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Old 06-07-2020, 07:05 PM   #351
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Some info on why those Buffalo cops walked out on their positions... It wasn't to support potential manslaughter as their union said...

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Wild that people even think this way and dedicate time to respond in this manner.
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Anyone notice that lots of businesses are getting heat for racism in the past as well? Specifically in Vancouver.

Belgard Kitchen (they deleted their instagram post which was incredibly long)
The Federal Store
Vancouver Candle Company

It's all coming out now.

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New Bill Would Abolish Qualified Immunity, Make It Easier To Sue Cops Who Violate Civil Rights

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A legal rule known as “qualified immunity” often shields police officers and other government officials from being sued by victims and their families, even if the officers violated their civil rights. And since prosecutors are loath to file criminal charges against government agents, suing rogue officers for damages in civil court is often the only recourse available to victims of government abuse.

But late Sunday night, Congressman Justin Amash (L-MI) revealed that he will introduce the End Qualified Immunity Act, which would eliminate a “permanent procedural roadblock for plaintiffs” that thwarts them from “obtaining damages for having their rights violated.”
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Here's a video I just came across that talks about what I posted on the last page. Racism is built into our world, and we all have it ingrained into us. He talks about an example where he, as a black man, had racist thoughts cross his mind about another black man.

He calls it "every day racism"

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I am interested to read people's comments on this thread about the PM's proposal to all premiers about all local police departments requiring officers wear a body camera. I'm sure Trudeau is going to push for body cams for all RCMP constables.

What are your thoughts?

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/06...-body-cameras/
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I am interested to read people's comments on this thread about the PM's proposal to all premiers about all local police departments requiring officers wear a body camera. I'm sure Trudeau is going to push for body cams for all RCMP constables.

What are your thoughts?

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/06...-body-cameras/
100% for it, every police officer should be wearing them and they should be on all the time when they are on the clock. It protects the citizens and it protects the officers, I can't think of a good reason not to have them.
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Here's a video I just came across that talks about what I posted on the last page. Racism is built into our world, and we all have it ingrained into us. He talks about an example where he, as a black man, had racist thoughts cross his mind about another black man.

He calls it "every day racism"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uZUvjAJGFkM
Does preference over lighter skin tone really have to do with racism tho?
e.g. Asian cultures have had a preference for lighter skin tone hundreds of years before they knew white and black people even exist...

how do u draw the line between color preference and racial prejudice...
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what if i only drive domestics, fap to tentacle porn, dislike african cuisine

do I deserve to have my business and livelihood destroyed or shamed?
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If you choose to drive domestics, all the power to you and that’s your right. But when you start feeling other people equal right to only drive Japanese cars someone infringes on your rights and you start arresting people just for driving Japanese cars, that’s the problem.

Reminds me of the gay marriage thing. Gays getting married effects peoples lives literally zero percent. But they felt that “the right for gays to get married strips me the right of my hetero marriage” or some shit.

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This is what happens during chaos. I saw the David Dorn video (I shouldn't have). Thankfully his killer was arrested yesterday.

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100% for it, every police officer should be wearing them and they should be on all the time when they are on the clock. It protects the citizens and it protects the officers, I can't think of a good reason not to have them.
i agree, people in general and they did a study on a pilot of the body cam i think in the US, people generally tend to behave better when being filmed.

just saw a dave chapelle thing on body cams though which was interesting, he said what good is the video evidence if no one cares to do anything about it. while it's good to have evidence, it's also up to courts to do something with it.
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Does preference over lighter skin tone really have to do with racism tho?
e.g. Asian cultures have had a preference for lighter skin tone hundreds of years before they knew white and black people even exist...

how do u draw the line between color preference and racial prejudice...
Not that I think you're lying, but I'd have to see a source for that before believing it blindly. Because most of the "white" desire in some Asian cultures are absolutely due to race.

Most recently, double eyelid surgery didn't exist at all, until American doctors started doing it to Korean prostitutes to make them look more western for soldiers during the war. It stuck around and is now the most popular plastic surgery in Korea.

And now there is an awareness campaign about whitening products in India

Just think how the European empires touched every corner of the globe over the last few hundred years, and the kind of influence they had when they did. It's not a small thing.
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100% for it, every police officer should be wearing them and they should be on all the time when they are on the clock. It protects the citizens and it protects the officers, I can't think of a good reason not to have them.
Not only that, they should be connected to the internet at all times (will be easy with 5G), and as soon as they go down, that officer returns to the station to get it working again.

Officer testimony can not be used in court unless it is coming from their body cam.

I wonder if there's a way to use Google's face blur technology so every cop's camera can be streamed... This would make them absolutely transparent and accountable.
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If you choose to drive domestics, all the power to you and that’s your right. But when you start feeling other people equal right to only drive Japanese cars someone infringes on your rights and you start arresting people just for driving Japanese cars, that’s the problem.
and if my car club is for daewoos and hyundais and I get a complaint i'm discriminating non-korean makes?

the issue with 'racism is ingrained': it becomes a witch hunt for those simply having certain tastes/preferences
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Not only that, they should be connected to the internet at all times (will be easy with 5G)
Cant do 5g we don't want another covid outbreak.
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whitewashed. i find that term insulting. rabble rabble rabble.

oh wait im white, apparently white people cant receive prejudice.
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I am interested to read people's comments on this thread about the PM's proposal to all premiers about all local police departments requiring officers wear a body camera. I'm sure Trudeau is going to push for body cams for all RCMP constables.

What are your thoughts?

https://www.citynews1130.com/2020/06...-body-cameras/
You'll find most cops want them or have been asking for them for a while now...

Like quasi said it protects people both ways.

Changes have to be made though to the reasonable expectation of privacy by the public.

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Can somebody explain to me how Minneapolis disbanding their police department will work?

Like every other city on planet Earth there will be crime and there will be a need for a police department.

What are they going to replace the police department with?

County Sheriffs?
State Troopers?
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They're discussing the idea of changing the structure of the force.

By disbanding that means they will be able to collapse the police unions that are holding back progress and change being initiated by elected officials. The Camden, NJ force did this recently, and had their officers re-apply for employment.

Another change they're looking to implement is beginning to silo emergency responses into different categories, instead of having police officers be the be-all end-all. For example, a mental health crisis? Send a social worker, rather than an officer with a gun, etc.
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mikeemhg summed it up pretty good. Today's podcast from NY Times also dived into this topic:

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/09/p...-protests.html
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I wonder how many people are going to lose their jobs for posting racist sh/t online.
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Alysha's comments make me deeply concerned for the safety and comfort of racialized staff and patients in your organization. I know that statements such as those made by ******** directly contradict the Vision, Purpose, and Values of VIHA, which is why I feel confident that you will not wish to associate your organization with anyone who would wish harm and violence on people of colour.
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