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DanHibiki
06-23-2012, 12:01 AM
Trade booth and Raymond for bobby Ryan

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m4xdlnmiLr1qc3m75.gif

iwantaskyline
06-23-2012, 01:02 AM
I think once it's said and done, those two plus a pick would be equivalent value
:ahwow:

Tim Budong
06-23-2012, 01:10 AM
Bobby Ryan... at least he proves he can score goals GOING TO THE FUCKING NET...

thats all I will contribute to that
becuz Hondaracer is cool

spideyv2
06-23-2012, 01:15 AM
Hondaracer logic: Lu is da best goalie in da world. I hope da canuckz fail wit da schneider. I fuck mad bitches hotter den dat dere paulina gretzky. I think dat dere luongo is da god. I think dat luongo should succeed before dem canuckz. Manny malholtra iz da devil and he suckz. I play high level beer league hockey so my logic iz better den urz!!!

Hondaracer
06-23-2012, 01:22 AM
sorry if it's over your head bra

kristianhay
06-23-2012, 07:44 AM
Canucks go off the board with their second rounder, Alexandre Mallet. Passed over the past 2 drafts but had a breakout season with Rimouski - 81 points in 68 games, 25 points in 21 playoff games. He's 6"1, 195lbs and a mix of skill, grit and decent size. He's a centreman, though some sites list him as a winger as well.

CanucksTV: 2nd Round Pick Alexandre Mallet - YouTube

He can also throw.

Justin Hache vs Alexandre Mallet Dec 11, 2011 - YouTube

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9oAMoJzTIPs

He's 20 this year so can play for the Wolves if he does not make the cut. Could be a great or awful pick, time will tell.

SkinnyPupp
06-23-2012, 07:54 AM
Cool another Burrows! My favourite kind of player

Renthal
06-23-2012, 07:59 AM
boston trades benoit pouliot's rights to lightning..

leafs trade gustavsson's right's to winnipeg

kristianhay
06-23-2012, 08:12 AM
Canucks take D Ben Hutton in the 5th round out of the CCHL (Junior A).


“He’s the best defenseman in our league, by far. He’s like a man among boys out there,” said Kemptville coach and general manager Pat Malloy. “He oozes with pro potential. His skill level is so high.”

“He’s big and his puck skills and hands are off the charts,” added Malloy. “He’s a one-man forecheck breaker, he has a good shot and he’s an above-average skater. He plays 35 minutes a game and plays important minutes against the other team’s top line.”

University of Maine hockey lands point-producing defenseman for next season — Sports — Bangor Daily News — BDN Maine (http://bangordailynews.com/2011/12/29/sports/umaine-sports/university-of-maine-hockey-lands-point-producing-defenseman-for-next-season/)

68style
06-23-2012, 09:33 AM
I never get excited about this stuff anymore, we never do anything crazy or cool................. Luongo's still here and no word on Schultz. See ya in September guys! LOL... I always feel like the Canucks are so lame duck on these kind of days.......

BTW playing a tandem goalie position where both goalies are elite goalies is STUPID, why pay 2 players that kind of money when only 1 of them can be on the ice at any given time? You're not realizing your assets properly in that case and it's so much damn drama every time one of them starts over another.

Hondaracer
06-23-2012, 09:55 AM
Because having 8 mill wrapped up in two good goalies regardless of one being on the bench gets you more points than an 8 mill skater like a richards, lecavlier, ovi, etc

PornMaster
06-23-2012, 10:06 AM
Because having 8 mill wrapped up in two good goalies regardless of one being on the bench gets you more points than an 8 mill skater like a richards, lecavlier, ovi, etc

Proof?

kristianhay
06-23-2012, 10:19 AM
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
FLA and TOR likely 2 most interested teams in Luongo but believe price is too steep. VAN says things are progressing but seem in no rush.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Just a hunch, but I would suspect Corey Schneider will sign new deal BEFORE any Luongo deal is done. Schneider negotiations ongoing.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
PHX D Keith Yandle was most certainly in play for trade, steep asking price, now looks as tho PHX has pulled him back...for now anyway.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Negotiations between WPG and Ondrej Pavelec will resume now that draft is over. Getting down to the nitty gritty now. Pavelec has KHL offer.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Teams interested in Rick Nash say asking price remains high and there's no sense out of CBJ anything is imminent. Likely to be post-July 1.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Justin Schultz becomes UFA at midnight Sunday night. Blue-chip D prospect to meet with agent(s) in Toronto on Tuesday. Will field offers Wed

Thought I'd post Bob Mac's latest updates for those not on twitter!

spideyv2
06-23-2012, 10:26 AM
sorry if it's over your head bra

Lol, I gotta stop RSing when im drinking

spideyv2
06-23-2012, 10:27 AM
Cant believe dalton thrower was taken 51st overall, 6 spots up on our second rounder

Hondaracer
06-23-2012, 10:28 AM
Proof?

I'd say schneids winning 18 of 24 starts or whatever he did coming off the bench is all the proof u need

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 12:38 PM
agreed nothing exciting going on with the nucks

kristianhay
06-23-2012, 01:06 PM
Schenn traded for JVR.

Tim Budong
06-23-2012, 01:07 PM
JVR for Luke Schenn
Leafs get their forward
Flyers get their D

Not really racist!
06-23-2012, 01:07 PM
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

MR_BIGGS
06-23-2012, 01:08 PM
I like JVR.

Another brother joins his sibling.

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 01:10 PM
wow Luke Schenn for van Riemsdyk

MR_BIGGS
06-23-2012, 01:12 PM
Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown:

Per @InKesselWeTrust : Insider Eklund's latest blog - "Flyers and Leafs are reportedly in discussions.. I am told it is NOT JvR for Schenn."
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:suspicious:

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 01:14 PM
earlier today @kevin_mcgran: Leafs traded Rights to G JOnas Gustavsson to Winnipeg for conditional 7th rd next year

Tim Budong
06-23-2012, 01:18 PM
I believe Luke Schenn was being offered to Gillis for Luongo
hahaha

Renthal
06-23-2012, 01:20 PM
jvr for luongo please

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 01:31 PM
gotta admit burke knows how to deal

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2012, 01:37 PM
Maybe Burke is aquiring pieces for the Luongo Trade. Im gonna say JVR will land in Vancouver pretty soon

Renthal
06-23-2012, 01:41 PM
i bet philly is prepping itself for carle's departure

murd0c
06-23-2012, 01:43 PM
I don't know about JVR. Yes hes a good player but with hip issues and Philly pressuring him to have surgery and he didn't kinda makes me worried.

RiceIntegraRS
06-23-2012, 01:56 PM
I really want Bobby Ryan on this team. Hes a human highlight reel.

Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2012, 02:05 PM
I'm very sceptical about this trade right now. Schenn has played his nhl career without an actual defensive system to play within. I was hoping to see how he would do with Carlyle.

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 02:05 PM
both were underachieving players in their markets, so it was a good trade for both teams

Bouncing Bettys
06-23-2012, 02:28 PM
Just occured to me that Schenn was the longest serving leaf of the current roster, if I'm not mistaken. Been a lot of movement since JFJ got the boot.

highfive
06-23-2012, 03:17 PM
Watch Schenn explodes to an awesome shut down defenceman with the help of Pronger. Burke would be..I still believe in JVR etc etc... lol

spideyv2
06-23-2012, 03:32 PM
Down Goes Brown ‏@DownGoesBrown:

Per @InKesselWeTrust : Insider Eklund's latest blog - "Flyers and Leafs are reportedly in discussions.. I am told it is NOT JvR for Schenn."
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:suspicious:

Eklund's a fucking idiot

411ken
06-23-2012, 04:01 PM
Watch Schenn explodes to an awesome shut down defenceman with the help of Pronger. Burke would be..I still believe in JVR etc etc... lol

Doesn't this thought occur for every single prospect trades that happens lol... pretty even trade imo

JVR-Lupul-Kessel...

yesterday it was staal bros joining together... now its' the schenn bros... maybe luke schenn can blossom with help from philly vets

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 04:08 PM
some bs rumour on twitter going on about gagner for luongo trade LOL

spideyv2
06-23-2012, 04:09 PM
Doesn't this thought occur for every single prospect trades that happens lol... pretty even trade imo

JVR-Lupul-Kessel...

yesterday it was staal bros joining together... now its' the schenn bros... maybe luke schenn can blossom with help from philly vets

who's next.... maybe we will trade for kassian's bro lol.. haha

Matt Kassian is not related to Zack. He's a plug anyway

411ken
06-23-2012, 04:14 PM
^ Ya... i edited it after I searched him up.. sure fooled me

411ken
06-23-2012, 04:15 PM
I wonder if Schultz will be signing with the leafs now after that Schenn trade..

kristianhay
06-23-2012, 04:15 PM
While you can expect Nash to be dealt sometime in July, it’s harder to tell with Luongo.

Two teams have clear interest in Luongo: Florida and Toronto. Both teams held dialogue with Vancouver at the draft. But both the Panthers and Maple Leafs were unimpressed with the opening asking price from the Canucks. Way too high, was the reaction. But that’s natural in these discussions. It’s only a starting point.

But what it also tells you is that the Canucks aren’t going to buy in to this theory that they have to simply take whatever they can to get rid of Luongo’s monster contract. He’s still a top-level goalie and the Canucks are adamant they will make a hockey deal, not a CBA dump deal. You can’t blame Vancouver for that. Simply put: If Toronto gets Luongo, for example, it makes the playoffs next season, in my opinion. Think that shouldn’t be motivation enough for the Leafs?

Know this from the Panthers: They’ve decided this weekend they’re going to see this Luongo thing through. They’re going to focus on it seriously.

Know this, Part 2: Canucks GM Mike Gillis also will see this through. He’s not giving Luongo away. If the proper deal isn’t there this summer, he’s prepared to have Luongo come to camp and wait until a team gets serious into the season before the trade deadline. The question is, would Luongo be OK with that?

he Canucks and Cory Schneider’s agent, Mike Liut, chatted this weekend but are not close at all on a new deal. I can’t see Schneider signing until Luongo is at least close to being traded. ... The Canucks shopped Marc-Andre Gragnani over the weekend but found no takers. Gragnani hasn’t been given a qualying offer yet by the Canucks. If he isn’t by Monday’s 5 pm ET deadline, he’ll turn UFA July 1. ... And I leave you with this sobering note: The league and NHL Players’ Association are tentatively scheduled to begin CBA talks late this week. Don’t hold your breath: I don’t expect any kind of real progress in talks until September.

Luongo, Nash survive trade winds at draft - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN (http://espn.go.com/blog/nhl/post/_/id/17936/luongo-nash-survive-trade-winds-at-draft)

I'd love to see JVR come this way. Burke said Schenn was not on the market previously so, I foresee a Luongo trade coming sooner than later.

pastarocket
06-23-2012, 04:16 PM
It's been a week of family reunions in terms of NHL trades. First the Staal brothers get to play together now the Schenns.

C'mon Gillis, get a trade done for Luongo! He has a limited time window to unload Luongo, get a player or more back in return so that he has the cap room to sign Schneider.

Canucks must avoid the situation where another team gives an offer sheet to Schneider starting on July 1st. Free agent frenzy starts next Sunday.

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 06:14 PM
the luongo thing is rly dragging, doubt anything will happen anytime soon

Adam Jahns ‏@adamjahns
Hearing the words of Dale Tallon and Brian Burke, it's very clear the asking price for Roberto Luongo is very high right now.

Tim Budong
06-23-2012, 06:39 PM
Asking price maybe high, but I have no issues with both goalies in town when the season starts

Spoon
06-23-2012, 06:49 PM
^
As fans sure. But the atmosphere in the locker room will probably be toxic. I'd expect MG to lose his job if we under achieve in any way.

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 06:50 PM
ya I would love them both here, but I Just don't see how lu and schneids can be put together, nor can I see them sharing ice time. Just won't happen. I'm pretty confident one of them will be moved

BMW M5
06-23-2012, 08:38 PM
i cant see Lu go back into that locker room, he got way too much pride and ego.

Start the season with Schneider and Lack as back up. Put Lu in the press box and away from the team to keep the distraction to a minimal

SkinnyPupp
06-23-2012, 08:48 PM
Maybe Burke is aquiring pieces for the Luongo Trade. Im gonna say JVR will land in Vancouver pretty soon
If so :victory:

cliffhanger33
06-23-2012, 09:06 PM
Rly seems like leafs are clearing cap space, by letting go the Monster as well as Schenn; ssigh too much speculation

Gilgamesh
06-23-2012, 09:08 PM
^ not true. Schenn was 3.6mil and gustavsson was 1.35mil. JVR is a 4.25mil cap hit

b0unce. [?]
06-23-2012, 10:02 PM
That wouldn't be an issue for the leafs if they are able to move jvr for luongo :D

Tim Budong
06-23-2012, 10:42 PM
No one said Lu wanted out
he will deny it, and so will the canucks themselves

But yea, Luongo isnt classless, and will continue to play because I think we know Gillis wont move him for nothing even if he shits the bed

The Canucks can't afford to give him away since our depth overall as a team sucks.

b0unce. [?]
06-23-2012, 11:29 PM
personally i think it's pointless to move either goalie unless whatever we get in return is well worth it. i'll feel more comfortable with 2 goalies going into the playoffs. if some freak accident happens, we'll have insurance. that's me playing it safe though.

EmperorIS
06-23-2012, 11:30 PM
;7956920']personally i think it's pointless to move either goalie unless whatever we get in return is well worth it. i'll feel more comfortable with 2 goalies going into the playoffs. if some freak accident happens, we'll have insurance. that's me playing it safe though.

You don't say.

spideyv2
06-23-2012, 11:38 PM
Luu is not going to the Leafs. Trading Schenn made space to sign Schultz

Phaneuf - Liles
Gardiner - Schultz

notbad.jpg

b0unce. [?]
06-23-2012, 11:43 PM
You don't say.

seems like everyone would rather run schneids & lack :okay:

mickz
06-23-2012, 11:47 PM
Rly seems like leafs are clearing cap space, by letting go the Monster as well as Schenn; ssigh too much speculation

Brian Burke stands by James Reimer, similar to how he toughed it out with a back up calibre goaltender (Dan Cloutier) as a starter here in Vancouver. They also have Ben Scrivens who is NHL ready and has had success with the Toronto Marlies in the AHL. If they don't intend on re-signing the Monster they might as well try trading away his rights for something.

i cant see Lu go back into that locker room, he got way too much pride and ego.

Start the season with Schneider and Lack as back up. Put Lu in the press box and away from the team to keep the distraction to a minimal

Nothing would hurt his trade value more than sending him to the press box. As the GM/coach, you try telling the owners you are going to pay Luongo $6.7M next year and have him sit.

Lack will not come up next year either. The Canucks goaltending prospects are getting rather thin at the moment. Matt Climie is scheduled to be a UFA and Joe Cannata was released from his tryout contract in April. In order to develop a goaltender like Eddie Lack he will need to see more and more games in the AHL and not be rushed into a backup role at the NHL level.

There are decent AHL and NHL backup calibre goaltenders available via Free Agency this year.

No one said Lu wanted out
he will deny it, and so will the canucks themselves

But yea, Luongo isnt classless, and will continue to play because I think we know Gillis wont move him for nothing even if he shits the bed

The Canucks can't afford to give him away since our depth overall as a team sucks.

I don't think he wants out either but the casual fans and media are chasing him out of this city more than him wanting out. The entire team gets outplayed in the playoffs and everyone just points the finger at the goalie. Where was the rest of the team? This city won't be happy with Luongo until he starts scoring the goals too. Expect Ryan Kesler to be the next player to get thrown under the bus.

the luongo thing is rly dragging, doubt anything will happen anytime soon

Adam Jahns ‏@adamjahns
Hearing the words of Dale Tallon and Brian Burke, it's very clear the asking price for Roberto Luongo is very high right now.

I doubt anything will happen prior to the start of the season. The Canucks are asking a very high price because the free agent crop of goalies is pretty limited this year. Many people think the Canucks absolutely must/will move him and that just isn't the case. I expect him to play come Training Camp.

The Canucks won't come out as a winner with a trade if they deal him at this point. What exactly do the Canucks need or what are they looking for right now? The only situation I see Luongo being dealt is if the Canucks take back players of similar salary and get draft picks as an incentive to take these crap contracts. The Canucks need a NHL ready roster player who can make an impact. I don't see the two speculated destinations to have players that the Canucks would want.

mickz
06-23-2012, 11:57 PM
;7956920']personally i think it's pointless to move either goalie unless whatever we get in return is well worth it. i'll feel more comfortable with 2 goalies going into the playoffs. if some freak accident happens, we'll have insurance. that's me playing it safe though.

The people who want Luongo out of this city never had to put up with the bullshit goaltending the Canucks had when the team sucked. The long time fans can appreciate the depth the team has in goal at the moment.

The Canucks have a reputation of playing well in the regular season and not showing up in the playoffs but Luongo is the only one to blame.

UFO
06-23-2012, 11:58 PM
Luu is not going to the Leafs. Trading Schenn made space to sign Schultz


That's the way I see it too but not for cap space since Schultz will be on entry level deal so ~900k/yr. More to show Schultz that he will be guaranteed top 4 minutes.

spideyv2
06-24-2012, 12:13 AM
That's the way I see it too but not for cap space since Schultz will be on entry level deal so ~900k/yr. More to show Schultz that he will be guaranteed top 4 minutes.

Yes, clearly not for cap space

UFO
06-24-2012, 12:17 AM
Gotta hand it to Burke for knowing how to play his pieces, although the move is a bit risky. Now has he done enough to show Schultz they have a team capable of winning?

b0unce. [?]
06-24-2012, 01:04 AM
On paper, leafs actually look pretty good. I mean really they only need a forward, dman and goalie. iirc i think they have some solid guys like armstrong, grabovski, lupul, steckel, macarthur, kessel and lombardi and now jvr

their d is really just phaneuf, gardiner and gunnarsson? kind of scary how much they transformed the team from what it was.

AzNightmare
06-24-2012, 01:19 AM
You don't say.

You'd think it's THAT obvious, but it appears many people on here are so eagar to toss Lu asap,
that if they were MG, they'll almost be willing to trade him for a bag of pucks just to make a deal happen.

MG's not going to do anything retarded, so everyone, hold your horses.


Expect Ryan Kesler to be the next player to get thrown under the bus.

I don't really have a problem with Kesler, although I hate his ego. I'm just glad he's playing for the Canucks.
He was a beast in 2011, especially against Nashville in the playoffs. But he underachieved a lot this past season.
I think everyone is expecting him to redeem himself next season. But if he doesn't, and blame it on another hidden injury,
I think yes, he will get thrown under the bus.

mickz
06-24-2012, 01:43 AM
I don't really have a problem with Kesler, although I hate his ego. I'm just glad he's playing for the Canucks.
He was a beast in 2011, especially against Nashville in the playoffs. But he underachieved a lot this past season.
I think everyone is expecting him to redeem himself next season. But if he doesn't, and blame it on another hidden injury,
I think yes, he will get thrown under the bus.

He overachieved in 2010/11 and now people expect him to score 40+ goals every year when he is a career 25 goal scorer at best.

Kesler is putting up Burrows-like numbers... but at 2.5x the price.

EmperorIS
06-24-2012, 01:48 AM
what the hell i didn't say that

Bonka
06-24-2012, 01:53 AM
He overachieved in 2010/11 and now people expect him to score 40+ goals every year when he is a career 25 goal scorer at best.

I wouldn't say so much that he overachieved rather everything that could go right for him did go right that season. Stats padding on weak teams also helps the cause.

The Nashville series for me defines what Kesler's game can be at it's peak which is a savage 2-way forward. 25-30g seasons seem far more the norm for him. Maybe if he moved over to wing..

noots
06-24-2012, 02:07 AM
Lack will not come up next year either. The Canucks goaltending prospects are getting rather thin at the moment. Matt Climie is scheduled to be a UFA and Joe Cannata was released from his tryout contract in April. In order to develop a goaltender like Eddie Lack he will need to see more and more games in the AHL and not be rushed into a backup role at the NHL level.

Actually Joe Cannata is still under contract with the Canucks. He signed his entry level deal in March. He played the last game of the season for the Wolves on his ATO and was released from that try out the next day as he was ineligible to play in the playoffs. Went back and finished his degree. He's expected to play with the Wolves next season.

But you're right. After Cannata, there's only Hoznik and the scouting reports on him over the past year don't look very good. Hopefully he can rebound next season with Cape Breton.

AzNightmare
06-24-2012, 03:29 AM
what the hell i didn't say that

lol, what the hell, how did I end up quoting you?? :suspicious:
my bad. I'll fix it.

He overachieved in 2010/11 and now people expect him to score 40+ goals every year when he is a career 25 goal scorer at best.

Kesler is putting up Burrows-like numbers... but at 2.5x the price.

I don't really care about his goals though, but more concerned about the points he generates. He had a back-to-back 70pt season.
I would think at the very least, a 5mil player should be able to consistently get at least 60+ pts each season. Hope to see him bounce back next season.

RRxtar
06-24-2012, 09:26 AM
what kessler is able to bring to the team is worth a whole fuck load more than the difference between 40 and 30 goal seasons. hes the guy on our team with the ability to take the game over when someone needs to, change momentum and generate energy, hes a selke guy with incredible 2 way ability and shuts down the other teams top guys while still putting up 70 point seasons, and our top PK forward. id rather see him score 25 goals every season but run the game than put in 50 goals on the PP. i wanted to cry and hug the guy watching him try to get something going in game 7 against boston. there were 4 guys on the team who kept playing and he was one of them, and he couldn't even skate. kes, hansen, burrows, and higgins will get a pass from me forever for the heart they showed.

so many short sighted guys here. he had a bad season last year due to absolutely no off season training, no training camp, and a late start, and then played half the season with a bum shoulder.

when hes healthy hes an absolute beast. when hes injured in the playoffs he starts doing the soccer thing (think healthy chicago/nash/SJ vs injured boston/LA series. 2 different guys)

kristianhay
06-24-2012, 01:14 PM
Don't know the legitimacy of this, but interesting none the less. If true, Gillis' asking price is too high.

NHL Rumour Mill ‏@NHL_Rumour_Mill
Mike Gillis and Brian Burke stay in Pittsburgh 1 more day to discuss Luongo. #NHL #Canucks #MapleLeafs #TradeCentre #SNTrade #LuongoWatch

NHL Rumour Mill ‏@NHL_Rumour_Mill
Gillis asking for two 1st rounders + Gardiner, Burke refuses to move Gardiner. #NHL #Canucks #MapleLeafs #TradeCentre #SNTrade #LuongoWatch

spideyv2
06-24-2012, 01:38 PM
You can usually tell who's legit by looking at their followers. Too many garbage rumors being posted.

kristianhay
06-24-2012, 01:40 PM
Yeah I know that, but it doesn't seem like it's too far off to be a garbage rumor. Burke did say the asking price was too high.

spideyv2
06-24-2012, 01:42 PM
I would do Lu for Gardiner, but Burke knows he has to keep gard if he wants a shot at schultz

cliffhanger33
06-24-2012, 01:47 PM
interesting, i would also do lu for gardiner but doubt that will happen

Bouncing Bettys
06-24-2012, 01:54 PM
I would do Lu for Gardiner, but Burke knows he has to keep gard if he wants a shot at schultz

Burke also knows the cap space he has to work with and the potential value of Gardiner so that deal isn't happening with or without Schultz

nah
06-24-2012, 02:30 PM
Getting Lu will save his job though. If ML don't make the playoffs this year, Burke's going to get fired.

Lu will get them to the playoffs.

kristianhay
06-24-2012, 03:32 PM
Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline
Don't know where this stands now, but over #NHLdraft weekend I heard G Roberto Luongo to Chicago, if the #Blackhawks could make $$$ work.

14k followers, seems like a legit source. Retweeted by 1040 as well.

I just wish there was something a bit more solid.

cliffhanger33
06-24-2012, 03:57 PM
Lu to chicago? :heckno:

DanHibiki
06-24-2012, 04:07 PM
what confusing emotions there must be for both vancouver/chicago if that trade happens.

murd0c
06-24-2012, 06:42 PM
All depends who we would get in return tho

cliffhanger33
06-24-2012, 06:44 PM
Kane for luongo :troll:

mb_
06-24-2012, 06:56 PM
Toews for Luongo :troll:

HonestTea
06-24-2012, 07:02 PM
Toews and Kane for Luongo :troll: :troll:

Mike Oxbig
06-24-2012, 07:09 PM
Sharp or Hossa for Luongo, just what we need

Verdasco
06-24-2012, 07:33 PM
toews? yea right, :fuckthatshit: Sharp, :fuckthatshit: no way they can do that. Hossa? :fuckthatshit: no way LOL

kanes on the other hand.... :suspicious: he is thinking about out.... so maybe :concentrate:

Mike Oxbig
06-24-2012, 07:35 PM
Kanes parents wants him back home in Buffalo

Verdasco
06-24-2012, 07:36 PM
ok, kanes is such a momma's boy :lawl:

gotta get the bags up and running kane, mommy is not gonna wait in the dodge caravan for your hockey practice. She wants her starbucks :troll:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqsOMkPt_Bg

punkwax
06-24-2012, 07:47 PM
If they're offering Kane you wonder if MG can look past the drama that surrounds him. His talent is undeniable but MG has said he's only interested in smart players with character /integrity.. Kane has some maturing to do and you know that will be a discussion point amongst Canucks brass.

Mike Oxbig
06-24-2012, 07:51 PM
Kane is the best American player in the NHL, Parise is second... "but but but he took the devils to the finals..." thats because hes playing into his contract yr

Kesler and Kane are good friends off ice too :blueguy:

mb_
06-24-2012, 07:57 PM
Kanes parents wants him back home in Buffalo
Kane goes to Buffalo, Luongo goes to Chicago, we get Hodgson back :lawl: :ilied:

punkwax
06-24-2012, 07:58 PM
Parise > Kane IMO

murd0c
06-24-2012, 08:02 PM
With our shitty cab service in Vancouver I don't think Kane would be a good fit :troll:

Mike Oxbig
06-24-2012, 08:06 PM
Fans in Vancouver hates him but gotta respect his skill in hockey

Tim Budong
06-24-2012, 08:16 PM
I think with Kane back in Buffalo, his parents could give him a good smackdown

Verdasco
06-24-2012, 08:39 PM
sucks that these things happen to taxi drivers... they do not deserve to get assaulted but to think of what would happen if patrick kane had a weapon.

:heckno:

VANCOUVER TAXI CAB DRIVER STABED BY PASSENGER TRYING TO ROB HIM - YouTube

SkinnyPupp
06-24-2012, 08:40 PM
Kane in Vancouver (or Granville st in particular) would be a disaster waiting to happen.

kwy
06-24-2012, 09:56 PM
I don't hate Kane..Bolland is another story. Fuck that guy.

Chicago/Vancouver making deals..this has got to be some sort of fucked up joke

cliffhanger33
06-24-2012, 10:18 PM
srsly, only options i see for lu are TOR or TB

Tim Budong
06-24-2012, 10:22 PM
srsly, only options i see for lu are TOR or TB

i cant see TB as a suitor for lui
they have lindback
but in reality, we have to eat up Vinny's contract which is just as bad as Luongo's, hell theres no room for him here down the middle and vinny is most likely to come bck

cliffhanger33
06-24-2012, 10:24 PM
I don't hate Kane..Bolland is another story. Fuck that guy.

Chicago/Vancouver making deals..this has got to be some sort of fucked up joke

http://i.imgur.com/hyJHH.jpg

cliffhanger33
06-24-2012, 10:27 PM
i cant see TB as a suitor for lui
they have lindback
but in reality, we have to eat up Vinny's contract which is just as bad as Luongo's, hell theres no room for him here down the middle and vinny is most likely to come bck

Yeah I agree. With Lindback, TB most liekly removed themselves from the market. Come to think of it, I swear I see FLA as a very good suitor. FLA has a goalie prospect Markstrom, 22 years old, and probably not ready to take over yet; FLA has cap space for Luongo as a good mentor. Plus he met his wife there, and has a home there. Just has to find a way to fix lu's salary in a budget LLOL

Edit:
David Pagnotta ‏@TheFourthPeriod Regarding Luongo, initial typo in story that was fixed. If you didn't see, Canucks want Nick Bjugstad and FLA says no http://bit.ly/MtvEAd

BMW M5
06-24-2012, 10:32 PM
What a headache...we are a like the spca trying to find a home for abandon animals, except its for Lu...poor guy...lol

RiceIntegraRS
06-24-2012, 11:03 PM
Since were not getting players we want for Lu, i think we should just keep him until a team is playing like shit and a GMs job is on the line, he'll make a trade for Luongo to save his job

spideyv2
06-24-2012, 11:52 PM
lol at teams thinking they can get Lu for peanuts, just like how hondaracer thinks we can get bobby.ryan for booth and raymond :lol

Noir
06-25-2012, 12:04 AM
Fuck, I can't believe Lu's fall from grace was this bad.


I remember 5 years ago, this guy was only 2nd to Sidney Crosby about GM's wanting to build a franchise around. Now we're struggling to get "Gardiner" for him?

Ronin
06-25-2012, 03:16 AM
lol at teams thinking they can get Lu for peanuts, just like how hondaracer thinks we can get bobby.ryan for booth and raymond :lol

Let's never speak of that again.

7seven
06-25-2012, 06:13 AM
Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline
Luongo using the power of his no-trade to "steer" a trade to #Panthers as much as possible at this point in off-season.

https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/217240753729044481

Aaron Portzline ‏@Aportzline
Told by very good source #Canucks G Roberto Luongo has - to this point -- declined to waive no-trade clause to go to #Blackhawks or #Leafs.

https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/217238812118614016

Reliable Columbus beat writer

kristianhay
06-25-2012, 06:20 AM
^

Was just about to post that. Looks like the Canucks want Bjustad coming back the other way.

The latest of a flurry of trade rumors concerning Vancouver Canucks goalie Roberto Luongo comes courtesy an American magazine called The Fourth Period. The magazine says Roberto Luongo is only willing to go to the Florida Panthers.
As the hockey world, Digital Journal included, is waiting with great anticipation to hear the gold-medal winning goalie will be shipped to the Toronto Maple Leafs, the Panthers, his former club, may have the inside edge on Bobby Lou's future. The Fourth Period says they do. "The Florida Panthers are serious about bringing back Roberto Luongo to South Florida, one league source told TFP on Sunday," the magazine wrote in a brief story on June 24. "Speaking on the basis of anonymity, the source indicated that Luongo is now only willing to waive his no-movement clause to Florida, where he spends his off-seasons." Something holding up the deal, the magazine says, is Vancouver GM Mike Gillis wants a package that includes the Panthers 2010 Entry Draft 19th overall pick, Nick Bjugstad. He's a skilled center from Minnesota and at 6' 4" has size to go with tremendous skating ability. Bjugstad was drafted out of high-school but has excelled in two years at college since. Florida Panthers or Toronto Maple Leafs or... Obviously, without a source being named, it's hard to gauge the accuracy of the report. The magazine is becoming a respected hockey publication, it's been publishing regularly since 2009, and may be loathe to risk a reputation on shoddy research. Luongo played for the Panthers for five seasons, after being traded there by the team that drafted him, the New York Islanders - he played only 24 games with New York - and was popular during a time when the club was not strong. They did not once make the playoffs during his stay but Luongo had a winning record of 35-30-9 in his last season there, the 2005-06 season. The other selling point is that his wife is from Miami and the Luongo family returns there for the summer months. Given Leafs GM Brian Burke said at the junior draft in Pittsburgh that Gillis was asking too much, and Columbus, the Penguins and Tampa Bay have gone in another direction to solve their goaltending needs, The Fourth Period may be on to something. Of course there's always the Chicago Blackhawks....

http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/327293#ixzz1ylAeywBa

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Lot of Luongo talk about waiving/not waiving NTC. Here's my take: Process has yet to be that formal. His obvious preference is FLA, but...

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
...if FLA doesn't pan out, doors to TOR or elsewhere are not by any means closed. Step by step process that hasn't be formalized in any way.

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
End of day, Luongo has to make sure he doesn't end up in CHI...with AHL Wolves. Right now, tho, FLA and TOR think VAN asking price too high.

SkinnyPupp
06-25-2012, 06:25 AM
Fuck, I can't believe Lu's fall from grace was this bad.


I remember 5 years ago, this guy was only 2nd to Sidney Crosby about GM's wanting to build a franchise around. Now we're struggling to get "Gardiner" for him?

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lh9bj8Zty71qavolh.jpg

Welcome to Vancouver!

AKA The Goalie Graveyard

Vansterdam
06-25-2012, 06:27 AM
lol every goalie that comes to vancouver gets shitted on so badly no matter how well they do


but seriously luongo to chicago? :fuckthatshit: that would be preety messed.

MR_BIGGS
06-25-2012, 06:43 AM
What we know is that there was no wish list of teams as earlier reported by media. Regardless of trade talks with "other" teams, it was suppose to allow the ask for Luongo to go up (competition from other teams talking to Gillis). This sees to have not worked out, because not enough teams got in the hunt and the asking price has been to high.

It was only a matter of time before the reports that Luongo wants back in Florida would start to surface. That's just the place that makes most sense. So now if Gillis is to have any leverage in trade talks he would have to wait until the other teams get desperate. Can you imagine Florida playing well before the trade deadline and Theodore just shitting the bed next season? That would put a lot of pressure on Tallon to make move for Luongo given the circumstances. Maybe Luongo's value is higher once the season starts? He can show what he can do and what other teams are "missing" That being said, what if he starts playing bad?

MR_BIGGS
06-25-2012, 06:51 AM
Also, a telling part of where trade talks are with Gillis is from this quote:

It hasn't been close for me; I'm the problem," Gillis said when asked about trading Luongo. "This is a significant consideration for our organization. It's not going to be done lightly, not going to be done in a hurry and it's certainly not going to be done because of the pressure of selecting kids [at the draft] who in all likelihood aren't even going to be involved in this deal. I don't feel any pressure whatsoever to have done something this weekend.

"When I do the calculation, there are 15 legitimate No. 1 goalies in the world and [Luongo] is one of them. Contrary to what people may think or describe, there's a tremendous amount of interest in players who are high-end players in this league. And finding a fit is occasionally more challenging, but there's definitely fits to be found."



He's putting weight in waiting for the right deal. Maybe more deals will come during the season. A player they want isn't fitting with the current team, a team needs a change, anything can happen.

If the Canucks did make a deal with the Panthers, I want Nick Bjugstad. a 6'4/6'5 American Centre. I drafted the kid for my keeper league like 2 yrs ago, but because of roster space had to waive him :(

Gumby
06-25-2012, 09:46 AM
Pointing out the obvious:

Toronto = media spotlight
Florida = nobody cares about hockey

So Luongo would probably do better in Florida.

7seven
06-25-2012, 09:55 AM
Pointing out the obvious:

Toronto = media spotlight
Florida = nobody cares about hockey

So Luongo would probably do better in Florida.

Another big factor, aside from family/city living conditions, most fans don't realize for players when deciding where they want to play is tax considerations. That is why Florida and Texas pro sports teams are an attractive option, no State income tax, makes a big difference when salaries are in the millions.

kwy
06-25-2012, 10:49 AM
I can't believe we can't even get back no-names for one of the best goalies in the world.

spideyv2
06-25-2012, 10:51 AM
you can thank the shaky playoff performances and that massive contract (yes, I know, the contract isn't as bad as it looks)

kwy
06-25-2012, 10:54 AM
Toronto should just suck it up and deal..they need a real starting goalie. They're running a bunch of 3rd string bums right now. Then again, if I were Luongo, I wouldn't want to play in that market. Just as much scrutiny as in Vancouver, if not more.

JKam
06-25-2012, 10:58 AM
News1130 ‏@News1130radio
Canucks to part ways with Oreskovich and Rome

so it looks like we traded Grabner, Bernier and our first rounder (Howden) for just Ballard haha

Spoon
06-25-2012, 11:01 AM
Toronto should just suck it up and deal..they need a real starting goalie. They're running a bunch of 3rd string bums right now. Then again, if I were Luongo, I wouldn't want to play in that market. Just as much scrutiny as in Vancouver, if not more.

I'm not a believer that Toronto sans goalie issues is a playoff team. The right thing to do is to rebuild. But it's Toronto and Brian Burke, so likely something will happen. :fullofwin:

411ken
06-25-2012, 11:06 AM
Just read that tootoo will test the FA market. Don't know about u guys but I'd love to have this guy on the team. Tootoo train!!!! Get 'er done MG!

mb_
06-25-2012, 11:07 AM
^no

murd0c
06-25-2012, 11:08 AM
I hate fucken Tootoo

Gumby
06-25-2012, 11:08 AM
I can't believe we can't even get back no-names for one of the best goalies in the world.
MG doesn't want a bunch of no-names in exchange for Luongo...

MR_BIGGS
06-25-2012, 11:11 AM
Gillis is kind of limited. If truth be told, and Florida is the only place on Luongo's list, Tallon holds the leverage. That leverage gets less and less, depending on how the season plays out.

If Florida starts shitting the bed, and they have a goalie need (how can they not? Theodore is in net!) then you have to think a deal for Luongo would make sense.

spideyv2
06-25-2012, 11:11 AM
Volpatti-Lapierre-Tootoo

Pepper your angus for some agitating

kwy
06-25-2012, 11:15 AM
MG doesn't want a bunch of no-names in exchange for Luongo...

http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120201175507/fantendo/images/thumb/4/48/You_dont_say.png/453px-You_dont_say.png

Gumby
06-25-2012, 11:18 AM
http://images2.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20120201175507/fantendo/images/thumb/4/48/You_dont_say.png/453px-You_dont_say.png
You just said we can't even get no-names for Luongo! :facepalm:

Spoon
06-25-2012, 11:29 AM
Gillis is kind of limited. If truth be told, and Florida is the only place on Luongo's list, Tallon holds the leverage. That leverage gets less and less, depending on how the season plays out.

MG's own fault really. He should thank his lucky stars Luongo's being semi flexible with his no-trade.

kwy
06-25-2012, 12:07 PM
You just said we can't even get no-names for Luongo! :facepalm:

You missed the point..MG IS asking for no names..and he can't even get them.

Bjugstad, Gardiner, etc may be decent players..but not good enough for one of the best goalies in the league and the world.

highfive
06-25-2012, 12:07 PM
I think Gillis stills has an advantage. He knows all the top goalies are all tied up for a least 3 years with their own respective teams.

From the top of my head, I can only think Kipper is the next goalie to be a UFA. ( I believe Quick is RFA).

In order to settle for a #1 goalie, you would have to pay up. If not, go trade 2nd, 3rd, 4th rounders for a Borbovsky.

Tim Budong
06-25-2012, 12:13 PM
On a lighter note

Sakic, Shanahan, Mats Sundin and JR are eligible for the Hall of Fame and the announcement is today I believe

Joe Sakic most likely will get inducted this year

kwy
06-25-2012, 12:16 PM
Bure and Mogilny are eligible and still not inducted..

Gh0stRider
06-25-2012, 12:22 PM
@Sportsnet Report: Luongo trying to force Florida trade
Report: Luongo trying to force Florida trade - sportsnet.ca (http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/2012/06/25/roberto_luongo_wont_waive_no_trade_toronto/)

Hondaracer
06-25-2012, 12:23 PM
How do any of you "know" MG is being turned down on these deals? :/

MindBomber
06-25-2012, 12:38 PM
https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/217240753729044481



https://twitter.com/Aportzline/status/217238812118614016

Reliable Columbus beat writer

All along I've been expecting this report to eventually come out. If Luongo did agree to be traded, I don't see what motivation he would have to move to Toronto or Chicago. Luongo wants to move to a franchise with less public scrutiny, closer to his wife's family. Neither Toronto or Chicago achieve those ends. If Luongo is traded, it will be to Florida.

My ideal scenario would be to keep Loungo, but given the AV spilled that he requested a trade I don't know if that will be possible. If the public was tough on Loungo before, it's going to a living nightmare now. If Luongo stays with the team, every time he hits a lull people will not only blame exclusively for losses, but start screaming that the organization should have just settled with XXX trade deal to drop him because he isn't committed to the team... and so on...

Am I the only one who has Bure come to mind when reading about Luongo, right now?

LSF22
06-25-2012, 01:03 PM
.Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Ondrej Pavelec's new deal in WPG is 5 yrs, with annual cap hit of $3.9M.


Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Pavelec year by year: 3.25M 3.5M 3.75M 4.25M 4.75M

highfive
06-25-2012, 01:04 PM
WTF?

Roberto Luongo Florida Panthers - 2011-2012 Stats - Florida Panthers - Team (http://panthers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8466141)

bobbinka
06-25-2012, 01:05 PM
WTF?

Roberto Luongo Florida Panthers - 2011-2012 Stats - Florida Panthers - Team (http://panthers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8466141)

all historical players are listed.... http://panthers.nhl.com/club/historicalplayers.htm?letter=L

current roster does not have him

highfive
06-25-2012, 01:12 PM
Ohhh I was :suspicious: and like wtf is going on?

Even more weird is Gragnani is has not been qualified and is a UFA.

But last week, Gillis said he was qualified? :suspicious:

kwy
06-25-2012, 01:15 PM
He's a plug anyway.

Gh0stRider
06-25-2012, 01:22 PM
@provincesports #Canucks have nothing for Rome, Ebbett, Oreskovich, Gragnani and Parent Canucks have nothing for Rome, Ebbett, Oreskovich, Duco, Gragnani and Parent (http://theprov.in/MkMDFE)

MR_BIGGS
06-25-2012, 01:31 PM
The media have nothing to write about.

First it was the teams on Luongo's list being reported..."Leafs are on the list of teams Luongo submitted to Gillis."

Then with the draft nearing, "Gillis wants immediate returns and not prospects or draft picks."

Now, it's "Luongo forcing Gillis' hand by only wanting to be traded to Florida."


If the media can somehow spin this into a Luongo is forcing Gillis into a bad trade scenario, and the Vancouver faithful eat it up, I've lost all faith in fans.

Either Gillis was dumb to hand out no movement clauses like candy to every core player or Luongo earned that perk in his contract so when he was put in a position like he is now, he could have say on where he goes.


It's all BS.

rsx
06-25-2012, 01:45 PM
@provincesports #Canucks have nothing for Rome, Ebbett, Oreskovich, Gragnani and Parent Canucks have nothing for Rome, Ebbett, Oreskovich, Duco, Gragnani and Parent (http://theprov.in/MkMDFE)

Damn, I was hoping they'd give Gragnani a bit more time to develop, what a waste on Sulzer.

highfive
06-25-2012, 01:52 PM
Off The Record : OTR: James van Riemsdyk (http://watch.tsn.ca/off-the-record/clip708602#clip708602)

Watch the OTR for JVR...at 1:10..Toronto Maple Leaf hat..hahaha

spideyv2
06-25-2012, 02:01 PM
Lol at Gillis lying about qualifying grags

jeedee
06-25-2012, 02:41 PM
I'd be ecstatic if we got either Bjugstad or Gudbranson back from Florida

One can dream tho

411ken
06-25-2012, 02:56 PM
Pavelec signs with Winnipeg. 5 yrs. 3.9m cap hit per

Jer3
06-25-2012, 03:13 PM
this was on the top of /r/hockey on reddit and was so ridiculous i had to post it. hopefully not a repost.


How highly did the Blue Jackets value defenseman Ryan Murray before taking him with the No. 2 overall pick in Friday's first round of the NHL Draft? Enough to turn down an eye-opening offer from the New York Islanders, who, according to numerous NHL sources, offered all of their picks -- one in each round -- for the right to move up from No. 4 to No. 2 for Murray.
That's right, for the Jackets' No. 2 pick, the Islanders offered pick Nos. 4, 34, 65, 103, 125, 155 and 185. The bounty would have given the Jackets the following picks: 4, 31, 34, 62, 65, 95, 103, 125, 152, 155, 182 and 185. And if that weren't enough, the Jackets could have had the Kings' No. 30 if they wanted it.
Next week's development camp would have required two sheets of ice.
Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson offered a "no comment" when reached by The Dispatch late Sunday. After Friday's first round, he did mention a "very attractive" trade offer the Blue Jackets declined before selection Murray, a precocious prospect whom many think could play in the NHL this season.
The Islanders, unable to move up for Murray, drafted highly-touted defenseman Griffin Reinhart with the No. 4 pick. But they didn't stop there. The Islanders spent all seven of their picks on defensemen.

Tim Budong
06-25-2012, 03:26 PM
this was on the top of /r/hockey on reddit and was so ridiculous i had to post it. hopefully not a repost.


How highly did the Blue Jackets value defenseman Ryan Murray before taking him with the No. 2 overall pick in Friday's first round of the NHL Draft? Enough to turn down an eye-opening offer from the New York Islanders, who, according to numerous NHL sources, offered all of their picks -- one in each round -- for the right to move up from No. 4 to No. 2 for Murray.
That's right, for the Jackets' No. 2 pick, the Islanders offered pick Nos. 4, 34, 65, 103, 125, 155 and 185. The bounty would have given the Jackets the following picks: 4, 31, 34, 62, 65, 95, 103, 125, 152, 155, 182 and 185. And if that weren't enough, the Jackets could have had the Kings' No. 30 if they wanted it.
Next week's development camp would have required two sheets of ice.
Blue Jackets GM Scott Howson offered a "no comment" when reached by The Dispatch late Sunday. After Friday's first round, he did mention a "very attractive" trade offer the Blue Jackets declined before selection Murray, a precocious prospect whom many think could play in the NHL this season.
The Islanders, unable to move up for Murray, drafted highly-touted defenseman Griffin Reinhart with the No. 4 pick. But they didn't stop there. The Islanders spent all seven of their picks on defensemen.

:suspicious:

anyways..........

The reality of suitors for Luongo was slim to begin with, and will be slim going forward. Gillis is asking for too much, and he admits that he, himself is the problem.

I can't see Toronto as a suitor with or without Schenn simply because Toronto is in very rough shape for depth in the future. Burke isn't going to part with any "promising" prospect as he shot himself in the foot after the Kessel trade. It knocked off two years off their development as a team and Burke isn't stupid to make the trade.

What can Luongo bring in return that the Canucks need? A forward for Kesler and Booth? ANOTHER 3rd line center plug?

What about defensive depth, with Rome gone, the responsibility now lies on Tanev. Bring in another guy to fill the hole left by Salo? not many of those guys out there that doesn't come with a big price tag.

This is why I can't see Luongo being moved ANYTIME SOON, theres too many "holes" and it seems like Gillis is trying to fill them all with one big trade.

Prospects are tough to part with in any given situation, and if Gillis is focused on winning it all, Prospects arn't going to cut it in the short term.

Ronin
06-25-2012, 03:28 PM
So weird that they would go to all that trouble to play Gragnani at the end of the year last season but then not bother to even qualify him.

Letting Rome go just tells me they're looking to bring in another D or they're really sold on Tanev being top-4.

JKam
06-25-2012, 03:39 PM
Letting Rome go just tells me they're looking to bring in another D or they're really sold on Tanev being top-4.

Or it means Gillis has had enough of AV's hard-on for Rome.

kristianhay
06-25-2012, 04:18 PM
Please be true.

Sam Carchidi ‏@BroadStBull
Reports are that Schultz wants to play in Canada. Hearing Vancouver.

Writer for the Philly Inquirer, 12k followers.

murd0c
06-25-2012, 04:21 PM
It does help hes from K-Town and his family are died hard Canucks fans. That would be huge if we landed him for free.

spideyv2
06-25-2012, 04:35 PM
Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Garrison
Ballard - Schultz

That would be a hella solid D corpse

DanHibiki
06-25-2012, 04:35 PM
^-Korea-town...? Robson and Cardero? :troll:



Man I'm tired of all this speculations. I hold my breath everyday when I come into this thread seeing if there are any big moves yet.

mb_
06-25-2012, 04:36 PM
If we sign Schultz... :ahwow:

Maybe that's why Rome and Gragnani won't be back for next season.. lol

MR_BIGGS
06-25-2012, 04:40 PM
:suspicious:

anyways..........

The reality of suitors for Luongo was slim to begin with, and will be slim going forward. Gillis is asking for too much, and he admits that he, himself is the problem.

I can't see Toronto as a suitor with or without Schenn simply because Toronto is in very rough shape for depth in the future. Burke isn't going to part with any "promising" prospect as he shot himself in the foot after the Kessel trade. It knocked off two years off their development as a team and Burke isn't stupid to make the trade.

What can Luongo bring in return that the Canucks need? A forward for Kesler and Booth? ANOTHER 3rd line center plug?

What about defensive depth, with Rome gone, the responsibility now lies on Tanev. Bring in another guy to fill the hole left by Salo? not many of those guys out there that doesn't come with a big price tag.

This is why I can't see Luongo being moved ANYTIME SOON, theres too many "holes" and it seems like Gillis is trying to fill them all with one big trade.

Prospects are tough to part with in any given situation, and if Gillis is focused on winning it all, Prospects arn't going to cut it in the short term.

Finally a voice of reason.

Please be true.



Writer for the Philly Inquirer, 12k followers.

If we sign Schultz... :ahwow:

I read an article about this today. How we as hockey fans are so craving hockey news that we now put weight in scoop from people on twitter that are legitimate based on how many followers they have..:seriously:

I also saw reports about Schultz and how Edmonton is the place he'll go.

UFO
06-25-2012, 04:48 PM
I think letting Grag go after saying he'll be qualified is a move to court Schultz, same with letting Rome walk as well.

Unless the qualifying offers were sent through post mail and hadn't arrived yet ;)

Blah_Teggie
06-25-2012, 04:51 PM
Can someone please explain all the hype surrounding this Schultz kid? Who is he and why does everybody thinks he's so good? He's never played a single NHL game, he was drafted 4 years ago 43rd overall, he went 2 picks after we took Sauve and was the 19th defenceman taken in that years draft. So what makes this kid a can't miss prospect?

murd0c
06-25-2012, 04:57 PM
Can someone please explain all the hype surrounding this Schultz kid? Who is he and why does everybody thinks he's so good? He's never played a single NHL game, he was drafted 4 years ago 43rd overall, he went 2 picks after we took Sauve and was the 19th defenceman taken in that years draft. So what makes this kid a can't miss prospect?

Plenty of interest in pending UFA Justin Schultz - The Hockey News (http://www.thehockeynews.com/articles/47786-Plenty-of-interest-in-pending-UFA-Justin-Schultz.html)

pastarocket
06-25-2012, 04:59 PM
Did somebody forget to take Lu off the Florida website? -peculiar. :suspicious:

Roberto Luongo Florida Panthers - 2011-2012 Stats - Florida Panthers - Team (http://panthers.nhl.com/club/player.htm?id=8466141)

mb_
06-25-2012, 05:01 PM
^already been posted last page..

DanHibiki
06-25-2012, 05:01 PM
Anyone remember Jesse Shultz? Supposedly the final piece to the Sedin line? :troll:

kristianhay
06-25-2012, 05:06 PM
Finally a voice of reason.





I read an article about this today. How we as hockey fans are so craving hockey news that we now put weight in scoop from people on twitter that are legitimate based on how many followers they have..:seriously:

I also saw reports about Schultz and how Edmonton is the place he'll go.

Eh, it's the offseason. Speculating and keeping up with rumors makes it a little more fun and interesting, especially when you've been following the team for so long!

Schultz is just a complete player and has put up good stats wherever he has been.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA62fsldQMU

pastarocket
06-25-2012, 05:06 PM
-glad we have Gillis as a GM compared to some of the plugs in the NHL.

For example, Garth Snow. :lawl:

@NHL: REPORT: #Isles offered all picks for #CBJ 2nd overall. Story: Report: Isles offered all picks to Jackets for No. 2 - NHL.com - News (http://ow.ly/bONMy) #NHLDraft” //

spoon.ek9
06-25-2012, 05:20 PM
pretty sure everyone is aware of how stupid Garth Snow is as a GM already :lol

RRxtar
06-25-2012, 05:23 PM
its not garth snow, its the entire islanders organization

MR_BIGGS
06-25-2012, 05:30 PM
Can someone please explain all the hype surrounding this Schultz kid? Who is he and why does everybody thinks he's so good? He's never played a single NHL game, he was drafted 4 years ago 43rd overall, he went 2 picks after we took Sauve and was the 19th defenceman taken in that years draft. So what makes this kid a can't miss prospect?


Coveted NHL free agent Justin Schultz a (http://www.montrealgazette.com/hockey/nhlnews/Coveted+free+agent+Justin+Schultz+pretty+special+p layer/6838677/story.html)

VANCOUVER — Justin Schultz handles the puck in a cool and confident manner. He quarterbacks the power play to perfection, efficiently finds the net and did it all to critical acclaim in three seasons at the University of Wisconsin.

But can the coveted unrestricted free-agent defenceman turn promise into efficiency at the NHL level?

Judging by the clamour to court the former Anaheim second-round 2008 draft pick — he became a UFA on Monday thanks to a loophole in the expiring NHL collective bargaining agreement that cites his extra year of BCHL play before jumping to the NCAA and then snubbing the Ducks at the June 1 signing deadline — there’s widespread belief that at age 21, the West Kelowna, B.C., product has a level of maturity to excel at the pro game.

And with Schultz limited to a two-year, entry-level contract at $925,000 US annually, suitors are salivating. It makes his reported demand for NHL ice time seem moot if he’s that good after amassing 16 goals and 44 points in 37 games with the NCAA Badgers last season.

Rylan Ferster coached Schultz in the 2008 World Junior A Challenge when he guided the Salmon Arm Silverbacks. And while it’s hard to predict NHL potential from a BCHL star, he saw enough of Schultz years ago to know why the current hype is understandable.

“He was certainly a pretty special player,” Ferster recalled Monday. “He was pretty dynamic and skated pretty fluently and could really handle the puck. He’s a guy who when he was on the ice — even though he was on the back end — was a threat. His game has obviously taken off and got a lot better than when he was down here, but when the puck was on his stick it usually ended up in a better place. And when he jumped up into the play, the puck would find him.

“That’s what you remember. You want young defencemen to jump up into the play but they don’t always make things happen. When he was up there, something was going on.

“And he’s a very soft-spoken, one of those guys who really has his head on straight. A pretty humble guy.”

The Vancouver Canucks, Edmonton Oilers and New York Rangers will be front-runners when the wooing commences Wednesday and expect the Toronto Maple Leafs, Detroit Red Wings and Chicago Blackhawks to make their cases, too. If Schultz really wants to play closer to home, the Canucks can offer the right fit as being part of a veteran core without the pressure of being ’the’ guy.

There would be the carrot of possibly filling the No. 4 spot and getting ample power-play time — even if UFA blue-liner Sami Salo returns in a limited role — and landing Schultz would be especially attractive if the Canucks can move Keith Ballard’s contract. They could use the cap space and they need to get younger.

Marc-Andre Gragnani, 25, had one goal and three points in 14 games after being acquired from Buffalo for Alexander Sulzer at the trade deadline, but the restricted free agent wasn’t qualified before Monday’s deadline. He looked tentative in the offensive zone, lost in the defensive zone and didn’t play in the post-season.

A lack of overall puck movement and getting pucks through led to a paltry 3-for-21 playoff power-play performance by the Canucks. There is potential in Kevin Connauton, 22, who had 13 goals for the Chicago Wolves last season but he needs to improve his defensive awareness. And a home-grown UFA like Jason Garrison, 27, of the Florida Panthers isn’t going to come cheap after a franchise-record 16-goal season. That’s what makes Schultz so intriguing.

“It’s his vision. It’s his composure with the puck. It’s his puck skills,” said Wisconsin coach Mike Eaves. “And the one thing that’s just a gift is his shot. He has the innate ability to get that puck to the net to allow for rebounds, tip-ins and goals. He’s got what we call a smart shot.”

That’s why there’s so much interest. The Oilers can dangle being quarterback of a potentially explosive power play that includes Ryan Nugent-Hopkins, Taylor Hall and Jordan Eberle. That will either come with the pressure to perform or the understanding that the Oilers are still in a patient rebuild mode by opting for Nail Yakupov as the first overall draft pick Friday in lieu of trying to land a veteran blue-liner.

The Rangers can play the buddy card with Wisconsin alums Ryan McDonagh and Derek Stepan and the Maple Leafs can do the same with Jake Gardiner. The Wings can trot out the Nicklas Lidstrom and Brad Stuart voids and the Blackhawks could sell Schultz in that they’re not that far removed from returning to Stanley Cup contention.

Read more: Coveted NHL free agent Justin Schultz a (http://www.theprovince.com/Coveted+free+agent+Justin+Schultz+pretty+special+p layer/6838677/story.html#ixzz1yrIdOJMb)


Eh, it's the offseason. Speculating and keeping up with rumors makes it a little more fun and interesting, especially when you've been following the team for so long!

Schultz is just a complete player and has put up good stats wherever he has been.

Justin Schultz Highlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA62fsldQMU&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

Just giving you a hard time...so much speculation out there.

punkwax
06-25-2012, 06:02 PM
Eh, it's the offseason. Speculating and keeping up with rumors makes it a little more fun and interesting, especially when you've been following the team for so long!

Schultz is just a complete player and has put up good stats wherever he has been.

Justin Schultz Highlights - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GA62fsldQMU&feature=youtube_gdata_player)

I've enjoyed reading all the rumours you've posted so far. This is where I get my rumour fix lol

kristianhay
06-25-2012, 06:04 PM
^^

Haha I figured, but you never know.

Another exciting week upcoming if anything!


I've enjoyed reading all the rumours you've posted so far. This is where I get my rumour fix lol

Thanks dude! Good place to come and chat with fellow Canuck's fans that isn't CDC ha.

7seven
06-25-2012, 06:16 PM
Schultz would be good signing as a free asset, but not going to get too excited about him yet. Remember the last hot free agent NCAA defenseman that every team was after and all the media was proclaiming to be a great NHLer, ya Matt Gilroy.

DanHibiki
06-25-2012, 06:21 PM
FABIAN BRUUNSTROM OMGSSSZZZZZZZZZZZ

murd0c
06-25-2012, 06:23 PM
Look at Monster hes now Winnipeg's soon to be backup lol

Renthal
06-25-2012, 06:44 PM
@botchford: @santsational Canucks don’t want d. Salo is coming back

@botchford: @MarioMontega salo’s coming back. Is the word out?

@MarioMontega: @botchford any idea lenght term..

@botchford: @MarioMontega 1 yr


apparently salo is coming back for one more year

iwantaskyline
06-25-2012, 07:06 PM
Schultz would be good signing as a free asset, but not going to get too excited about him yet. Remember the last hot free agent NCAA defenseman that every team was after and all the media was proclaiming to be a great NHLer, ya Matt Gilroy.

Big difference is Gilroy is undrafted while Shultz went 43rd overall. People knew he was good long before he decides not to sign with Anaheim.

AzNightmare
06-25-2012, 07:17 PM
FABIAN BRUUNSTROM OMGSSSZZZZZZZZZZZ

lol. I was like :considered:...

Then he gets hattrick in his debut game. I'm like :yuno: wE MISSsed OUTT!!

But that was pretty much his highlight of his career so far... :fuckthatshit:

cliffhanger33
06-25-2012, 08:43 PM
didn't schultz grow up as a canucks fan too? :)

mb_
06-25-2012, 08:46 PM
:fuckyea:

CPE
06-25-2012, 10:22 PM
I know a lot of you guys follow @strombone1 on twitter (alleged Luongo account), but I thought I'd share some of his recent tweets because they are quite funny.

Sooooooo....... Does this JVR character play goal?
I fucking love shootouts!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! #EURO2012
Love love love Chelsea dagger more than @D_Booth7 loves "call me maybe" #favoritesong
Can someone help me out with the twitter. I'm kinda new at this. Twitter+Source= Fact? I knew I shoulda finished college!
Just out of curiosity.... Do they play "Chelsea Dagger" during Chicago Wolves games too? Nahhhhh never mind I'd rather not know
I think we need to take the time to recognize who the real winners are of the NHL award show....The people who didn't get to watch it #zzzzz

jeedee
06-25-2012, 10:22 PM
Ultimately his choices are to play for a Canadian team:

If Toronto:
- He gets to play with his buddy Gardiner
- Media pressured city
- "Guaranteed" a top 4 pairing

If Edmonton:
- "Guaranteed" a top 4 pairing
- On a young team with the "big 4"
- Shitty team still lolol

If Vancouver:
- Will only get a bottom pairing spot / 2nd pairing with Edler. Not guaranteed anything cause AV doesn't trust rookies and is a retard overall
- Gets to play for a winning team
- Gets to play in his home town

If he wants to play for a winning team, Vancouver

If he wants to play for a team that will give him top 4 minutes, Edmonton

If he wants to play with his buddy Gardiner, Toronto

spideyv2
06-25-2012, 10:45 PM
Lifting a cup with your home team would be a dream come true

b0unce. [?]
06-26-2012, 02:06 AM
didn't schultz grow up as a canucks fan too? :)

hopefully that's enough of a reason for him to want to come here :concentrate:

punkwax
06-26-2012, 05:52 AM
Removing blind homerism goggles and thinking hockey decision, I have still come to this conclusion:

If its between those 3 cities, how could he not choose Vancouver?

Toronto is a mess and regardless of the talent brewing in Edmonton, they can't keep those names there very long, they're in no position to make a run soon and the city SUCKS.

Canucks organization is in great shape right now and Schultz knows its also an awesome place to live. Unless a team offers a boatload more cash, you'd have to go full retard to choose Edmonton or Toronto over Van.

SkinnyPupp
06-26-2012, 06:08 AM
Removing blind homerism goggles and thinking hockey decision, I have still come to this conclusion:

If its between those 3 cities, how could he not choose Vancouver?

Toronto is a mess and regardless of the talent brewing in Edmonton, they can't keep those names there very long, they're in no position to make a run soon and the city SUCKS.

Canucks organization is in great shape right now and Schultz knows its also an awesome place to live. Unless a team offers a boatload more cash, you'd have to go full retard to choose Edmonton or Toronto over Van.
It depends on him. Some people are such fans of certain teams, they will go there no matter what. The fact that Luongo is actually considering Toronto is absolutely mind-blowing. If he thinks Vancouver is a circus, it's nothing compared to that city and organization.

It could also come down to play time. Everyone knows it's hard to get minutes as a rookie under AV, and the Canucks D is already deep. He is looking at top 6 AT BEST, with maybe some time on the PP occasionally. Even if he proves to be really good, he will have to swallow tons of pride to get any more ice time than that.

AWDTurboLuvr
06-26-2012, 06:25 AM
It depends on him. Some people are such fans of certain teams, they will go there no matter what. The fact that Luongo is actually considering Toronto is absolutely mind-blowing. If he thinks Vancouver is a circus, it's nothing compared to that city and organization.

It could also come down to play time. Everyone knows it's hard to get minutes as a rookie under AV, and the Canucks D is already deep. He is looking at top 6 AT BEST, with maybe some time on the PP occasionally. Even if he proves to be really good, he will have to swallow tons of pride to get any more ice time than that.

I agree. In Toronto and especially in Edmonton with the youth movement, he'll get tons of playing time and have a little more lee-way in making mistakes.

7seven
06-26-2012, 06:47 AM
Yea the one thing working against the Canucks' in the Schultz sweepstakes is likely the defensive depth here and that AV's track record with rookies/young players



“We've contacted his agents to express the Detroit Red Wings are interested in signing him to a contract,'' general manager Ken Holland told M-Live.com. “We think there's a tremendous opportunity in Detroit.''

“I like that he's 22 (soon), he skates well, he's close to being an NHL defenseman,'' Holland said. “We're prepared to give him the opportunity to be on our team.

“With the loss of Nicklas Lidstrom (retirement) and Brad Stuart (signed with San Jose), there's a tremendous opportunity. We're trying to rebuild on the fly. We think he would be a good fit.''



Schultz and Red Wings' top defense prospect Brendan Smith were teammates at Wisconsin for one season. The Red Wings expect Smith, who played 17 games in Detroit this past season, to be in their everyday lineup in 2012-13. Holland said he would have no qualms about having two rookie defensemen in his top six.

Opportunity, not money, will be the deciding factor in securing Schultz. The Red Wings are prepared to guarantee him a roster spot at the start of the season, something every team that pursues him will need to do.

Schultz's contract will be the same wherever he goes. He is restricted to a two-year, two-way entry-level deal with a base NHL salary of $925,000. His team must make a $3.8 million salary-cap commitment, however, due to potential bonuses, many of which are not realistically attainable.

His AHL salary would be $67,500. So it's clear why he wouldn't want to spend any time in the minors if he doesn't have to.


http://www.mlive.com/redwings/index.ssf/2012/06/red_wings_have_begun_their_pur.html



Neither the Toronto Maple Leafs and Ducks nor his agency, Newport, would discuss it, but heard Anaheim allowed Toronto a window to try and sign him at the draft (There would have been some draft-pick compensation in return). He wants to test free agency and passed.

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/opinion/2012/06/time-to-free-up-nhl-free-agency-30-thoughts.html

MR_BIGGS
06-26-2012, 07:17 AM
If it was based on hockey alone, I would want to play for Edmonton. This kid would get PP time quarterbacking from the point, he would get top 4 minutes and be playing with guys his age and could grow with them. Also, he's not going to get a long term contract, more so in the 3-5 year range so, he would want a team where he could showcase his talents. Those reasons alone, I would think Edmonton.

That being said, he could learn a lot about hockey playing for a successful veteran team like the Canucks. Put with AVs track record with younger players, would you want to play for him?

Maybe not qualifying Rome and the others was window dressing to show he could have a spot on the team. Who knows. It would be great to have a BC boy on the Canucks, especially a dman.

MR_BIGGS
06-26-2012, 07:32 AM
What are the chances, Burke makes an offer sheet to the Canucks for Cory? Burke has been on both sides of the coin. Given Gillis' and Burke's relationship, they may headline the next out door classic in a steel cage match...

mb_
06-26-2012, 07:49 AM
They already qualified him, not sure if that means he's safe from offer sheets

MR_BIGGS
06-26-2012, 08:00 AM
They already qualified him, not sure if that means he's safe from offer sheets

I think that just means Canucks have first dibs in negoitations.

Players who are no longer considered "entry-level" but do not qualify as unrestricted free agents become restricted free agents when their contracts expire.

The current team must extend a "qualifying offer" to a restricted free agent to retain negotiating rights to that player.

Players who earned less than $660,000 in the previous season must be offered 110 percent of last season's salary. Players making up to $1 million must be offered 105 percent. Players making over $1 million must be offered 100 percent.

If the qualifying offer is not made, the player becomes an unrestricted free agent.

If the player rejects a qualifying offer, he remains a restricted free agent.

If he doesn't sign before June 30, teams have a window of June 1 to 5 to make offer sheets. Can someone verify?

kristianhay
06-26-2012, 08:03 AM
^

Canucks will match any offer and the other GM will just look like an asshat.

7seven
06-26-2012, 08:36 AM
By qualifying Schneider, Canucks just prevent him from becoming a UFA now and retain his rights, teams are still allowed to offer sheet RFAs. I think there will a number of GMs tempted to throw an offer sheet at Schneider, young capable #1 goaltenders are a rare special commodity.

One thing that will be stopping GMs from offer sheeting players this year is no one wants to lose high 2013 draft picks. The 2013 draft is supposed to be the deepest high talent draft since the 2003 draft, with pretty much all scouts saying top end talent reaches into the 2nd round and solid talent into 3rd at least.

SkinnyPupp
06-26-2012, 09:08 AM
By qualifying Schneider, Canucks just prevent him from becoming a UFA now and retain his rights, teams are still allowed to offer sheet RFAs. I think there will a number of GMs tempted to throw an offer sheet at Schneider, young capable #1 goaltenders are a rare special commodity.

One thing that will be stopping GMs from offer sheeting players this year is no one wants to lose high 2013 draft picks. The 2013 draft is supposed to be the deepest high talent draft since the 2003 draft, with pretty much all scouts saying top end talent reaches into the 2nd round and solid talent into 3rd at least.
Yet somehow I think Calgary will still fuck up and make a shitty pick :fuckthatshit:

Expresso
06-26-2012, 09:23 AM
Yet somehow I think Calgary will still fuck up and make a shitty pick :fuckthatshit:

Its not like the Canucks are teaming with hot prospects!

Ronin
06-26-2012, 09:47 AM
Lots of rumors going around today with the Canucks. Hearing some pretty legit things about Ballard being traded and the Canucks pushing for Schultz.

murd0c
06-26-2012, 09:51 AM
That would be nice to move Ballard to make room. As well to free up cap space...

kristianhay
06-26-2012, 10:07 AM
Lots of rumors going around today with the Canucks. Hearing some pretty legit things about Ballard being traded and the Canucks pushing for Schultz.

Any links to the Ballard rumors? I haven't found anything.

I'd like to see:

Hamhuis - Bieksa
Edler - Schultz
Ballard - Tanev/Salo

Bigger news.

@Real_ESPNLeBrun says Panthers ownership has okayed taking on a salary like Roberto Luongo's.

Was just on 1040. Contract is not an issue there. Puts pressure on Burke as well.

MR_BIGGS
06-26-2012, 10:26 AM
A team looking to meet the cap floor may be interested in Ballard. As crazy as it sounds, a team may even trade for Thomas so they can have his salary on the books against the cap.

Me thinking out loud. While I know Burke has no intentions of moving Gardiner, imagine Gillis making an offer to send Luongo and Ballard to Toronto for Gardiner and some other pieces. That would help court Shultz to sign with the Canucks too. Our d would look a lot younger with that though.

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 10:44 AM
Hopefully the canucks sign schultz... there are too many good bc born players not playing for the canucks. Look at the habs, there's some pretty good local talent on that team.

AzNightmare
06-26-2012, 10:47 AM
Lots of rumors going around today with the Canucks. Hearing some pretty legit things about Ballard being traded and the Canucks pushing for Schultz.

Legit rumors are just as good as 98% done deals...

Rumors of any sort are still just rumors

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 10:50 AM
:suspicious: is Ballard a salary dump trade for schultz?

spideyv2
06-26-2012, 10:50 AM
@thescoreticker: Pavel Bure has been elected
into Hockey Hall of Fame

Expresso
06-26-2012, 10:52 AM
@thescoreticker: Pavel Bure has been elected
into Hockey Hall of Fame

About damn time.

Tim Budong
06-26-2012, 10:57 AM
Pavel Bure Top 10 - YouTube

7seven
06-26-2012, 11:00 AM
Larionov being added to the HHOF selection committee I think really helped Pavel getting in sooner than later.

Verdasco
06-26-2012, 11:06 AM
about fucking t ime bure gets in.

didn't neil yakupov said he was the next bure? lol

:fuckthatshit:

kwy
06-26-2012, 11:07 AM
:suspicious: is Ballard a salary dump trade for schultz?

Wouldn't Schultz only be eligible for like 900k his first year? Ballard is somewhere around 4.25M. Canucks already dumped Rome, Ebbet, and a few others. I think they'd have room for Schultz regardless of whether Ballard leaves or not.

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 11:09 AM
Sakic Shannahan Bure Oates Fleury / Lindros?
http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/feature/?id=53192

Yes, Mats Sundin was a canuck!

UFO
06-26-2012, 11:09 AM
About damn time.

+1. Wish the Canucks would get off their high horse and put him up in the ring of honour at the very least. He's the only 'real' Canuck in the hall of fame

7seven
06-26-2012, 11:10 AM
Wouldn't Schultz only be eligible for like 900k his first year? Ballard is somewhere around 4.25M. Canucks already dumped Rome, Ebbet, and a few others. I think they'd have room for Schultz regardless of whether Ballard leaves or not.

No, already covered here http://www.revscene.net/forums/669494-official-2012-2013-canucks-nhl-thread-28.html#post7959098

Team signing him needs to allocate $3.8 million in cap space to account for bonuses.

Ronin
06-26-2012, 11:10 AM
Any links to the Ballard rumors? I haven't found anything.

Only what I hear from Canucks bloggers, media and others like folks that work at Rogers or for the Canucks through our chat channels.

7seven
06-26-2012, 11:11 AM
Sakic, Sundin, Oates, Bure are the 4 players in to the HHOF.

Sundin I think is a joke going in as a 1st ballot HOF, but not surprised since Quinn and Burke are on the selection committee. I've heard that Quinn was in part keeping Bure out for so long, due to some bitterness still between them.

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 11:12 AM
+1. Wish the Canucks would get off their high horse and put him up in the ring of honour at the very least. He's the only 'real' Canuck in the hall of fame

Canucks already got off their high horse, its just Bure now. He doesnt want to be reminded of hockey maybe one day....


Sakic, Sundin, Oates, Bure are the 4 players in to the HHOF.

Sundin I think is a joke going in as a 1st ballot HOF, but not surprised since Quinn and Burke are on the selection committee. I've heard that Quinn was in part keeping Bure out for so long, due to some bitterness still between them.

Bure was the greatest thing happened to this franchise anyways, not linden, not 94 cup run, not 2012 cup run or the sedins/ luongo. All these new prospects growing up to be a fan of bure (yakupov, schenn bros)

hotshot1
06-26-2012, 11:15 AM
WTF, imo Sundin's not worthy of a 1st ballot. Although he's been lights out in international competitions, he's got no cup and no individual awards.

Sakic's a no brainer 1st ballot. I'm glad Oates and Bure finally got in, I think they waited long enough. For the last spot, I would have gone with Shanahan or Lindros over Sundin.

kristianhay
06-26-2012, 11:17 AM
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Clarifying comments I made on @TEAM1040. Yes, Dale Tallon has full support from above to try and make Luongo trade. But ... (Con't)

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
But Tallon would still need to circle back to ownership for final green light if he can ever make a deal with Vancouver... Big contract

More details.

b0unce. [?]
06-26-2012, 11:23 AM
Oates should be in the HOF

punkwax
06-26-2012, 11:35 AM
Good for Pavel! He deserves it. Now MG has to do something.. Hopefully more than put him in the ring of honour. Bure turned a lot of Vancouverites into hockey fans and the franchise wouldn't be where it is today without that influence.

SumAznGuy
06-26-2012, 11:36 AM
WTF, imo Sundin's not worthy of a 1st ballot. Although he's been lights out in international competitions, he's got no cup and no individual awards.

Sakic's a no brainer 1st ballot. I'm glad Oates and Bure finally got in, I think they waited long enough. For the last spot, I would have gone with Shanahan or Lindros over Sundin.

Keep in mind, this is the Hockey Hall of Fame and not the NHL Hall of Fame.
As a hockey player, Sundin has an olympic gold medal and other accomplishments.

jeedee
06-26-2012, 11:44 AM
Its not like the Canucks are teaming with hot prospects!

You can't expectthe Canucks to get "hot prospects" when they pick 26th every year...

pure.life
06-26-2012, 12:00 PM
Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
Clarifying comments I made on @TEAM1040. Yes, Dale Tallon has full support from above to try and make Luongo trade. But ... (Con't)

Pierre LeBrun ‏@Real_ESPNLeBrun
But Tallon would still need to circle back to ownership for final green light if he can ever make a deal with Vancouver... Big contract

More details.


Seeing that Luongo may possibly be heading to Florida, in another Canucks and Florida trade, I'm curious to know if there is a team in the league the Canucks have never made a trade with?

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 12:15 PM
both are RFA, could versteeg kulikov be in play but FLA doesnt want to part with bjustad/Gudbranson? Heard kulikov was one of the players could have gotten for hodgson

:suspicious:

b0unce. [?]
06-26-2012, 12:21 PM
does bergenheim still play in fla? if so, i want him.

kristianhay
06-26-2012, 12:26 PM
both are RFA, could versteeg kulikov be in play but FLA doesnt want to part with bjustad/Gudbranson? Heard kulikov was one of the players could have gotten for hodgson

:suspicious:

You'd have to think that the Canucks want Huberdeau or Bjugstad. Personally, I'd love to see Bjugstad here. Kids a beast. 6"5, 215lbs.

Highlights: Nick Bjugstad, Gopher Hockey 2011 - YouTube

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 12:27 PM
^ 3rd overall pick huberdeau was such a beast during the memorial cup

bergenheim signed to a 2.75 cap hit until 14/15, would like to gamble with him over mayray

NHL (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/teams/players/bio/?id=3156)

kristianhay
06-26-2012, 12:30 PM
Huberdeau is definitely sick, it's just going to be a while until he's an impact player in the NHL. Needs to fill out.

Jason Botchford ‏@botchford
At least luongo won't have to worry about his NTC for a while, if Canucks asking for Bjugstad-plus-plus and Jake Gardiner-plus-plus

Gillis is asking too much if it's Bjugstad-plus-plus I think. Bjugstad-plus is reasonable.

Harvey Specter
06-26-2012, 02:05 PM
Bure finally gets his dues.

Not really racist!
06-26-2012, 02:31 PM
@botchford: @santsational Canucks don’t want d. Salo is coming back

@botchford: @MarioMontega salo’s coming back. Is the word out?

@MarioMontega: @botchford any idea lenght term..

@botchford: @MarioMontega 1 yr

Not sure if thats been posted yet. :jizz:

dreaming.....be gonee ballardd

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Tanev-Schultz
Salo

btw, rumor was kesler str8 up for staal...debatable if staal isnt an ufa after next season but then he wouldn't have been traded anyways :/

Tim Budong
06-26-2012, 02:32 PM
Bure finally gets his dues.

now its time for Bure to embrace it
I remember his interview with Snet and Alyonka last year, the man was so uninterested in anything buy his BJJ
haha

kwy
06-26-2012, 02:39 PM
Not sure if thats been posted yet. :jizz:

dreaming.....be gonee ballardd

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Tanev-Schultz
Salo

btw, rumor was kesler str8 up for staal...debatable if staal isnt an ufa after next season but then he wouldn't have been traded anyways :/

The only Staal I'd take for Kes is named Eric..

JesseBlue
06-26-2012, 03:25 PM
i don't think there is an upgrade from kes to staal...i'd rather keep kes as we already saw what he can give...

if it was kes to zetts...then i'd think about it more...

as for the d-core of:
Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Garrison
Tanev-Schultz

i don't think people are shaking their boots on this one...
if you can get garrison for less than hamhuis/bieksa...i'd be okay with that..any more then sorry...no thanks...

Renthal
06-26-2012, 03:27 PM
shane doan to test free agency… very interesting...

cliffhanger33
06-26-2012, 03:32 PM
ya shane doan FA maybe

adater ‏@adater
Phoenix GM Don Maloney says Shane Doan will test free agent market. Potential teams will get good leader and officiating conspiracy buff


Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions
Shane Doan is an interesting UFA..would not be surprised if #Flames made a pitch now that he is testing Free Agency out.

Hondaracer
06-26-2012, 04:09 PM
DWD

Dont Want Doan

Vansterdam
06-26-2012, 04:51 PM
props to sakic and bure

van19
06-26-2012, 05:00 PM
Allan Walsh ‏@walsha
PA Parenteau will become an unrestricted free agent on July 1.

Parenteau would be a great fit on our 2nd line feeding Kesler and Booth.

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 05:15 PM
http://youtu.be/Bddc8tOwwvA

ill be there for that night #10

rsx
06-26-2012, 05:29 PM
wouldn't mind Doan, tough, veteran with a scoring touch

cliffhanger33
06-26-2012, 05:33 PM
doubt we will get doan

cliffhanger33
06-26-2012, 05:35 PM
Kruegerr as new oilers coach? not bad

@TSNBobMcKenzie: Hearing EDM will announce its new coach as early as tomorrow and as has been speculated for weeks now, it's expected to be Ralph Kruegerr.

pastarocket
06-26-2012, 06:31 PM
Do you think the Canucks should retire Bure's jersey?

I think management should seriously consider retiring no. 10 in the rafters of Rogers Arena. Pavel is one of the most exciting players in the Canucks history. -one of the NHL's most offensively skilled players who brought fans out of their seats. -drafted as a Canuck.

His days as a Canuck were his best years. Retire the Russian Rocket!

Hondaracer
06-26-2012, 06:37 PM
There are enough players who didnt lead the franchise anywhere in the rafters as it is, it makes the Canucks look like a joke

Vansterdam
06-26-2012, 06:38 PM
TEAM 1040: Pat Quinn Interview -- Pavel Bure Should Have His Jersey Retired. (June 26, 2012) - YouTube (http://youtu.be/Bddc8tOwwvA)

ill be there for that night #10

leggoooooooo

JesseBlue
06-26-2012, 06:40 PM
DWD

Dont Want Doan
i would love doan to be on the team...he has shown his value in the playoffs

Mike Oxbig
06-26-2012, 06:57 PM
Do you think the Canucks should retire Bure's jersey?

I think management should seriously consider retiring no. 10 in the rafters of Rogers Arena. Pavel is one of the most exciting players in the Canucks history. -one of the NHL's most offensively skilled players who brought fans out of their seats. -drafted as a Canuck.

His days as a Canuck were his best years. Retire the Russian Rocket!

LOL retiring smyl and linden... who are they? Management needs to put ego aside and retire bure... it will help generate income too.

kids 10 yrs later "who's pavel bure? brb youtube... OH SHIT HES MY FAVOURITE PLAYER OF ALL TIME AND I WASNT EVEN BORN YET"

MR_BIGGS
06-26-2012, 08:27 PM
Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie

Some NHL teams believe Schultz is destined to end up with his home province Canucks. We should know more in next few days if not sooner.
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:victory:????

spideyv2
06-26-2012, 08:32 PM
July 1st couldn't come soon enough. If we sign Schultz and Garrison :sweetjesus:

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Schultz
Garrison-Tanev

too solid

jeedee
06-26-2012, 08:34 PM
HE'S COMING HOME, HE'S COMING HOME

TELL THE WORLD HE'S COMING HOME

...don't let me down Schultz

b0unce. [?]
06-26-2012, 08:46 PM
Personally I don't like Doan, however if he was willing to sign here for much cheaper, I'd be ok with that. I'm not down with paying him 4.5.

RiceIntegraRS
06-26-2012, 08:55 PM
I actually do like Doan, he brings alot to the table. But he is on the decline and hes 35. So i would assume he would be commanding less than the 4.5Mil he was making in seasons past. But im pretty sure theres a team dumb enough to offer him more.