[spideyv2]

Imagine a Todd Bertuzzi in his prime playing in our current top 6

Sedin-Sedin-Bertuzzi/Burrows
Booth-Kesler-Burrows/Bertuzzi

[rsx]

While we're at it...

Mogilny Kesler Bure

[UFO]

^no thanks. 2 guys who do not like to pass + 1 guy who cannot pass, I'll pass (pun intended)

[Mike Oxbig]

2 guys who dont like to pass but can finish on their own, im down XD

[AzNightmare]

Pointless topic. And imagine Nazzy in prime in the third line because our first two lines are already too stacked.
:suspicious:

[murd0c]

Fuck we need some hockey news cause this talk is getting pathetic :failed:

[SkinnyPupp]

Booth-Kesler-Bertuzzi

Wow a line of three puck-hogs, that would work great!

[kristianhay]

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620
Second team to offer Shane Doan a contract is the San Jose Sharks

More Doan news.

[dinamix]

BURE-SEDIN-SEDIN > end thread

[winson604]

BURE-SEDIN-SEDIN > end thread

I don't think Bure's game will fit well with the slow cycle play of the Sedins. I rather have Bure play with Nassy or Kes or something. Bert in his prime will probably fit well with the Sedins imo.

[cliffhanger33]

Heard Doan is most likely gna choose SJ or Detroit if anything. Seems to be a strong "mutual interest" between Doan and SJ or Detroit, according to Doan's agent.

[EmperorIS]

Everyone hates Canucks, no one wants to sign with us. We haven't had a big signing since Mats Sundin

[6thGear.]

I miss Bert....

[GrapeDrink]

Heard Doan is most likely gna choose SJ or Detroit if anything. Seems to be a strong "mutual interest" between Doan and SJ or Detroit, according to Doan's agent.

lol his agent said there was strong mutual interest with like half the league lol, I remember I got really hyped he said that about SJ then he I saw the other like 10 team name drops where he says exactly the same thing.

[spideyv2]

Wow a line of three puck-hogs, that would work great!

Yeah, dude, and what AV has going on now works so much better!!!

Booth-Kesler-Raymond

[punkwax]

Heard Doan is most likely gna choose SJ or Detroit if anything. Seems to be a strong "mutual interest" between Doan and SJ or Detroit, according to Doan's agent.

I've also heard Pittsburgh being mentioned a lot. They lost the Parise sweepstakes, and as much as I'm a Canucks fan, if it's between those 2 teams and I'm Doan - it would be real tough to turn down an opportunity to play with Crosby. Regardless if my wife is from Kamloops.

And Bert in his prime with Sedins = :jizz:

[kristianhay]

Heard Doan is most likely gna choose SJ or Detroit if anything. Seems to be a strong "mutual interest" between Doan and SJ or Detroit, according to Doan's agent.

If you've been following the fiasco, every city is pretty much reporting the same thing. Vancouver + Doan's agent have spoken and Vancouver is very much in the mix for Doan and had positive talks, SJS + Doan's agent have spoken and SJS is in the mix and the team and player have mutual interests, so on and so forth. I haven't heard anything about him most likely choosing anything - if you're going off of that, he's most likely to stay with Phoenix if everything gets sorted because that's where he wants to play, where his family is settled, etc. Just my 2c.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=txmxd-HB7vc&feature=plcp

This is a pretty rad clip in terms of seeing the fan reactions and such. It's kind of funny to see everyone rising and the towls start spinning in slow motion. Can't wait for the hockey season to resume :fullofwin:

[cliffhanger33]

I agree. If you want a most probable team hes gna be in, it would be where he is right now in Phoenix. But dam it would be a Canucks fan's wet dreams if he came over here

[Gumby]

My dad trolled me yesterday, saying that we traded Luongo for Bolland. :rukidding:

[spoon.ek9]

Fuck we need some hockey news cause this talk is getting pathetic :failed:

i keep coming in here thinking there's some real news to read about :lol

[kwy]

Doan's agent is pretty much saying every damn team is in the mix. What we do know is that he'd rather stay in phx..but the question is whether there will be a phx team anymore.

[murd0c]

i keep coming in here thinking there's some real news to read about :lol

Same with me, I'm hoping for Doan news and I come in to see what a awesome like of Gretzky, Crosby and Lindros would be in their prime :suspicious:

[spideyv2]

This is Canucks talk, I don't see the issue with talking about players who played for us? If you're truly looking for up to date rumors, go to hfboards or follow news1130 sports on twitter.

[7seven]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Gragnani agrees to 2 way contract with Carolina.

As a Sabres and Nucks fan, I feel very sorry for Canes fans now and Cam Ward, if he sticks with the Canes

[will068]

^no thanks. 2 guys who do not like to pass + 1 guy who cannot pass, I'll pass (pun intended)

The problem with Bure and Mogilny when Alex was newly acquired was that when they are both in the same line, they were passing too much to each other. Almost as if they didn't want to step on each others toes.

"You finish, no you finish, no you finish..."

You would see a bit of 2 on 1's where they would just overpass and would not

[spideyv2]

Edit - repost lol

GL Grags

[spoon.ek9]

This is Canucks talk, I don't see the issue with talking about players who played for us? If you're truly looking for up to date rumors, go to hfboards or follow news1130 sports on twitter.

it wasn't a stab at you man, i just think most of us want to read about legit signings and completed trades rather than rumours and fantasy ;)

[murd0c]

Hockey news YAY

So Doan has decided to extend his personal deadline to leave Phoenix until July16th...

[spideyv2]

Imagine a Doan in his prime playing with the Sedins...



:troll:

[EmperorIS]

Imagine Optimus Prime in his Prime playing with the Prime evils

[trip]

thats it... im not checking back on this thread for a week

[cliffhanger33]

zzzzzz hope smth big happens soon

Doan's leadership is what the canucks need

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2012/07/11/canucks-will-need-a-lot-of-help-to-woo-shane-doan/

[Kaolinite]

.

[bobbinka]

no kes in the pic?

[murd0c]

Too bad Ohlund isn't in the background waving back

[EmperorIS]

A Change of Seasons - Toronto Maple Leafs 2011-2012 Season - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&NR=1&v=mJd9-rmGKxY)

pretty cool video on the leaf's 2011-2012 Season

[murd0c]

Watched the first minute and got bored, I don't know how someone could watch nothing but Leafs for 14mins :troll:

[AzNightmare]

Meh, don't care much for the team.
Nice video with good music. I miss hockey :(

[noots]

More proof that we need Shane Doan...on Mantracker

Mantracker "Shane and Brook - YouTube

[murd0c]

The true team player and heart you are born with. It's a great episode and really shows the type of person he is.

[kwy]

That girl chef is smokin

[civicyvr]

As a Sabres and Nucks fan, I feel very sorry for Canes fans now and Cam Ward, if he sticks with the Canes

Haha, yep. Hope Grags plays better then what we saw when he was here. At least you get to watch Hodgie in a more prominent role now.

Doan do want.

[TPMarko]

Mikael Samuelsson pins blame on Burrows | The Province (http://blogs.theprovince.com/2012/07/12/mikael-samuelsson-pins-blame-on-burrows/)

samuelsson takes a stab at canucks management and burrows. always liked him as a canuck and in some ways wished he was still on the team so not sure how i feel about these comments.

[sonick]

Well, Sammy was never one to mince words.

[Eastwood]

Mikael Samuelsson pins blame on Burrows | The Province (http://blogs.theprovince.com/2012/07/12/mikael-samuelsson-pins-blame-on-burrows/)

samuelsson takes a stab at canucks management and burrows. always liked him as a canuck and in some ways wished he was still on the team so not sure how i feel about these comments.
To be honest the reporter might have taken the burrows quote out of context, which it sounds like he did. Also doesn't help that it is showing a picture of him yelling.

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Top-10 Sami Salo Moments | CanucksArmy (http://canucksarmy.com/2012/7/5/top-10-sami-salo-moments)

[SkinnyPupp]

TBH some of the things the Canucks management does kind of makes me embarrassed as a fan, and ashamed for the team. But I try to just ignore it and cheer the team.

[kristianhay]

Update: John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620
The third team to offer Coyotes Captain Shane Doan a contract following LA and San Jose is the Vancouver Canucks!

Dope news, hope it turns out well.

[AzNightmare]

Quote about burrows is ridiculous.
Game 2 gwg in overtime. :fuckthatshit:

If anything, blame it on Rome's big hit.
I bet that woke up the sleeping bears more than any finger biting did.

[cliffhanger33]

Per Phoenix Biz Journal:

"The city of Glendale has disqualified a ballot measure aimed at blocking a proposed sales tax increase. Glendale disqualified the measure Wednesday, arguing ballot and petition language was misleading to voters. In addition, the city said there were other technical problems with the ballot measure and its campaign committee. Keeping the sales tax measure off the November ballot could be a boost to the city’s 20-year deal with prospective Phoenix Coyotes buyer Greg Jamison."

I think Doan will stay in Phoenix.

[spideyv2]

Samuelsson sounds like a butthurt clown.
BRB, the Rome hit had NOTHING to do with the Bruins turn around

[highfive]

Samuelsson sounds like a butthurt clown.
BRB, the Rome hit had NOTHING to do with the Bruins turn around

Exactly. The Canucks were not lighting up the Bruins in GM 1 and 2. GM 1 was 1-0, GM 2 was 2-1 OT?

[JKam]

Dope news, hope it turns out well.

who is this John Gambardo guy?

[kristianhay]

^

Sports radio host in Phoenix.

[7seven]

As expected, Teemu officially signs 1 yr deal $4.5 mil with Ducks

how he decided to come back Teemu Selanne Decides on His Future Video - NHL VideoCenter - Anaheim Ducks (http://video.ducks.nhl.com/videocenter/console?id=183311&lang=en)

[MR_BIGGS]

This thread sucks. We really need some hockey news to debate or something.

Where are all the poolies at? People are probably getting ready for their draft in August? I'm in a keeper league where its pretty tough to go from the basement to the top. I'm essentially doing a build. I've drafted the last two calder winners along with Strome. I'm going to try and load up on draft picks for 2013. The feeling from a lot of well respected scouts is that 2013 draft is as deep or deeper than the 2003 draft. Take a look at that draft year. We got Kesler that year I think.

What value could I get if I trade Patrick Kane?

[spideyv2]

This thread sucks. We really need some hockey news to debate or something.

Yeah man! It's not like we're in the middle of july, right?

[AzNightmare]

For some reason, I get really annoyed when people talk about pool drafts in here...
Its like how so many people started talking about Jerseys and then it spawned its own thread...
Which was the best idea ever.

:thumbsup:

[Gilgamesh]

This thread sucks. We really need some hockey news to debate or something.

Where are all the poolies at? People are probably getting ready for their draft in August? I'm in a keeper league where its pretty tough to go from the basement to the top. I'm essentially doing a build. I've drafted the last two calder winners along with Strome. I'm going to try and load up on draft picks for 2013. The feeling from a lot of well respected scouts is that 2013 draft is as deep or deeper than the 2003 draft. Take a look at that draft year. We got Kesler that year I think.

What value could I get if I trade Patrick Kane?

Yeah, the 2013 draft is stacked. Mackinnon and Shinkaruk look like point producers (not including Jones because d-men are unpredictable for pt production). PKane is over-rated in pools because all he brings is assists and he's a rw/c. He may play centre for the second line like he did last year so trading him may be a good idea. I'd probably trade him at the deadline for a 2013 first rounder + more depending on how your league perceives his value.

[Vansterdam]

ABOUT 99 MORE DAYS TILL HOCKEY SEASON

[MR_BIGGS]

For some reason, I get really annoyed when people talk about pool drafts in here...
Its like how so many people started talking about Jerseys and then it spawned its own thread...
Which was the best idea ever.

:thumbsup:

I agree with you, but have you seen the last several pages of this thread? People are talking about what it would be like if Bure played with the sedins in his prime...:rukidding:

I'm just trying to get discussion going. But I get the hint, and if there was a need a new pool thread would be created.

[411ken]

I think there s hudve been an "off season Canucks thread" or something. Then Jus have the real after during preseason lol

[murd0c]

The worst part is the habbit of clicking on this thread when someone makes a new comment. Fucken addiction I tell ya:facepalm:

[Ronin]

Mikael Samuelsson pins blame on Burrows | The Province (http://blogs.theprovince.com/2012/07/12/mikael-samuelsson-pins-blame-on-burrows/)

samuelsson takes a stab at canucks management and burrows. always liked him as a canuck and in some ways wished he was still on the team so not sure how i feel about these comments.

LOL...nah, that's just Sammy being Sammy. The guy doesn't know how to bullshit. He speaks his mind and...is anything he's saying particularly wrong?

[sonick]

Way to get our hopes up: Shea Weber could be a Canuck after Wild deals for Parise, Suter (http://www.theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-hockey/Wild+deals+Parise+Suter+could+drive+Shea+Weber+Can ucks/6884956/story.html)

[Mike Oxbig]

if weber were to sign in vancouver his contract would be something like

100 million 13 yrs - like suter/parise and the rest of the front loader contracts (crosby, quick, staal)

[RiceIntegraRS]

In a perfect world Nashville tanks this year and they know for sure Weber wont re-sign with them. The Canucks knowing this will offer Nashville a nice little package of picks and players for Weber. The package will be better than what other teams will offer Nashville because teams wont give up too much for a "rental player". Thats if we know for sure that Weber will re-sign with us and no other team.

Wishful thinking........

[murd0c]

In a perfect world Nashville tanks this year and they know for sure Weber wont re-sign with them. The Canucks knowing this will offer Nashville a nice little package of picks and players for Weber. The package will be better than what other teams will offer Nashville because teams wont give up too much for a "rental player". Thats if we know for sure that Weber will re-sign with us and no other team.

Wishful thinking........

What do the Canucks have to give up that Nashville would want? I can't think of anyone and there are a whole lot more teams out there with a lot more to give.

[spideyv2]

What do the Canucks have to give up that Nashville would want? I can't think of anyone and there are a whole lot more teams out there with a lot more to give.

Edler or kesler +

[murd0c]

and I would be happy if we gave either up to get Weber, Don't think they would take Edler tho with only 1 yr left on his contract.

[PornMaster]

What do the Canucks have to give up that Nashville would want? I can't think of anyone and there are a whole lot more teams out there with a lot more to give.

MASON RAYMOND :fullofwin:

[murd0c]

More like Kesler, Jenson and a 1st round pick:considered:

[Ronin]

While that's a fair trade, that would put a huge hole down the middle. Strong centers in the top 2 or 3 lines has been essential to the last...oh...10 Stanley Cup winning teams?

[411ken]

If we are able to snag Weber and sign him up long term.. I think his jersey could be one of the biggest seller lol..

I'd be the first few in line that's for sure haha

Weber- Hamhuis
Bieksa-Garrison

as top 4.:fullofwin:

[jeedee]

More like Kesler, Jenson and a 1st round pick:considered:

No way I'd trade Kesler. It leaves a big hole in the middle for the roster and would make my Kesler jerseys useless :lol

I'd say something like:

Edler, Roster player [Booth/Hansen etc], Prospect [Jensen/Gaunce], 1st rounder for Weber

--

In the end, I think the best route would be for MG to offersheet Weber for 1 year, 7.8M.

If Nashville matches, they virtually lose him for nothing when Weber hits free agency.

If Nashville doesn't, we give up Two first-round picks and a second- and third-round pick.

No point in giving up a load of assets if MG can basically get him for free next free agency [if he makes it that far]. The best case scenario would be like the Jordan Staal situation. If Weber actually only wanted to play for Vancouver, Poile would have to make a hockey deal with Vancouver like how Staal wanted to only play for Carolina with Eric.

[murd0c]

So looking at WSOP day 3 results Lu is ranked 178 right now. What I don't get is why does it show hes American from FL :suspicious:

Tournament Chipcounts | Official World Series of Poker Online (http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?rr=5&grid=887&tid=12161&dayof=2560)

[b0unce. [?]]

MG isn't going to give up Edler.

[Ronin]

Bjugstad To Return For Junior Season - GOPHERSPORTS.COM - The Official Athletic Site of the Minnesota Gophers (http://www.gophersports.com/sports/m-hockey/spec-rel/071212aaa.html)

Puck Daddy had this as "Bjugstad back to Minnesota" and I almost pooped myself. WTF how did Minnesota manage to attract all these players with their history of mediocrity.

[murd0c]

Hopefully that will get the Lu deal moving.

[Ronin]

Doesn't matter. Bjugstad needs another year or two of development. Gillis knows this...he just wants to stock the farm. It doesn't matter Bjugstad plays in the NHL next year or not.

Actually, the Panthers might be more inclined to trade him now that they know he won't be on their roster for at least another year but Lu would help them immediately.

[Gilgamesh]

Yeah... I don't think Tallon's going to trade Bjustad. He wants to see him play in the nhl first. Getting Quinton Howden is more realistic. He's a good 2nd/3rd liner.

[BlackZRoadster]

So looking at WSOP day 3 results Lu is ranked 178 right now. What I don't get is why does it show hes American from FL :suspicious:

Tournament Chipcounts | Official World Series of Poker Online (http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?rr=5&grid=887&tid=12161&dayof=2560)

I can't find Lu... Can see his brother Fabio though

[sliq]

^192

[spideyv2]

Bjugstad's gonna be a beast. Get er done MG!!!!

[dbaz]

So looking at WSOP day 3 results Lu is ranked 178 right now. What I don't get is why does it show hes American from FL :suspicious:

Tournament Chipcounts | Official World Series of Poker Online (http://www.wsop.com/tournaments/chipcounts.asp?rr=5&grid=887&tid=12161&dayof=2560)

taxes. also thats where he resides and is a us resident now i believe

[7seven]

taxes. also thats where he resides and is a us resident now i believe

Yea it goes by where the player is a resident of. Lu's main residence has been in Florida since 1999 or 2000.

[Grandmaster TSE]

down to 639 now

[tubbyboi]

down to 639 now


Trade talks must be heating up, that is why he's doing bad. Trade must be coming within the next couple of hours. e3





:troll:

[hotjoint]

Paulina Gretzky Will Feature in Adam Sandler's Grown Ups 2 According to Twitter | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1254811-paulina-gretzky-will-feature-in-adam-sandlers-grown-ups-2-according-to-twitter)

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/487/441/d623634acae611e1be6a12313820455d_7_original.jpg?13 42022243

[Hondaracer]

Either Paulina got a tit job or it's some kind of push up bikini

[dinamix]

down to 639 now

money bubble is 666 players. Lou can double his 10 grand...lol...go Luuuu!

[Gumby]

Either Paulina got a tit job or it's some kind of push up bikini
Yeah I was gonna say, she's looks stacked!

[murd0c]

That's pretty impressive Lu made it to day 4 of the WSOP

[dinamix]

That's pretty impressive Lu made it to day 4 of the WSOP

yup.there were over 7000 players to the start the tournament.

[highfive]

Yeah I was gonna say, she's looks stacked!

haha just imagine her going in for a boob job...the doctor suggests her to go for this "size".

After the surgery, she looks at them and goes wow these look great now.

The doctor goes, I guess you can call them the Great Ones.....:troll:

[spideyv2]

Paulina Gretzky Will Feature in Adam Sandler's Grown Ups 2 According to Twitter | Bleacher Report (http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1254811-paulina-gretzky-will-feature-in-adam-sandlers-grown-ups-2-according-to-twitter)

http://cdn.bleacherreport.net/images_root/article/media_slots/photos/000/487/441/d623634acae611e1be6a12313820455d_7_original.jpg?13 42022243

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg626/PepperUrAngus/Funny%20Pictures/hnnng.gif

FuuuuuuuuuuuuuuARKK
I'm in the midst of a 30 day no fap challenge. Please spoiler this.

[kristianhay]

Christ, major overpayment for a will-be 36 year old player. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out - Gillis probably offered something like 4.9/5ish million for 2 years.

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040
Per many tweets: Shane Doan has been offered a 4 year deal worth more than 30 million by an Eastern Conference team

[murd0c]

Christ, major overpayment for a will-be 36 year old player. It will be very interesting to see how this pans out - Gillis probably offered something like 4.9/5ish million for 2 years.

:okay::QQ: Prob the pens :okay:

[hotjoint]

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg626/PepperUrAngus/Funny%20Pictures/hnnng.gif

FuuuuuuuuuuuuuuARKK
I'm in the midst of a 30 day no fap challenge. Please spoiler this.

Part of the challenge is to be able to see shit like that and not fap, therefore no spoiler needed. :fullofwin:

[7seven]

John Gambadoro ‏@Gambo620
NHL source just confirmed to me that an Eastern Conference team has offered Coyotes Captain Shane Doan a 4-year deal worth more than 30 mill

https://twitter.com/Gambo620/status/223841139659259905

WTF if true, $7.5 at least cap hit for Doan, no way I'd touch that especially given his age

[spideyv2]

LOLOL 7.5 caphit for a 36 year old

sounds like a Glen Sather move

[7seven]

I'm thinking Sather or Holmgren.......but as a Sabres fan, I'm also afraid it could be Pegula forcing Reiger to make the offer, Pegula seriously has way too much money and this is up his alley, I think he's the wealthiest owner in the NHL, he's even funding the building of a new arena/complex for the Sabres to practice in as well as one at Penn State.

[kristianhay]

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
Goalie Eddie Lack has 2 days to let the #Canucks know if he will accept their qualifying offer.

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
If Lack does not accept, he could go to training camp without a contract.

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
Also rumblings Lack could play in his native Sweden next year as well.

Do not want to lose Lack.

[pure.life]

http://i1247.photobucket.com/albums/gg626/PepperUrAngus/Funny%20Pictures/hnnng.gif

FuuuuuuuuuuuuuuARKK
I'm in the midst of a 30 day no fap challenge. Please spoiler this.

Part of the challenge is to be able to see shit like that and not fap, therefore no spoiler needed. :fullofwin:

Stay away from the beach:alone:

[murd0c]

So Kyle Wellwood signed a 1 year 1.6mill deal with the Jets. Good to see him back in the peg

[highfive]

Apparently Luongo is out of the WSOP.

Maybe we would get some news over the weekend or next week.

[murd0c]

we won almost 20k pretty darn awesome

[Ronin]

LOL fuck off $7.5+ for Doan. I was thinking $6m was already stupid but with the cap going up, sure, whatever. $6m x 2-3 years. Fuck off $30m. Who's that stupid? Sather? Garth Snow?

[Ronin]

Stay away from the beach:alone:

...you fap at the beach?

[AzNightmare]

damn... wtf. At this rate, we're never going to go for another good cup run until another bunch of years, when we develop some noobie as a top forward (hopefully Sedin's haven't become too old and declined by then).

I just don't see Canucks being able to get that impact player we're missing without overpaying ridiculously and shooting ourselves in the foot. No one's going to give us one for Luongo (we're probably just going to get decent prospects instead), and it's impossible to get players over here when other MG's are offering so much money.

[Mike Oxbig]

luongo++ can probably get us vincent lecavelier but cap hit is too high

[Hondaracer]

damn... wtf. At this rate, we're never going to go for another good cup run until another bunch of years, when we develop some noobie as a top forward (hopefully Sedin's haven't become too old and declined by then).

I just don't see Canucks being able to get that impact player we're missing without overpaying ridiculously and shooting ourselves in the foot. No one's going to give us one for Luongo (we're probably just going to get decent prospects instead), and it's impossible to get players over here when other MG's are offering so much money.

unless the Sedins can change the way they play, our window is already closed.

[spideyv2]

Sedins are great players, but they don't have the battle level it takes to win

inb4 a bunch of sedin dickriders fail me

[murd0c]

Sedins are great players, but they don't have the battle level it takes to win

inb4 a bunch of sedin dickriders fail me

I agree 100% they need more of a edge and drive in a way. But they just need to be surrounded with those type of players because they are they type of people that makes everyone around them better.

[cliffhanger33]

WSOP Main Event Day 4 Level 16: Bubble Bursts in Dramatic Fashion | BLUFF Poker News (http://news.bluffmagazine.com/wsop-main-event-day-4-level-16-bubble-bursts-in-dramatic-fashion-33679/)

Hockey fans in Vancouver have been eating up the coverage of their star goalie, Roberto Luongo, as he plays in his first WSOP Main Event. He might not be their goalie for much longer though, if you read between the lines of a conversation Luongo had with another player at his table, Kamran Siddiqui.

“You played for my hometown team,” said Siddiqui, who is from Miami.

“Who’s that?” asked Luongo.

“The Florida Panthers,” answered Siddiqui.

“Oh yeah, I might be going back there,” said Luongo, while smiling.

“Yeah?” asked Siddiqui.

“Might be,” replied Luongo.

Shortly after the bubble burst Luongo was eliminated. He finished 634th for $19,227.

[RevYouUp]

Don't worry guys. As long as we have some grit players like Kassian we will win the cup

[EmperorIS]

Don't worry guys. As long as we have some grit players like Kassian we will win the cup

That's if he gets to play.

[SkinnyPupp]

So realistically, what is the trade going to be for Lu to Florida?

Obviously Theodore will be sent back. Good thing IMO, he still has it and would make a great solid veteran backup for Schneider. Not sure what his personality is like though.

Then what? I know they want Bjugstad, but I wonder what Florida is thinking

[Expresso]

Don't worry guys. As long as we have some grit players like Kassian we will win the cup

Grit? Guy looked like Taylor Pyatt when he was on the ice.

[jeedee]

So realistically, what is the trade going to be for Lu to Florida?

Obviously Theodore will be sent back. Good thing IMO, he still has it and would make a great solid veteran backup for Schneider. Not sure what his personality is like though.

Then what? I know they want Bjugstad, but I wonder what Florida is thinking

It depends how Florida values Luongo. In a perfect world, I'd be ecstatic if we got:

Rights to Versteeg, Gudbranson/Bjugstad, Theodore & Goc.

We get a scoring winger for the 2nd line, a top prospect, a backup for Schneids and a third line center we're missing. If we get 3 out of the 4, I'd say thats a success.

Theodore also has a NTC/NMC so I don't know how'd he feel playing backup to a young Schneider

Grit? Guy looked like Taylor Pyatt when he was on the ice.

Yeah, Pyatt sure challenged the entire Hawks bench to a fight and made them shit their pants in the Chicago game when Daniel got elbowed right?

Give the kid a chance. I'll guarantee you if he has a breakout year next season putting up 20/20 you'll be in line for his jersey :lol

A full offseason can do wonders for Kassian. He's also been training/hanging around with the Sedins and Malholtra this offseason.

[hotshot1]

^^ If we got Versteeg, Gudbranson/Bjugstad, Theodore & Goc for Luongo, that would be one of the biggest rip-offs ever.

If the trade's with Florida, I really want Weiss. I think he would be an awesome fit here. He can play 2nd line center while Kesler's gone. When Kesler comes back, Maybe he can move to the wing? A 2nd line of Weiss-Kesler-Booth line would look nice. If he stays center, a 3rd line of Raymond-Weiss-Hansen is pretty nice too.

[Mike Oxbig]

luongo + raymond for theo + bjugstad/Gudbranson

please

[jeedee]

^^ If we got Versteeg, Gudbranson/Bjugstad, Theodore & Goc for Luongo, that would be one of the biggest rip-offs ever.

If the trade's with Florida, I really want Weiss. I think he would be an awesome fit here. He can play 2nd line center while Kesler's gone. When Kesler comes back, Maybe he can move to the wing? A 2nd line of Weiss-Kesler-Booth line would look nice. If he stays center, a 3rd line of Raymond-Weiss-Hansen is pretty nice too.

Who knows? We got Booth for 2 aging scrubs that had 1 year deals :lol

No way we get Weiss. He's to Florida as Kesler is to us.

A huge part of their centers which would cause a hole if he was traded.

[RacingMetro92]

Initial CBA Proposal from owners to NHLPA:

1-reduce players hockey related revenues to 46% from 57 %.
2-10 seasons in NHL before being UFA.
3-contracts length limited to 5 years
4-no more salary arbitration.
5- entry-level contract 5 years instead of 3.

Work stoppage here we come....:okay:

[SkinnyPupp]

Obviously the first proposal is going to be extreme

[bobbinka]

i dont see Gudbranson being moved, unless we offer a real nice package. him and Ellerby are the only young d-men they've got on the team. the other 4 dmen are all 33+. gudbranson is going to be their go-to guy in the future.

i say Luongo + Raymond + 3rd round pick FOR Bjugstad + rights to Versteeg + Clemmensen (I dont want him, but Theodore has NTC)

-----------------

on 2nd thought... they have so much capspace, maybe they can keep clemmensen and we'll find another goalie elsewhere, lol

[Gilgamesh]

^ They got Dmitri Kulikov. Tallon won't trade the youth unless they under-perform.

[MR_BIGGS]

Holy cow the NHL's initial proposal to the NHLPA is a low ball offer. I guess that's what negotiations are all about and they eventually reach a happy medium. With that first offer though, I'm thinking at the very least this hockey season is shortened.

Shortened season bodes well for the Canucks in my opinion. All speculation at this point, but what else are we going to do in this thread.

[Nabatron]

didnt we pay Mats Sundin a rediculous amount of money for half a season? so realisticaly paying Shane Doan that amount of money 7-7.5 mill for him to play a couple full season would be a better bet no?

[punkwax]

That 7.5 will stay on the cap for the duration of the contract.

[JesseBlue]

very slow hockey news day....*sigh*

[b0unce. [?]]

^slow as in nothing.

[kristianhay]

Modano to Wild? He'd consider
Mike Modano announced his retirement last summer, but the former Minnesota North Star told radio host Josh Rimer that he'd listen if the Minnesota Wild asked him to return to the NHL.

“If the Wild contacted me I’d listen to what they would have to say, certainly would be a fitting ending to a career obviously going back to Minnesota and what that town and what the fans meant to me,” Modano said. ”To play with those guys (Zach Parise/Ryan Suter) and play in front of the fans again back where it started would be pretty unique.”


Nobody is exactly sure how serious Modano was about the claim. The former first-overall pick finished his career with 1,374 points in 1,499 games between the North Stars, Dallas Stars and Detroit Red Wings.

NHL Rumor Rundown: Luongo to Panthers? (http://www.csnphilly.com/hockey-philadelphia-flyers/flyers-talk/NHL-Rumor-Rundown-Luongo-to-Panthers?blockID=740264&feedID=695)

:suspicious:

Kind of an interesting comment from Modano - really scraping for some news for you guys haha.

PS: Is anyone playing in the ASHL at the Richmond Oval? Just wondering if I'm playing against any RSers.

[cliffhanger33]

What time is the ASHL at the oval?

[kristianhay]

Games are usually 6:45 or 8:15 - gotta be on a team!

[pastarocket]

Bettman and the owners have met their match with Donald Fehr. Fehr is getting the player reps quickly on board for CBA discussions because he knows that this is gonna be a long, perhaps tense, business negotiation.

-smart move by the NHLPA to hire Fehr.

[RRxtar]

i understand the art of negotiating, but man, starting with a low ball like that is mind boggling. don't businesses ever just start realistically in the middle?

[spoon.ek9]

seems like the owners are looking to start at one extreme with the assumption that the nhlpa will approach it from the other side of the extreme. hopefully it doesn't take too long to reach a reasonable compromise.

[JesseBlue]

i understand the art of negotiating, but man, starting with a low ball like that is mind boggling. don't businesses ever just start realistically in the middle?
that's if the other will already be on board with it but realistically, they will always think its still a lowball offer

[LSF22]

Just cuz it's a slow day....

Paul Bissonnette and Claude Giroux Sauce Hockey Interview NHL Awards 2012 - YouTube

[bballguy]

At 47, Dominik Hasek will be making a comeback in the National Hockey League, according to his agent.

[b0unce. [?]]

He just wants to hold the record for the oldest goalie. No team would want him @ 47.

[MR_BIGGS]

Tomorrow is July 16. Isn't that when Doan's agent said his client would make a decision?

[kristianhay]

No, that date was thrown out.

If unrestricted free agent Shane Doan decides to leave the Phoenix Coyotes, he will find more than half of the NHL's teams lined up to make recruiting pitches.
Terry Bross of Lagardere Unlimited, the group representing Doan, said Wednesday that 16 NHL teams have made inquiries about Doan's intentions and "four or five" have already submitted formal offers. Bross also has been negotiating with the Coyotes to keep Doan in Phoenix.

"We are getting to the point where it is going to be decision-making time," Bross said.
Bross said Doan has been traveling by car in western Canada and has been difficult to reach. But the agent planned to talk to him either late Wednesday or early Thursday to discuss his options.

Doan, who has been with the Winnipeg/Phoenix franchise his entire career, has indicated he would prefer to stay with the Coyotes, provided he can be convinced that Greg Jamison's proposal to buy the team and keep it in Glendale, Ariz., is going to happen.
One complication is some Glendale residents are trying to obtain enough signatures on petitions to hold a referendum on the city's 20-year, $324 million arena management deal with Jamison.

The deadline for the signatures was supposed to be last Monday, but organizers of the petition drive believe it should be next Monday because that would be a month after they received the paperwork.

There have been reports of Doan possibly delaying his decision until Monday, but Bross indicated he doesn't believe Doan needs to wait.

"There is no relevance to the July 16th date for us," he said. "That's off the table."

Doan, 35, is a power forward with leadership ability, and most of the league's high-profile teams are interested in signing him, including the Stanley Cup champion Los Angeles Kings. The Detroit Red Wings, Pittsburgh Penguins and Vancouver Canucks also are believed to be in the mix.

Agent: 16 teams have inquired about Shane Doan (http://www.usatoday.com/sports/hockey/nhl/coyotes/story/2012-07-11/shane-doan-interest/56156214/1)

[mb_]

Slow (more like no) news day so...

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/548142_328200070605282_195397597_n.jpg

:lawl: :joy:

[PornMaster]

This Shane Doan shit is like Matts Sundin all over again

"agent says sundin will make a decision on this day"

"that date was just a date he still hasn't made his mind"

[kristianhay]

Another slow day of nothingness, but Green declined the Caps qualifying offer.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/capitals-insider/post/mike-green-declines-caps-qualifying-offer/2012/07/15/gJQAtlvCnW_blog.html?wprss=rss_capitals-insider

Mike Green declines Washington Capitals’ qualifying offer

By Katie Carrera


Defenseman Mike Green declined the Capitals’ qualifying offer of a one-year contract worth $5 million. He had until 5 p.m. Sunday to accept the deal, as was the case with all restricted free agents considering qualifying offers.
Both sides can continue to negotiate a new contract despite the deadline, and that’s expected to happen in this case.
On Saturday, General Manager George McPhee described the expiration date on qualifying offers as an “artificial deadline.” While McPhee didn’t share any insight into the negotiations, he expressed optimism when questioned about re-signing Green and fellow restricted free-agent defenseman John Carlson.
“When you’re sort of negotiating in good faith and trying to get it done — I don’t think anybody’s trying to squeeze anybody on the other side — and so in some ways it’s an artificial deadline,” McPhee said when asked Saturday how the deadline alters negotiations. “I think we’ve had healthy discussions with both players, and there are deals to be made there. So I don’t expect tomorrow to be a big day with respect to signing these players. I think that’s something we’ll get done sooner than later and they’ll be deals that we can live with and they can live with.”

At this time it’s unclear whether Carlson accepted his qualifying offer of one-year, $826,875 but it’s believed he will seek a longer-term contract.

[DanHibiki]

This is like the no fap challenge. GIMME MY NEWSSSSSSSS

[JesseBlue]

tick tock tick tock....a billion more ticks and tocks and its the start of hockey season...

[Gilgamesh]

^ Wasn't Green injured for 2 seasons?

[Ronin]

Yes.

But...Green is the only defenseman to break the 30-goal mark since the early 90s. People still remember 31-42-73 Mike Green...not play 30 games and be awful in all of them Mike Green.

[murd0c]

yes Green can score but he has had 2 bad years and hes more of a liability then anything

[jeedee]

You guys are nuts.

I'd kill for Green to be on our team.

Edler-Green pairing?

:sweetjesus:

[dbaz]

id never play green with edler. if he was on the team id want him to play with hamhuis or garrison, defensive dman. then green can just join the rush whenever.

[Gilgamesh]

I'm not saying he's bad. I just wouldn't think he would have leverage after 2 lackluster seasons.

[b0unce. [?]]

green is good when he's healthy. but man this guy is so injury prone =/

[DanHibiki]

;7976554']green is good when he's healthy. but man this guy is so injury prone =/

well now that salo's going, who's gonna fill in for the injury prone slot????

[kristianhay]

News1130 We have learned that #Canucks goalie Eddie Lack has said no to Vancouver's qualifying offer

Interesting. I think Lack deserves to be an NHL backup, maybe he's worried he'll be buried in the minors again this year? Hopefully Gillis figures it out and gets Lack signed. He's still an RFA, but it would be great to have him back.

[dbaz]

nhl starter no, backup yes. also budaj or more specifically his gear was spotted at yvr by dan murphy. tryout?

[murd0c]

Interesting. I think Lack deserves to be an NHL starter, maybe he's worried he'll be buried in the minors again this year? Hopefully Gillis figures it out and gets Lack signed. He's still an RFA, but it would be great to have him back.

He needs to be a backup before he's a starter no questions asked. I think he's worried that hes going to be in the AHL again if Lu isn't traded and he doesn't want that at all.

[kristianhay]

Woops, typo haha sorry guys. 100% meant backup as opposed to starter. Don't shoot.

I saw the Budaj tweet by Murph and doubt it's anything, probably just here to train if anything. I think he's still on contract with Montreal.

[7seven]

I think Lack needs some more time in the AHL or even Swedish elite league to grow mentally before the NHL. Nolan Baumgartner, who just retired from the Wolves and is now an assistant coach with them when asked about Lack, said he probably need more time to mature and figure out how to be a pro daily.

[murd0c]

Cap's re-sign Mike Green for 3yrs $18.25mill

[sonick]

He couldn't land any big tuna free agents this off-season, so he decided to land an actual big tuna. He named it "Shea"

https://p.twimg.com/Ax42WFeCEAEeNTT.jpg

[StutteR_]

^ Can't wait till training camp. Looks like he'll have more potential than Raymond.

[JKam]

Cap's re-sign Mike Green for 3yrs $18.25mill

In case anyone is looking for it.
source: Capitals re-sign Green to three-year, $18.25M contract (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=400727)

[highfive]

Way to fucking inflate dman salaries. I suppose Mr. "one year wonder" Garrison is pretty good at $4.6. If players like Green is getting $6 million. I wonder what Edler and Weber is going to get?

[MR_BIGGS]

Way to fucking inflate dman salaries. I suppose Mr. "one year wonder" Garrison is pretty good at $4.6. If players like Green is getting $6 million. I wonder what Edler and Weber is going to get?

With the CBA to expire, everyone is wondering what they would get.

[RiceIntegraRS]

a healthy Mike Green @ 6 mil is still a good signing imo.

[highfive]

With the CBA to expire, everyone is wondering what they would get.

That is true, a lot of people are expecting a roll back on salaries like last time.

I highly doubt it will be the same this time or we are going to miss another season of hockey.

[UFO]

Way to fucking inflate dman salaries. I suppose Mr. "one year wonder" Garrison is pretty good at $4.6. If players like Green is getting $6 million. I wonder what Edler and Weber is going to get?

We'll see this season what Edler is really made of, playing without his safety blanket aka Sami Salo. I expect pt production will likely remain about the same, but we'll see how he is defensively. On the flip side it'd be nice for Garrison to chip in 30 pts to replace Salo's production, but offering Salo's consistent defensive play is where he'll earn his paycheque IMO.

Guys like Green and Erik Karlsson are not the norm, putting up big (for d-men) offensive production with barely mediocre defensive play yet GM's are willing to throw the big money at them.

[spideyv2]

Way to fucking inflate dman salaries. I suppose Mr. "one year wonder" Garrison is pretty good at $4.6. If players like Green is getting $6 million. I wonder what Edler and Weber is going to get?

I wasn't aware Edler has scored 30 goals, and has been nominated for the Norris twice? When Green is healthy, he holds more value than Edler.

IF Green can find his form, $6mill is a steal

[MR_BIGGS]

That is true, a lot of people are expecting a roll back on salaries like last time.

I highly doubt it will be the same this time or we are going to miss another season of hockey.

I agree. It sucks because the Canucks schedule this year is suppose to be very favourable, or at least better than it has been in long long time. While people like Bob Mackenzie are preaching patience, I think the sky is falling and at the very least the season is shortened. Shortened season for the Canucks, at first I though may be good (rest for Kesler and no rush to hurry back), but on second thought, the travel is going to kill this team.

[highfive]

I wasn't aware Edler has scored 30 goals, and has been nominated for the Norris twice? When Green is healthy, he holds more value than Edler.

IF Green can find his form, $6mill is a steal

True but that's going to be a really big IF.

I agree. It sucks because the Canucks schedule this year is suppose to be very favourable, or at least better than it has been in long long time. While people like Bob Mackenzie are preaching patience, I think the sky is falling and at the very least the season is shortened. Shortened season for the Canucks, at first I though may be good (rest for Kesler and no rush to hurry back), but on second thought, the travel is going to kill this team.

How's the travel going to kill this team?

[MR_BIGGS]

With a shortened season, the NHL is going to try and pack in as many games as they can in a short period of time. The Canucks are considered a veteran team, not good for their legs IMO.

[PornMaster]

canucks are used to the travel by now the travel will hurt other teams more

[EmperorIS]

Wtf.... any professional team should be used to travel
how is that ever an excuse

ooooo maybe the team isn't used to the weather ... it rained yesterday now its all sunny ..FUCK THIS SHIT

[SkinnyPupp]

I agree. It sucks because the Canucks schedule this year is suppose to be very favourable, or at least better than it has been in long long time. While people like Bob Mackenzie are preaching patience, I think the sky is falling and at the very least the season is shortened. Shortened season for the Canucks, at first I though may be good (rest for Kesler and no rush to hurry back), but on second thought, the travel is going to kill this team.
I don't see how the schedule could be more favourable than it was the last 2 years... At least it should be "as easy" and should be another automatic President's Trophy for them...

Unless the Wild suddenly get really good with their new stars

[MR_BIGGS]

You never get used to the schedule, you deal with it.

It's not an excuse, its a fact that the Canucks have the most travel of any team in the league. You cram a bunch of games into a shortened season and that's a recipe for disaster. Look at the NBA. So many players that aren't injury prone got hurt this year. Many think it is because of the shortened season. Four games in five nights was the norm for some stretches.

A veteran team may get use to the travel, but their bodies can't take it as well as younger players. I'm just stating an opinion.

And i do think the Canucks schedule is way more favorable than in the past. For one thing, five teams will log more kilometres than the Canucks this season. Secondly, the two largest road trips will be done on October and November. That's to say 14 of their first 23 games will be played on the road.

The Canucks get the worst of their travel done early. The schedule features two five-game road trips and both come in the first two months of the season.

[highfive]

I think the Canucks will do fine.

Look at the Sedins, they are always in great shape and rarely gets hurt.

Kesler would (SHOULD) have a well rested offseason and start of the season from his injury.

Burrows / Hansen / Hamhuis / Bieksa - These guys are always durable

Higgins - Just no more staph infections.

I think a shortened season / compacted schedule is something Canucks acknowledge and knows how to deal with.

[Durrann]

I think the Canucks will do fine.

Look at the Sedins, they are always in great shape and rarely gets hurt.

Kesler would (SHOULD) have a well rested offseason and start of the season from his injury.

Burrows / Hansen / Hamhuis / Bieksa - These guys are always durable

Higgins - Just no more staph infections.

I think a shortened season / compacted schedule is something Canucks acknowledge and knows how to deal with.

yeah and thats why Gillis hired a sleep doctor etc.

[kwy]

Kesler won't be back for the start of the season.

[DanHibiki]

Kesler won't be back for the start of the season.

maaaaaaan not again

[murd0c]

Kesler won't be back for the start of the season.

maaaaaaan not again

We found that out months ago

[spoon.ek9]

I just hope this time he keeps his promise and doesn't rush back into the lineup like last season.

[Mike Oxbig]

Kesler should take as much time as he needs because he is the next target canucks fan throw under the bus after luongo's departure.

[Vansterdam]

i thought mason raymond was next :troll:

then kesler

[murd0c]

What you smoking cause it's Wack.... We all know AV is next on the chopping block :troll:

[DanHibiki]

The VPD upped their riot squad for next year's Stanley Cup run

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-snc7/599325_328953370529952_1979830150_n.jpg

[murd0c]

Just saw in News1130 twitter feed that they claim Canucks offer to Doan won't be the most money but Doan remains "still very interest" in Vancouver. Even tho that doesn't really mean anything lol

[highfive]

After everything, I'm seriously thinking Doan is just going to resign in Phoenix.

[7seven]

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland
Sources say ‪#Kings‬ GM Dean Lombardi wants a specific player from the ‪#Leafs‬ roster along with pick in return for Jonathan Bernier


Reports sound like Burke and Lombardi have been going back and forth regarding Bernier for the last couple weeks now, wonder if Burke has just given up on trying to get Lu.

[spoon.ek9]

^ asking price is probably still too high for Lu. MG is going to have to settle for something sooner or later.

[hypercube]

Andy Strickland ‏@andystrickland
Sources say ‪#Kings‬ GM Dean Lombardi wants a specific player from the ‪#Leafs‬ roster along with pick in return for Jonathan Bernier Reports sound like Burke and Lombardi have been going back and forth regarding Bernier for the last couple weeks now, wonder if Burke has just given up on trying to get Lu.

Its probably Gardiner + a pick

[jeedee]

^ MG is going to have to settle for something sooner or later.

Nope. MG is too stubborn to do that.

Lu is still an elite goaltender. I'd be pissed if he got traded for peanuts.

I also don't mind both goalies playing for us next season [till the trade deadline]. Arguably the best goalie tandem starting next season? Sure why not.

[Hondaracer]

Leafs would be better off giving up Gardiner for Lu

[invader]

rather have Kulikov

[OGCStrike]

Strombabble: Stalemate | CanucksArmy (http://canucksarmy.com/2012/7/18/strombabble-stalemate)

Guess we have to wait till late summer for any major trades for Lu... :okay:

[Mike Oxbig]

they offered david bolland for luongo HAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHH

for hossa or sharp only... even if the hawks lose one of them, they have equal chance with the canucks after the trade for a shot winning the cup

[Bouncing Bettys]

Gillis should consider moving Schnieder rather than Luongo. Trade value is higher, there are more teams interested, and he is still an unproven commodity who could very well flop when given a full time starting job.

[Tim Budong]

Gillis should consider moving Schnieder rather than Luongo. Trade value is higher, there are more teams interested, and he is still an unproven commodity who could very well flop when given a full time starting job.

at this point, it doesn't matter who gets moved
The feeling is that the asking price for either one is TOO DAMN HIGH

[murd0c]

Right now he doesn't need to trade Lu right now. If Doan does decide to come to us I can see Lu getting traded shortly after to free up cap space. In the mean time why not wait and take it easy, Gillis knows he's going to get a great deal sooner then later.

[punkwax]

at this point, it doesn't matter who gets moved
The feeling is that the asking price for either one is TOO DAMN HIGH

Understandably....

[Ch28]

at this point, it doesn't matter who gets moved
The feeling is that the asking price for either one is TOO DAMN HIGH

It should be high. He's still an excellent goalie

[murd0c]

HOLY FUCK

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger

Breaking: Shea Weber agrees to offer sheet with Philadelphia. 14 years, upwards of $100 mil. Preds have 7 days to match. Wow!!

[sonick]

pwned.

[Bonka]

Done.

[RiceIntegraRS]

14 year 100mil contract. Thats approximately 7.1Mil a year, a bargain for a guy like Weber. I think Weber really shot himself in the foot by agreeing to a contract with the Flyers for that amount if he wanted out of Nashville. Cause i cant see why Nashville wouldnt match that offer. So now he would be stuck there for the rest of his career. Unless he demands a trade in the near future or withholds his services

[dbaz]

looks like webers a pred for life. unless they match it and then trade him. 4 first they would receive would be for 22-30 every year not really worth it.

[spideyv2]

LOZLZOLZLULZ

OH WAIT GOUYZZZ, BUT THE PPL ON CDC SED WEBER WAS A GARANTEED CANUCK!!!!

[OGCStrike]

nashville got screwed over by phily !!!:fullofwin:
first minnosota with suter, soon philly with weber !!

[murd0c]

LMFAO

Kevin Bieksa ‏@kbieksa3

#Weber #offersheet @Ryan_Kesler Now that's an offer sheet Kes! Makes yours look like 2 three year olds bartering for the red lego...

[Tim Budong]

SHIT SON PREDS HAHA

[Gh0stRider]

LOL FLYERS

[murd0c]

I'm more happy we finally have some hockey talk lol

[Tim Budong]

at 7.5m/year its not too bad
haha
just hte length

[Tim Budong]

the compensation to Nashville
6,268,175 — $7,835,219: Two first-round picks, a second and third

anything more would be
4 1st rnd picks

[Ronin]

Preds will match tomorrow or something. That's a deal for Weber. Sure, he'll be 41 when that contract is done but it's probably front loaded with a lower salary for 38-39-40-41.

Good job, Flyers...you just helped the Preds negotiate a completely reasonable contract for the NHL's best all-around defenseman.

...but this just tells me the Preds were lowballing Weber. $7.1m is like...less than Scott Gomez money!

[411ken]

Read that he wud make 26mil for 1 calendar year ? Holy shit if true


Preda have to match! First round picks from Philly will be in high 20s so ya.
I know u can still find gems but no way u "trade" weber for those picks

[pure.life]

now this is news!

[DanHibiki]

Read that he wud make 26mil for 1 calendar year ? Holy shit if true


Preda have to match! First round picks from Philly will be in high 20s so ya.
I know u can still find gems but no way u "trade" weber for those picks

They'll prob lose those draft picks in years to come anyway when other teams pull the same thing again. Poor Nashville.

[pure.life]

man I feel bad for Rinne. If he's not having a nightmare now, he'll surely have it next year

[RRxtar]

man, these contracts are NOT good for the NHL. unless the new CBA does something about them, EVERY star is going to be looking for 10+ years and 100mil contracts now. its making the players bigger than the game. and they can sit back with their guaranteed money. would not want a contract like that on my team.

the cap era was supposed to even the playing field. these contracts are now making it so only teams dumb enough with dumb enough deep pockets are able to sign superstars. but id bet that 4 out of 5 teams signing these contracts are going to wish they hadn't before the contract is half way thru.

remember when dipietro and more recently kolvalchuk signed their contracts? it was absurd at the time. now theres been what, 5 or 6 this year?

theres 15 guys in the NHL (16 with webber) with 10-15 year deals now.

[GrapeDrink]

^ I feel you man, as a sharks fan, our GM basically straight up said hes opposed to that and he wouldn't give those to anyone, and I personally like that he keeps the team flex, people are actually accountable to live up to their contracts or get moved. But at the same time because of that, we end up missing on all the big name FA's because hes unwilling to stoop to that level of handing out these redic 13-14 year front loaded contracts its just a joke imo

[spoon.ek9]

Good job by the Flyers... :lol

I'm so happy there's actual news to read about :alone:

[Gilgamesh]

^ I feel you man, as a sharks fan, our GM basically straight up said hes opposed to that and he wouldn't give those to anyone, and I personally like that he keeps the team flex, people are actually accountable to live up to their contracts or get moved. But at the same time because of that, we end up missing on all the big name FA's because hes unwilling to stoop to that level of handing out these redic 13-14 year front loaded contracts its just a joke imo

Burke's like that too.Those contracts are good only for the short-term and it seems like Nashville and Florida will be the dumping ground for these contracts.

[EmperorIS]

Luongo's contract aint so bad now

[TPMarko]

Luongo's contract aint so bad now

it never was that bad. it was just the media painting a shitty picture all the time.

[7seven]

Nick Kypreos ‏@RealKyper
#Preds Weber offer sheet from #Flyers. 1st 4 yrs 1M salary+13M sb; yrs 5-6 4M sal+ 8Msb; yrs 7-10 6M sal; year 11 3M sal; last 3 yrs 1M sal

Preds have to match IMO, but the $56M in the first 4 years might be hard for the owners to agree to, some saying Nashville lost $6-7M last year.

[Vansterdam]

news says weber already took the offer with philly?

[winson604]

^^
Preds have 7 days to match.

[Hondaracer]

Match it then trade him, you'll get more value that way, first rounders mean nothing to a franchise like Nashville

[punkwax]

Its a signed offer, Preds have time to match.

Edit - beat me to it.

I agree with Hondaracer. Weber worth far more than draft picks and there are teams who don't mind those crazy contracts.

[7seven]

Match it then trade him, you'll get more value that way, first rounders mean nothing to a franchise like Nashville

Only problem for Preds is that if you match an offer sheet, you cannot trade that player for 1 calendar year from the date you match. So Preds owners will have to payout $27mil in cash within the calendar year ($1mil in salary and two $13mil signing bonuses), that's a lot of cash for a team that lost ~$7mil last year.

They can hold onto him for a year then try to try to trade him but they would still be out $27mil. Apparently Nashville was in the middle of trade talks with a number of teams regarding Weber when Philly threw the offer sheet at Weber, so this totally fucks Nashville, rumor is Canucks was one of those teams.

This reminds me of the Scott Stevens offer sheet, Caps didn't match and received 5 1st round picks, with those they drafted Gonchar, Peake, Witt, Kharmalov and Halverson, totally not worth it.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Nashville didn't want to give Weber $7+ on a 3 year term last year and opted for team elected arbitration.

[MR_BIGGS]

Weber was in contract talks with Nashville. By accepting this offer sheet from Philly, you have to think they were far apart in their negoitations. This is going to be awkward if Nashville matches. Obviously he wants out. Do they take the hit and trade him after one year? There are a lot of players in their last year of contracts for 2012-13, I wonder what they are thinking with these contracts and what they will get in the new CBA. I think these long contracts will be gone. I personally don't like them because I think it signals less trades for elite players.

[UFO]

As ridiculous as these contracts seem, I'd rather them get rid of no trade/movement clauses over restricting terms on contracts. Given this summer's signings, it was a fair deal/offer, I can't even consider it 'predatory'. A 1 year deal at $8M would be more predatory. I just find it ironic that the owners as a group want to get rid of these mega term front loaded contracts, and then the owners individually are also floating these mega term contracts out at the same time. It'll be interesting to see what happens 6-7 years down the line from now when the crap years of some of these contracts are going to have to get eaten up by somebody or we have a bunch of Wade Reddens and Sheldon Sourays buried in the minors.

I'm going to guess the Weber camp thinks these mega term deals as we know them are not going to be here with the new CBA, so may as well sign one now while he still can and guarantee some big $$ even if it means Pred's match and having to play for them for the rest of his career. If he really wants out in a year or two, he can just pull a Rick Nash and ask for a trade, seems there are no consequences with this course of action.

[411ken]

I say match it and then trade him to philly for those same 4 first rounders and couturier or other prospects lol

[SumAznGuy]

Only problem for Preds is that if you match an offer sheet, you cannot trade that player for 1 calendar year from the date you match. So Preds owners will have to payout $27mil in cash within the calendar year ($1mil in salary and two $13mil signing bonuses), that's a lot of cash for a team that lost ~$7mil last year.

Is there any reason why they offered him a signing bonus instead of more money for regular salary?

[Gumby]

I tell ya - playing the offer sheet card is a pretty slutty move!

[TPMarko]

the signing bonus is paid at the beginning of the year before the season starts. thats why within 1 calendar year weber will get 27 million. this is to scare off the preds from matching the offer. if it was a regular salary with a smaller bonus, the preds will more likely match and look for a trade after 1 year. least thats my understanding of it.

[Expresso]

Signing Bonuses are typically guaranteed. If a lock out occurs, they still get their money.
Is there any reason why they offered him a signing bonus instead of more money for regular salary?



I'm with UFO on this one. With the uncertainty of the next CBA, this may be the only time he can cash in BIG and LONG TERM. I don't think it had to do much with whether he wanted to leave or not. I'm sure he be happy playing in Nashville and in this case Philly as well. Can't help but think his Agent probably encouraged this.

[AWDTurboLuvr]

Is there any reason why they offered him a signing bonus instead of more money for regular salary?

Reason #1) If Preds decide to match, they must pay out a total of $27 million for Weber to play one season. Awful tough for a team with limited funds.

Reason #2) Current CBA negotiations have the owners fighting for salary rollbacks. However, bonuses are untouchable and therefore Weber is guaranteed that money.

[quasi]

Weber was in contract talks with Nashville. By accepting this offer sheet from Philly, you have to think they were far apart in their negoitations. This is going to be awkward if Nashville matches. Obviously he wants out. Do they take the hit and trade him after one year? There are a lot of players in their last year of contracts for 2012-13, I wonder what they are thinking with these contracts and what they will get in the new CBA. I think these long contracts will be gone. I personally don't like them because I think it signals less trades for elite players.

I don't think he necessarily wanted to be traded. I think anyone would have signed that guaranteed money deal if it was thrown in front of them. Well maybe not anyone but 99 out of 100 players offered it would have signed it.

[MR_BIGGS]

He's guarenteed that money and protected from salary rollbacks if the new CBA gets signed. Some of the blame rests with Nashville with their initial low ball offer to Weber. He's an elite dman and was going to get compensated accordingly.

[hypediss]

will someone educate me how this is different than the kovulchuk contract nhl vetoed and penalized on last year.

these contracts are getting out of hand...

[TPMarko]

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports

‪#Canucks‬ forward Manny Maholtra should be taking Shane Doan out for dinner tonight after CBA meetings.

come on get it done!

[Spoon]

Thought the canucks were trying to get rid of Malholtra too. How's that going to help.

[Ch28]

Murph just treated that Canucks discussed sending Weber an offer sheetbut figured Nashville would've matched it. All talk from the Canucks once again

[highfive]

Thought the canucks were trying to get rid of Malholtra too. How's that going to help.

Wasn't that just media speculation that with Manny's cap hit vs is drop in production, it was better to get rid of him?

[kwy]

Keep Manny..he seems like a great character and locker room guy. Plus, he's a great defensive zone sacrificial lamb/center.