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Not really racist!
03-08-2013, 09:03 PM
Hey troll.speak only when spoken to. Lol

anything coming from you is garbage

Tim Budong
03-08-2013, 09:04 PM
pretty happy that even with the hawks losing big

Seabrook and Keith combine for -2
its a good thing, becuz i have both of them in my big pool

UFO
03-08-2013, 09:50 PM
You guys thinking Ehrhoff's lifelong contract should have been matched by MG are crazy, almost as crazy as those who think we should have matched what Tampa threw at Salo for 2 years. This is the same MG who refused Hank and Dank super long term contracts which would have seen them retire as Canucks because at that point in their careers they hadn't earned the lifelong contract yet.

RiceIntegraRS
03-09-2013, 12:25 AM
^We shouldnt of had to match Buffalos contract offer. Ehrhoff should of been signed before he became a FA. MG offered him Bieksa type money, but Ehrhoff was looking for alil bit more. MG stood firm and Ehrhoff left. In the end hockey wise, both sides lost. But obviously Ehrhoff is laughing alll the way to the bank.

Ive always been a MG supporter but some of the non re-signings hes made left me scratching my head. Obviously hes made moves to help fill the void, but hasnt panned out as well as we hoped.

Not really racist!
03-09-2013, 10:11 AM
So apparently Matt Hackett is gonna be starting tomorrow..

AHL goalie....heh.. we'll see how it goes

edit:
if the Wild beat the Preds today and us tomorrow (in regulation) we'll drop down to the 9th seed hypothetically

Gh0stRider
03-09-2013, 01:52 PM
scott gomez scores his 2nd goal...hah whats goin on?

UFO
03-09-2013, 02:53 PM
edit:
if the Wild beat the Preds today and us tomorrow (in regulation) we'll drop down to the 9th seed hypothetically

We're only halfway through the season, don't worry too much about the standings right now. Not to say the Canucks can slack off, but as fans, no need to hit the panic button. As LA showed last year you only need to get into the playoffs.

There are only 4 points separating 3rd through 11th place as of right now, so a couple game swing by any team can make a huge difference in standings.

E60_M5
03-09-2013, 02:54 PM
Schneider gets the start for us tomorrow.

Not really racist!
03-09-2013, 03:54 PM
We're only halfway through the season, don't worry too much about the standings right now. Not to say the Canucks can slack off, but as fans, no need to hit the panic button. As LA showed last year you only need to get into the playoffs.

There are only 4 points separating 3rd through 11th place as of right now, so a couple game swing by any team can make a huge difference in standings.

lol everybody in this thread thinks im panicking when im just stating facts through all my posts

i rather we just drop down to 9th so AV is forced to make some adjustments

Not really racist!
03-09-2013, 04:04 PM
lets just not forget the past two seasons only the NW division winner made it into the playoffs

RRxtar
03-09-2013, 04:05 PM
We're only halfway through the season, don't worry too much about the standings right now. Not to say the Canucks can slack off, but as fans, no need to hit the panic button. As LA showed last year you only need to get into the playoffs.

There are only 4 points separating 3rd through 11th place as of right now, so a couple game swing by any team can make a huge difference in standings.
"we're only half way thru the season" is bullshit. we're a little over a month from the end of the season. we're in that push for the playoffs drive now. if the season started on time, wed be like 80% done the season at this point.

and a couple of games swing with only 4 points separating a division win from missing the playoffs goes both ways and is even more of a big deal when the canucks are trending towards losing games against teams they are fighting for playoff spots against.

the canucks are playing like garbage and not winning games. turning this kind of play around doesnt take 2 games, if they are going to turn it around and make a push to build some confidence and momentum it has to happen in the next handful of games.

LA was out of the playoffs at this point last year and got into the playoffs by putting it all together when it counts, and continuing that momentum with the whole team gelling.

spideyv2
03-09-2013, 04:53 PM
Lol the posts in this thread are either overly positive or negative.

That halfway through the season shit doesn't apply to your team when they've been playing like ass for over a calendar year
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Foralark
03-09-2013, 04:59 PM
lol

Mike Oxbig
03-09-2013, 05:42 PM
Leafs looks legit.

Time to tune in and watch them every saturday 4pm :D

cliffhanger33
03-09-2013, 05:47 PM
i hate to say this but TOR is looking good

CRS
03-09-2013, 06:20 PM
Leafs are a good example of what a new coach can do.

I've always been a big fan of Carlyle.

604778
03-09-2013, 09:41 PM
Vancouver Canucks Sued by Italian Sports Psychologist Hired After Stanley Cup Loss to Bruins by Dan Duquette Jr. on Sat, Mar 9, 2013 at 5:31PM Comments (4) inShare

It has been said that the Bruins got inside Roberto Luongo‘s head during the 2011 Stanley Cup Final. It appears that to some extent, one of the owners of the Vancouver Canucks agrees — and those mind games are now headed to the courts. According to Italian sports psychologist Bruno Demichelis, Canucks co-owner Francesco Aquilini hired him away from soccer club Chelsea after Vancouver’s loss to Boston because “he was very concerned about the physical and psychological condition of the Canucks players, and the negative impact it had on their performance in the Stanley Cup final.” Now, Demichelis is suing the team for wrongful dismissal and breach of contract after he was fired during the NHL lockout. According to The Canadian Press, Demichelis is suffering “mental distress” as a result of his firing, considering he moved his family to Vancouver to work for the Canucks. The Vancouver franchise has yet to comment on the lawsuit./

Vancouver Canucks Sued by Italian Sports Psychologist Hired After Stanley Cup Loss to Bruins | NESN Nation | NESN.com (http://nesn.com/2013/03/vancouver-canucks-sued-by-italian-sports-psychologist-hired-after-stanley-cup-loss-to-bruins/)

Nabatron
03-09-2013, 10:04 PM
and minny won today could be a interdasting game tomorrow!

pure.life
03-09-2013, 11:19 PM
Vancouver Canucks Sued by Italian Sports Psychologist Hired After Stanley Cup Loss to Bruins | NESN Nation | NESN.com (http://nesn.com/2013/03/vancouver-canucks-sued-by-italian-sports-psychologist-hired-after-stanley-cup-loss-to-bruins/)

The Canucks could use the psychologist now

Renthal
03-09-2013, 11:49 PM
Jamie Benn got rocked tonight and I bet is out w a concussion now
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CRS
03-10-2013, 12:02 AM
Jamie Benn got rocked tonight and I bet is out w a concussion now
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Pens seem to have some serious issues with concussions.

F3
03-10-2013, 12:19 AM
Pens seem to have some serious issues with concussions.

Except Jamie Benn plays for Dallas.....

spideyv2
03-10-2013, 01:24 AM
Pens seem to have some serious issues with concussions.

lol I think you got Neal mixed up with Benn

Imagine if the Stars still had Neal...what a dumb trade

HonestTea
03-10-2013, 01:53 AM
Jamie Benn got rocked tonight and I bet is out w a concussion now
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Pens seem to have some serious issues with concussions.

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/vg/image/1348/19/1348199713715.jpg

CRS
03-10-2013, 10:28 AM
lol I think you got Neal mixed up with Benn

Imagine if the Stars still had Neal...what a dumb trade

Except Jamie Benn plays for Dallas.....

http://1-media-cdn.foolz.us/ffuuka/board/vg/image/1348/19/1348199713715.jpg

I'm weetaaded.

:okay:

Apologies.

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 11:10 AM
http://www.abload.de/img/11514-animated_gifchat8etf.gif

:lol we all have those moments... we all just like to give each other a hard time

604778
03-10-2013, 03:49 PM
Chicago down 4-0 after the first period.

figure.09
03-10-2013, 04:09 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

LUUUUUUUU
03-10-2013, 04:09 PM
24 seconds in :fuckthatshit:

satek
03-10-2013, 04:09 PM
That's hurting

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 04:10 PM
Parise..

http://i0.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/original/000/101/781/Y0UJC.png

jeedee
03-10-2013, 04:12 PM
Hilarious how AV is giggling before puck drop

Then Minny scores and the smiles gone

Goof

jeedee
03-10-2013, 04:26 PM
MOVE REF :rukidding:

Burrows/Koivu scrap? :ahwow:

LUUUUUUUU
03-10-2013, 04:31 PM
lol Sestito's jersey ripped... must be a knock off

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 04:32 PM
Should let Burrows and Koivu go at it

EmperorIS
03-10-2013, 04:32 PM
Sestito never wins a fight

LUUUUUUUU
03-10-2013, 04:32 PM
Konopka mad

jeedee
03-10-2013, 04:34 PM
FINALLY Kassian with the Sedins on the PP

About fucking time AV

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 04:35 PM
ITS A BOX PARTY

anyways

Kassian on the top PP was long overdue

dL
03-10-2013, 04:37 PM
I'm surprised we are still first in NW with the way we are playing.

dL

TjAlmeida
03-10-2013, 04:45 PM
Damn Edmonton 3/3 on the pp. 9 goals just over half way through the game.

Edit: 10 goals now
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figure.09
03-10-2013, 04:45 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

604778
03-10-2013, 04:45 PM
fuuuu.

satek
03-10-2013, 04:45 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

LUUUUUUUU
03-10-2013, 04:45 PM
:fuckthatshit:

mb_
03-10-2013, 04:45 PM
God fucking dammit motherfuckers
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EmperorIS
03-10-2013, 04:58 PM
lol... chi coming back jesus

EmperorIS
03-10-2013, 05:07 PM
lol start of second period ... after serious pep talk from coach ... AV serious face behind the bench .. ALRIGHT BOYSS LETS DO THIS ....

Garrison tripping penalty

lol talk about momentum killer

figure.09
03-10-2013, 05:13 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

604778
03-10-2013, 05:13 PM
What the fuck?

LsquareD
03-10-2013, 05:13 PM
Hurt.....
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satek
03-10-2013, 05:14 PM
disappointing :okay:

DanHibiki
03-10-2013, 05:14 PM
Right in the feel...

mb_
03-10-2013, 05:14 PM
Jesus...
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Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 05:15 PM
lol who's actually surprised?
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DanHibiki
03-10-2013, 05:18 PM
We better not end up like the calgary flames during their demise since 2008...

figure.09
03-10-2013, 05:20 PM
HIGGINS!!!!!!!

604778
03-10-2013, 05:21 PM
higginsssss....!

satek
03-10-2013, 05:21 PM
higgy!!

pure.life
03-10-2013, 05:24 PM
Some players may not be wearing the Canucks uniform for much longer. Can't help but think a big shake up is in the works

cliffhanger33
03-10-2013, 05:25 PM
man this is so disappointing

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 05:26 PM
Some players may not be wearing the Canucks uniform for much longer. Can't help but think a big shake up is in the works

not yet

because talk about health will come up
Once Juice is back and this continues,
AV is first to go

jeedee
03-10-2013, 05:27 PM
Some players may not be wearing the Canucks uniform for much longer. Can't help but think a big shake up is in the works

If we get bounced in the first round yeah

Cya AV :troll:

punkwax
03-10-2013, 05:29 PM
We get it jeedee, you hate AV. Starting to post like BMWM5 against Luongo. Mix it up a little lol

#GDlogic

:troll:

haha13
03-10-2013, 05:31 PM
this game is frustrating to watch

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 05:32 PM
odd man rush one after another...
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spideyv2
03-10-2013, 05:37 PM
not yet

because talk about health will come up
Once Juice is back and this continues,
AV is first to go

English, not even once

:troll:
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EmperorIS
03-10-2013, 05:40 PM
lol 5-6 Chi ....

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 05:45 PM
Oilers have lost 2 straight now

EDIT..

Hawks have lost 2 straight
oops

jeedee
03-10-2013, 05:46 PM
Oilers have lost 2 straight now

What? Oilers just beat the Hawks 6-5

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 05:49 PM
What? Oilers just beat the Hawks 6-5

oops
hahaa
DO U LIKE BLUE LABEL?

westopher
03-10-2013, 05:52 PM
Thank god oilers held on. If dubnyk is hurt though they are gonna be more fucked than they already are.

KO7
03-10-2013, 05:58 PM
They showed Tanev with his car, was it an Audi RS5 or is he still on measly A5 pay scale? :troll:

figure.09
03-10-2013, 06:01 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

jeedee
03-10-2013, 06:01 PM
:ahwow:

satek
03-10-2013, 06:01 PM
hankkkkk!!

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 06:01 PM
fluke goal lol
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dinamix
03-10-2013, 06:02 PM
Sandercock

604778
03-10-2013, 06:02 PM
Woooo!!

bobbinka
03-10-2013, 06:05 PM
please be okay, tanev

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 06:05 PM
fuck please don't be injured tanev
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figure.09
03-10-2013, 06:10 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Sentinel
03-10-2013, 06:10 PM
Fuck

satek
03-10-2013, 06:11 PM
shitty

dL
03-10-2013, 06:11 PM
Waste of my time.

dL
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Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 06:11 PM
9th place team
The Vancouver Canucks

cliffhanger33
03-10-2013, 06:11 PM
wow wtf

i rushed home to turn on the game coz i thought we were back in the game; once i turn on tv, i see 4-2 the frawkkk

mb_
03-10-2013, 06:12 PM
brutal

bobbinka
03-10-2013, 06:17 PM
gaddamn it ref... got in the way

GabAlmighty
03-10-2013, 06:17 PM
godamn ref in the way

604778
03-10-2013, 06:17 PM
Tanev... now hank...

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 06:20 PM
both are back

cliffhanger33
03-10-2013, 06:28 PM
if only he scored shorthanded , momentum cud hv shifted our way ;)

dinamix
03-10-2013, 06:37 PM
Time to jump off bandwagon again. Be back when they start winning

Tim Budong
03-10-2013, 06:38 PM
Worst hockey played in the regular season for awhile now

Mike Oxbig
03-10-2013, 06:40 PM
Good!

Hope this will lead to some major roster adjustment by deadline.

bobbinka
03-10-2013, 06:40 PM
yea, and also get the urgency going

mb_
03-10-2013, 06:44 PM
Time to jump off bandwagon again. Be back when they start winning

do us a favor and stay off

Gh0stRider
03-10-2013, 06:48 PM
oh shit colorado score at .03 seconds OT

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 07:28 PM
Sitting in 6th now, two points separating us from 11th place

dinamix
03-10-2013, 07:46 PM
The beginning of the end of the vigneault era. Let the Seth jones sweepstakes begin.

Gh0stRider
03-10-2013, 07:46 PM
COLUMBUS on a 5 game win streak.

UFO
03-10-2013, 07:50 PM
Sitting in 6th now, two points separating us from 11th place

Yeah, but we're also just 2 pts shy of sole possession of 3rd place, honest 3rd too not via division lead.

Sit tight and enjoy the ride :)

Mike Oxbig
03-10-2013, 07:57 PM
Is AV's job on the line on tuesday?

The beginning of the end of the vigneault era. Let the Seth jones sweepstakes begin.

We need a legit 2nd line.

dbaz
03-10-2013, 08:04 PM
The beginning of the end of the vigneault era. Let the Seth jones sweepstakes begin.

even if they did miss the playoffs and get the first, which isnt impossible but, highly unlikely, the team shouldn't draft jones. take a 3rd/4th rounder from the team with the second overall pick as insurance they wont pick jones and proceed with drouin. with that pick the team would be able to have a good second line

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 08:08 PM
Well.. next game is against the red hot Jackets....:lol

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 08:17 PM
CANUCKS ALL AGREE SOMETHING MISSING

BY JASON BOTCHFORD, THE PROVINCE MARCH 10, 2013
MENDOTA HEIGHTS, Minn. — A rough loss against the Chicago Blackhawks couldn’t do it.

Neither could a blowout at the hands of the Detroit Red Wings.

Maybe it will be the overtime loss to the surging doormats, the Columbus Blue Jackets, which helps kick start a Canucks season that’s been, at best, meandering.

Either that, or it could be the 160 pushups.

Winners of just three of 11 games, the Canucks have been missing something. You could say it’s centres and a power play, and you’d be right.

But Cory Schneider called it urgency. And Henrik Sedin said it was desperation.

Whatever it is, it inspired one of the Canucks’ first closed-door meetings of the season Saturday.

“We need to get a little bit more desperate,” Henrik said. “We can’t just go about our business and think not getting wins is good enough just because we’re playing well.

“We need that little extra.

“That’s what you saw in our games against L.A. and San Jose where we pushed ourselves a few more per cent. That’s the difference sometimes in getting two points or losing in overtime.”

Maybe you can’t measure desperation, but Henrik said the fact the Canucks have had more than two power plays in just one of their past seven games reflects a lack of it.

“When you’re playing desperate hockey, that’s usually when you get a few more power plays,” Henrik said. “For sure that’s one thing, when you have to battle a little harder to get to the net so they have to haul you down.

“That’s something we have to start doing.”

A Canucks season never officially starts until the first players-only meeting. Sometimes they go nowhere, and another needs to be called in a few weeks.

Other times they seem to have some impact, like in the 2010-11 season. The Canucks were tortured 7-1 on Nov. 20, 2010 by the Hawks. What followed was a players-only meeting, some moments of self-reflection and the coming together of 23 men, give or take, making it a memorable, if convenient, turning point.

“I don’t think we’re desperate yet, but we need that desperation,” Schneider said. “I think urgency is the better word. We have to realize that ‘Hey, tomorrow is the halfway point of the season and usually the second half is the playoff push.’

“It’s one thing to be in games, but I think we need to have that urgency and that instinct to either separate ourselves during the game or to put teams away instead of hanging around and being in a game.

“I think we need to be dominant in games at some point.”

Dominant is one thing the Canucks have not been, other than three games, which were wins over Minnesota, Calgary and a beatdown of the Anaheim Ducks. But there hasn’t been a game like that in a month.

While the players are handling the current swoon with meetings, the coaching staff chose a more direct, draconian approach.

“Punishment,” Henrik Sedin said.

That’s what the Canucks got served at practice Saturday when head coach Alain Vigneault rolled out his power play practice. The units, which didn’t have personnel changes, had a drill where the power play had to get shots on net and retrieve the puck three straight times.

If they did it, they were good. If not, they had to do pushups.

“There were 160 pushups; yeah, it was tough,” said Henrik, who counted every single one.

Schneider said: “They’re either going to be really strong (Sunday), or really tired.”

Vigneault has either been patient with his alignment or stubborn. He’s continued to have Jordan Schroeder on the point for his first power-play unit, while Jason Garrison, who had nine power-play goals last year, is on the second unit.

When will his patience run out?

“That’s a good question,” Vigneault said. “I’m going to be patient enough to start (Sunday’s game) way.

“How long that’s going to last, I don’t quite know.”

twitter.com/@botchford
Canucks all agree something (http://www.theprovince.com/sports/hockey/canucks-hockey/Canucks+agree+something+missing/8075277/story.html)

MR_BIGGS
03-10-2013, 08:18 PM
If playoffs started tomorrow, we'd be playing Wild in the 3 vs 6 match-up.

AV will not go unless they are losing with everyone in the line up. I think Gillis is feeling a bit of pressure right now, but he has 3 weeks until the trade deadline. A team can turn it around in one week going undefeated. Another factor is, this team hasn't played healthy all season it seems. They need to have their regular lines so they get into a routine and habit and familiarize themselves with the same line mates game in and game out.

Mike Oxbig
03-10-2013, 08:25 PM
6 of 7 teams in last decade won stanley cup by completing trades 2 weeks before deadline.

MR_BIGGS
03-10-2013, 08:37 PM
Teams that host the Olympics end up winning the Stanley Cup.

:troll:

Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 08:44 PM
WTB: Visnovsky from NYI

srs

CRS
03-10-2013, 09:22 PM
If playoffs started tomorrow, we'd be playing Wild in the 3 vs 6 match-up.

AV will not go unless they are losing with everyone in the line up. I think Gillis is feeling a bit of pressure right now, but he has 3 weeks until the trade deadline. A team can turn it around in one week going undefeated. Another factor is, this team hasn't played healthy all season it seems. They need to have their regular lines so they get into a routine and habit and familiarize themselves with the same line mates game in and game out.

Good luck with AV at the helm.

nah
03-10-2013, 10:09 PM
they need to roll with lu or schneids the rest of the way to give one of the chance to get hot

E60_M5
03-10-2013, 10:17 PM
they need to roll with lu or schneids the rest of the way to give one of the chance to get hot

well, Schneids just started 3 in a row now?

The Hype
03-10-2013, 10:20 PM
WTB: Visnovsky from NYI

srs

Trust me, you don't. His last good year was two seasons ago in Anaheim. I was so stoked with how he was playing, he had a career year in points. The next season he stunk, and I was so happy they got rid of his subpar play and enormous cap hit.

jeedee
03-10-2013, 10:23 PM
well, Schneids just started 3 in a row now?

And it won't be 4 in a row :lol

Pretty sure Lu gets the call for next game

pure.life
03-10-2013, 10:26 PM
WTB: Visnovsky from NYI

srs

We don't need anymore #2-4 defencemen on our team. We need a #1 D to anchor the crops. Edler was supposed to be our #1 but he's suffering from the yips (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yips). Either he's got an injury or the LAK series messed up his head. Either way, the Visnovsky won't be able to provide much help for the Canucks.

jeedee
03-10-2013, 10:29 PM
And where do we get this #1?

Sigh......................... wish we still had Ehrhoff :okay:

Mike Oxbig
03-10-2013, 10:32 PM
WTT: Schneider for Henrique

spideyv2
03-10-2013, 10:33 PM
Fire AV pl0x
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Not really racist!
03-10-2013, 11:03 PM
My reasoning behind Visnovsky is that he can play the right side, provide a veteran presence to set the D-corps straight, help the PP and he'll be cheap (yes I realize 5.6 mil cap hit) and can be a rental as his contract expires this summer

Streit is a possibility too but I don't see the captain getting shipped

But hey, I don't watch many NYI games

This is all assuming another D gets shipped away at the deadline

Bouncing Bettys
03-10-2013, 11:34 PM
Komisarek and Liles are sitting in the press box because of a logjam at D - even Gardiner is having to wait in the AHL while playing very well for the Marlies. They (Komi/Liles) were playing decently. Their only real drawback this season has been salary, a potrtion of which could be used in trade. It has been speculated they have been sitting in part so they won't get injured before a trade. I'd rather keep one or both since some of our D are AHLers and it shows at times. I haven't been watching the Canucks this season so I'm not sure what would make an even trade or if they would help your team.

My troll suggestion is to fire AV and hire Ron Wilson. You would find yourself with a constant craving for waffles.

Mike Oxbig
03-10-2013, 11:43 PM
My reasoning behind Visnovsky is that he can play the right side, provide a veteran presence to set the D-corps straight, help the PP and he'll be cheap (yes I realize 5.6 mil cap hit) and can be a rental as his contract expires this summer

Streit is a possibility too but I don't see the captain getting shipped

But hey, I don't watch many NYI games

This is all assuming another D gets shipped away at the deadline

Don't need another offensive D. If anyone we need Defensive Dman like robyn reghr to clear the net in front.

What we need:
Top 6 wings
Defensive D man
3rd C
New coach :badpokerface:

DanHibiki
03-10-2013, 11:44 PM
TRADE FERR HODGSON

Nabatron
03-10-2013, 11:48 PM
we need a new coach and a new gm which could fix thaangs!

Not really racist!
03-11-2013, 12:04 AM
Don't need another offensive D. If anyone we need Defensive Dman like robyn reghr to clear the net in front.

What we need:
Top 6 wings
Defensive D man
3rd C
New coach :badpokerface:

In all honesty I think our D is fine (if they get their shit together and all healthy)... they're all proven in the past that they can play well defensively, there just needs to be some change on the roster (preferably AV).

With Bieksa out of the line-up, we finally see how valuable he has been, especially the past two seasons. He's pretty much the glue that holds our D together and the only guy capable of playing on the right side. If anything we need a power play quarterback. When Hoff and Salo were still around our PP was tops in the league because they played that role perfectly, granted Hoff was shitty defensively. Now that they're gone our PP is 20th, and Henrik and Daniel aren't leading the league in points. Coincidence? I think not

My proposition before we talk shit about this PP even more is to throw Garrison at the point again w/ Ballard
If he establishes that rocket shot again (that we paid for) nobody will want to block it.. similar to Salo..... and Ballard can at least pass pretty well.
Oh.. throw Kassian in front of the net too please.

UFO
03-11-2013, 01:30 AM
AV's proposition to curing the PP is making the boys do pushups. lol

The one time he should juggle lines, he doesn't

I'm not sure why people who have a hard-on for AV think he's a genius. I'm not actually sure what AV does to coach the team. He has his assistants take care of d-zone and special teams, which are clearly working fantastic... He seems to like letting the veterans and players work out and solve their problems themselves and also motivate themselves. He's continually shown that the only in-game or even between game adjustments he's capable of making is throwing names of players from line 2-4 in a hat and drawing them out at random. He has a coin that decides who starts in goal. Pretty sweet gig he's got going on here.

spideyv2
03-11-2013, 01:51 AM
I'm still puzzled as to how the argument "THIS TEAM WAS 1 WAY AWAY FROM A CUP IN 2011" still gets brought up. Clearly, this is nowhere near the same team. The team we saw in 2010-2011 was probably the best Canucks line-up we'll see in a long, long time.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows (Solid 1st line)
Raymond-Kesler-Samuelsson (Beast second line when healthy)
Torres-Malhotra-Hansen (Pre-injury Malhotra :()
Higgins-Lapierre-Glass (Could compete with any 4th line out there)

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Ehrhoff-Edler
Ballard-Salo

Arguably the best D core in the league, when healthy

EmperorIS
03-11-2013, 02:10 AM
I think Kesler not producing hurt us the most. Kesler was a key part in trading and building the team around on the second line and without Kesler that just falls apart. Now we got a bunch of grunts with no finesse trying to play an over used system that AV dictates

Vansterdam
03-11-2013, 02:32 AM
don't think we should get rid of coach v unless we don't make playoffs this year
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spideyv2
03-11-2013, 02:46 AM
I think Kesler not producing hurt us the most. Kesler was a key part in trading and building the team around on the second line and without Kesler that just falls apart. Now we got a bunch of grunts with no finesse trying to play an over used system that AV dictates

MG took a gamble on Booth, hoping he'd revert back to his 25-30 goal form. Unfortunately for us, I don't think we'll see that kind of Booth, ever again.

On paper, Raymond-Kes-Booth looks good tho
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SkinnyPupp
03-11-2013, 02:49 AM
Have the Canucks ever had success with signing players to "revert to form"?

AzNightmare
03-11-2013, 02:54 AM
Nevermind Booth.
I don't even think we'll ever see 41goal Kesler again.
All these injuries have to make you wonder if he's already past his prime.

:okay:
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pure.life
03-11-2013, 05:48 AM
News1130sports (https://twitter.com/News1130Sports) reporting that Schroeder is sent down for Ebbett and Pinozotto will be called up on Thursday.

kristianhay
03-11-2013, 06:38 AM
^

Makes sense, they were pretty much wasting Schroeder away on the 4th line. Can't see him developing much playing with Weise and Sestito, would rather him play 20+ minutes a game down in Chicago.

This is good to hear, though.

News1130 Sports ‏@News1130Sports
#Wolves gm Wendell Young says #1 draft Nicklas Jensen played really well in 2 games this weekened.

Tim Budong
03-11-2013, 06:58 AM
I think Kesler not producing hurt us the most. Kesler was a key part in trading and building the team around on the second line and without Kesler that just falls apart. Now we got a bunch of grunts with no finesse trying to play an over used system that AV dictates

Kesler not scoring as much is one thing. IMO, his biggest asset has to be his defensive game, and not having that hurt the canucks more than ever.

News1130sports (https://twitter.com/News1130Sports) reporting that Schroeder is sent down for Ebbett and Pinozotto will be called up on Thursday.

This is a good thing. He needs playing time, Ryan Johanssen of CBJ last year played almost the entire year with no results.

He is playing much better now with some seasoning in the A

SkinnyPupp
03-11-2013, 07:44 AM
Nevermind Booth.
I don't even think we'll ever see 41goal Kesler again.
All these injuries have to make you wonder if he's already past his prime.

:okay:
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I'm pretty sure that season was a bit of a 'fluke' more than anything. Kesler has always been a great 2 way center, not really a scoring center... so that was just a crazy season for him. If anything, the high expectations might be making things even worse.

RiceIntegraRS
03-11-2013, 09:19 AM
If our powerplay was more efficient like years past, we'd be winning theses one goal games and all this panic wouldnt of been created. Fix the powerplay and i think were fine.
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kristianhay
03-11-2013, 09:22 AM
If only fixing the powerplay were such a simple thing.

24th ranked PP in the league, 15.8% on the PP, something like 0/25 recently.

:okay:

highfive
03-11-2013, 09:32 AM
Don't need another offensive D. If anyone we need Defensive Dman like robyn reghr to clear the net in front.

What we need:
Top 6 wings
Defensive D man
3rd C
New coach :badpokerface:

We need a 2nd/3rd line C badly.

We lost 2 of our best faceoff centres in Kesler and Manny.

When you have Lapierre as our PK centre...we have a problem. As much as we can have Lappy, we need a better centre.

UFO
03-11-2013, 09:48 AM
moar pushups is the answer to our pp

in all seriousness, when we get set up in the zone, we seem to be moving too much, whether it be skating or passing. the boys are trying to get a clean shooting lane on net, and are taking too long to get the puck towards the net. thing is, the shooting lane won't be clear if there is sufficient traffic to screen the goalie for an effective powerplay. so it seems the only shot the canucks are willing to shoot on are the tick tac toe lateral passes which are generally lower percentage passes, or simply blast it from the blueline when there is a clear shooting lane (assuming shooter can hit the net and doesn't shoot wide/high) hoping the goalie can't stop it even if he can see it, once again a lower percentage play

AzNightmare
03-11-2013, 11:08 AM
Sedin-Sedin-Burrows (Solid 1st line)
Raymond-Kesler-Samuelsson (Beast second line when healthy)
Torres-Malhotra-Hansen (Pre-injury Malhotra :()
Higgins-Lapierre-Glass (Could compete with any 4th line out there)


Our 4th line was awesome relatively.
:okay:

the 4th line is like our 2nd line now...

Nabatron
03-11-2013, 12:23 PM
if only we could get erhoff back and not have resigned edler pp would have been fixed...

spideyv2
03-11-2013, 12:36 PM
I think it's safe to say Edler has topped out as a very good top 4 D-man. As we can see, if he's given number 1 minutes, he tends to fall apart.
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pastarocket
03-11-2013, 01:14 PM
The Province reporter Ben Kuzma is spot on in terms of putting some of the blame of the Canucks' problems on AV.



http://blogs.theprovince.com/2013/03/11/vigneault-must-shoulder-his-share-of-blame-for-lethargic-ineffective-comfortable-canucks/

-good article.


Besides the coach, Mike Gillis is accountable for the free fall that the team is going through now.

-Where's the "bold moves" that MG promised when he became the team GM? Where's the trade to bolster the team's offence??

Basically, we have the second line center being filled by a committee of different forwards because Gillis cannot or does not have the ability to make a deal to jumpstart the team offence.

If you don't have a strong defence, and good centres in today's NHL, forget about your chances of playoff success.

We miss CoHo.

jeedee
03-11-2013, 01:30 PM
If you don't have a strong defence, and good centres in today's NHL, forget about your chances of playoff success.

We miss CoHo.

Funny you say that.

Cause Hodgson doesn't have strong defense. Remember that Detroit game last year where we snapped their home streak? Sure he scored a goal in that game but was on for 2 goals against.

Sure the kid's talented, but he can't play defense for shit. Its being shown in Buffalo too. He's putting up goals and great numbers but getting scored against.

You can look at his +/- and say "but he's just a -4". Sure, but remember his GF/being on the ice for the + "balances it out".

There's some stat out there that he's last for worst GA for a forward.

He looks like he could be used for the Canucks second line, but he would've predicted Kesler would have off season injury, then RE-INJURE his foot and be out 4-6 weeks again? Certainly not Gillis.

GrapeDrink
03-11-2013, 01:35 PM
hes also 47% on the dot so I don't see how that helps either lol..

Tapioca
03-11-2013, 01:42 PM
Besides the coach, Mike Gillis is accountable for the free fall that the team is going through now.

-Where's the "bold moves" that MG promised when he became the team GM? Where's the trade to bolster the team's offence??



Gillis has made many "bold" moves. None have really panned out in our favour:

- Signing Mats Sundin (UFA)
- Trade for Ballard
- Trade for David Booth
- Trade for Zack Kassian
- Signing Jason Garrison (UFA)
- Signing Dan Hamhuis (UFA)

The only bold move that has panned out for us is Dan Hamhuis. I don't consider the trade for Ehrhoff a "bold deal" because it basically fell into his lap.

I don't blame Gillis for trying, but clearly, there's an issue in the Canuck scouting department. In fact, one could argue that these deals have been disastrous since Gillis/AV have been known to use advanced stats in evaluating players.

We're seeing the window close as we speak. Gillis has maybe 1 or 2 bold moves at best before the window closes for good. But, who out there has the ability to break games open? Corey Perry?
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jeedee
03-11-2013, 01:48 PM
You're saying Garrison hasn't panned out for us..

In what? 25 games into his first season as a Canuck?

:seriously:

Give him more time than that bud :lol .

Powerforwards like Kassian take 'awhile' to "pan" out. Booth was playing good before his knee on knee that took him out of the lineup. Sundin had a HUGE impact on Kesler. Ballard is playing decent when given the chance.

All of those moves are debatable, but I agree that Gillis has made bold moves that haven't panned out. Like:

- Letting Ehrhoff walk
- Marco Sturm signing :lol
- Giving Luongo that long contract WITH a NTC
- Giving NTC's out like candy

hotshot1
03-11-2013, 01:49 PM
post 9900!

FerrariEnzo
03-11-2013, 01:55 PM
Schneider isnt panning out like a #1 goalie.. What happen to him??

AzNightmare
03-11-2013, 01:59 PM
How long should we wait? or do we just have the worst of luck.
Cause in the end, we just have a bag full of excuses and no results.
Should we give every player 2-3 seasons to "pan out" before we admit things didn't work out?

At the same time, It's AV's fault for not getting players to play up to potential.
This could just be a bad slump that's being amplified in a short season.
But the way I see our future with AV being the coach,
none of our young guys are going to develop properly under his coaching.

jeedee
03-11-2013, 02:04 PM
How long should we wait? or do we just have the worst of luck.
Cause in the end, we just have a bag full of excuses and no results.
Should we give every player 2-3 seasons to "pan out" before we admit things didn't work out?

That's the thing with power forwards like Kassian. They're notoriously tough to develop but if they make it they are extremely valuable.

Look at the David Backes', Milan Lucic's and Jamie Benn's of the league. They're extremely tough to acquire and unlikely to be available.

High risk; high reward in Kassian being able to pan out

Mike Oxbig
03-11-2013, 02:13 PM
Gillis addressed all the concerns we needed to fill in the void but those players just haven't lived up to expectations. Maybe they just need a new coach to light a fire under their ass like Sutter did to the kings. Schneider needs to be traded by this deadline, like it or not.

Sup Adam Henrique former teammate of Kassian from Winsor Spitfires also won the Memorial Cup. :fullofwin:

kristianhay
03-11-2013, 02:20 PM
Some interesting comments from the players. Obviously they know something is wrong, and obviously they're frustrated.

From Daniel:

"We’re playing the game we love and it seems right now we’re not enjoying it out there," Daniel said. "It shouldn’t be this way."

"It sounds ridiculous, but that is about urgency, that’s about getting pucks deep, and getting speed to get behind them," Daniel said. "If you don’t get any speed, it’s impossible. We had one guy in on the forecheck, of course nothing was going to happen.

"We have to get all three guys in there. That’s what happens when you’re playing like we are right now. We’re standing still too much. We have to get speed, get going and get every guy contributing."


Booth:

"I was thinking about LA last year and they went through a stretch where they weren’t playing too well. They didn’t even know if they were making the playoffs. Then, they get on a roll, guys start playing and then they have an identity. I think we have to get an identity.

"Each line needs to get a different role and we all need to embrace those roles."

Sounds to me like the guys don't feel the systems that they're using are working anymore. IE: the systems that AV is implementing and not changing/adapting. You don't often hear the Sedins come out publicly and express their frustration, so I think that's something to pay attention to.

highfive
03-11-2013, 03:01 PM
We were so close in acquiring Backes back in the day.

Imagine if we did..:fullofwin:

jeedee
03-11-2013, 03:06 PM
We were so close in acquiring Backes back in the day.

Imagine if we did..:fullofwin:

I sure can;

Alternate Reality: Captain David Backes? | CanucksArmy (http://canucksarmy.com/2012/10/11/alternative-realities-captain-david-backes)

:okay:

Fun read though :lol

Not really racist!
03-11-2013, 03:16 PM
Backes would of been fuckin awesome

AV not utilizing his players in ways that they're most effective must be the story of the season, its gotten to the point where I'm not even frustrated anymore..

Laissez-faire and it'll be alright... right?

#AVLogic

murd0c
03-11-2013, 03:19 PM
I'm not concerned or worried, if we bomb we bomb and changes will happen cause we need it and at least the up coming draft runs really deep.

jeedee
03-11-2013, 03:20 PM
For anyone who hasn't read this yet; from yesterday:

Elliott Pap ‏@ElliottPap

Canuck coach AV on making PP guys do 10 pushups if not enough shots or puck retrievals in drill: "It turned out be a little bit of fun."

brb making PP guys do 10 pushups; that'll SUUUUURELY fix the PP

What a joke of a coach/coaching staff

spideyv2
03-11-2013, 03:22 PM
Funny you say that.

Cause Hodgson doesn't have strong defense. Remember that Detroit game last year where we snapped their home streak? Sure he scored a goal in that game but was on for 2 goals against.

Sure the kid's talented, but he can't play defense for shit. Its being shown in Buffalo too. He's putting up goals and great numbers but getting scored against.

You can look at his +/- and say "but he's just a -4". Sure, but remember his GF/being on the ice for the + "balances it out".

There's some stat out there that he's last for worst GA for a forward.

He looks like he could be used for the Canucks second line, but he would've predicted Kesler would have off season injury, then RE-INJURE his foot and be out 4-6 weeks again? Certainly not Gillis.

Strong this.

I don't know why he's projected as a "2-way centre." The kid has shown he can't play in his own zone.

Gilgamesh
03-11-2013, 04:00 PM
Do you guys think corsi is good for analysis? I was looking at corsi stats for hodgson and they do not look that bad. When I saw chicago players, I noticed that Bolland and Hjalmarsson were facing the toughest competition, which surprised me cuz Keith and Seabrook were the top pairing.

murd0c
03-11-2013, 04:04 PM
Schneider isnt panning out like a #1 goalie.. What happen to him??

When the team in front of you is falling a part what do you expect? He's still playing great and making saves but he can't do everything. No questions the two #1's is hard on him as well. It's not Schneiders fault at all and really right now it's on Gillis's head and he needs to address this really quick

dbaz
03-11-2013, 04:04 PM
did someone say we should have signed ehrhoff again, meaning match that buffalo contract? also someone suggested not signing edler again?
holy fuck this is turning into cdc fast.

kwy
03-11-2013, 04:05 PM
Bolland isnt a defenseman..

Gh0stRider
03-11-2013, 05:07 PM
Adam McQuaid hits Chris Neil + McQuaid vs Wiercioch fight . March 11, 2013 - YouTube



11:41 Ottawa fighting - 5 min P. Wiercioch drawn by A. McQuaid
11:41 Boston fighting - 5 min A. McQuaid drawn by P. Wiercioch
11:41 Ottawa instigator - face shield - 2 min P. Wiercioch drawn by A. McQuaid served by M. Stone
11:41 Ottawa spearing - 5 min P. Wiercioch
11:41 Ottawa instigator - 2 min P. Wiercioch drawn by A. McQuaid
11:41 Boston boarding - 2 min A. McQuaid drawn by C. Neil

Gilgamesh
03-11-2013, 05:32 PM
Bolland isnt a defenseman..

I was suggesting Bolland that plays against tougher competition than Seabrook and Keith, according to the corsi ratings.

Tim Budong
03-11-2013, 05:36 PM
For anyone who hasn't read this yet; from yesterday:



brb making PP guys do 10 pushups; that'll SUUUUURELY fix the PP

What a joke of a coach/coaching staff

I did read that, if anything, this is just more team bonding, finding ways to get the guys motivated
nothing wrong with this

Just like in an office environment, team building

tmc22
03-11-2013, 05:51 PM
For anyone who hasn't read this yet; from yesterday:



brb making PP guys do 10 pushups; that'll SUUUUURELY fix the PP

What a joke of a coach/coaching staff

LOL these were the things I had to do back in high school... Honestly I think AV has finally fallen out of favour with the team. Maybe it's time to bring in a new coach to light a fire under the team?

punkwax
03-11-2013, 06:28 PM
For anyone who hasn't read this yet; from yesterday:



brb making PP guys do 10 pushups; that'll SUUUUURELY fix the PP

What a joke of a coach/coaching staff

Coaches do stuff like this in sports all over the world. Going back to the fundamentals of what gave you a #1 ranked PP and making players do repetitive sequences with punishment until they do it right.. I kind of feel stupid even having to explain it.. this actually will HELP the PP. He obviously sees some lazy play out there and is drilling in their heads that it is not acceptable.

Your comment about him smiling before the game and then its gone after they got scored on in 24 seconds calling him a goof. Wouldn't he be more of a goof if he were still smiling? I read that and :fulloffuck: . I understand you might be thinking the Canucks are losing, not a good time to joke around but that's AV. We've all seen that he has a sense of humour and as a guy with a sense of humour myself, who has had a laugh at inappropriate times, I say give the guy a break there Captain Serious.

I think your hatred is misdirected and clouding your judgment. AV is a damn good coach and, no offense, but YOU HAVE NO FUCKING CLUE WHAT GOES ON BEHIND THE SCENES. None of us do. All we know is what we see on TV. Do you seriously think he'd be able to keep his job (in the NHL where the go to move for most franchises is firing coaches) this long if he just chewed gum?

People called for his head when the Canucks had an 11 game losing streak. Then they went to the Finals. Point is, shit happens and great teams overcome challenges like this. I still believe in Blue and think getting emotional, shooting from the hip and firing a good coach like Vigneault would be a mistake. Especially in a shortened season.

/2 cents

jeedee
03-11-2013, 06:43 PM
All we know is what we see on TV. Do you seriously think he'd be able to keep his job (in the NHL where the go to move for most franchises is firing coaches) this long if he just chewed gum?

People called for his head when the Canucks had an 11 game losing streak. Then they went to the Finals. Point is, shit happens and great teams overcome challenges like this. I still believe in Blue and think getting emotional, shooting from the hip and firing a good coach like Vigneault would be a mistake. Especially in a shortened season.

/2 cents

Oh yeah. Cause all the best coaches in history just chewed gum and did nothing hoping that their team would figure stuff out on their own.

Are you talking about this losing streak?

Alex Burrows Shorthanded Goal - Turning Point of the Canucks 08-09 Season - YouTube

Otherwise known as "the goal that saved Alain Vigneault."

The reason the Canucks have been so successful is because we have/had the most talented and deepest team we've ever had.

This team would've done just as well, if not better, with a different coach.

AV was a great coach for this team when we lacked depth and offensive firepower and could play a defensive system that relied on Luongo playing in Vezina form every night.

However he can't coach an offensive or counter-attack based game to save his life, and his ability to adapt or apply strategy in-game is atrocious.

He has one strategy. Sit back and defend the lead. How many time's have we seen being up a goal or two, and seeing the other team comeback and win? That's all he knows, that's all he wants to know.

AV isn't a motivational coach, many players have said that his speeches are mostly to the tune of "Okay guys, you know what to do, now go out there and do it."

He shows no emotion whatsoever, which can be seen as "keeping your cool" but in many times it simply comes across as a lack of intensity/investment. We get scored on multiple times in short spurts, and the guy doesn't take a timeout to calm the boys down.

Sure you can say he won the Jack Adams for "best coach" but that's a regular season award, just like the Presidents Trophy (heh). It doesn't mean shit in the playoffs. When was the last time a Jack Adams award winner led his team to the final and won the cup? Tortorella in 04?

AV hasn't coached this team to success, rather he's ridden their talent to success. In many cases, his coaching has actually held the team back.

Between the garbage Power Play AND Penalty Kill, the defensive pairings AND lines that get mixed up more often than Raymond falls on the ice, and the constant man-crushes on useless plugs that end up taking away ice time from more useful players, I don't see how anyone can logically defend the guy.

Meh, guess I should just go smoke a j and relax :lol

/2 cents :)

punkwax
03-11-2013, 06:57 PM
You make some valid points and I guess perspective has a lot to do with it. I hate it when the Canucks sit on a lead more than anyone.. but overall I guess we'll agree to disagree.

MR_BIGGS
03-11-2013, 06:59 PM
If Stepan Weiss doesn't resign with the Panthers, should the Canucks kick the tires? He's coming off wrist surgery, but he's been pretty consistent through the years and a lead by example type player.

Coming out of a contract year and having season ending surgery, his value won't be as high.

jeedee
03-11-2013, 07:03 PM
You make some valid points and I guess perspective has a lot to do with it. I hate it when the Canucks sit on a lead more than anyone.. but overall I guess we'll agree to disagree.

No hard feelings. Its fun to have discussions/debates bud :thumbsup:

jeedee
03-11-2013, 07:07 PM
If Stepan Weiss doesn't resign with the Panthers, should the Canucks kick the tires? He's coming off wrist surgery, but he's been pretty consistent through the years and a lead by example type player.

Coming out of a contract year and having season ending surgery, his value won't be as high.

I'd take Weiss on the team...if he comes cheap.

Has chemistry with Booth [unlike Kesler lol] and a middle of:

Sedin
Kesler
Weiss
Lapierre

:sweetjesus:

Mike Oxbig
03-11-2013, 07:11 PM
If Stepan Weiss doesn't resign with the Panthers, should the Canucks kick the tires? He's coming off wrist surgery, but he's been pretty consistent through the years and a lead by example type player.

Coming out of a contract year and having season ending surgery, his value won't be as high.

How does Booth Garrison and Ballard look so far on our team? No more Florida Panther experience.

Gh0stRider
03-11-2013, 07:34 PM
lol at this attempt

Kaspars Daugavins crazy shootout attempt on Tuukka Rask . Mar 11, 2013 - YouTube

dinamix
03-11-2013, 07:38 PM
Id take that over burrows attempt anyday..lol

AzNightmare
03-11-2013, 07:54 PM
I wonder should Burrows actually try his attempt again.
It was actually deemed a legal move, and it hit the post.
:lol

The thing with Daugavins' move is that any goalie that has seen this move can probably expect it
since he reveals it as soon as he places his stick on the puck like that.

UFO
03-11-2013, 08:16 PM
It's a cool move, creative. Only problem is the goalie knows that he won't be able to get the puck up off the ice, so he just has to seal off the ice and stay strong post to post. Rask actually gave up a ton of space 5 hole as he was reaching to the far post.

rsx
03-11-2013, 08:35 PM
love the attempt

punkwax
03-11-2013, 08:56 PM
Somebody played ringette :gay:

:lol

Blah_Teggie
03-11-2013, 09:07 PM
If Stepan Weiss doesn't resign with the Panthers, should the Canucks kick the tires? He's coming off wrist surgery, but he's been pretty consistent through the years and a lead by example type player.

Coming out of a contract year and having season ending surgery, his value won't be as high.

You know the Canucks will. This is how the phone convo between MG and Tallon will go.

RING RING

MG: Mike Gillis speaking, the winner of the GM of the year award in 2010 2011!
DT: Gilley! It's Dale from the Sunshine state!
MG: What do you want?
DT: I got some good shit for ya man!
MG: Hmm, I dunno, you kinda ripped me of with Ballard and Booth
DT: What you talking about? Booth is a power forward capable of scoring 30 goals! And Ballard, well umm uhh, you got me there. He sucks. But check it out, you can have Stephen fucking Weiss man!
MG: Hmmm, Weiss eh?
DT: Damn rights! He's also capable of scoring 30 a year!
MG: Wait a min! He's never scored 30 in a year! His best is 28!
DT: That's cuz he's not playing with the correct players, picture this Mikey, Weiss centering.......the twins!
MG: But Hank is a center
DT: Don't matter! Someone as talented as Hank, you can move him to the wing! Trust me, it can't fail!
MG: Hmm, all right. What's this gonna cost me?
DT: Happy you asked, and less than you think. We all know the fans of Vancouver hate Kassian cuz he was traded for your beloved Cody...
MG: Oh just him! Deal!
DT: Oh no, lemme finish. Only Kassian and Schroeder. We all know your coach don't play rookies. So what do you say Mike? I'll even throw in a 9th rounder to sweeten the pot.
MG: Hmm. Deal. But wait, isn't Weiss injur..
DT: Click

highfive
03-12-2013, 12:14 AM
If the Canucks are able to. Should pick up Brian Campbell instead. Instant pp offence. Garrison would have the passer who helped him with 16 goals.

Just place two big guys in front of the net. Maybe sesttito and Weise.
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kwy
03-12-2013, 12:16 AM
That sounds like an awful powerplay unit

Mike Oxbig
03-12-2013, 12:21 AM
All this Offensive D man talk will lead us no where but entertaining hockey and sell out crowd. Never will a cup.

Need physical "cant fuck with luongo" type D man to clear the net!

mickz
03-12-2013, 01:42 AM
I think Kesler not producing hurt us the most. Kesler was a key part in trading and building the team around on the second line and without Kesler that just falls apart. Now we got a bunch of grunts with no finesse trying to play an over used system that AV dictates

Guy has a good year and scores 41 goals. It's never happening again. Just because of that one year there are so many unrealistic expectations being put on him.

Some interesting comments from the players. Obviously they know something is wrong, and obviously they're frustrated.

From Daniel:



Booth:



Sounds to me like the guys don't feel the systems that they're using are working anymore. IE: the systems that AV is implementing and not changing/adapting. You don't often hear the Sedins come out publicly and express their frustration, so I think that's something to pay attention to.

I distinctly remember myself saying this a while back and few were in agreement. AV is a one trick pony. His roster makes him look much better than he actually his.

Backes would of been fuckin awesome

AV not utilizing his players in ways that they're most effective must be the story of the season, its gotten to the point where I'm not even frustrated anymore..

Laissez-faire and it'll be alright... right?

#AVLogic

Lets call Schroeder up and bury him on the 4th line with Weise and Sestito in a checking role! Oh what should we give this kid a chance? All right let's play him on the first line powerplay... on the point! Didn't work out? Send the kid back down to the AHL and we'll try the 30 year old career AHLer Andrew Ebbett again.

Oh yeah. Cause all the best coaches in history just chewed gum and did nothing hoping that their team would figure stuff out on their own.

Are you talking about this losing streak?

Alex Burrows Shorthanded Goal - Turning Point of the Canucks 08-09 Season - YouTube (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxrmvGTZTGg)

Otherwise known as "the goal that saved Alain Vigneault."

The reason the Canucks have been so successful is because we have/had the most talented and deepest team we've ever had.

This team would've done just as well, if not better, with a different coach.

AV was a great coach for this team when we lacked depth and offensive firepower and could play a defensive system that relied on Luongo playing in Vezina form every night.

However he can't coach an offensive or counter-attack based game to save his life, and his ability to adapt or apply strategy in-game is atrocious.

He has one strategy. Sit back and defend the lead. How many time's have we seen being up a goal or two, and seeing the other team comeback and win? That's all he knows, that's all he wants to know.

AV isn't a motivational coach, many players have said that his speeches are mostly to the tune of "Okay guys, you know what to do, now go out there and do it."

He shows no emotion whatsoever, which can be seen as "keeping your cool" but in many times it simply comes across as a lack of intensity/investment. We get scored on multiple times in short spurts, and the guy doesn't take a timeout to calm the boys down.

Sure you can say he won the Jack Adams for "best coach" but that's a regular season award, just like the Presidents Trophy (heh). It doesn't mean shit in the playoffs. When was the last time a Jack Adams award winner led his team to the final and won the cup? Tortorella in 04?

AV hasn't coached this team to success, rather he's ridden their talent to success. In many cases, his coaching has actually held the team back.

Between the garbage Power Play AND Penalty Kill, the defensive pairings AND lines that get mixed up more often than Raymond falls on the ice, and the constant man-crushes on useless plugs that end up taking away ice time from more useful players, I don't see how anyone can logically defend the guy.

Meh, guess I should just go smoke a j and relax :lol

/2 cents :)

Had the Canucks lost Round 1 Game 7 against the Blackhawks in 2011 I'm sure it would've cost AV his job. They were lucky to be on top at the end of that series. Lets see how long he can sit young players and play strictly veterans until him and Gillis get fired.

kristianhay
03-12-2013, 07:48 AM
Some more fruit for thought on the coaching. Schroeder, arguably more offensively minded, draws out so Ebbet can play in between Hansen and Raymond. Schroeder was playing bad, yes, but Ebbet is just terrible.

Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks
AV: Ebbett will start tonight on a line with Raymond and Hansen. Higgins will be between Booth and Kassian.

Looks like KB4 is riding the pine again. It really disgusts me that AV chooses to play Alberts over Ballard. Furthermore, Barker gets instant PP time while Ballard never gets the chance to play on it. Just boggles my mind.

Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks
AV: No Bieksa tonight. Barker likely to draw in on D and play on the PP.

Jason Botchford ‏@botchford
Looks like Ballard out, and barker in

Jason Botchford ‏@botchford
Bieksa not ready to play. Barker expected to be on power play if he does indeed replace Ballard in lineup

jeedee
03-12-2013, 08:08 AM
Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks
AV: Ebbett will start tonight on a line with Raymond and Hansen. Higgins will be between Booth and Kassian.

Ebbett slots in between Raymond and Hansen. Interesting...the same wingers Schroeder did really well with, who was demoted to the 4th with Sesito and Weise, then the AHL for Ebbett lol....................

Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks
AV: No Bieksa tonight. Barker likely to draw in on D and play on the PP.

The savior Cam Barker has arrived to get rid of this horrific PP lol..................................

I think I've said enough about AV lately :lol

van19
03-12-2013, 08:34 AM
What the hell goes on in AVs head ?

Demotes Schroeder to play with Weise and Sesito and never gives him
the chance to play with Raymond and Hansen again but Ebett, the AHL journeyman, gets the chance immediately ..

Poor Ballard too.. Getting scratched by friggin Alberts and Barker cause our coach is a moron
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LsquareD
03-12-2013, 08:41 AM
wtf AV :rukidding:

dhari
03-12-2013, 08:49 AM
What the hell goes on in AVs head ?

Demotes Schroeder to play with Weise and Sesito and never gives him
the chance to play with Raymond and Hansen again but Ebett, the AHL journeyman, gets the chance immediately ..

Poor Ballard too.. Getting scratched by friggin Alberts and Barker cause our coach is a moron
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Alberts and Barker are bigger than Ballard. Can't blame AV for wanting some size on the D. I'm a huge Ballard fan but I think it's good for Barker and Alberts to get some games in before the playoffs(if we make it in :badpokerface: )

Not really racist!
03-12-2013, 09:29 AM
JS was getting wasted on the 4th line anyways... better for his development to have top-line minutes in Chicago

dhari
03-12-2013, 09:40 AM
JS was getting wasted on the 4th line anyways... better for his development to have top-line minutes in Chicago

I agree! He got manhandled on Minny's 4th goal. He looked like a boy playing a man's sport.

Mike Oxbig
03-12-2013, 10:15 AM
AV's job is on the line tonight, if not then ::fulloffuck:

Not really racist!
03-12-2013, 10:29 AM
Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks
AV: Ebbett will start tonight on a line with Raymond and Hansen. Higgins will be between Booth and Kassian.

fsy82
03-12-2013, 10:57 AM
Vancouver Canucks ‏@VanCanucks
AV: Ebbett will start tonight on a line with Raymond and Hansen. Higgins will be between Booth and Kassian.

Are you serious???? Look 7 posts above you..lol

RRxtar
03-12-2013, 11:02 AM
im losing my patience

CRS
03-12-2013, 11:36 AM
If we lose tonight to CBJ, I'm going on the fire AV and get another coaching team bandwagon.

I know that we've been spoiled in past years with a really good team where winning was the norm but this is getting outrageous. If you can't control your team, you've clearly lost touch of it.

The only way to turn that around and getting in a new coach that will kick some ass and hold players accountable. AV is so nonchalant even with the loses that I can't imagine the team is taking him seriously.

Mike Oxbig
03-12-2013, 11:41 AM
What if Luongo wants AV to get fired for benching him or knowing he will still be benched rest of the season. So he loses tonight...

Booth and Kassian has good chemistry going lately, if only Kesler didn't get injured we would be seeing something. Both wingers can shoot the puck and needs a passer. Ribero? :troll:

Gumby
03-12-2013, 11:53 AM
Regardless of his feelings towards AV, I would hope that Luongo's pride and work ethic would prevent him from losing on purpose...

CRS
03-12-2013, 12:09 PM
Regardless of his feelings towards AV, I would hope that Luongo's pride and work ethic would prevent him from losing on purpose...

Luongo is such a team first kind of guy, I would have serious reservations about him throwing a game for selfish reasons.

jeedee
03-12-2013, 12:11 PM
Canucks can't lose tonight

cause its a free win, right Big Earl? :troll:

UFO
03-12-2013, 12:15 PM
AV's justification for putting Schroeder on the PP playing point was to help JS' confidence, and they needed a RH shot anyways. I get the RH shot, but throw him into a struggling PP playing out of position and expect his confidence to get better? Drop him down to the 4th line playing limited minutes with plugs who have hands of stone and no offensive creativity/upside going to help his confidence? These 'opportunities' AV likes to give young players make you scratch your head, and you wonder why they do not succeed to their potential.

I'm not saying Schroeder is the savior to our slump, but I would have liked to see better utilization before declaring that he needs to get his game together in the AHL

kwy
03-12-2013, 12:33 PM
Canucks can't lose tonight

cause its a free win, right Big Earl? :troll:

He fucking jinxed it. In this league, there's no such fucking thing as free points. You don't get up for a game, you lose.

Not really racist!
03-12-2013, 12:34 PM
#AVLogic

I think Luigi will play fine tonight as hes been the whole season thus far... Much more worried about the offense and the D leaving him out to dry tho.

Barker on the powerplay.. this will be interesting...if he can play like he did in Chicago at the point. well then I can understand why Ballard drawn out, but the odds of that happening are slim to none

so..
:fuckthatshit:

LSF22
03-12-2013, 12:42 PM
.Squire Barnes ‏@sbarnesglobal

Without karlsson@spezza Sens are 6-3-3. Without kesler@bieksa the canucks are 0-2-2. Depth and defensive play allows Ott to survive.

falcon
03-12-2013, 12:46 PM
Don't worry guys were just shaving points. :badpokerface:

spideyv2
03-12-2013, 02:30 PM
Don't worry guys, we're just saving ourselves for the playoffs

:troll:
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jeedee
03-12-2013, 02:39 PM
Don't worry guys, we're just saving ourselves for the playoffs

:troll:
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u r 1 cheeky kunt mate i swear i am goin 2 wreck u i swear on my mums life

Won't have to save ourselves in a shortened season :troll:

dbaz
03-12-2013, 02:46 PM
Luongo is such a team first kind of guy, I would have serious reservations about him throwing a game for selfish reasons.

team first guy? team first guys don't go out of their way in interviews to mention it would be best if he left. he created a problem that affects the whole team. there was no reason to say it would be best if he left, it created more media attention and probably pissed off his team mates. as a teammate you dont want to deal with that crap on top of all the other stuff that usually happens during a season

SkinnyPupp
03-12-2013, 02:50 PM
Don't worry guys, we're just saving ourselves for the playoffs

:troll:
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Works every time! :ilied:

kristianhay
03-12-2013, 03:16 PM
What a hit by Booth.

spoon.ek9
03-12-2013, 03:19 PM
Nice hit booth! I forgive you for taking that early penalty now :lol
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MR_BIGGS
03-12-2013, 03:36 PM
Here comes the Canucks anemic powerplay.

figure.09
03-12-2013, 04:03 PM
fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

Renthal
03-12-2013, 04:04 PM
way to go alberts.. stand there and watch the guy skate by for the rebound.

Mike Oxbig
03-12-2013, 04:11 PM
Not sure if you guys can tell but CBJ bringing in playoff intensity and stopping the Sedins pinning them against the boards.

AzNightmare
03-12-2013, 04:18 PM
What if Luongo wants AV to get fired for benching him or knowing he will still be benched rest of the season. So he loses tonight...


That would be dumb logic considering it's just fan speculation so far
that AV's job is on the line from the results of this game.

Even if Canucks lose tonight, I don't think AV's done quite yet.

kristianhay
03-12-2013, 04:22 PM
Jeff Paterson ‏@patersonjeff
FLA outshooting TBL 17-3...and losing 2-0 #NHL

Pretty funny stat.

fliptuner
03-12-2013, 04:25 PM
omg!!! edler actually took a shot?!?!?!

figure.09
03-12-2013, 04:26 PM
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!

fliptuner
03-12-2013, 04:26 PM
finally

mb_
03-12-2013, 04:26 PM
WOOOOOOOO
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Not really racist!
03-12-2013, 04:27 PM
nice shot garisson
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jeedee
03-12-2013, 04:27 PM
WHERE U AT JAYARE


brb Garrison 4.6M booming slapshot

:troll:

604778
03-12-2013, 04:27 PM
yeee!! gaaaarrrissssoooonnn!!!!

MR_BIGGS
03-12-2013, 04:27 PM
Garrison!

Barker assist? Top 5 draft pick potential?? :badpokerface:

mb_
03-12-2013, 04:30 PM
I tweeted that Garrison has been disappointing so far.. Scores 2 minutes later :lawl:

I should do this more often :troll:
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jeedee
03-12-2013, 04:32 PM
I tweeted that Garrison has been disappointing so far.. Scores 2 minutes later :lawl:

I should do this more often :troll:
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http://hulyitodoboz.prae.hu/prae/upload/do_it_phaggot.gif

mb_
03-12-2013, 05:00 PM
WTF VIGNEAULT KNOWS WHAT A TIME OUT IS?
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TypeRNammer
03-12-2013, 05:03 PM
http://sphotos-b.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/482615_10151554459918760_1786017458_n.jpg

The Carolina Blue Jackets :lawl:

jeedee
03-12-2013, 05:16 PM
Wtf kinda play was that Lapierre :fulloffuck:

MR_BIGGS
03-12-2013, 05:30 PM
BJs tie franchise record for consecutive point games. Another record with the Canucks on the receiving end.

AzNightmare
03-12-2013, 05:38 PM
Canucks barely held on in the OT.

:heckno:

Not really racist!
03-12-2013, 05:42 PM
dem saves by luuuuu
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MR_BIGGS
03-12-2013, 05:42 PM
Why do people dress up like referees at the game, like the guy behind Columbus' net.

figure.09
03-12-2013, 05:42 PM
RAYMOND!!!!

Bonka
03-12-2013, 05:42 PM
lol

Vansterdam
03-12-2013, 05:43 PM
EPIC

RiceIntegraRS
03-12-2013, 05:43 PM
everybody loves raymond!

MR_BIGGS
03-12-2013, 05:43 PM
A legal goal? How is that a goal...wow.

Not really racist!
03-12-2013, 05:43 PM
RAYMOND SPIN O RAMAAAA
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jeedee
03-12-2013, 05:43 PM
:ahwow:

Tim Budong
03-12-2013, 05:44 PM
WHEEE!!! SPINNNNNN

jeedee
03-12-2013, 05:44 PM
A legal goal? How is that a goal...wow.

Puck was still moving; never stopped

Mike Oxbig
03-12-2013, 05:44 PM
Canucks can't lose tonight

cause its a free win, right Big Earl? :troll:

That's correct!

AzNightmare
03-12-2013, 05:45 PM
Wow, haven't seen Raymond do that spin so smoothly before.
Even roofed it. He must have been practicing!

DanHibiki
03-12-2013, 05:45 PM
So does the rule about the player stopping no longer exist?

Usually when the spin move is tribe the player still has some forward momentum so it doesn't technically count as stopping. But Raymond there did a full stop.
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FerrariEnzo
03-12-2013, 05:45 PM
WOW what a spin-o-rama!

So does the rule about the player stopping no longer exist?

Apparently, its when the pucks stops moving forward???