a bit off-topic,

but for those who are using the iPhone unlocked, does the bluetooth on the iPhone still only pair with bluetooth headsets? Can it do any syncing to a PC or Mac or do any file transfers to other phones via bluetooth?

bt only works for headsets

anyone got any good games?

Lights Off is fun (stuck on level 69 though), I have that Pig Shooter game which is kinda cute, and the NES emulator is getting better everyday.

how do you sync photos onto the phone?

i can only choose one folder at a time?

A bit tempted to buy one just to show off lol, but the fact that it can't read SIM contacts is really keeping me away from it.

Hm, I guess I'll see how well I like the P1 when I get it later this week.

It's pretty self-explanatory in the "Info" tab of the iPhone section in iTunes. For PC you can select a folder, or a folder under your "My Pictures" folder. On the Mac, you can choose folders (if I remember correctly) or rolls in iPhoto.

lol

just wait 1 year or so, when full charge battery will probably only last and maintain half of the usage you are using now.

Apple battery die out pretty fast.

the ipods, which they claimed like 3-5 years of constant usage without much power deterioration. Well, they're wrong.

I am expecting the same thing with iPhone batteries, that they will eventually die out pretty quickly, and you cant even change the battery or get a new one yourself. (well, some may be able to, but most people cant and wont)

besides, for phone usage, why get an Apple when they are not a real cellphone maker

Its like buying a Sony SLR when Sony isnt really known for their camera capabilities. Most SLR enthusiasts/experts would say, get a Canon or Nikon or some others, but not Sony.

Or, its like getting a Gucci watch, when they are not really a real watch maker like say Tag Hauer or Oris, but get Gucci because its expensive and "fashionable"

Wait one year? I would have changed phones more than 13 times by then...if last year was any indication. XD

Apple battery problem? Doesn't affect me! :D

hey has anyone tried if you can plug your iphone into your car and ur car still has the capabilites to control everything like a normal ipod? like change songs, and play videos?

I haven't yet, but I hear it doesn't work yet. The new iPods and the iPhone need to detect an Apple-designed signal from accessories before it'll work, so some old docks, pretty much all the old video output devices, and a lot of other stuff don't work. That being said, from the original firmware to 1.01 for the iPhone (1.02 right now), a lot of docks and accessories started working that didn't before, so the new 1.11 update might enable compatibility with more devices.

...at least I'm praying it does. Bought two line-out accessories and they don't work, and I have to use the damned Apple wall adapter to charge it, as no other USB wall adapter will work! At least it doesn't care whether I use an aftermarket cable (I use a retractable one) or not to charge and sync.

is there a way to turn edge off? I don't use it anyways.

im guessing itrip doesnt work? if it doesnt then im not getting it for sure.. :( but then.. i'd have to sell my ipod.. lol


:O SELL IPOD AND BUY IPHONE!!! im so stupid to just realize that..

If you don't use EDGE, it's better to go into a Rogers place and tell them to lock Internet access on your SIM, so that you can never accidentally use data. I've had it locked since I first got my first cell lol...and haven't needed to use EDGE yet, so it's still locked. :)

iTrip, probably doesn't work. Retarded, I know. You probably want to poke around with Google and see just which accessories work and which don't, because there are some that DO work.

:( the only thin i use my ipod for is music in the car haha, outside of the car i use the dslite :D


maybe i'll hold off on the iphone... so many factors to consider hahaha

Yeah, probably a wise choice.

anyone know if the new updates for the iphone will screw up the unlock?

Don't know about that yet, but here's the low-down on what's offered by v1.1.1:

* iTunes Wi-Fi music store
* Louder speakerphone and receiver volume
* Home button double-click functionality
* Double-tap spacebar to intelligently insert period and space
* Apple Bluetooth headset battery status now appears in iPhone Status bar
* Support for TV Out
* EDGE/GPRS can now be manually turned on and off
* Adjustable alert volume
* Support for WAV and MP3 mail attachments

EDIT: More details courtesy of Gizmodo and Apple

Firmware upgrades/fixes:

• iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store
• Louder speakerphone and receiver volume
• Home Button double-click shortcut to phone favorites of music controls
• Space bar double-tap shortcut to intelligently insert period and space
• Mail attachments are viewable in portrait and landscape
• Stocks and cities in Stocks and Waether can be re-ordered
• Apple Bluetooth Headset battery status in the Status Bar
• Support for TV Out
• Preference to turn off EDGE/GPRS when roaming internationally
• New Passcode lock time intervals
• Adjustable alert volume

Security notice
WARNING: Apple has discovered that some of the unauthorized unlocking programs available on the Internet may cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software. IF YOU HAVE MODIFIED YOUR IPHONE'S SOFTWARE, APPLYING THIS SOFTWARE UPDATE MAY RESULT IN YOUR IPHONE BECOMING PERMANENTLY INOPERABLE. Making unauthorized modifications to the software on your iPhone violates the iPhone software license agreement, and the inability to use your iPhone to unauthorized software modifications is not covered under your iPhone's warranty.

Security related updates - Fixed bugs
• Bluetooth
Impact: An attacker within Bluetooth range may be able to cause an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution

• Mail
Impact: Checking email over untrusted networks may lead to information disclosure via a man-in-the-middle attack

• Mail
Impact: Following a telephone ("tel:") link in Mail will dial a phone number without confirmation

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to the disclosure of URL contents

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to unintended dialing or dialing a different number than expected

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to cross-site scripting

• Safari
Impact: Disabling JavaScript does not take effect until Safari is restarted

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may result in cross-site scripting

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may result in cross-site scripting

• Safari
Impact: JavaScript on websites may access or manipulate the contents of documents served over HTTPS

Don't update to 1.1.1 if you have 1.0.2 and unlocked!

At least for now.

Yeah, it seems it blows up unlocked iPhones lol

Let's give the hackers a little bit of time first...heh

hey for the ppl with the iphone, does playin music slow the phone down? like when u do other things while playin music or when u switch to another song

Not at all, but if you're loading up a pretty big page in Safari, or doing anything else that'll require a lot of memory (some games), the iPod program will close.

EDIT: Updates courtesy of Gizmodo and Apple

Unlocked iPhone users...DO NOT INSTALL THIS UPDATE YET

Firmware upgrades/fixes:

• iTunes Wi-Fi Music Store
• Louder speakerphone and receiver volume
• Home Button double-click shortcut to phone favorites of music controls
• Space bar double-tap shortcut to intelligently insert period and space
• Mail attachments are viewable in portrait and landscape
• Stocks and cities in Stocks and Waether can be re-ordered
• Apple Bluetooth Headset battery status in the Status Bar
• Support for TV Out
• Preference to turn off EDGE/GPRS when roaming internationally
• New Passcode lock time intervals
• Adjustable alert volume

Security notice
WARNING: Apple has discovered that some of the unauthorized unlocking programs available on the Internet may cause irreparable damage to the iPhone's software. IF YOU HAVE MODIFIED YOUR IPHONE'S SOFTWARE, APPLYING THIS SOFTWARE UPDATE MAY RESULT IN YOUR IPHONE BECOMING PERMANENTLY INOPERABLE. Making unauthorized modifications to the software on your iPhone violates the iPhone software license agreement, and the inability to use your iPhone to unauthorized software modifications is not covered under your iPhone's warranty.

Security related updates - Fixed bugs
• Bluetooth
Impact: An attacker within Bluetooth range may be able to cause an unexpected application termination or arbitrary code execution

• Mail
Impact: Checking email over untrusted networks may lead to information disclosure via a man-in-the-middle attack

• Mail
Impact: Following a telephone ("tel:") link in Mail will dial a phone number without confirmation

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to the disclosure of URL contents

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to unintended dialing or dialing a different number than expected

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may lead to cross-site scripting

• Safari
Impact: Disabling JavaScript does not take effect until Safari is restarted

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may result in cross-site scripting

• Safari
Impact: Visiting a malicious website may result in cross-site scripting

• Safari
Impact: JavaScript on websites may access or manipulate the contents of documents served over HTTPS

only thing i like is the tv out

Yeah, I hope that adding TV-out might solve my audio line-out problems too.

so i just got my self one of these shinning toy.. unlock it myself and lovin it. However is there any free programs out there that can add custom ringtone to the fone besides paying for iphoneringtonemaker? and any free video converter that will convert all files i have codecs for (rm most importantly) to mp4 iphone format for freee????

i already pay 430 for the fone i ain't paying for more softwares

Ringtones are easy to add, just turn on WiFi and SFTP into your iPhone and put them in the \Library\Ringtones folder. Can be any audio format the iPhone supports, but can't have Asian characters in the filename (go figure, works for the iPod app). Converter...I use MediaCoder. Use the iPod profile then change the resolutions for the videos depending on the aspect ratio: 320x240 for regular, 480x272 for 16/9 widescreen.