[murd0c]

With the trade talk going to start up real quick why wait.

Found this great article by TSN that really sums everything up.

Off-Season Game Plan: Vancouver Canucks (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=397989)

Returning Forwards

Daniel Sedin 77.85 72 30 37 67 +16 $6.1M
Henrik Sedin 73.63 82 14 67 81 +23 $6.1M
Alex Burrows 73.09 80 28 24 52 +24 $2.0M
Ryan Kesler 72.25 77 22 27 49 +11 $5.0M
Chris Higgins 70.23 71 18 25 43 +11 $1.9M
Jannik Hansen 66.55 82 16 23 39 +18 $1.35M
David Booth 65.41 62 16 14 30 -5 $4.25M
Maxim Lapierre 59.26 82 9 10 19 -3 $1.0M
Zack Kassian 57.66 44 4 6 10 -2 $870K
Manny Malhotra 56.53 78 7 11 18 -11 $2.5M

Free Agent Forwards

Mason Raymond 63.66 55 10 10 20 +4 RFA $2.55M
Andrew Ebbett 62.88 18 5 1 6 +2 UFA $525K
Byron Bitz 62.69 10 1 3 4 +2 UFA $700K
Samuel Pahlsson 58.30 80 4 13 17 -2 UFA $2.625M
Dale Weise 54.92 68 4 4 8 -1 RFA $605K
Aaron Volpatti 52.85 23 1 0 1 -2 UFA $612.5K


Returning Defence
Player Rating GP G A PTS +/- Cap Hit
Alexander Edler 76.93 82 11 38 49 0 $3.25M
Kevin Bieksa 75.35 78 8 36 44 +12 $4.6M
Dan Hamhuis 73.08 82 4 33 37 +29 $4.5M
Keith Ballard 62.32 47 1 6 7 0 $4.2M
Andrew Alberts 60.54 44 2 1 3 +4 $1.225M


Free Agent Defence
Player Rating GP G A PTS +/- Class '11-'12 Cap Hit
Sami Salo 69.76 69 9 16 25 +7 UFA $2.0M
Aaron Rome 65.30 43 4 6 10 -4 UFA $750K
Marc-Andre Gragnani 63.75 58 2 13 15 +6 RFA $550K


Top Prospects
Player Pos. Team/League Stats
Nicklas Jensen RW Oshawa (OHL) 25-33-58, +2, 57 GP
Chris Tanev D Chicago (AHL) 0-14-14, +12, 34 GP
Kevin Connauton D Chicago (AHL) 13-20-33, -3, 73 GP
Eddie Lack G Chicago (AHL) 21-20-3, 2.31 GAA, .925 SV%, 46 GP
Jordan Schroeder C Chicago (AHL) 21-23-44, +8, 76 GP
Anton Rodin RW Chicago (AHL) 10-17-27, -5, 62 GP
Joseph LaBate C Wisconsin (WCHA) 5-15-20, +3, 37 GP
Patrick McNally D Harvard (ECAC) 6-22-28, -7, 34 GP
Alexandre Grenier RW Halifax (QMJHL) 25-39-64, -2, 64 GP
Adam Polasek D Chicago (AHL) 1-8-9, +8, 46 GP

[RRxtar]

1st

[spideyv2]

We need a top 6 forward, top 4 Dman to play with Edler, and a player like Moen

If we can acquire these type of players, I can see us having a good run...barring any injuries

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edit edit - spot for sale

[murd0c]

u mean 2nd RRxtar :troll:

I think the big issue is with Detroit going after Sutter right now. I would like to see him on the east cost but I have a feeling they have a lock on him right now.

[LikeASir]

Hoping that Jensen can crack the line up!! or at least get his 9 games

[Kilinim]

In on 1st

[LikeASir]

Garrison a sure thing for the canucks :troll:

[murd0c]

I'm actually kind of surprised, I thought the first thing someone would of said is about the slight title change but after the past year I think it was really needed. :thumbs:

[SkunkWorks]

Still choked about the Hodgson-Kassian trade.

[MG1]

In like a dirty shirt.......

[Renthal]

hope we can get pahlsson to stay!

[murd0c]

hope we can get pahlsson to stay!

He said hes retiring now :(

[punkwax]

In on 1.

I have a feeling Kassian will be a much better player this season. He'll have had a full offseason training regimen, Canucks style. He'll have training camp , pre-season games etc. to learn team tendencies... lets hope I'm right!

[LikeASir]

Joe Thornton + 2012 4th Round pick for Roberto Luongo + Rights to Mason Raymond


How many people would do that? Just a proposal my friend brought up and i thought the value is pretty even. They can then trade Niemi to Tampa Bay/Toronto

[domco]

1 more year pahlsson!

[woob]

In on 1.

OP, you forgot to list goalies on your roster sheet ;)

[murd0c]

In on 1.

OP, you forgot to list goalies on your roster sheet ;)

I didn't feel the need to, we know whats up with that :)

[Greenstoner]

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[van19]

in on 1st !

[tonyzoomzoom]

yay. glad we can finally turn the page on a most disappointing 2011/12 season.

So looking forward to October !!

[Harvey Specter]

Bump this post next April when we start are run for the cup!

[Mr.C]

So, am I the only one who's waiting for the playoffs, and don't give two shits about the regular season?

[604pt]

In on 1st. Stoked for the Draft!

[Devastator]

In on 1st

[OGCStrike]

WOOT cant wait till october :nyan:

[murd0c]

October, July1st is when I'm really excited. I even opened up a twitter account to follow everyone.

[spideyv2]

In on 1.

I have a feeling Kassian will be a much better player this season. He'll have had a full offseason training regimen, Canucks style. He'll have training camp , pre-season games etc. to learn team tendencies... lets hope I'm right!

Same. If he plays a full season for us, I predict a 15g 15a ceiling this year.

[HonestTea]

IN ON 2!

[jack3d]

yeah baby

[Gh0stRider]

hoping DET can get Suter :D

[b0unce. [?]]

as far as our free agent forwards and defense, can we safely assume guys like pahllson isnt coming back because he's considering retirement, weise may not be back, rome, and salo may be retiring.

salo retiring is a question i wonder every year :lol at this point, after all the surgeries and injuries, he isnt even human anymore.

[snowball]

Hopefully we can get someone to play with kesler, booth was a try and that didn't work, if only we could afford parise.... :(

[mb_]

Gonna be a crazy off-season!

[Hondaracer]

Too soon junior

[skiiipi]

Hopefully we can get someone to play with kesler, booth was a try and that didn't work, if only we could afford parise.... :(

why cant we?
if marty retires.....would NJ consider taking Luongo off our hands for the rights of Parise + another player....???

And with Roberto's cap space out of the picture, i'm sure we can fit parise in.....and maybe parise would take a discount to play with this Olympic linemate....Booth, Kesler, Parise...what would be a sick line...would rival the twins for our "1st line".

[Grandmaster TSE]

ifl

[spoon.ek9]

I laughed at the suggestion that the Canucks should consider bringing Wellfed back :fuckthatshit:

[xeryusx]

Raymond for LA Kings' Pia Toscano?



I just saw my PVR'd Jimmy Kimmel..they have the whole Kings roster drinking from the cup.

[Tim Budong]

why cant we?
if marty retires.....would NJ consider taking Luongo off our hands for the rights of Parise + another player....???

And with Roberto's cap space out of the picture, i'm sure we can fit parise in.....and maybe parise would take a discount to play with this Olympic linemate....Booth, Kesler, Parise...what would be a sick line...would rival the twins for our "1st line".

Luongo for the rights of parise?
NOT A CHANCE

Parise is UFA, could come free

[Osaka]

Parise, a Canuck... wouldn't that be something

[Vansterdam]

Please get rid of raymond

[Mike Oxbig]

I bet murd0c was stoned when he made this thread :nyan:

2012 and 2013 thread should not be made until #1 or #35 is traded, so we can talk building our team from goalie out

[mb_]

Who are your guys' locks for next season?

Mine would be
Twins
Burr
Kes
Higgins
Hansen
Lapierre

Hamhuis
Edler
Bieksa

Salo if he doesn't retire
Maybe Booth
Hopefully we can keep both Lu and Schneids

[punkwax]

I think Ballard played his best D down the stretch. People need to stop focusing on his salary. The Canucks didnt write that contract and if he lasts, the next one won't be as much of a cap hit.

[Not really racist!]

get rid of booth, let raymond walk (rfa)

[Durrann]

we need a new #1 line
i think a lot of teams have twins figured out by now

Who are your guys' locks for next season?

Mine would be
Twins
Burr
Kes
Higgins
Hansen
Lapierre

Hamhuis
Edler
Bieksa

Salo if he doesn't retire
Maybe Booth
Hopefully we can keep both Lu and Schneids

[b0unce. [?]]

we need a new #1 line
i think a lot of teams have twins figured out by now

i'm down for that. just go back to throwing in a big guy with some hands and you're good to go. anson carter did it and he sucked.

[kristianhay]

Draft day is next Friday.. it will be interesting to see who the Canucks pick. Any thoughts on who they will pick with their current pick (assuming they don't trade up, trade it away, etc)?

[b0unce. [?]]

grab pk subban's brother :lol, i think he's in the draft this year

[kristianhay]

Do not want another tendy haha.

Henrik Samuelsson seems to be on a lot of mock drafts around the area of the Canucks.

Henrik Samuelsson Highlights - YouTube

Big gritty forward who isn't afraid to get into the dirty areas.

Samuelsson has come to the Oil Kings and has fit in very nicely thus far. Samuelsson’s big frame compliments the smaller stature skilled forwards the Oil Kings have and adds an element to their lineup they were sorely missing. Offensively, he doesn’t have the flair that many of the offensive forwards in this draft have, but his value as a big body in front of the net and someone will who go to the dirty areas is of tremendous value. He’s already been suspended twice so far in his short WHL career, but the grit and size he brings to the lineup makes him a very interesting player for NHL teams. With a strong showing in the playoffs, expect Samuelsson to continue to ascend up the draft rankings.

[murd0c]

;7946186']grab pk subban's brother :lol, i think he's in the draft this year

He's raited as the top goalie in this years draft and will be going fairly early I think. (for a goalie that is)

[kwy]

why cant we?
if marty retires.....would NJ consider taking Luongo off our hands for the rights of Parise + another player....???

And with Roberto's cap space out of the picture, i'm sure we can fit parise in.....and maybe parise would take a discount to play with this Olympic linemate....Booth, Kesler, Parise...what would be a sick line...would rival the twins for our "1st line".

Devils' Martin Brodeur will play next season, hopes to stay in New Jersey | NJ.com (http://www.nj.com/devils/index.ssf/2012/06/devils_martin_brodeur_will_pla_1.html)

Marty thinks he'll stay.

I highly doubt we'll acquire Parise.

[b0unce. [?]]

He's raited as the top goalie in this years draft and will be going fairly early I think. (for a goalie that is)

to florida i think

[Durrann]

;7946161']i'm down for that. just go back to throwing in a big guy with some hands and you're good to go. anson carter did it and he sucked.

No i didnt mean to get rid of the twins

i guess we need another line who can be just as good as our #1

[Not really racist!]

No i didnt mean to get rid of the twins

i guess we need another line who can be just as good as our #1

suggestions mr.armchair gm?

we already have 14.2 mil dedicated to our first line...
should be +2 more mil considering burr is due for a raise after next season

[highfive]

suggestions mr.armchair gm?

we already have 14.2 mil dedicated to our first line...
should be +2 more mil considering burr is due for a raise after next season

Good thing we have Malhotra contract expiring too. That will help Burrows increase in salary.

As much as I want to see Ballard succeed and playing more, his salary at $4+ million is a drag playing on the third pairing.

Look at the Kings, aside from Doughty, Willie is the highest pay at $3.5 million.

Scuderi and Greene were paid $3 and $2+ million.

Voynov and Martinez is combined for $1.5 million next season.

[trancehead]

interesting to what will become of our third line

[MR_BIGGS]

Anyone read the reports that Parise will receive the most money as a free agent this off-season in an offer from the Minnesota Wild, according to former Wild general manager, Lou Nanne.

Report: Zach Parise, Devils captain, will receive biggest offer from Minnesota Wild | SI Tracking Blog (http://tracking.si.com/2012/06/13/zach-parise-new-jersey-devils-minnesota-wild-nhl/)

“I had dinner with [Wild owner] Craig Leipold on Wednesday night,” Nanne said. “I know Chuck Fletcher and Leipold really want Parise, and what Craig told me is how hard he’s going to go after him, and the kind of money he’s going after him [with] — I don’t see how Parise’s not coming here.

[I] can tell you this: No one is going to outbid the Wild. So if Parise goes somewhere else, you can bet he’s going for less money. What I said is, ‘the kind of money that they’re going to offer him, he might as well just come here and own the team and in his later years, win the Stanley Cup as an owner.”

[pastarocket]

@DarrenDreger: Canucks file "cutdown" arbitration on Mason Raymond. Q.O is $2.6 million. Salary can't drop more than to $2.21 million if Van wins arb case.

[kwy]

If I were Parise, I wouldn't want to live and play in Minnesota.

[spideyv2]

If I were Parise, I wouldn't want to live and play in Minnesota.

Why not? He was born there.

[PornMaster]

@DarrenDreger: Canucks file "cutdown" arbitration on Mason Raymond. Q.O is $2.6 million. Salary can't drop more than to $2.21 million if Van wins arb case.

The way raymond played last year he only deserves 1 mil

[Gumby]

I'm surprised they didn't just let Raymond walk!

[HonestTea]

I'm surprised they didn't just let Raymond walk!

+1

[kristianhay]

;7946235']to florida i think

Why? They already have Jacob Markström who they took in the first round a couple years back. He should be ready to make the jump sooner than later.

Also, I'm okay with Raymond as along as he's on the third line and people don't expect too much from him. If he gets a couple goals and is sound defensively, then that's fine with me. He sucked in comparison to his 25 goal season, but that was clearly the anomaly. People need to stop thinking he's going to get 25 goals again and settle for the player that he is.

[Tim Budong]

doesnt matter how shitty Raymond played last year,
one does not simply let a player "walk"

[JesseBlue]

for the qo that raymond will get, i'd rather trade away his rights...he's not worth the same value ($ wise) as burrows...

i still want to see both luongo and schneider tandem next year...

screw the leafs rumours...i want them to suck for a little while longer...until we win the cup...

[highfive]

David Jones and his 37 points can command $4 million vs Raymond $2.1 million and many skate down the wing stop and falls plus his 20 goals. Who would you take?

[murd0c]

Waka Flocka rocking a Johnny Canuck hat in his new video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjpgQUWKVx4

[b0unce. [?]]

too bad he probably has no idea what team that is, just like every black person who rocks a snapback. just goes with his outfit

[Tegra_Devil]

go flames go!

[mb_]

we need a new #1 line
i think a lot of teams have twins figured out by now

:rukidding:

Why? Because they're not physical? They're not speedy? They don't attract the same attention as Crosby and Ovechkin do?

[Hondaracer]

from here on in, EVERY team we play in the playoffs is going to play the Sedins as physical as possible, unless they can play an overall tougher game our window is closed, simple as that.

i dont care about the Corey/Lu shit, it's the Sedins and Kesler that drive the team, if they dont go we dont go anywhere

[dbaz]

current ufa list: 2012 NHL Free Agents | NHL Free Agents | 2012 NHL Free Agency (http://www.sportscity.com/nhl/2012-nhl-free-agents-unrestricted-listed-by-position/)

old rfa list: 2012 NHL Free Agents - Restricted by team | NHL Free Agents | 2012 NFL Restricted Free Agents | My NHL Trade Rumors.com (http://www.mynhltraderumors.com/2011/11/08/2012-nhl-free-agents-restricted-by-team/)

for the 2nd line: id be willing to overpay for ray whitney. id also try for parentau, hes a good playmaker but hes going to get a decent payday after he may have greatly benefited from tavares.
defence: garrison, mitchell, zanon would be the dmen to look at i think. mitchell probably re-signs with la though. if worst comes to worst i see gillis maybe looking at one of spacek/kuba/kubina
3rd/4th line: experience and grit.langenbruner, moen, arnott type player

[kristianhay]

Interesting.

CanucksTV: Gillis Interview (06.13.12) - YouTube

Couple rumors, JVR to Columbus a possibility: http://articles.philly.com/2012-06-12/news/32175599_1_van-riemsdyk-hip-surgery-trades

Preds to trade Suter's rights: http://www.thedetroitsportssite.com/2012/06/12/report-nashville-predators-will-trade-ryan-suters-rights/18845

[murd0c]

I'm just getting so excited. Is it July 1st yet?

[Gumby]

doesnt matter how shitty Raymond played last year,
one does not simply let a player "walk"
What I mean is - I'm surprised the Canucks are interested in re-signing Raymond at a price tag of $2.21 million.

[highfive]

If Raymond can score 20 goals or so. I be happy to keep him for $2.21 million. Put him as a third line guy who can step in on the first two lines if there's any injuries. Plus he played centre for a while before.

THAT or Gillis can always trade him.

[411ken]

Kinda off topic but I was Jus browsing our previous draftees and ran into Patrick white lol.. he's actually lighting it up in Germany LOL. 40gp. 32g 38a 70pts Haha.

[kristianhay]

I'm just getting so excited. Is it July 1st yet?

If you're talking about the draft, it's June 22/23 (next Fri/Sat).

[SumAznGuy]

If you're talking about the draft, it's June 22/23 (next Fri/Sat).

No, free agency starts on July 1.

[kristianhay]

^

Okay yeah! Just wasn't sure if he was talking about the draft or free agency.

[Hondaracer]

Expecting Raymond to score 20 goals as a third liner is a pipe dream..

And who knows if Booth is even a second liner

[Tim Budong]

I clearly did remember Gillis saying he has confidence Raymond will find his stride..

anyways
Patrick White..garbage for Ehrhoff

that is awesome
haha

[Not really racist!]

do want garisson in FA

[411ken]

I'm excited for draft day right now and see what happens. Will gillis be making any minor trades or blockbuster. Im so curious as to what will happen to Lu.. if anything happens at all

[Ronin]

Taking Raymond to arbitration tells me the Canucks are looking to trade him. Arbitration is a dirty, dirty affair. Even normal arbitration is mud-slinging fun where the team basically has to line out reasons why the player isn't worth as much as he thinks he is. No one wins most of the time as feelings are hurt and most of the time, one part or both wants a change.

This cutback arbitration must be even worse. Basically the Canucks are going to an independent arbitrator to tell them why Raymond isn't even worth the qualifying offer...not even the possibility that he makes only what he makes now. No, they went to the trouble of doing this all for the possibility of cutting Raymond's salary by about 10-15%.

If the Canucks just let Raymond walk, they get nothing and teams would probably have to pony up at least what he makes now to sign him. No guarantees that Raymond even signs with the Canucks but by taking him to arbitration, they lock in a contract and they increase Raymond's trade value by decreasing his cap hit. I expect Gillis to get a mid-round pick out of this. MayRay is still young and had a 25-goal season...some GM must see some value in him while we just see him fall down in the corners.

[tiger_handheld]

We need some good Canadian kids from Ontario and the Prairies.

[Renthal]

just for shits from the UFA list :troll:

Fabian Brunnstrom Detroit Red Wings 11-12 hit $600,000

Mikael Samuelsson Florida Panthers $2,500,000

Bryan Allen Carolina Hurricanes $2,900,000

Todd Bertuzzi Detroit Red Wings $1,937,500

Ryan Shannon Tampa Bay Lightning $625,000

lol...
Steve Bernier - 525,000

[DanHibiki]

bring back allen!

[Gh0stRider]

Ryan Suter’s wish list doesn’t include Flyers, Eastern Conference

According to a well-placed source, Suter has a potential list of clubs he would be willing to talk to even if his rights were traded before July 1. Suter is represented by Neil Sheehy.
Alas, the Flyers are not one of them.
In fact, the source said, all of Suter's preferred destinations, should he leave the Predators, are in the Western Conference — not the East. Detroit is generally conceded to be his top choice.
The Detroit Red Wings, of course, have a bit of a hole to fill on their blue line.

Ryan Suter (http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nhl-puck-daddy/ryan-suter-wish-list-doesn-t-flyers-eastern-185407356--nhl.html)

[6thGear.]

in for updates

[Mike Oxbig]

I hope suter and parise goes to minnisota fans over there deserves some star players

[MR_BIGGS]

This thread is off to a slow start, but should pick up by end of next week. Can't wait.

[Hondaracer]

Taking Raymond to arbitration tells me the Canucks are looking to trade him. Arbitration is a dirty, dirty affair. Even normal arbitration is mud-slinging fun where the team basically has to line out reasons why the player isn't worth as much as he thinks he is. No one wins most of the time as feelings are hurt and most of the time, one part or both wants a change.

This cutback arbitration must be even worse. Basically the Canucks are going to an independent arbitrator to tell them why Raymond isn't even worth the qualifying offer...not even the possibility that he makes only what he makes now. No, they went to the trouble of doing this all for the possibility of cutting Raymond's salary by about 10-15%.

If the Canucks just let Raymond walk, they get nothing and teams would probably have to pony up at least what he makes now to sign him. No guarantees that Raymond even signs with the Canucks but by taking him to arbitration, they lock in a contract and they increase Raymond's trade value by decreasing his cap hit. I expect Gillis to get a mid-round pick out of this. MayRay is still young and had a 25-goal season...some GM must see some value in him while we just see him fall down in the corners.

his stats say he isnt worth 2.4...

if he was awarded equal or more than that I think the Canucks would walk away, and i hope they would

Raymonds high point was 24 goals, a player like him who is also damaged goods is not what the Canucks need to get back to the finals, period.

the other problem with him is if he isnt in the top 6, can he play a physical or even energy role as a bottom 6? im not sure he could do that either

[kwy]

I hope suter and parise goes to minnisota fans over there deserves some star players


I don't. If Minnesota is in our division next year we would have to deal with them..

[AzNightmare]

Raymond definitely can't play a physical type game...

[GrapeDrink]

his stats say he isnt worth 2.4...

if he was awarded equal or more than that I think the Canucks would walk away, and i hope they would

Raymonds high point was 24 goals, a player like him who is also damaged goods is not what the Canucks need to get back to the finals, period.

the other problem with him is if he isnt in the top 6, can he play a physical or even energy role as a bottom 6? im not sure he could do that either

I don't really understand how the whole arbitration process works but from what I read from the vancouversun, Canucks lost their walkaway rights and have to accept whatever they give mayray because they filed it instead of the other way around.

[noots]

That's true. Unlike regular arbitration decisions, if the Canucks let it get that far, they will have to sign Raymond at that offer.

However they will still be able to trade him immediately after if they choose according to Dreger

[Vale46Rossi]

FUCK didn't make the early pages like last year!



Well I'm pretty excited. Gonna renew the season pass this year and ...


LETS GO CANUCKS !

[Ronin]

his stats say he isnt worth 2.4...

if he was awarded equal or more than that I think the Canucks would walk away, and i hope they would

Raymonds high point was 24 goals, a player like him who is also damaged goods is not what the Canucks need to get back to the finals, period.

the other problem with him is if he isnt in the top 6, can he play a physical or even energy role as a bottom 6? im not sure he could do that either

Canucks can't walk away from whatever the arbitrator awards Raymond. Guaranteed contract.

[Hondaracer]

Why? Because they offered him the downgraded salary? Many teams have walked away from arbitration awards

[7seven]

Why? Because they offered him the downgraded salary? Many teams have walked away from arbitration awards

Canucks cannot walk away because they are taking Raymond to arbitration. A team may only have the option to walk away from an arbitration ruling if the player elects for arbitration.

[Hondaracer]

Ahh, disappointing, want MayRay gone

[PornMaster]

who says a trade can't happen?

[Gumby]

...some GM must see some value in him (Mason Raymond) while we just see him fall down in the corners.
:lol

[highfive]

Ahh, disappointing, want MayRay gone

Believe in Gillis. If he can get Ehrhoff for Patrick White and Rahimi.

What can Raymond get you? :fullofwin: lol

[murd0c]

Believe in Gillis. If he can get Ehrhoff for Patrick White and Rahimi.

What can Raymond get you? :fullofwin: lol

21 year old Wanye Gretzky :troll:

[7seven]

I would honestly trade Raymond for $1.....for those of you old enough to remember, NHL used to allow these trades haha, Ray Sheppard and Kris Draper were both traded for $1

[b0unce. [?]]

Media Release: Aaron Volpatti has been re-signed to a one-year contract.

[highfive]

21 year old Wanye Gretzky :troll:


Or Weber...or Nash.... :troll:


In another news, Stephane Auger retired.

[Ronin]

Fuck Auger.

[TPMarko]

Believe in Gillis. If he can get Ehrhoff for Patrick White and Rahimi.

What can Raymond get you? :fullofwin: lol

those were different times. SJ was trying to free up some cap space to trade for heatley so they grabbed a couple of low pay prospects that they can put to the minors. raymond will make 2+ mil and probably have to clear waivers before you can send him down.

[7seven]

Tampa Bay Lightning ‏@TBLightning
Bolts acquire goaltender Anders Lindback and center Kyle Wilson from Nashville via trade. Details coming soon...

Guess thats 1 less potential destination for Lu

apparently its Lindback, K. Wilson, 7th to Tampa for 2 2nds, S. Caron and a 3rd

[rsx]

Good pick up for TB, Lindback's going to be solid

[Tim Budong]

Lindback is great
Its his time to shine away from Rinne

[kwy]

Agreed, he was fantastic against the Canucks when Rinne was pulled this season. Hopefully he becomes a sold starter.

[Gh0stRider]

The market for Columbus Blue Jackets winger Rick Nash is heating up ahead of next week's NHL Draft. According to the Columbus Dispatch, as many as seven teams have had 'significant discussions' with the club in the last 10 days about acquiring Nash.

The report adds that the New York Rangers, San Jose Sharks, Philadelphia Flyers, Toronto Maple Leafs and Carolina Hurricanes are among the teams that have expressed interest.

Report: Nash trade talks heating up ahead of NHL Draft (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398436)

[murd0c]

I was wondering how long it would take for the Nash talk to start up again.

[cliffhanger33]

Woooo off season soon!

[highfive]

Guess thats 1 less potential destination for Lu

apparently its Lindback, K. Wilson, 7th to Tampa for 2 2nds, S. Caron and a 3rd

If Lindback can you get 2 2nd Rounders and a 3rd...I really wonder what we can get with Schneider or Luongo.

[Not really racist!]

Well I guess Lu to Toronto is now 91% confirmed cause TB now has a potential starter

:troll:

[spideyv2]

@andystrickland

#Badgers‬ D-man and former ‪#Ducks‬ draft pick Justin Schultz is expected to sign with a Canadien club ‪#Leafs‬ ‪#Canucks‬ or ‪#Oilers‬

[murd0c]

Now that would be big a big pick up with we sign Schultz

[spideyv2]

My only concern with Schultz is that he's a rookie, and he's undersized

[kristianhay]

^

It's a free prospect (free in the sense of not having to trade for him), why would you be concerned?

Cox: Maple Leafs likely to pass on Rick Nash, pitch for Roberto Luongo


’Tis the season for statements of intent.

Remember this time last year? Almost exactly a year ago two trades shook the hockey world, deals that set the table for three franchises.

First Philadelphia GM Paul Holmgren dealt sniper Jeff Carter to the Columbus Blue Jackets for forward Jakub Voracek, a first-round pick in the draft a few days later and a third-rounder. That same day Holmgren swapped captain Mike Richards to Los Angeles for youngsters Brayden Schenn and Wayne Simmonds plus a second round selection.

Each team was making a statement about their perceived future.

Philly, while picking up Schenn, Simmonds and Voracek plus three picks, was looking to reset their team, get younger and clear cap room to sign goalie Ilya Bryzgalov a few days later.

In Columbus, getting Carter was a statement they were getting serious about both moving up the standings and making it clear to winger Rick Nash that there was reason to stay in Ohio. The Kings finally were looking to make a big leap forward after years of gathering assets through the draft.

Well a year later, it’s clear the champagne-soaked Kings ended up following through on their statement of intent most effectively, agreed?

Holmgren must squirmed a bit in Philly watching Richards and Carter lift the Stanley Cup while Bryzgalov went bust. In Columbus, GM Scott Howson no longer has Carter laying the groundwork to trade Nash and probably has next season to prove he’s up to the job.

Intent doesn’t always reap results.

Now with the Cup having been awarded and the draft set for next Friday in Pittsburgh, any number of teams are looking to send a strong message to the industry and their fans about the direction in which they are headed.

Expensive accomplished players like Patrick Kane, Nash, Jay Bouwmeester and Roberto Luongo are possibly available for trade. Ryan Suter and Zach Parise appear set to leave Nashville and New Jersey respectively as free agents. Teams are getting set to make moves lockout or no lockout ahead.

Which brings us to the Maple Leafs.

It’s an intriguing time for GM Brian Burke and his staff as they contemplate the future. The expectation among many is that Burke is plotting aggressive ways of making sure the Leafs don’t miss post-season play again next season eyeing a veteran goaltender (Luongo?) in search of quality veterans to bolster Dion Phaneuf and the leadership group in the Toronto dressing room and searching for ways to get the No. 1 pick in next week’s draft.

To do some, or all, of those things, Burke would have to prepared to sacrifice some, or many, of the young pieces that were either part of the Leaf organization when he arrived or that he himself has put in place.

Luke Schenn’s name is permanently attached to the rumour mill. Lots of teams would like Jake Gardiner. Nazem Kadri and his development have become a constant topic of debate.

Burke could move ’em all in an attempt to get help now and the chance to draft Nail Yakupov if the Leaf GM was so inclined.

But that makes little sense.

Before they made their move, the Kings spent eight years drafting players including nine picks in the top 15 of their draft years while compiling a treasure trove of young talent that either graduated to their team or was used to land other players.

Burke’s only had three drafts and one top 15 pick (Kadri). In the four drafts before Burke arrived the Leafs had two top 15 picks (Schenn and Jiri Tlusty).

There’s just not enough there yet even with some promising players with the Marlies to start aggressively thinking short-term like the Kings.

The likeliest scenario then is for something in between:

• A play for Luongo that might cost one good prospect.

• A mid-range NHL free agent.

• An aggressive bid for unsigned Anaheim blueline prospect Justin Schultz.

• No deal for Nash who may have scratched Toronto from his list of preferred destinations anyway.

• No move up from No. 5 in the draft and therefore ending up with a blue-chip youngster who will be back in junior or Europe next season.

The message? Staying the course no short-term fixes or at least none involving players who can only help for one or two years. Luongo, maybe, because he’s a long-term solution in the crease.

It would be a statement that the Leafs aren’t yet in the prospect-rich position L.A. was last summer but also that they believe enough in what they have put in place — Phaneuf as captain, Phil Kessel as the centrepiece up front — that a goaltending upgrade would make everything look better.

Is the steady-as-she-goes keep adding prospects message what some people want to hear? Burke can’t worry about that. Once he does he might as well buy another Harley and ride off into the sunset.

Cox: Maple Leafs likely to pass on Rick Nash, pitch for Roberto Luongo - thestar.com (http://www.thestar.com/sports/leafs/article/1211958--cox-maple-leafs-likely-to-pass-on-rick-nash-pitch-for-roberto-luongo)

[spideyv2]

^

It's a free prospect (free in the sense of not having to trade for him), why would you be concerned?

My bad. I meant I'd only be concerned if we slotted him into the top 4 right away.

[CRS]

Damien Cox

:fuckthatshit:

Also, with Schultz, its just money that we're spending so it isn't a big deal should it not work out.

[kristianhay]

Renaud P Lavoie ‏@RenLavoieRDS
What's going on with the Jets ? I hear from a player on Winnipeg that Kane doesn't want to negotiate a new deal ?

I just want draft day to come, all these rumors are too much haha.

[spoon.ek9]

Yeah, I'd rather read about some confirmed trades/signings than all these useless rumours.

[murd0c]

My only concern with Schultz is that he's a rookie, and he's undersized

The big thing about him is you don't have to give up anything for him. If it pans out fricken awesome and if he doesn't we tried and only lost money.

I think we should really go for him since we need a stronger blue line.

Any word on Salo yet?

[spideyv2]

The big thing about him is you don't have to give up anything for him. If it pans out fricken awesome and if he doesn't we tried and only lost money.

I think we should really go for him since we need a stronger blue line.

Any word on Salo yet?

His daughter, Julia, said he was planning on retiring. A lot of people are writing on her wall saying things like "I wish we coulda hung out before you left" "have fun, i'll come visit you some day" etc etc. Take it for what it's worth, I guess lol

[murd0c]

If thats the case shitty deal but at least his last season he didn't really have any large injuries.

[spoon.ek9]

Yeah lol. Salo was one hell of a defenseman at $2mil/yr this season. He also made it through the clipping incident from that fucking rat Marchand. Tons of respect for Salo :thumbsup:

[dbaz]

fuck schultz im more stoked about connauhton. kid has been improving by leaps and bounds.

[Tim Budong]

http://l.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Hl8RtoqXM0z5RVI8ScgBwg--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/2012_fourthround.gif

[spideyv2]

Watching bruins vs canucks game 7 replay on espn classics. We didn't play that bad, thomas and the bruins d were too solid. The bounces didnt go our way either.

[Not really racist!]

:speechless::inout:

Watching bruins vs canucks game 7 replay on espn classics. We didn't play that bad, thomas and the bruins d were too solid. The bounces didnt go our way either.

[spideyv2]

:troll:

[GrapeDrink]

The market for Columbus Blue Jackets winger Rick Nash is heating up ahead of next week's NHL Draft. According to the Columbus Dispatch, as many as seven teams have had 'significant discussions' with the club in the last 10 days about acquiring Nash.

The report adds that the New York Rangers, San Jose Sharks, Philadelphia Flyers, Toronto Maple Leafs and Carolina Hurricanes are among the teams that have expressed interest.

Report: Nash trade talks heating up ahead of NHL Draft (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398436)

lol I really don't think SJ is going to land Nash, it was already reported that Doug Wilson declined a Nash for Couture trade, I assume that hasn't changed. Then its most likely Pavelski + which I think would be a huge mistake given that pavelski ranked among the top of the league defensively and put up 60 points, and I assume Doug Wilson knows this as well lol. After that we have no prospects of value to offer and our pick is pretty low.

[Vale46Rossi]

Watching bruins vs canucks game 7 replay on espn classics. We didn't play that bad, thomas and the bruins d were too solid. The bounces didnt go our way either.


I watched this 3 times this week...


Vancouver Canucks 2011- 2012 Season in 8 Minutes - YouTube


:(

[spoon.ek9]

tingles up and down my spine watching that video.. i miss coho, kassian better deliver this season.

[dlo]

I actually talked to kane this week and he said he doesn't mind playing in winnipeg but the change from alanta to winnipeg was really big and somewhat disappointing. Different weather/people but closer to home I suppose, his sister got accepted in university at alanta too so it was a fuss

[murd0c]

Shes not naked with the cup yet but hopefully she will be soon

http://img268.imageshack.us/img268/5012/b50099aab68511e1b001123.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/268/b50099aab68511e1b001123.jpg/)

[punkwax]

She hasnt been caught naked with the cup yet but hopefully she will be soon

Fixed.

[Hondaracer]

she's gross

[604778]

I watched this 3 times this week...


Vancouver Canucks 2011- 2012 Season in 8 Minutes - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi1yJOCaP30)


:(

oh i miss watching Canucks hockey.

[spideyv2]

Pahlsson has signed with MODO according to some swedish newspaper

[spideyv2]

And I wood plough paulina, like a farmer

[cliffhanger33]

moar pics

http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a0115709f071f970b0167678f4332970b-800wi

http://static03.mediaite.com/sportsgrid/uploads/2012/06/PG4.jpg

[mickz]

Believe in Gillis. If he can get Ehrhoff for Patrick White and Rahimi.

What can Raymond get you? :fullofwin: lol

Gillis wouldn't have been able to swing that deal if SJ knew what they were doing cap-wise before acquiring Dany Heatley.

[spideyv2]

Paulina's tits look like flap jacks

Still would smash doe

[punkwax]

Paulina's tits look like flap jacks

Still would smash doe

I'd throw some syrup on 'em.

[trancehead]

And I wood plough paulina, like a farmer

moar pics

http://mt.nesn.com/.a/6a0115709f071f970b0167678f4332970b-800wi

http://static03.mediaite.com/sportsgrid/uploads/2012/06/PG4.jpg

i wood plough until corn grew

[Ludepower]

she's gross

typical keyboard warrior reply

[Durrann]

Sami paulhsson is heading to modo
Canucks looking for another centre
(according to news1130)

[MR_BIGGS]

Everyone is looking for a centre. Finally we will start seeing some moves this week with the draft on Friday. Slow news day in hockey so far though :(

[7seven]

Looking like Radulov will be cashing in, rumor is CSKA will be making Rads the highest paid hockey player in the world, $12mil per

TVA sports | Radulov en Russie? (http://tvasports.ca/tvasports/hockey/archives/2012/06/20120618-074900.html)

Google translate

The Nashville Predators forward Alexander Radulov has decided to return to Russia to continue his career in the Continental Hockey League (KHL). His agent, Yuri Nikolaev, made ​​the announcement in the Russian daily Izvestiya on Monday. Last week, the formation of CSKA Moscow had acquired the rights of the talented forward. CSKA, including former NHL player Sergei Fedorov is the general manager, would have made ​​a significant financial compensation for Ufa Salavat Yulaev for Radulov. The most persistent rumors suggest that Radulov could become the highest paid hockey player in the world, an annual income of over $ 12 million. Radulov Predators Joined in March, but general manager David Poile said a few days ago that he was not interested in keeping its services for the next campaign. Russian 25 years has amassed seven points in nine games with the Predators last season. In the playoffs, he added six points in eight games.

[Hondaracer]

typical keyboard warrior reply

You like getting BJ's from Wayne?

It might be a typical keyboard warrior reply but I can say that I've fucked wayyy hotter girls than her back in the days of working in the club

Not to say I wouldn't smash but I do not find her an attractive person whatsoever

[Gh0stRider]

Jaromír Jágr plans to test free agency this off-season

[mb_]

Get it done MG! :fullofwin:

[Gh0stRider]

@News1130Sports: CKWX the 1st to report - the #Canucks have qualified the contract of goalie Cory Schneider - moments ago.
@News1130Sports: Just talked to potential #Canucks u-f-a Byron Bitz who says no contact with the Canucks.
@News1130Sports: #Canucks have also just qualified the contract of forward Dale Weise. Agent Allain Roy just confirmed.

[murd0c]

I really wonder what they qualified Schneider at

[clowe]

$945,000, because he made between 660k-1m, a 5% raise is required to qualify him. It doesn't really mean anything, it's simply just to retain his rights.

[spideyv2]

Lack has also been qualified

[Hondaracer]

Bitz is gone, not worth the headaches

[highfive]

I know it's Kyper but take it with a grain of salt..

@RealKyper: #Canucks telling few #NHL interested teams they have multi offers on Luongo. Gillis still looking for a hockey trade rather than dump salary

[kristianhay]

@anguscertified
#canucks have tried numerous times RT @TEAM1200Ottawa: According to rumors out of NY, the Rangers are shopping Brandon Dubinsky aggressively

Also, with draft day fast approaching, is anyone else just a little sad at the prospect of losing Lu? Haha, he's been here a while for us and I've always supported him.

[punkwax]

What I think is sad is the amount of fans who want to run the Canucks' first ever elite goaltender out of town. That's what is sad if you ask me.

[highfive]

What I think is sad is the amount of bandwagon fans who want to run the Canucks' first ever elite goaltender out of town. That's what is sad if you ask me.

Fixed. True Canucks fans who lived through the times of Weeks, Burke, Essensa, Potvin Cloutier, Skudra, Hedberg, Norenen, Brochu etc would never run him out of town.

It's just that how good the team is right now. We have two quality goalies who can provide elite goaltending for us in the playoffs.

Trading Luongo would make our goalie position 7 years younger allowing the team to extend its window of opportunity longer. It would probably reduce our cap hit in goal. It would bring back (assuming it's a hockey trade) a veteran player to help us.

The only pro I see in trading Schneider is us getting more in return.

[Not really racist!]

Hopefully Schnieds doesn't shit the bed though.. cause all hell is gonna break loose if that happens

[cliffhanger33]

Hopefully Schnieds doesn't shit the bed though.. cause all hell is gonna break loose if that happens

We've seen him handle game 4 and 5 against LA. He was composed. Just hope he maintains that, despite the enormous pressure here in Van.

[cliffhanger33]

Following Paulina on Instagram, dayummmm :megusta:

[UFO]

Trading Luongo would make our goalie position 7 years younger allowing the team to extend its window of opportunity longer. It would probably reduce our cap hit in goal. It would bring back (assuming it's a hockey trade) a veteran player to help us.


Agree on getting younger, but you also lose several years of 'prime' experience in doing so. Sure Schneider was on the bench during the 2011 run, but its not the same as having actually played the run. And I'm not sure how many more years our current window has, maybe as little as one or two. Our core players will still be good solid players after that, but they likely will fall out of the elite league. Our elite prospect pool is a bit thin, there are no real heirs to the Sedins in the works. Our future is with Zach Kassian, and while I like his potential, its just that for the next 1-3 years.

To play devil's advocate, Schneider is probably worth ~3.5M cap hit. Lu's cap hit was 5.3M. The 1.8M saved doesn't even get you Mason Raymond... And this is assuming that we don't have to pick up a veteran to back up CS, I'm not entirely convinced he can take on a full season's workload 60-70 games without some experienced guidance nor is it entirely wise to use up one of your window years relying on a fresh starting goalie with 60 NHL games experience and a rookie for a backup.

[Tim Budong]

http://canucksarmy.com/uploads/Image/tumblr_m5mxlm9ecD1r0xu6to1_1280.jpg

[Hondaracer]

nah boooooo Lu like everyone else did all the time before

[kwy]

^Uh, wut

[cliffhanger33]

nah boooooo Lu like everyone else did all the time before

?

[OGCStrike]

he probably thinks the "LUUUU"ing is booo'ing. :suspicious:

[mb_]

To be honest, I do think Schneider is a more than capable starting goaltender but we don't really know how well he'll work out long term if we do ship Luongo out.

[Mike Oxbig]

I rather have canucks 1 cup with luongo than multiple without luongo and sedins.

[Tim Budong]

I rather have canucks 1 cup with luongo than multiple without luongo and sedins.

Is this because last year?
I can understand this

I really wanted to celebrate a Canucks win before hitting 30. Party it up like no tomorrow

[kwy]

Sedins deserve a cup before they retire

[Vale46Rossi]

I want 1 cup with our line up last year or this year.

Lappy, Bieksa, Burrows, Kes, Luu, Sedins Malhotra, they deserve it!

Many others I didn't name either love the lineup

[DanHibiki]

I rather have canucks 1 cup with luongo than multiple without luongo and sedins.

Lol I felt this way about Linden...then Naslund, Mo and Ohlund, and now this.

I learned that we'll always be in love with our star players so it really doesn't matter who we win it with.

[Mike Oxbig]

No. I want Luongo to win a cup in Vancouver so all the Luu haters can suck it!

http://i1085.photobucket.com/albums/j440/Marc_Oxenreider/1303823ble5fhlxob.gif

[Verdasco]

Haters? More like bandwagoners loving luu :troll:

[Vansterdam]

Luuuuuuuuuuu

[7seven]

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Just chatted about the Pavelec negotiation in Wpg with @simmonssteve + @MikeRichardsTSN. Teams in need of a goalie should be paying attn.

Darren Dreger ‏@DarrenDreger
Pavelec is pending RFA with a big $ offer from KHL. It will take $4mil\multi years to keep him in NHL. Pay or trade him...Jets only options.

Jets have to be nuts to let Pavs walk over $4mil/yr. He's worth that money, a good young starting goalie.

If Jets do decide to shop him over $4mil per, you can bet there will be teams interested, could affect the market for Lu

[MR_BIGGS]

That is unfortunate for the Jets. First Kane rumblings that he won't re-sign and now Pavelec potentially going to KHL or being traded if they don't offer 4 per.

I agree that Pavalec is a good young goalie. Looks like Winterpeg is facing the same type of things Edmonton does, with getting players to sign.

[highfive]

That is unfortunate for the Jets. First Kane rumblings that he won't re-sign and now Pavelec potentially going to KHL or being traded if they don't offer 4 per.

I agree that Pavalec is a good young goalie. Looks like Winterpeg is facing the same type of things Edmonton does, with getting players to sign.

I don't think so. KHL is the one finding it hard to get players to sign. They have to overpay for so many players just to move over from the NHL.

Aside from the Kane rumours, I think most players are excited to play in Winnipeg. I remember almost every player on the team talks about how crazy the fans are etc. And Ladd taking leadership and talked to management last season.

[b0unce. [?]]

Jets have to be nuts to let Pavs walk over $4mil/yr. He's worth that money, a good young starting goalie.

If Jets do decide to shop him over $4mil per, you can bet there will be teams interested, could affect the market for Lu

Agreed. 4mil a year is worth paying. Seeing as how much other players are getting, 4 mil doesn't seem that bad if they can make it a multi-year contract.

[MR_BIGGS]

I don't think so. KHL is the one finding it hard to get players to sign. They have to overpay for so many players just to move over from the NHL.

Aside from the Kane rumours, I think most players are excited to play in Winnipeg. I remember almost every player on the team talks about how crazy the fans are etc. And Ladd taking leadership and talked to management last season.

But the issue isn't overpaying for the KHL. Players want to play in the best league in the world, and that's the NHL. Yes they are giving shitloads of money to players, but they have money to throw around.

I'm not sold yet that players are excited to play in Winnipeg. Of course they are going to say that in the first season there, and with such passionate fans, they will provide that lip service. Let's see how many players re-sign there. I guess it comes down to winning, and if they continue to have losing seasons, it will be tough to sign good quality players.

Kane is a core player, and if he goes, that puts a negative image on Winnipeg. Players talk to each other, and if they don't have good things to say about a city, it really prevents the team from signing free agents.

Kane has taken a lot of flack from the media and public in Winnipeg. The picture below was tweeted as a shot at him for never paying at restaurants.

12080

I guess you have to earn it, Like Luongo did. Did Luu ever pay for a bill in VanCity?

[Vale46Rossi]

^


I don't think LU would walk out on a bill. He is a down to earth guy and super nice.

I saw him @ Broadway Mercedes once and talked to him, he didnt mind signing some stuff and taking a picture with me.

He was in flipflops and hat. He even tried to tip the service advisers.

[Mike Oxbig]

LUUUUUU

watch Schneider package for a young D whos ready to play or a top six winger with immediate impact :troll:

[Tim Budong]

LUUUUUU

watch Schneider package for a young D whos ready to play or a top six winger with immediate impact :troll:

it wouldnt surprise me

[AzNightmare]

Damn, that's disgusting.
How do pro athletes who make so much still walk out on bills that cost them their chump change.
Who do these guys think they are?

That's partially why I never get excited nor care about autograph signings or meeting players, etc.
I know not all of them are douches and a lot of them are down to earth and nice people,
but they really don't need me to help put them on an even higher "pedestal" that everyone else already set up for them.

Sure I cheer my heart out for them in the game. But off the ice, they are just any other person to me.

[7seven]

Yea Evander and Ashley have a pretty bad rep going around from a lot of bars, restaurants and businesses that have delt with the pair before. The rumblings about Evander preferring to play elsewhere aren't really that surprising.

Another thing you have to keep in mind, is yea most players will publicly say oh they love the fans in Winnipeg and love playing there, but talk to them privately or get to know them, total opposite from my experience.

[MR_BIGGS]

It also comes down to winning, depending where you are in your career. If Edmonton ends up being like a Pittsburgh in a few years, they shouldn't have a problem sighing guys to short term deals that want to win. Hell Jagr to Etown rumours have been getting some play (highly unlikely).

[punkwax]

Winnipeg sucks. A lot of egotistical brats would have a real tough time playing there.

As for Jagr, I really don't see him moving out of the Eastern Conference. Considering his age and the fact that he could pretty much hand pick a team to play for, he's been around long enough to understand the rigours of travel for Western teams. He'll likely opt for a team with limited travel and good chances of winning a cup.. kinda like Philly lol.

[7seven]

Bob McKenzie ‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
Hearing ANA's Bobby Ryan is "available" again after being taken off trade market after Randy Carlyle's Duck departure.

Here we go again, you know Burkie will be all over this again

[RiceIntegraRS]

Im really hoping this season MG decides to get a top-tier forward. Someone that is a proven scorer. I honestly could care less what the 4th line looks like atm, cause in the end. That 4th line aint playing more than 8 mins a game anyways. Look what the Kings did, they added 2 All-star forwards to there lineup in Richards and Carter and we all know what happened.

Parise, Ryan , and Nash are at the top of my wishlists. But Parise may come free. Id be happy with Semin, Doan or Jokinen aswell.

[MR_BIGGS]

Reading the following Holik on Hockey blog post by BobbyK, can't help by feel he hit the nail on the head:

Trading Roberto Luongo | Bobby Holik - Holik on Hockey (http://holikonhockey.com/bobby-blog/trading-roberto-luongo/)

Trading Roberto Luongo
June 19th, 2012 | posted by BobbyK

Roberto Luongo is likely to be traded in the coming days, and it will close the book on a turbulent time for both Luongo and the Vancouver Canucks.

I must admit, I am not a huge fan of Luongo. I did not like the way he handled himself in the 2011 Stanley Cup Final, and his poor choices of words during press conferences.

Luongo is a very good goalie, and he will probably achieve greatness before his career wraps up. He has always been athletic for his size and has made adjustments to his game during his career to keep up with the game. This is not easy to do, especially for goaltenders. He reached the pinnacle of his career during the span between winning the Gold Medal for Team Canada in 2010 and bringing his team to the Stanley Cup Final in 2011.

Despite his aforementioned off-ice moments, he has not gotten the credit he deserved for bringing his team to a game seven. The lack of credit he has gotten says a lot about what kind of market Vancouver is. Vancouver’s media and fans put unreasonable expectations on some of their payers, which is to be expected, because they have never won a Stanley Cup in their history. They are desperate for success, demand perfection, and this has hurt Luongo’s ability to provide consistently great goaltending.

Hopefully for Luongo’s and his new team’s sake, he is traded to a smaller market where he can just focus on playing the game. Watching Luongo, it seems getting away from the game on his time off would be optimum for his play. In cities like Vancouver, or any other in Canada, there are no off days.

It is quite a feat to thrive in such big cities, like Mats Sundin (and many others) have done. Any Player can adjust physical aspects of their game. They can change their training, diets, or other routines. However, you cannot change the personality, and often the mind is more important in this business than the body. Teams need to make a personality evaluation when trading for a player, and players need to know what towns they are most likely to thrive in.

If I was Luongo, I would stay about as far away from Toronto as I could. I could not understand why he would want to go play in a bigger fishbowl than Vancouver. If the Vancouver media was tough to deal with, Toronto’s would eat him alive. Also, why would Luongo want to go play for a rebuilding, identity-less team with a new coach at this stage of his career?

The biggest winner in the Luongo trade will be the Canucks. They will rid themselves of his massive contract, a goalie who could not get it done when it mattered the most, and open the door for Corey Schneider. Although Schneider has yet to be tested as a starter in Vancouver, the Canucks play has improved with him in the net.

I always look to free agency with interest to see how the map of power changes amongst the teams. Ryan Suter and Zach Parise are homegrown core players, whose teams would love to keep as integral parts of their organizations. Luongo is not a homegrown Canuck, and soon, they will have a goalie who will be, Corey Schneider.

[Gumby]

Brings back memories...

https://p.twimg.com/AvySKB0CEAAEjt9.jpg

[Tim Budong]

Karlsson inks 7 years with the sens at 6.5m/per totalling 45.5 mil

http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398747

[Gh0stRider]

damn Erik Karlsson

[highfive]

$6.5 million is not bad when Doughty is signed for $7 million?

Wonder how this will affect Edler's contract next season.

[pastarocket]

Bobby Ryan would be look good in a Canucks uniform. Another tweet by the TSN insider McKenzie:

@TSNBobMcKenzie

If ANA moves Ryan I suspect it would be for two or three building block pieces that would increase organizational depth but not payroll.

Ducks forward Ryan may be on trade market again (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398745)

-similar salary cap hit between Ryan and Luongo.

[PornMaster]

Edler can not be compared to those 2 lol

[jeedee]

-similar salary cap hit between Ryan and Luongo.

If you're trying to imply a Luongo/Ryan swap--it's not happening.

Ducks already have Hiller.

[Tim Budong]

Ducks have a bit of financial issues... would be a big dump with assets coming back

[Hondaracer]

Brings back memories...

https://p.twimg.com/AvySKB0CEAAEjt9.jpg

oh look, a couple guys who didnt win cups either

:ilied:

[spideyv2]

If you're trying to imply a Luongo/Ryan swap--it's not happening.

Ducks already have Hiller.

Rofl. The idea of that trade is retarded, but get er done MG!!!!!

[RiceIntegraRS]

I wanna see some 3 way trades. Seems like teams that need goalies dont have anything to offer us, and teams that have players we want, need defencemen

To Vancouver
Bobby Ryan and Plug

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo and Mason Raymond

To Anahiem
Jake Gardiner and Pick

One can only hope......

[jeedee]

I actually think that's a pretty good 3 way trade that's fair and benefits all 3 teams.

Still a pipedream :okay:

[Hondaracer]

Raymond is at the lowest point in value of his career he isn't worth any actual value in a trade

[Greenstoner]

Refer to last page about Kane walking out on a bill, I think it's because he's black :troll: the mentality kicked in

[Gilgamesh]

I wanna see some 3 way trades. Seems like teams that need goalies dont have anything to offer us, and teams that have players we want, need defencemen

To Vancouver
Bobby Ryan and Plug

To Toronto
Roberto Luongo and Mason Raymond

To Anahiem
Jake Gardiner and Pick

One can only hope......

Jake Gardiner was traded from Anaheim to Toronto. Anaheim is content with their D situation and can just draft one with their pick. They also recently signed a goalie from the SEL...fasth?

[Mike Oxbig]

gardiner will not be moved as long as burke is the GM of the leafs

[Tim Budong]

for anyone that gives a crap
awards is tonight

[kristianhay]

Canucks' prospect Jensen either plays in NHL or jets to Sweden (http://www.theprovince.com/sports/Canucks+prospect+Jensen+either+plays+jets+Sweden/6813306/story.html)

Canucks' top prospect Nicklas Jensen will either play in Sweden or in the NHL next season and has closed the door on returning to the OHL Oshawa Generals, his agent said on Wednesday.

A variety of factors played into the decision, said Anton Thun, but chief amongst them was the belief that Jensen, 19 – a Canucks first round pick (29th overall) a year ago – needs to play professional hockey next season. An agreement with Canadian major junior hockey prevents 19-year-old players from playing for NHL clubs' minor league teams.

“If he's not playing with the Canucks, he's going to be in Sweden,” said Thun. “That's the best course for his development. In Sweden, he'll face a better level of competition.”

Although Jensen, a 6-foot-3, 200-pound winger, had an impressive training camp and preseason with the Canucks last year, he's still a long-shot to make the NHL club in the fall.

Thun said he is talking to “three or four” teams in the Swedish Elite League – Sweden's top professional league – to place Jensen there on a one-year deal. Thun said Jensen will train with his Swedish club in August and then be released to attend Canucks training camp in September. Of course, with a new NHL's collective bargaining agreement very much up in the air, it remains to be seen if training camps are held as usually scheduled.

If Jensen were to stick with Vancouver, he would have an out-clause from the Swedish contract, the agent said.

Thun also said that Jensen made a quick recovery from the concussion he suffered in the playoffs with the Chicago Wolves and has had no issues.

Jensen, a native of Denmark, had 25 goals and 58 points in 57 games last season, his second in Oshawa.

Read more: Canucks' prospect Jensen either plays in NHL or jets to Sweden (http://www.theprovince.com/business/Canucks+prospect+Jensen+either+plays+jets+Sweden/6813306/story.html#ixzz1yMXA85cw)

What do you guys think his shot is at making the squad? I say pretty slim but you never know - I do agree that playing another year in the OHL will do little for his development.

Gillis was on the Team 1040 today, stated they had qualified MAG.

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040
Gillis on Jensen: It's his decision to do that (Sweden).We think he has a chance to be a bigtime player. Really pleased with his development

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040
RT @blakeprice1040: Gillis confirms they'll try and get Jensen to Swedish League if NHL not appropriate for him.. Not AHL eligible yet....

[spideyv2]

That AHL/CHL rule is fucking retarded. I understand the CHL needs to make money, but at the cost of a prospects development? GTFO

[highfive]

Seeing Jensen play last year in the preseason. I would not be surprised if he makes the team next season.

[kristianhay]

TEAM Radio ‏@TEAM1040
Schneider’s agent, Mike Liut to ESPN: "They’d like to get Cory signed, Cory would like to sign in Vancouver." Rumblings: Trade talk is heating up - Cross Checks Blog - ESPN (http://ow.ly/bIsX1)

The next couple of days will be very interesting.

http://www.teamradio.ca/news/gillis-on-draft-luongo-jensen-and-free-agency/

[b0unce. [?]]

im crossing my fingers hoping both will stay

[Mike Oxbig]

dont mind cory being traded if we get some help right away and being the team to be for 2012-2013

pens
kings
canucks

are top 3 chosen to win the cup next season

[Tim Budong]

ummm
yea...
im watching this right now
LOL

http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/7a59f548bb2711e1aebc1231381b647a_7.jpg

[murd0c]

waiting for Hondaracer saying shes ugly and wouldn't hit it :troll:

[Vansterdam]

lol would be funny if luongo was trolling us all

would be preety shocking if both stayed next year

[Tim Budong]

ummm
if Strombone1 is Luongo, he's trolled everyone perfectly

but somehow, I believe its Juice running the show

[MR_BIGGS]

waiting for Hondaracer saying shes ugly and wouldn't hit it :troll:

She is ugly though...nice body though...so yes, I guess I would smash it.:derp:

[DanHibiki]

Can anyone tell me how this whole strombone1 thing started? did he just show up and say "hey everyone, i may or may not be luongo! follow me!"

How did he get everyone to consider his identity?

[kristianhay]

Spector's Hockey
‏@SpectorsHockey
TSN insider Darren Dreger reports Panthers have limited interest in Luongo (salary issues), no meaningful negotiations. Ditto with Leafs.

The plot thickens.

[Tim Budong]

read this dan
Who the heck is Herb Bagel? Is Roberto Luongo on Twitter? PITB investigates (http://vansunsportsblogs.com/2012/02/23/who-the-heck-is-herb-bagel-is-roberto-luongo-on-twitter-pitb-investigates/)

[Tim Budong]

Mac Pac over Alfie for the masterdon

what a joke

[civicyvr]

Haven't been active here since the Nucks were ousted but at least made some money on LA winning.

Let's hope MG have some good news for us.

[civicyvr]

ummm
yea...
im watching this right now
LOL

http://distilleryimage9.s3.amazonaws.com/7a59f548bb2711e1aebc1231381b647a_7.jpg

waiting for Hondaracer saying shes ugly and wouldn't hit it :troll:

Well, she does look like a double bagger. One for her and one for Hondaracer. :fullofwin:

[Expresso]

Can anyone tell me how this whole strombone1 thing started? did he just show up and say "hey everyone, i may or may not be luongo! follow me!"

How did he get everyone to consider his identity?

The other thing was he's been able to get fellow Canuck players to follow him on Twitter as well.

I'm thinking along darth too, I can't see Lu being this funny.

[Hondaracer]

is that chick suppose to be somone or somthing

[Tim Budong]

Go to vegas they said
Join the Cirque they said..
haha
Jordan Eberle looks hilarious

http://l2.yimg.com/bt/api/res/1.2/Due3JKpkWcQt2znxieLMJA--/YXBwaWQ9eW5ld3M7cT04NTt3PTYzMA--/http://media.zenfs.com/en/blogs/sptusnhlexperts/OILELELELEE.jpg

[cliffhanger33]

LOL at the Shanahan parody videos

[cliffhanger33]

Malkin with Hart and Ted Lindsay

[Vansterdam]

claude giroux to be on the cover of ea sports nhl 13

Giroux beat Nashville Predators goalie Pekka Rinne in the final of the first ever NHL Cover Vote campaign by less than a one percent margin, in what was the closest matchup of the entire campaign.

[invader]

;7953116']im crossing my fingers hoping both will stay

Unlikely

[DanHibiki]

I'm surprised Pekka Rinne even made it that far

[pastarocket]

Congrats to Evgeni Malkin for winning the Hart Trophy, the Art Ross trophy, and Ted Lindsay Award at the NHL Awards show.

-dominant, big centre with great skill. A player that you would like to have on your team, or hockey pool roster.

Penguins' Malkin wins Hart Trophy, Ted Lindsay Award (http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/story/?id=398848)

[cliffhanger33]

Lundqvist with the Vezina, bergeron with the selke

[Kilinim]

Damn Patrice Bergeron's gf is smokin'

[kwy]

http://www.playerwives.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/ap.jpg

[AzNightmare]

dont mind cory being traded if we get some help right away and being the team to be for 2012-2013

pens
kings
canucks

are top 3 chosen to win the cup next season

chosen by who?
I don't see how Canucks are considered top 3 right now.
The 2012 team was much weaker on paper and on ice compared to their 2011 team,
and I'm not quite picturing them returning to their 2011 form next season.

Maybe if Canucks can get an immediate impact player from their goalie trade to play with Kesler.