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It's interesting how welfare's secondary account comes out in times like these.
Do you care, welfare? Do you actually care if I go down the list of items I'd like to see concrete change in, and addressed?
I won't even delve into the issues as a result of red-lining, the lack pf parity in the justice system when it comes to those that are white versus black, to the issues of income in-equality and the systemic Jim Crow laws that the US government has had in place to put these communities in the position they are in today. If I knew you cared, perhaps I would put together in essay discussing these topics.
Very simply to answer your question on the highest scale, accountability.
You know why we keep seeing these videos? You know why that officer was able to stone face look at bystanders watching him slowly kill a man? Lack of accountability, impunity, he knew that he would not be held accountable under normal circumstances.
I want to see officers punished to the full extent of the law in every scenario where this happens going forward.
The medical examiner that attempted to exonerate the force by fudging his assessment that George passed away due to a "pre-existing" condition. It took independent examiners to clearly prove that this was not the case. Even in such a high profile case such as this one, the law is still attempting to resort to their trickery and lies.
Do you know how often this occurs in cases? Too many to call here.
I've spoken about the DA's in Georgia that attempted to cover up the Arbery shooting.
To the prosecutors that throw black men in jail under false charges, or trumped up confessions, to the judges that sentence these men, there is rot in every facet of the system here.
So please clarify to me, what do you require me to expound on in terms of what I'd like to see change? In fact, let me pose you a question. Tell me specifically, what do you know about this very subject?
The fucking worst is the tactic of getting a guilty plea when there is little to no evidence (they don’t want to let someone get away regardless whether their innocent or not). They’ll threaten crazy charges, convince them they’re fucked and they’ll accept a plea deal. They don’t realize how it will fuck their life up after their sentence.
The fucking worst is the tactic of getting a guilty plea when there is little to no evidence (they don’t want to let someone get away regardless whether their innocent or not). They’ll threaten crazy charges, convince them they’re fucked and they’ll accept a plea deal. They don’t realize how it will fuck their life up after their sentence.
The levels of “the blue line” is insane
Exactly. It's almost like a game to them, meanwhile they are playing with people's lives here.
Once again I pose, to the people complaining about violence in these protests. Have you not seen the videos of undercover cops breaking windows, and reports of white supremacist groups joining in on the looting and destruction?
Hehe, I saw you supporting the HK protests, knowing full well every protest is ALWAYS infiltrated by groups that want to remove legitimacy from the movement and message.
These tactics are not new, and have always been used as a means to respond with violence by the authorities, while also changing the topic on the very issue at hand. Why are the protesters being treated like a monolith, simply because some anarchists want to loot?
You've spent more time in this thread condemning the protests, rather then addressing why they're protesting in the first place.
You want to know why people are having such a visceral reaction to this, and why I personally think the police are inciting much of this?
Look no further then a few weeks ago in Michigan. We had armed white men who were able to march on the capitol, brandishing their weapons, and enter the legislature with complete impunity. Not a single rubber bullet, not a single can of tear gas was fired.
Meanwhile we have peaceful protesters being shot in the face with rubber bullets, tear gas, journalists being assaulted, cops running people over in SUVs, you name it. We are seeing a complete and total disproportion of reaction by police to two different groups of people.
Trump's stunt with his riot cops, attacking peaceful protests Lafayette square is a perfect example of that.
Violence begets violence, plain and simple, you reap what you sow.
Twitchy, you're putting forth an argument that not one person said they support.
No one has said targeting small business is good, luckily there is insurance for that. Once again, you are alleging that the people attacking the small businesses are the protesters, when we've seen obvious cases against that.
Let me leave this here, this is right from Minnesota.
The first business in the video that was ransacked, we see clearly on the video the kids entering and ransacking the store were white kids, apparently from out of town.
You say you worry about the small business owners, when there's a small business owner right in the belly of the beast in Minneapolis, the local protesters are defending the store. Look at how the police are treating people in the video, attacking the very owner and the locals defending the place.
Doesn't seem to me the police care about the small business owners.
They police literally roll up and shoot rubber bullets and pepper spray at the owner defending his store, and into the business itself. They also shoot journalists covering the event right in their face while laying harmlessly on the ground.
What kind of people are these officers? What kind of culture has been created in these forces to think that this is acceptable?
To think that this militaristic practice of enforcement, which I may have you all hearken back to the methods the colonial American forces in the Philippines and Caribbean had utilized in the early 20th century.
When you watch these events, how anyone is surprised people are turning violent completely mystifies me. You expect people to simply bend over and take that treatment, then?
It's interesting how welfare's secondary account comes out in times like these.
Do you care, welfare? Do you actually care if I go down the list of items I'd like to see concrete change in, and addressed?
I won't even delve into the issues as a result of red-lining, the lack pf parity in the justice system when it comes to those that are white versus black, to the issues of income in-equality and the systemic Jim Crow laws that the US government has had in place to put these communities in the position they are in today. If I knew you cared, perhaps I would put together in essay discussing these topics.
Very simply to answer your question on the highest scale, accountability.
You know why we keep seeing these videos? You know why that officer was able to stone face look at bystanders watching him slowly kill a man? Lack of accountability, impunity, he knew that he would not be held accountable under normal circumstances.
I want to see officers punished to the full extent of the law in every scenario where this happens going forward.
The medical examiner that attempted to exonerate the force by fudging his assessment that George passed away due to a "pre-existing" condition. It took independent examiners to clearly prove that this was not the case. Even in such a high profile case such as this one, the law is still attempting to resort to their trickery and lies.
Do you know how often this occurs in cases? Too many to call here.
I've spoken about the DA's in Georgia that attempted to cover up the Arbery shooting.
To the prosecutors that throw black men in jail under false charges, or trumped up confessions, to the judges that sentence these men, there is rot in every facet of the system here.
So please clarify to me, what do you require me to expound on in terms of what I'd like to see change? In fact, let me pose you a question. Tell me specifically, what do you know about this very subject?
I agree that accountability is crucial. Law is what our society is based on, and everyone should abide the same law.
The reason I have different opinion of what's going on in the US vs. HK is this very issue. And it's the very same idea how I am making my statements.
HK has no choice. They have a gov't who isn't willing to have dialogue. After all, they do whatever Beijing says, and if Beijing is letting Lam to change stance, nothing will change. So, going on the street, even if there's the risk people rioting, one'd just take it. Because that is the last resort. The protestors in HK made their requests loud and clear. Beijing NEVER had a dialogue. It abandoned the proposal because it gave up. But it's clear that Beijing doesn't want ANY dialogue whatsoever because it doesn't want to set a precedent of "things are negotiable".
Now turn to the US, what requests did the protestors or writer made? I'm sorry... other than #BlackLivesMatter, I didn't see shit. The people just started looting because the opportunity it gave them. IT IS THEM who doesn't want to have a dialogue, NOT the government.
That's why I suggested that if the dems had any cojones, they'd announce that anyone arrested for looting or rioting WOULD be prosecuted to the MAXIMUM EXTENT the law permits.
I'm just asking the full accountability to go both way. Because this is the only way we'd protect our society; that the law apply the same way to everyone, no matter what side you are on... right or wrong.
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I've tried a number of these places and I'm pretty sure at least a couple of these establishments are owned by ethnic-Indians as in they were part of the Indian diaspora that emigrated from East Africa.
I think the creator of this just filtered by "African Restaurants" and assumed they were all black owned.
What's everyone's thoughts on the planned protest at the Vancouver convention center tomorrow.
Do these protestors forget were in a fucking pandemic? My ass has been home doing my part while we have thousands making they're way downtown in crowded skytrains.
All of our commendable work in keeping the infection rate low goes down the toilet with these idiots.
What's everyone's thoughts on the planned protest at the Vancouver convention center tomorrow.
Do these protestors forget were in a fucking pandemic? My ass has been home doing my part while we have thousands making they're way downtown in crowded skytrains.
All of our commendable work in keeping the infection rate low goes down the toilet with these idiots.
What's everyone's thoughts on the planned protest at the Vancouver convention center tomorrow.
Do these protestors forget were in a fucking pandemic? My ass has been home doing my part while we have thousands making they're way downtown in crowded skytrains.
All of our commendable work in keeping the infection rate low goes down the toilet with these idiots.
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Gold is the money of kings;
Silver is the money of gentlemen;
Barter is the money of peasants;
But debt is the money of slaves.
-Norm Franz
It's interesting how welfare's secondary account comes out in times like these.
Do you care, welfare? Do you actually care if I go down the list of items I'd like to see concrete change in, and addressed?
I won't even delve into the issues as a result of red-lining, the lack pf parity in the justice system when it comes to those that are white versus black, to the issues of income in-equality and the systemic Jim Crow laws that the US government has had in place to put these communities in the position they are in today. If I knew you cared, perhaps I would put together in essay discussing these topics.
Very simply to answer your question on the highest scale, accountability.
You know why we keep seeing these videos? You know why that officer was able to stone face look at bystanders watching him slowly kill a man? Lack of accountability, impunity, he knew that he would not be held accountable under normal circumstances.
I want to see officers punished to the full extent of the law in every scenario where this happens going forward.
The medical examiner that attempted to exonerate the force by fudging his assessment that George passed away due to a "pre-existing" condition. It took independent examiners to clearly prove that this was not the case. Even in such a high profile case such as this one, the law is still attempting to resort to their trickery and lies.
Do you know how often this occurs in cases? Too many to call here.
I've spoken about the DA's in Georgia that attempted to cover up the Arbery shooting.
To the prosecutors that throw black men in jail under false charges, or trumped up confessions, to the judges that sentence these men, there is rot in every facet of the system here.
So please clarify to me, what do you require me to expound on in terms of what I'd like to see change? In fact, let me pose you a question. Tell me specifically, what do you know about this very subject?
Didn't you call me an alt-right Russian bot first?
I don't know much about this subject. I just think police brutality is bad.
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