huge trim ect

cars i whould like to own are


RX7 GTUS mild street ported and the hole nine yards
MRK 3 supra turbo hey i got one of em hehehehhe
MRK 4 supra turbo don't got one but plan on getting one
86 toyota carolla gts

[Enraged]

next car (maybe this winter/next spring): 72 Datsun 240, mild body mods, decent lightweight stereo, and a Chev 350 w/5 spd running around 400 rwhp..... total project cost i estimate at around $6000... and mid/low 12s in the 1/4 (talked to a few people with that setup, thats what they had).

[NashMan]

yae i know i have driven a 74 240 whiht 350 in it befor whiht 5 speed as well

the only thing that kind piss me off was the way the exhasut was it like made alot of nosie caues it was like dual and it hanged low and stuff but it had some pep but the seption was kinda off caues of the weight but not that much the rear eand was out of 300 z


all around it was kinda quick but it felt like a nose plow all the time


but if you want strighter liner get chevvet whiht 305 or buick v 6 and there you got a stright liner

[MidnightMechanic]

build up the 280 turbo inline 6. sure they're heavy but just look at Tod Kaneko's 510 and 240, they're just too sweet. plus, get the diesel crank for the 6 cyl. and run mad boost. oh yeah

[Paradox]

did anybody ever see that 280z on ebay with the 2jz engine in it? damn that car was nice.


just got my 550cc injectors and MKIV fuel pump in.. havent had time to test it out yet, so far the throttle responce seams to be way quicker... not near as sluggish off the line. i'll have to drive it more to get a better feel.

time to waste some gas.... wee

[KultZero]

Does anyone know who owns the 90 or 91 T that lives in Royal Oak area? It's midnight blue with silver/grey stripes on the hood.

Damn nice lookin car.

[Paradox]

[QUOTE]Does anyone know who owns the 90 or 91 T that lives in Royal Oak area? It's midnight blue with silver/grey stripes on the hood.
/QUOTE]

nope, dont know the guy.. but that was my original plan on how i wanted to paint my car, well not exactly, but close -- i wanted to do a midnight metallic blue (really dark) with white racing stripes. too bad i picked up a supra with a burgandy interior :(

i just took my car for a burn, it idles better now and the engine just seams happier in general. i doubt i'll see any real serious benefits from the lex afm/MKIV Fuel pump/550's til i raise the boost. think maybe tommorow i'll try for 12 or 13 psi and see how that works out

what sort of boost levels do you guys think i can expect to peak at on the CT26? (without harming engine internals) i was aiming for 18psi when i get the new greddy turbo.

[deathangel]

thats my buddy Evan he doesn't live out there he just works at the royl bank in broadmead

[deathangel]

15 psi is about peak for the CT26! It really runs well at 12psi after that it kind of sucks

[Paradox]

thats my buddy Evan he doesn't live out there he just works at the royl bank in broadmead

cool! ive seen that car awhile ago, i pulled over to make a phone call and saw it, so i parked beside it and checked it out. it didnt have any racing stripes on it that i can remember. but the rest of it looked pretty nice, is it a 88?

and yeah i doubt i'll try going above say 13psi on the CT26, i hear it generates nothing but heat at high boost :(

[NashMan]

so sad my car is off the road so i have bean playing grand turismoe


hehe i makeing drifter cars kinda hard to make em for ever class

so far what i have made is rear wheel drive na car (AE86) 99% done

front wheel drive one is a (toyota ceclica) 90%
all wheel is a (turbo celica) 50%
mid eninge is you guessed it (mr2) have not really started
rear wheel turbo (toyota supra) have not really started

but when i am done i will give the spec's ont he cars so you can drive em hehehe

[fuzebox]

Hey guys,

Who here has an MHG (I think only Paradox, am I right?)...

I was wondering how much it cost you in total for parts to do the MHG install (after headgasket, arp bolts, valve cover gaskets, replacement crap, etc... Including machine shop time.

Just curious, thanks.

[Paradox]

hrmm.. i'll have to look through my big box of supra receits to find that one.. heh

[NashMan]

i am doing that as we speak mhg/arp/na cams/full upper end rebuild


the only thing i hopen for is that my block still has good finsh if it does i will pop on mhg if not then i will go compaset gasket


but i getting my studs for like 160 head gaskt for like 350

machine is like 100 bucks and other gakets will cost me like 100 to 200


this is all estment but close


and when i am done i will have my power band that i want caues of the na cams mixed whiht the pistons will rock

[Paradox]

Originally posted by fuzebox
Hey guys,

Who here has an MHG (I think only Paradox, am I right?)...

I was wondering how much it cost you in total for parts to do the MHG install (after headgasket, arp bolts, valve cover gaskets, replacement crap, etc... Including machine shop time.

Just curious, thanks.

Yeah, ok .... looks about 300 for machining (im not sure the exact cost, it was done by labor hours)

i got the ARP bolts and MHG from suprasport.com

other than that, theres a bunch of other stuff on the receit, mostly
other gaskets and hoses. the "valve grind gasket set" whatever that is, was $334.85

i also got new timing belts, a cylinder head cover and a valve switch over(?) along with new cold start injector and plug wires.

there's a shitload of other minor stuff on here, a lot of it is just cheap stuff like hoses, gaskets and such.

total for labor was 9 hours (im sure it was more than this, my car was in shop for 2-3 weeks) in total this comes to $560 labor and some labor fee's account for machining.

the final price was $2239.95 not including ARP bolts/MHG

hope that helps

[Paradox]

anyone else see this on supraforums?

http://www.supraforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=40454

damn.. that car kicked ass too :(

[Paradox]

well i never raised boost on my car yet, but i think with the fuel upgrade its performance is bumped up a decent amount. if you look at reg's dyno tuning for the lex/550 mod, he loses a bit of torque but gains horse power doing this.

the ECU must have learned the new fuel curves by now, the power feels better today.

hey Enraged, did you figure out what was the problem with your car yet?

[Enraged]

no.... my uncle couldnt come over today, tomorrow afternoon probably. i took everything off except the spark plugs, i dont have a socket for them. we took out the plug from #1, and it was REALLY fouled, all black, the electrode was worn quite a bit.... my uncle talked to his freind who is a mechanic, and he thinks that i actually flooded, drying out the piston rings, so they dont seal and i lose compression. so we're going to drop a small amount of oil into each cylinder and change the plugs and wires. if thats not it, its most likely fuel, maybe a clogged fuel filter. so hopefully ill have it running tomorrow... so much for the meet tomorrow..... oh well, im goin to try to be at the minisprint on sunday.

So who is going to minisprint? Paradox? oh ya, whats your real name? mine is Toby.

[Enraged]

oh ya, one of my good freinds boyfreind is building up a 50-something ford with a supercharged chev engine, and he has a MIG welder, so looks like he'll be able to help me make some hardpipes!

[Paradox]

mini sprints again? cool.. what time?

me names Murray btw

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Enraged
oh ya, one of my good freinds boyfreind is building up a 50-something ford with a supercharged chev engine, and he has a MIG welder, so looks like he'll be able to help me make some hardpipes!

cool, i need some hardpipes to go down to the I/C, or perhaps just the one in this picture straightened to flow more.
i really dont wanna blow like 400 bux USD on hardpipes :(

[Enraged]

well im goin to talk to my instructor atthe welding class, and see if he can teach me how to do 2.5" piping (thats what im using).

the minisprint is on sunday, if my car is running and if i can get a helmet on payday (friday) ill go. if you need a helmet, you can borrow mine, or they have loaners too. http://www.victoriamotorsports.ca/ for info, registration is at 2:30, im goin to try to get there by 2pm though.

you can check out my custom upper IC pipe. it was cheaper than buying the HKS SSBOV kit, and it goes from the throttle body to near the intake. only cost about $225, and the bov used cost me $200 about. the kit sells for more than $600, so im happy with it.

[Enraged]

also, anyone need a filter for their turbo MK3? im goin to make my own adapter in class this week i think, then buy a universal K&N filter for about $70-80. alot cheaper than a FIPK, and it does the same thing. if anyoen wants one, i'll make one for you for cheap (liek $20 or something)

i get to play with the plasma cutter :D

[NashMan]

well i whent to meet and lots of honda not many toyota's we got to do some thing about that don't you think

ps some of thous honda are pushing so much nos to kill them selfs


but all around it was fun i enjoyed it just can't wait to get my baby onthe road for next week some people wan tot see my car so we all should show em what toyota is all about

[Enraged]

damn straight

[86supra]

this sucks, I'm in courtenay missing out on all the action
in vic. But rest assured that before I go to alberta this summer I'll bring my car down that way to a meet, garett92Z will let me know when a meet is next month and I'll take time off to bring my
stock ride down, (stock till winter) :) talk to ya later
Oh do any of you guys use TRD stuff on your rides

[Paradox]

TRD stuff? hrmm not me. i havent seen many good aftermarket stuff from TRD for MK3 supra's

hey Nashman which Rx7 did u go up to the meet in? get any pics?

[NashMan]

naaa stuiped me i forgot my god dame dig camra

my frined rex was not in any of the pic so far case it kinda stock right now but he does have pedle woooo stay away or he will killz you with hez master drive skills ehhehe

the pedals add skillzz sorry greg had to do that but you are getting better at stander and one day be better then me (maybe if i never drive again ) hehhee you going to key my car for that right


oh as for trd

there is very few parts that are good and most you can not get
caues there in japan or not made any more

there clutch is nice/the springs are nice don't know much about the sway bar as they don't make em any more far as i know of but i can be wroung

there alot more but it all jdm and very hard to find


oh i have one trd thing it shift nob blooy thihng cost me like 109 bucks but it has trd on it

[NashMan]

oh joy my studs came in so now i go pic em up it getting close to my car ening ont he road boyz hehehehehe

[EightTrack]

Hey that's not true, you can see my rex in one pic behind the white celica! :D

Next week I'll have my new wheels and Hopefully a short throw by next paycheck, so it's ok.

[NashMan]

ehheheheh thou wheels man will look nice better then phone dials

but you got to get rid of that pitting on you hatch

and that plastic thing fix caues it will just get wore and trap water in and such


and aftre that dasy chain thous flying filter on your car ehhehehehe


but i gut you second dair cats for you it easy as pie


caue sthe guy whiht the red rx7 said it made it sound meaner but not loud and he got more power to boot


but thous tire hummm what the fuck in nexen humm i have not herd much just one buddy of mine said they where for show

so have any of you guys ever herd of nexen tire company befor

n2000's is the modle of tire


got my arp studs hehehe i got sticker. there 150 bucks right there hehehe who cares abotu the stud i love the sticker

[Paradox]

my ARP stickers been prouldy stuck under my hood for awhile now :D

i started waxing my car today, and i keep finding new little scratches and shit i never saw before! arggh.. owell, it still looks good! ive got some pics but they didnt turn out too well, digi cam batteries were dying or something...

http://www.realityexit.org/supra/pics/02_29_02-supra_01.jpg
http://www.realityexit.org/supra/pics/02_29_02-supra_02.jpg

hey is it safe to use wax on the rear bumper cover? a lot of waxes say not to use on plastics like that...

[NashMan]

it mean on platic it self if there is paint o it it is fine

[Enraged]

ooooo i made my first intake adapter today. 3.5" pipe, i have to test fit it tonight or tomorrow. very messy welds, and a very messy cutting job with the plasma cutter... oh well, as long as it fits, ill give this one away, and make a better one for myself :D

[Paradox]

Originally posted by Enraged
ooooo i made my first intake adapter today. 3.5" pipe, i have to test fit it tonight or tomorrow. very messy welds, and a very messy cutting job with the plasma cutter... oh well, as long as it fits, ill give this one away, and make a better one for myself :D

sounds cool, hopefully you can clean it up and use it, did you ever find a filter to put on it?

i waxed the rest of my car today, and painted the calipers and rotors black (woohoo no more gay yellow) it looks good..

http://www.realityexit.org/supra/pics/4_30_02-Supra_02.jpg

[Enraged]

nice!

IT LIVES! got my car running, my uncle was right, just had to re-oil the rings, and now it purrs like a kitten! i took it for a burn after i put it all back together, let it warm up for a few blocks then vvrrrrrrooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMM MMMMMMMMMM*PSHHHHHT*VROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM*PSHH HHHHHHT!

hehe i can't believe i lived for 2 weeks without boost! i was deprived severely!

anyways, im going to try making a better adapter tomorrow. the one i made yesterday would do, but it looks pretty crappy. one of the guys in my class suggested bondo to clean it up :D maybe, paint it, then sell it to someone for $20 hehe

total cost for 3 adapters: $7 for 3.5" tubing, 2" long. welding supplies (parents paid for the class) FREE! filter, $76 + tax!

much better than spending $240 on an FIPK IMHO. ill get to making a heat sheild pretty soon too i think, maybe next week.

Nashman mentioned having a little supra meet, well how about we just do it on sunday at the minisprint? 2:30 is registration, and i can see how well my pretyt much stock (aside from HKS SSBOV) can compete with your guys cars hehe. Nashman has a sweet suspension setup, id liek to see it in action.

[Paradox]

Nashman mentioned having a little supra meet, well how about we just do it on sunday at the minisprint? 2:30 is registration, and i can see how well my pretyt much stock (aside from HKS SSBOV) can compete with your guys cars hehe. Nashman has a sweet suspension setup, id liek to see it in action.


its supposed to rain on the weekend :(

[Paradox]

http://www.corbeau.com/brochure/images/carrera_black.jpg

i want these!

[NashMan]

dame it's going to rain this week end

oh well i al lest will have my car in less i have probs


yae but we all have to meet at mini sprints or like do sweet road and stuff i know of some

[Enraged]

GO TO MINISPRINT!

to my understanding, as long as there is not standing water on the track , they will still race. it will just be slower.

i want those seats too. ill probably get them in blue this summer (the drivers seat at least). it will look great with a black/graphite interior.

[NashMan]

as for me i just want my car done i can care less about seats right now ehhehe


see toby has not drove his car for like 1 week and half look atr me i have not had my car for like 1 mouth


so i am get very antsee

i have to drive around it the truckk it just not right i need the speed the handling sure the turck you can just park in ditch and not care caues you know you can make it out of any thing but i love my supra

[Enraged]

i just spent $100 on my car hehe

Mothers Clay bar kit, California Water Blade (IT WORKS!), and 2 jackstands! now i can change my oil!.... just need a socket set...

hey nashman, heres a new signature for you:

Toyota Supra 86.5 NA-T
______________________________
Suspension: Eibach springs , St sway Bars (ajustable), Monroe sensa trac, Kumho ECSTA Supra 712. Engine: Na cam's, 7MGTE (full upper end rebild), Na piston's, Na rear limted slipp diff 4.30.1, port and polish intake, Ngk plug wires, Ngk Laser Platinum, ARP Head studs. Interior: Auto meter boost gauge, Custom short shifter.

On the way: Full 3" Turbo-back Exhaust, Boost controler, and upgraded CT-26.



shorter, and it has all the same stuff.

[Enraged]

oh ya, im going to call you Ryan from now on. how did you come up with Nashman?

[NashMan]

well how i go my nick name toby was i was fliping throu tv guide and think on new nick name that is no really used

then i say super man on at 12 then i saw nashbrighes on after it so then a light bulb whent on in my haed and that is how i though of the name kinda funcky eh


i can waight for my ca rot be on the road right now i painting my vavle cover and stuff makeing ti look kinda pretty


any way i going to be at the mini sprint now raceing humm should I (hehehe do bears shit in the woods hehehe of corse i gog to race but will my car be ready

so you comeing paradox forgot you nam but it is M somehting

[Paradox]

so you comeing paradox forgot you nam but it is M somehting

thats a good question

and its Murray :)

ps, im starting to wonder about suprasports service... ive had outstanding orders since dec. 01! :2finger:

emailed trent last night, got a responce today and he'd totally forgotten about all the hassle we'd gone through before when they lost my orders and such, now they expect me to pay extra for 'special service' in order to get my Lotek POD, which i presumed had been cleared up a month ago and would soon see in the mail. arggggh. i dont know if i'll order from them again, unless this is cleared up properly.

[Enraged]

uh... if you ordered it such a long time ago, they still had it on their web site. talk to jueff if you cant get anywhere with trent. i got my lotek pod and blitz boost gauge about 1 month after i ordered it (he had to get the boost gauge in, they won't drop ship apparantly).

[Paradox]

yeah well its not just the POD, its also a leather e-brake boot, upper rad. hardpipe and a JMBC... as for the JMBC i think im going to cancel that order since im getting one from supratrey of supraforums.

[NashMan]

my vavle cover are kinda dry right now time to add anther coat of paint

[NashMan]

so when do you have to sighn up for the mini races and such ps i do not have helmet imight beable to borrow one from some but i don't know

[Enraged]

im goin to go buy a helmet tomorrow i think. just show up to the minisprint on time (early is better though) and you can probably race, as long as you pass tech and have a snell 95 or newer helmet. SG Power has helmets for about $150 for a basic black full face.

[NashMan]

so what time do you have to show up to enter ect

[Enraged]

well FUCK.

i just wasted 1.5 hours at peninsula brake and muffler. i went there to get my rotors turned and new pads on. so i leave it, walk to tanners, come back 1.5 hours later, and he says no charge, the rotors are undersized. so it looks like i wont be autocrossing on Sunday GOD DAMNIT! i cnat buya helmet either..... fuckin HELL IM PISSED OFF!

anyways, im pricing out stock rotors and powerslot right now. alamomotorsports has KVR rotors for US$92 each, and thats the best deal ive found so far. Peninsula said they could get them for $95 each for stockers.... so there goes my money for a helmet...

[Enraged]

well, $150 each for front powerslots from lordco. autofx wants $200 each, may knock it down a bit, but i dont think they can match it. 10-12 working days away though.... oh well, im goin to go put a deposit on them now... so maybe ill get to autoX next month.... *sigh*....

[Enraged]

just ordered Powerslot rotors, they will be here in 10-12 workign days... i will be going to the autocross, but i wont be racing. ill watch, that way i can still meet you guys, and check out you cars.

[fuzebox]

Originally posted by Enraged
just ordered Powerslot rotors, they will be here in 10-12 workign days... i will be going to the autocross, but i wont be racing. ill watch, that way i can still meet you guys, and check out you cars.

What's wrong with your rotors?

You sure you can't squeeze one day of autocrossing out of them? ;)

[NashMan]

think about it he will worp his rotors caues of hifh speed brakeing

and that can wreck you clapier if they are way under spec but if your just barely there you can get one day of mini sprints out of em just turst me people drive on worn rotor like every day

that is crappy dude i will most likly be there raceing if not there to hang so no one still has told me the time thou

[Enraged]

tiem is 2:30 for registration. show up early.

i could care less about the rotors, im getting new ones. but i dont want to fuck up the caliper, so im just goin to watch. the spirited driving getting there will wear them enough. im goin to be driven the parents van for the next two weeks to get to work...

[NashMan]

dame i did not get my car finshed dame dame dame dame

it will be done tommrow for sure there is not much lef tot do any ways

[Paradox]

who did your machining?

[Paradox]

hehe Enraged, atleast Peninsula Brake and tire didnt charge you for ripping apart your brakes and shit, i member getting work done up island in nanaimo, they tried to charge me labor time for checking on things i didnt even ask for.

some mechanics are real bastards... :bluemad:

Marlon (the owner) is cool, tho, he gives me discounts and stuff on a lot of parts. and they do really good work. no complaints from me thus far.

hes probably gonna get me a sweet deal on some 17/45/235 Michilens. it'll save me almost 200 bux. wooooot

[Enraged]

235s? thats it? how big are your wheels?

[Paradox]

17x7 :(

i bought em before i had brains. atleast they look cool.....