[Jegz]

im so sad..BUT DAMN RONDO WITH A THREE POINTER LOL

[wuuhoo]

^he had to make one before the season ended right? :D

[Gh0stRider]

3peat!!!

[palepilsenpin0y]

Props to Kobe! He's the man. He (though narrowly) deserved that Finals MVP and that championship.

But honestly, I kinda want him to not win next year. If he does another three-peat, people will start saying that he's as good as MJ, or better. Which Fucking makes me sick to my stomach because every time I hear someone or see someone post that Kobe is better, or will be better than Jordan, I just wanna smack that person in the face..... twice.

It's almost like comparing Wayne Gretzky and... Sidney Crosby.


But overall, I wanted Lakers to win against the Celtics tonight. And I was amazed at the defensive battle between the two, and the comeback being down 13 points in the 3rd quarter. Very impressive, and overall this whole post-season was just great to watch! Congrats L.A. Lakers, 2010!

[hotjoint]

Lakers gonna win it again next year if phil and fisher come back :)

[TRDood]

hahaha.. i was so confused when that salalabrine came out. he looked so out of place but at the same time, he was uber excited about his 60 seconds of finals game 7

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

http://www.nba.com/games/20100617/BOSLAL/gameinfo.html?ls=gt2hp0040900407


shit i feel so touched watching near the end


unbelieveable game 7
:thumbsup:

[RiceIntegraRS]

Props to Kobe! He's the man. He (though narrowly) deserved that Finals MVP and that championship.

But honestly, I kinda want him to not win next year. If he does another three-peat, people will start saying that he's as good as MJ, or better. Which Fucking makes me sick to my stomach because every time I hear someone or see someone post that Kobe is better, or will be better than Jordan, I just wanna smack that person in the face..... twice.

It's almost like comparing Wayne Gretzky and... Sidney Crosby.


But overall, I wanted Lakers to win against the Celtics tonight. And I was amazed at the defensive battle between the two, and the comeback being down 13 points in the 3rd quarter. Very impressive, and overall this whole post-season was just great to watch! Congrats L.A. Lakers, 2010!

I honestly do think Kobe is better than Jordan. Just like id say Crosby is better than Gretzky.

But if u compare Jordan in his time vs Kobe in his time, Jordan is obviously better.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

no one will EVER be better than jordan

seriously the dude is a legend, a god, an icon period.

he is not even comparable

[TRDood]

no one will EVER be better than jordan

seriously the dude is a legend, a god, an icon period.

he is not even comparable

until you see his gaint poster advertising for Hanes at the premium outlet.

i looked, a little part of me died instead. :cry:

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

:haha::haha::haha:

[wuuhoo]

celtics like their bruins, gotta learn how to close out series.. :troll:

[ws6ta]

shaq comment made me lol

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2010/06/17/0040900407_lal_postsound3.nba

[wuuhoo]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2010/06/17/0040900407_lal_postsound3.nba/
Artest's post game. ROFL

[hotjoint]

Told you so Mugen! AI is coming back

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/06/18/iverson.return.ap/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

[TRDood]

http://www.nba.com/video/channels/playoffs/2010/06/17/0040900407_lal_postsound3.nba/
Artest's post game. ROFL

LOL at the last bit about kobe.

[Not really racist!]

artest is fuckin halerious lol

he didnt even answer the questions jsut rambled on about shit

[palepilsenpin0y]

I honestly do think Kobe is better than Jordan. Just like id say Crosby is better than Gretzky.

But if u compare Jordan in his time vs Kobe in his time, Jordan is obviously better.

I will reply to you what I posted a couple months ago:

The fact that they use the phrase "The Michael Jordan of" (for example, "The Michael Jordan of Snowboarding") to express greatness and being the best says a lot already. The same way we would use Wayne Gretzky from Hockey, Michael Schumacher from F1, and Pelé from Soccer/Futbol. Michael Jordan (at least, to me) is the GREATEST OF ALL-TIME. He has every right to be "arrogant". To me, that's just a different way of expressing a form of confidence. If he is the best at what he does, and he has made his own name synonymous with the actual sport and the word "greatness" , why shouldn't he?


Kobe Bryant is also one of the best players to ever hold a basketball. He is also very 'cocky' in his own way, and he also has the right to do so. He lead his team to 4 championships (with help of course. But even Jordan needed help with his 6 championships), and he is currently also the best Laker right now. But he is NOT Jordan. Anyone who compares Jordan with great players such as Kobe Bryant and Lebron James is fighting a lost cause. It's just not right to do. Jordan IS basketball.


Like NBA Legend and former Laker Earvin "Magic" Johnson once said,
"There's Michael Jordan, and then there is the rest of us."

Kobe is great. He's awesome. Don't get me wrong, I'm also a Black Mamba fan. But he is and never will be better than Air Jordan.

Yes he did play pretty well in the playoffs. But keep in mind his performances were just good. Maybe great.

But not Jordan-esque.

*Start rant*

Kobe has extremely poor shot percentages almost every single game. He even shot 6 out of 24 for game 7 of the Finals which ALMOST cost them the title. Yes he did grab 15 rebounds. But honestly, that's just about it for that game. The highest he scored against Boston in the Finals was 38. And that was even a losing effort.

Jordan? That guy shoots well-above 50% in pretty much every single game. He can drop 40 points (even more) against teams in the Playoffs. He even scored 38 whopping points WHILE he had a fever! He even scored the game winning shot! And this was the FINALS, against a behemoth team of the Utah Jazz. They had two hall-of-famers, John Stockton and "The Mailman" Karl Malone. As well as a fantastic supporting cast. That was called the "flu game". Jordan dropped 38 points at his WORST condition. Kobe managed to merely tie that at his BEST.

And championships? IT FUCKING PISSES ME OFF that people say Kobe is only one championship away from tying Jordan, and he still has many years to come.

Well news flash people! Jordan was Finals MVP all 6 times. And He was the league's season MVP 5 out of those 6 times (Karl Malone was MVP for that one season, who Jordan beat in the Finals anyways. Twice) How bout Kobe? He was only Finals MVP twice, and this year he just BARELY deserved it. Keep in mind, during his first three-peat Shaq was averaging 38 points per game during the post-season! As well as 15 boards a game! Kobe was just the sidekick who played a big, but supporting role! Hence Shaq won all three Finals MVP, and earned it by a landslide.

I won’t argue that Lakers had a great supporting cast on all 5 years because Jordan too had terrific back-up, including fellow Hall-of-Famer Scottie Pippen.

Congratulations Kobe, you deserved the championship this year. You fought hard against the Suns and the Celtics (though almost being upset-ted by 8th seeded Oklahoma Thunder). You luckily won game 7 against Boston and narrowly won finals MVP. In all honestly, you sincerely are a superb player.

But please. Everyone, show some respect if you love or watch the game of Basketball and the NBA. Please. Never ever compare Kobe Bryant to Michael Jordan.

MJ is the best there was, the best there is, and the best there ever will be.

Thank you.

*End rant*

[cls55coupe]

Jordan has never lost in the finals. Kobe has lost twice. Enough said

[palepilsenpin0y]

^ And that too.

Oh well. Can't wait for next season boys!

[fliptuner]

Manute Bol died

Didn't know he was such a humanitarian.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jP6y7kUZi2nMmV52wpweo_vbhV5AD9GEJLHG4

[MR_BIGGS]

This debate gets brought up every 10 or so pages...

I'm not a Kobe fan at all, but I give the guy probs for the career he has had. He is the best player in the league today. To the Lebron lovers out there, win a ring first.

If I had a choice between MJ and Kobe (both in their prime) to take the last shot of the game, I would take Jordan.

WHY?

How many times has Kobe averaged a 50+ FG% in a season??

ZERO!

How many times has Jordan averaged a FG % of 50 or higher in a season?

6 with 3 of them being 53% or higher.

[411ken]

^ Kobe will not be Jordan. PERIOD... But should they be mentioned in the same sentence as greats? HELL YES.. If you dont' agree, then I don't know what to say.

[trd2343]

Kobe has extremely poor shot percentages almost every single game. He even shot 6 out of 24 for game 7 of the Finals which ALMOST cost them the title.

Michael Jordan shot for 26.3% in game 6 of the 1996 Finals between the Bulls and the Sonics.

Jordan? That guy shoots well-above 50% in pretty much every single game. He can drop 40 points (even more) against teams in the Playoffs.

Jordan:
1996 Finals - 41% against Sonics over 6 games
1997 Finals - 46% against Jazz over 6 games
1998 Finals - 43% against Jazz over 6 games

Bryant:
2008 Finals - 41% against Celtics over 6 games
2009 Finals - 43% against Magic over 5 games
2010 Finals - 41% against Celtics over 7 games

Kobe has also dropped 40 points (even more ) against teams in the Playoffs.


Keep in mind, during his first three-peat Shaq was averaging 38 points per game during the post-season! As well as 15 boards a game! Kobe was just the sidekick who played a big, but supporting role! Hence Shaq won all three Finals MVP, and earned it by a landslide.

2000 Playoffs: Shaq 31 pts/game 15 rbds/game 28 yrs; Kobe 21 pts/game 22 yrs
2001 Playoffs: Shaq 30 pts/game 15 rbds/game 29 yrs; Kobe 29 pts/game 23 yrs
2002 Playoffs: Shaq 28 pts/game 13 rbds/game 30 yrs; Kobe 27 pts/game 24 yrs

2006 Playoffs: Shaq 18 pts/game 34 yrs (champion); Kobe 27 pts/game 28 yrs (first round exit) Shaq 29 pts/game in first round @ 28 yrs
2007 Playoffs: Kobe 33 pts/game (first round exit) 29 yrs Shaq 27 pts/game in first round @ 29 yrs
2008 Playoffs: Kobe 30 pts/game (lost in the Finals) 30 yrs
2009 Playoffs: Kobe 30 pts/game (won in the Finals) 31 yrs Shaq 27 pts/game (second round exit) 31 yrs
2010 Playoffs: Kobe 29 pts/game (won in the Finals) 32 yrs Shaq 21 pts/game (lost in the Finals) 32 yrs

I don't think Michael and Kobe are equals. What I mean by that is that you can't really compare them. They are players from different era. Kobe entered the league at 18. Michael entered at 21. That's 3 years, and add the 2 years that Michael took off, that will be a total of 5 years. I think it's safe to say that 5 years make a big impact on a athlete's career. So what if Kobe went through the same career timeframe as Michael? Would he be as good? No one knows.

But if one is going to start throwing numbers around and say that Kobe rode Shaq to the 3 peat in LA, I don't think it's a fair comparison. Looking at numbers, Kobe performed just as good as Shaq when comparing them both at the same age.

All the numbers came from here
http://www.basketball-reference.com/

[hotjoint]

NBA draft tonight. Lets see some crazy trades!

[411ken]

^ speaking of trades.. it's not crazy but Hinrich just got traded to Wizards lol... All I can say is GOOD JOB BULLS! I've been waiting to see this guy get traded and his 9 or 10million per year contract.

Looks like the Knicks, Bulls, Heat are on a 3 way race to sign 2 of the big guys this summer.

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/06/24/wizards.bulls.aldridge/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

Can you imagine if the Bulls win and sign 2...

Rose/Wade/James - Rose/Wade/Bosh - Rose/James/Bosh

:drool

[Alpine50]

I think bosh and lebron will be on the bulls
Posted via RS Mobile (http://www.revscene.net/forums/announcement.php?a=228)

[hotjoint]

Chicago is sneaky. Good trade to free up more space yesterday. I wonder what they will do with wall, arenas and hinrich

[palepilsenpin0y]

Michael Jordan shot for 26.3% in game 6 of the 1996 Finals between the Bulls and the Sonics.



Jordan:
1996 Finals - 41% against Sonics over 6 games
1997 Finals - 46% against Jazz over 6 games
1998 Finals - 43% against Jazz over 6 games

Bryant:
2008 Finals - 41% against Celtics over 6 games
2009 Finals - 43% against Magic over 5 games
2010 Finals - 41% against Celtics over 7 games

Kobe has also dropped 40 points (even more ) against teams in the Playoffs.




2000 Playoffs: Shaq 31 pts/game 15 rbds/game 28 yrs; Kobe 21 pts/game 22 yrs
2001 Playoffs: Shaq 30 pts/game 15 rbds/game 29 yrs; Kobe 29 pts/game 23 yrs
2002 Playoffs: Shaq 28 pts/game 13 rbds/game 30 yrs; Kobe 27 pts/game 24 yrs

2006 Playoffs: Shaq 18 pts/game 34 yrs (champion); Kobe 27 pts/game 28 yrs (first round exit) Shaq 29 pts/game in first round @ 28 yrs
2007 Playoffs: Kobe 33 pts/game (first round exit) 29 yrs Shaq 27 pts/game in first round @ 29 yrs
2008 Playoffs: Kobe 30 pts/game (lost in the Finals) 30 yrs
2009 Playoffs: Kobe 30 pts/game (won in the Finals) 31 yrs Shaq 27 pts/game (second round exit) 31 yrs
2010 Playoffs: Kobe 29 pts/game (won in the Finals) 32 yrs Shaq 21 pts/game (lost in the Finals) 32 yrs

I don't think Michael and Kobe are equals. What I mean by that is that you can't really compare them. They are players from different era. Kobe entered the league at 18. Michael entered at 21. That's 3 years, and add the 2 years that Michael took off, that will be a total of 5 years. I think it's safe to say that 5 years make a big impact on a athlete's career. So what if Kobe went through the same career timeframe as Michael? Would he be as good? No one knows.

But if one is going to start throwing numbers around and say that Kobe rode Shaq to the 3 peat in LA, I don't think it's a fair comparison. Looking at numbers, Kobe performed just as good as Shaq when comparing them both at the same age.

All the numbers came from here
http://www.basketball-reference.com/


You did your research my friend. I was just reciting off the top of my head and memory, so kudos man. Thanks for the enlightenment!

[wuuhoo]

cant wait until the first major signing !

[Qmx323]

Bosh/Wade/James

any combo of the 3 would be crazy

most likely won't happen

[411ken]

I think Rose/Deng/James/Bosh/Noah is championship calibre

I bet Miami gets Wade/Johnson/Boozer or even Amare if the suns don't sign him.

[hotjoint]

lebron, wade, bosh in chicago.... Derrick rose will be happy :)

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^ speaking of trades.. it's not crazy but Hinrich just got traded to Wizards lol... All I can say is GOOD JOB BULLS! I've been waiting to see this guy get traded and his 9 or 10million per year contract.

Looks like the Knicks, Bulls, Heat are on a 3 way race to sign 2 of the big guys this summer.

http://www.nba.com/2010/news/06/24/wizards.bulls.aldridge/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt2

Can you imagine if the Bulls win and sign 2...

Rose/Wade/James - Rose/Wade/Bosh - Rose/James/Bosh

:drool

rose/james/bosh sounds exciting

[Not really racist!]

so apparently

wade/bosh/james had a meeting in miami about what they gonna do..
i see a new big 3 emerging

[shawn79]

they should go to NJ nets

[Qmx323]

if they want to win a championship as a big 3

they are going to have to take a BIG pay cut. 3 Superstars cant win a championship without a decent supporting cast (look at Celtics 08, they had Rondo, Perk and Glen Davis, and James posey)

[shawn79]

lebron SF
wade PG
johnson SG
Bosh PF
Amare C

to the Nets to help jay-z win a championship

[hotjoint]

^ :lol that would be cool if it happened but...

Rose - PG
Wade - SG
Lebron - SF
Bosh - PF
Noah - C

Now that looks more possible since Chicago got rid of Hinrich

[411ken]

^LOL That would both work if this is NBA 2K10!

Chicago can only afford 2 MAX contracts (after getting rid of Hinrich)... Miami can sign 3

This is why Chicago makes more sense as it would be a more "complete team" if Bosh/James signs there.

Rose/Deng/James/Bosh/Noah/Miller/Gibson/Warrick..

But IF Miami then that would be OK as well

Chalmers/Wade/James/Bosh/Beasley/Haslem/Richardson

It's funny how the Knicks aren't into these rumours ha....

[shawn79]

lebron forming his own dynasty with bosh and wade :o

[411ken]

^ I just can't see LeBron in Miami for some reason.. Miami is Wade's "team" and LeBron is too big of a name to be a "behind" him. This is why the Bulls is a better fit as that team doesn't belong to any player... we'll see..

Hope Lakers makes some moves too and add depth to the Frontcourt. Maybe even add someone like McGrady (cheap) for the 2nd unit scoring (We all know the problem the bench had)

Pierce opt out of his last year too...and wants a 4 year/90million deal...

[hotjoint]

it would be dope if the lakers got tmac for cheap

[MR_BIGGS]

The Chris Bosh era in Toronto may be officially over.

ESPN's NBA contributor Dan LeBatard reports that the Raptors are poised to complete a sign-and-trade deal with Miami that would see Bosh go to the Heat for power forward Michael Beasley, point guard Mario Chalmers and forward Joel Anthony.

According to Lebatard's Twitter message on Wednesday, Bosh and fellow potential free agent Wade share the same agent so there's no tampering involved.

Bosh opted out of the final year of his contract with the Raptors, leaving more than $17 million on the table to join a free agent class that includes Wade and LeBron James.

The seven-year veteran averaged career-highs with 24 points and 10.8 rebounds this year.

However, the Globe and Mail has disputed the initial report, with one source telling the paper, flat-out, "There is no truth to that."

With so few players under contract at the moment -- Beasley and Chalmers are the only two -- the Heat are, according the Globe, reluctant to move out players; preferring, instead, to give the Raptors a trade exception that would amount to nearly $16.5-million.

I like how TSN's title says BOsh's era in Toronto may be done....fuck it was over when the season ended....no way he is going to stay. Only thing left to know is where he's going and what they get in return if anything.

[411ken]

^Hmmm so the Heat are now willing to move Beasley/Chalmers/Anthony? If I were Colangelo, I'd be all over that. Maybe throw Calderon out with Bosh if they do a trade and ask for a 1strder.

[wuuhoo]

^Hmmm so the Heat are now willing to move Beasley/Chalmers/Anthony? If I were Colangelo, I'd be all over that. Maybe throw Calderon out with Bosh if they do a trade and ask for a 1strder.

agreed. That deal sounds good. They all knew Bosh wasnt going to stay in Toronto.

[hotjoint]

Bosh to the lakers for Odom or Bynum? :)

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2010/06/30/does-bosh-control-the-market/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

[wuuhoo]

^nah that trade wouldnt make much sense, especially to the lakers

[shawn79]

Bosh to the lakers for Odom or Bynum? :)

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2010/06/30/does-bosh-control-the-market/?ls=iref:nbahpt1

odom is always and will be in LA

[MR_BIGGS]

Bosh talking to Houston

[Qmx323]

Bosh is a Texas boy, the chances of him going there to team up with Yao, Kevin Martin and Ariza is big

[wuuhoo]

^its either bosh or scola


imagine the line though

yao/bosh/martin or battier / ariza / brooks and coaching under adelmen :O

[411ken]

- Phil Jackson is coming back!! 3 PEAT!!

- How healthy is Yao? If Bosh chooses the Rockets over the Heat, Bulls then he's crazy.. He's still pretty young and playing for your "home city" is crazy... He will NOT win a ring in Houston.

-LeBron says he'll make a decision by Monday..

- and last but not the least.. Rudy Gay - 5 years 81 million? LOL.. who's running the team again? Stu Jackson?

[hotjoint]

- Phil Jackson is coming back!! 3 PEAT!!

- How healthy is Yao? If Bosh chooses the Rockets over the Heat, Bulls then he's crazy.. He's still pretty young and playing for your "home city" is crazy... He will NOT win a ring in Houston.

-LeBron says he'll make a decision by Monday..

- and last but not the least.. Rudy Gay - 5 years 81 million? LOL.. who's running the team again? Stu Jackson?

If you think rudy gay's deal is insane what about darko's? who the hell agreed to pay him 5 mil a year for doing shit all? :rolleyes:

[411ken]

^ haha, forgot about that guy.. their agents are reallly really good.

[MR_BIGGS]

Guys are cashing in now..because when the labour talk start next year...its over.

[shawn79]

with all these NBA talk somebody should post picture of steve francis face when he got drafted by the vancouver grizzles LOL. HE WAS CRYING!

[wuuhoo]

we lost farmar?!

[411ken]

^Yep. He's a FA now and he wants to play for a team where he can be the starting PG. Steve Blake is the replacement...

[wuuhoo]

sigh.. wanted him to stay, but hes good enough to be a good PG for some team.

Now we need major bench production after losing him :(

[Not really racist!]

why why why
if i had to choose between farmar and vujavic it would be farmar stayinggg

[FatalCloud]

farmar's maddingly inconsistent. i think steve blake's a better point guard. i hope derek fisher stays though.

[hotjoint]

I like the steve blake pickup. He's a solid back up

[wuuhoo]

Amare to NY !

[MR_BIGGS]

Amare to New York and he's saying he'll get Parker, Melo and others to come with. I doubt it.

[411ken]

I just saw on the ticker that Melo just signed a 3 yr 65 million contract....

[Not really racist!]

fuck amare

new york is gonna be bunk,

[tacobell]

of all the teams in the running, what team would you like to see lebron in? or let me rephrase, if you were in lebron's position, what team would you pick?

I personally would pick the knicks. Biggest market, legendary arena, be the one remembered that turns this franchise around, will make more money in this market than anywhere else.

[liu13]

I just saw on the ticker that Melo just signed a 3 yr 65 million contract....

doesnt melo's contract expire next year, not this summer?

[shawn79]

if i were lebron id go to new jersey or the clippers

LA vs LA
lebron vs kobe

[411ken]

doesnt melo's contract expire next year, not this summer?

yup but i guess it's similar to Dirk/Pierce situation.. Maybe I misread it and said they offered him or something lol...

[411ken]

I wanna see LeBron with either Bulls/Knicks/Nets/Cavs/Heat. In that order.

And I put the Bulls 1st because he all of a sudden changed his number.
I put the Nets up there as he is very close to JayZ and Co.

[MR_BIGGS]

Wade postponed his press conference, not wanting any questions...tsn headline..WTF...these guys got to get off their high horse...if you've made a decision..fuck make it public.

[liu13]

Bosh is going to miami with Wade

[hotjoint]

hopefully we'll know by thursday where lebron, wade and bosh are going

[411ken]

All ppl care about are LeBron and Wade.. nobody gives a shit about bosh and johnson..haha

But Jjohnson getting 6yrs 120m? WOW... poor ATL

[MR_BIGGS]

REPORT: LEBRON, CAVS WANT BOSH IN CLEVELAND

LeBron James and Chris Bosh could well end up playing together when the NBA free agency dominoes fall later on in the week, but the city they play in could be Cleveland - and not Miami or Chicago.

According to ESPN NBA Insider Chris Broussard, the Toronto Raptors have told the Cavaliers that they would be willing to do a sign-and-trade that would send the power forward to Cleveland.

Broussard speculates that in return, Toronto could get Anderson Varejao and/or J.J. Hickson, along with Delonte West and perhaps Anthony Parker as well as a possible draft pick.

According to Broussard's sources, the Cavs and James are trying to convince Bosh to go to Cleveland as opposed to a bigger U.S. city that Bosh reportedly favours.

The report says that Bosh, however, is cool to the idea of playing in Cleveland. Sources indicate that Bosh would prefer to play with James in Chicago, Miami, or New Jersey.

One possible sticking point for Bosh's potential arrival in Cleveland would be the position the Cavs would want him to play.

Sports Illustrated's Chris Mannix is reporting that Bosh is apparently balking at the idea of playing centre and would prefer to remain at the power forward spot. According to Mannix, the Cavaliers would have to guarantee a legit centre would have to be in place before Bosh agrees to anything. This could pose a problem as both players who lined up at the five for the Cavs last season, Shaquille O'Neal and Zydrunas Ilgauskas are up for free agency, while Varejao who has played centre in the past may be involved in any potential deal to acquire Bosh.

Raptors general manager Bryan Colangelo spoke on the issue of using the sign-and-trade to get assets back for Bosh on Monday.

"I would say there are multiple options that could play themselves out and we're prepared for multiple options," Colangelo told the Canadian Press. "But at the end of the day things have to make sense for all sides...that's the part that ultimately needs to be decided.

"He might decide on a franchise and we may participate, we may not and that's kind of where things are."

[411ken]

Anyone else here think that Knicks signing Amare' is good? I personally don't like it as much... why? he is not as good defensively and gets injured and now he is signed for 100million guaranteed...

I personally like David Lee and i'm not sure why the knicks are letting him go.... I guess it's all about the "name"

[Not really racist!]

amare is gonna do squat in NY

mark my words

[MR_BIGGS]

amare is gonna do squat in NY

mark my words

That's not saying much....Amare is only as good as his point guard. No Nash, means his numbers will drop big time in my opinion. I can't even name the point guards on the Knicks.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

All ppl care about are LeBron and Wade.. nobody gives a shit about bosh and johnson..haha

But Jjohnson getting 6yrs 120m? WOW... poor ATL
nope no one gives a fuck about johnson lol

[hotjoint]

Amare to the knicks does nothing really. Nash is the one who made Amare look good. Other then his pick and rolls, what else does he have? His low post is pretty good and his outside shot is ok at best but his ppg will drop drastically. Unless they can do alot of pick and rolls plays or the knicks start playing run and gun ball

[Ilagon]

That's not saying much....Amare is only as good as his point guard. No Nash, means his numbers will drop big time in my opinion. I can't even name the point guards on the Knicks.

Haha me too!

[Porschedog]

yeahh david lee wooo!

[shawn79]

new york basketball is fucking hurt

[wuuhoo]

isnt NY PG chris duhon?

not much of a point gurad though. But they did say they were aiming for tony parker

[cow20xx]

isnt NY PG chris duhon?

not much of a point gurad though. But they did say they were aiming for tony parker

Chris duhon signed with the Magic. And i doubt tony parker is going to head to NY. Amare is in it for the money; even he know with his injury history he might not have many years left in the league to be considered a star player, obviously he is going for the big guaranteed contract. NY is just too desperate for ANY big name, i just hope amare doesnt turn out like another eddie curry.

[KuSouL]

it's a stupid trade ... i dont see how amare replacing david lee is an upgrade

[hotjoint]

so thursday 9PM EST is the day..

[411ken]

i just hope amare doesnt turn out like another eddie curry.

LOL.. I'm not a huge fan of Amare' but did you just say Eddie Curry? I'm pretty sure he is leaps and bound more talented than Curry. But the Suns need to make a move and add another front court presence

The Spurs need to do something and change it up...they already have a pretty good PG in George Hill so Parker can be traded...If he wants to go to NY, why not go for a Sign & Trade?. Lee for Parker

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

sweet baby jesus

looks like AI is planning to come back

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/416274-allen-iverson-ready-to-accept-reduced-role-how-many-offers-will-he-get?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=share

[411ken]

sweet baby jesus

looks like AI is planning to come back

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/416274-allen-iverson-ready-to-accept-reduced-role-how-many-offers-will-he-get?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=share

That's been reported awhile back lol. .The guy can still score in double figures easily and can be a good backup...maybe NY will take him in or Njersey

[Laundry]

Wade and Bosh to Miami!!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqfbP7K2kQPAwR_NSE6KyAm8vLYF?slug=ap-freeagency-heat


LeBron to announce his choice on TV thursday...i really think all this is getting to LeBron's head...

[Gumby]

Did you guys see what Chicago sent LeBron?

http://a323.yahoofs.com/ymg/ept_sports_nba_experts__57/ept_sports_nba_experts-926322447-1278177804.jpg?ymMYQZDDeaNCoa5i

Full story at http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Chicago-is-daring-LeBron-James-to-play-for-the-B?urn=nba,253378

Quite the bold move!

[Gt-R R34]

Miami gets bosh and wade,

but the other 10 guys are a bucket of basketballs and a toothpick.

[411ken]

Did you guys see what Chicago sent LeBron?

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Chicago-is-daring-LeBron-James-to-play-for-the-B?urn=nba,253378

Quite the bold move!


Wow! I think that's the nicest thing I've seen done haha.. I think LeBron stays in Cleveland. Wade stays in Miami. Joe Johnson stayed with ATL. Only Bosh leaves and go to one of these teams....

So much for bosh wanting to be the "main" guy and not a supporting role LOL

[411ken]

And what's up with LeBron wanting a 1 hour special on TSN to announce the freakign decision..holy shit...

I bet he will say "I've always loved Cleveland and would like to spend my entire career with 1 team, bla bla bla"

[wuuhoo]

bosh is on his way to miami !

[411ken]

I wonder if Seattle ever regret selling the Sonics.. I mean, now they have a solid team and Durant will sign a 5 yr extension....oh damn... i wish they were still in Seattle. makes things easier to watch a game live

[Qmx323]

BOSH AND WADE TEAMING UP IN MIAMI

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

my friend suspect toronto rap might move to a different city now with bosh leaving the team.

[hotjoint]

AI to the lakers would be :thumbsup:

[411ken]

It's official then.. .Bosh and Wade together...

Chris Bosh quote

Now, the ball is clearly in King James' court.

"I expect us to compete for a championship,'' Bosh told ESPN. "I think both Dwyane and I, we both wanted an opportunity where right away we would be competing. ... We're ready to sacrifice a lot of things in order to do that. It's not about the money. It's not about anything else except for winning. I'm a winner. Dwyane's a winner. We're going to bring winning to Miami.''

I found this sentence very very funny... how much did they sign for again??

[hotjoint]

They haven't signed yet because they're waiting on Lebron. He's gonna go to miami and if they can't trade beasley then they'll just all take paycuts. Nothing too bad to bring in a championship

[Fafine]

be funny as hell if they stack the team and still lose

[411ken]

^ They haven't signed because they CAN'T.. They have to wait until tomorrow as that's when FA's can sign new deals... I doubt LeBron will go to Miami..you know why? His EGO will get in the way... I mean.. 2 guys announced where they will sign...why would he go there and look like a follower...

And if it was all about winning for Bosh, he could have easily joined LBJ in Cavs as they have better players there in MO, Varejao, etc..... then again, south beach sounds good too.

[411ken]

But if LBJ does join, bad timing.. They should have done it all together and announced where they will be playing. cuz now, as i've said, he'll just look like a follower haahhahah

[hotjoint]

^ ahhaha

[Porschedog]

YEAHHH GO MIAMI!

[Not really racist!]

haha fuck u lebron

amare looks liek a retard too right now

[KuSouL]

LEBRON + ROSE GOGOGOGOGOOGGO

I'm a diehard boston fan so ... I'm glad the way things went for celtics
but now we gotta find a whole new bench glglglglglgl

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Ai can go to miami too


lol


than lebron can be the follower


super stack sheet

lol

[Porschedog]

might as well take in shaq too =]

[hotjoint]

that would be nuts if all 3 went to miami then ai went there too. He needs to win a ring and that will pretty much guarantee it if LBJ goes there

[shawn79]

the heat is still wades team

[411ken]

^ Exactly

[411ken]

Boozer agreed to sign with the bulls

Rose Deng ____ Boozer Noah

Looks good to me!

[Porschedog]

Nate Robinson for max contract! GOGOGO

[Qmx323]

knicks are trying to lure Carmelo to opt out next year

that might piss off amare though

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

that would be nuts if all 3 went to miami then ai went there too. He needs to win a ring and that will pretty much guarantee it if LBJ goes there

totally


Wade
AI

Lebron as powerforward/small forward
haslem/beasley

bosh

[hotjoint]

ESPN.com's Chris Broussard: Sources say LeBron James will sign with Miami Heat barring late change
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[shawn79]

beasley most likely going to toronto for cap room for the big 3

AI to MIA = :gtfo:

[shawn79]

:agree: RUN MIA
http://i31.tinypic.com/5fnk7b.jpg

[411ken]

knicks are trying to lure Carmelo to opt out next year

that might piss off amare though

Why would Amare' be pissed if the knicks are trying to get Melo? lol

[411ken]

Wade will be a HERO in Miami if LBJ signs too... can you imagine he got 2 of the best players in the NBA to go there.... Boy, it would be nice to be a season ticket holder in Miami...

And for the Raptors, they just made an offer to Linas Kleiza LOL

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

^

ya i dont get it either

[dachinesedude]

As much as i want to see James/Wade/Bosh play on one team, i dont think he's gonna go there. If James wants to keep his "King James" status and build a legacy for himself, he will NOT change teams. Guys like Kobe and Jordan (tho he had Pippen with him for the most part) never gave up on their team. I think he should stay with the Cavs cuz that team will go to the shithole if he leaves, and that will be a huge letdown for the city

Miami's is Wade's team, he won a championship there too, no matter how big James is, he can't touch that

But if egos aside, james/wade/bosh starting lineup with pay riley coaching, HOLY SHIT

[Ilagon]

Do u guys know what channel Lebron's announcement will be on? (for those of who don't get ESPN)
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[Mugen EvOlutioN]

who the fuck is that? lol Linas Kleiza

[hotjoint]

Do u guys know what channel Lebron's announcement will be on? (for those of who don't get ESPN)
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TSN

[hotjoint]

who the fuck is that? lol Linas Kleiza

He played for Denver

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

OHHHHHH that white dude


lol

[tacobell]

Boozer agreed to sign with the bulls

Rose Deng ____ Boozer Noah

Looks good to me!

No three point threat and none of these guys can hit an outside shot consistently. They need a least one shooter to give them better spacing on the floor.

I like these players individually, but can't see them doing much damage in the playoffs.

[411ken]

No three point threat and none of these guys can hit an outside shot consistently. They need a least one shooter to give them better spacing on the floor.

I like these players individually, but can't see them doing much damage in the playoffs.

They can fill the blank with the 3pt shooter...i.e. go try and sign Mike Miller as we all know he can score out there....

Rose - Slasher
Deng- Mid Range
Milller - 3pt
Boozer - Inside scoring
Noah- Rebounds


I think the NBA needs to set a rule where they can only have 2 MAX contract guys or something.. as this will be the trend now...

[411ken]

Durant 5 yrs 86million... What a STEAL for the THunders

[Qmx323]

Why would Amare' be pissed if the knicks are trying to get Melo? lol


Amare signed with the knicks for practically a max contract to be the main man in NY

Stating "the knicks are back", Amare thinks hes the missing piece to make the Knicks a winner, which hes not.

He's probably not gonna want another max guy next to him taking the spotlight away.

Unless he puts his ego in check and provided doesn't demand to be traded half way through the 10-11 season due to losing.

You can't win in the post season by just plugging in max players.

[Porschedog]

LOL raptors probably arent going to get anything out of the chris bosh deal if they arent willing to take beasley. GG raptors

[411ken]

Amare signed with the knicks for practically a max contract to be the main man in NY

Stating "the knicks are back", Amare thinks hes the missing piece to make the Knicks a winner, which hes not.

He's probably not gonna want another max guy next to him taking the spotlight away.

Unless he puts his ego in check and provided doesn't demand to be traded half way through the 10-11 season due to losing.

You can't win in the post season by just plugging in max players.

lol, i'm sorry but are you serious? Didn't see say that he'll be trying to "Recruit" Melo/Parker and join him in NY? if he said that then why in the world would he be upset.

And I'm sure he would rather make the post season than having a shitty season and not make the playoffs.

[wuuhoo]

LOL raptors probably arent going to get anything out of the chris bosh deal if they arent willing to take beasley. GG raptors

whts wrong with beasley? Right now the raptors have no real scorer to pass to. beasley can easily develop in T.O

But if they dont take him , lol GG for miami

[shawn79]

raps need to take beasley to sign lebron.

[MR_BIGGS]

TO THE HEAT BABY!!!

[411ken]

LOL

[hotjoint]

Told you he was gonna go to the heat with wade and bosh. Now we wait for AI to say he's going to the heat too and wait to see who wins lakers vs heat in the finals

[411ken]

Told you he was gonna go to the heat with wade and bosh. Now we wait for AI to say he's going to the heat too and wait to see who wins lakers vs heat in the finals

Yea... you sure told us ...... ;) hahahahah jk

[Fafine]

shall be interesting

[Qmx323]

lol, i'm sorry but are you serious? Didn't see say that he'll be trying to "Recruit" Melo/Parker and join him in NY? if he said that then why in the world would he be upset.

And I'm sure he would rather make the post season than having a shitty season and not make the playoffs.


That's not up to him, that's up to the team they will try to surround him with until the 11-12 season

that being said its just a personal opinion about Amares situation in NY right now, as no one knows for sure whether Melo and Parker will leave their respective teams to join Amare.

Its almost like the Heat right now, can 3 Star players set aside their ego's and co-exist and win a championship?

The Celtics did it in 08, while obviously the big 3 in Boston had nowhere near the star power that the Heat have now, the Celtics did it with a solid bench and a young star in Rajon Rondo

So who knows what will really happen and what stories may develop

[411ken]

HAHAHAHAHA Cavs fan burning his jersey!!

[wuuhoo]

wow I never would have thought he would go miami ..

Now depending whos on the supporting cast, I dont see how miami cant win the east

[411ken]

He looked hurt seeing the fans burn his jersey...

[Audi-Quattro]

Stacked teams does NOT always win championships
Really looking forward to this coming season

[hotshot1]

I've lost a ton of respect for Lebron after this. He chose not to have his own team but to be second banana on another team (It's clearly DWade's team) ... while he's the best fucking player in the league.

MJ would have never done this, neither would Kobe. Even Pippen was mad that he didn't get the last shot in the 94' playoffs but Lebron CHOOSING to be the 2nd bana is just fucking disgraceful.

Even though they have 2 of the 3 best players in the league, they're not gonna win because of a lack of a supporting cast.

I can't wait to watch them fail.

[dachinesedude]

this is a huge slap in the face for the city of cleveland, lets see whats gonna happen when the heat pay a visit to the cavs

[liu13]

he has the chance to win 5+ rings now =D
i'm happy for him, they are providing us fans with tons of entertainment for years to come

[411ken]

I've lost a ton of respect for Lebron after this. He chose not to have his own team but to be second banana on another team (It's clearly DWade's team) ... while he's the best fucking player in the league.

MJ would have never done this, neither would Kobe. Even Pippen was mad that he didn't get the last shot in the 94' playoffs but Lebron CHOOSING to be the 2nd bana is just fucking disgraceful.

Even though they have 2 of the 3 best players in the league, they're not gonna win because of a lack of a supporting cast.

I can't wait to watch them fail.

I feel the same way 100%...... Although I'm a Wade fan (I have his jersey as well), I don't see myself cheering for them at all now....

Anyone willing to bet that this will now be the pattern/trend of the NBA? Next year, it will be Melo making his "decision" and join Kobe! hahaah jk

[Ilagon]

this is a huge slap in the face for the city of cleveland, lets see whats gonna happen when the heat pay a visit to the cavs

I hope Cleveland will give him a nice applause, it's not liked he played half-assed ala Vince Carter. The fact is, he wants to win a championship, which is what most professional athletes strive for in their respective sports. So far, the Cavs have done nothing to show LBJ a change in their team, except the coaching change. I'm sure there were discussions between the two parties about what the Cavs would do in order to help LBJ win a championship.

I would find it amusing if Shaq finds his way to Miami as well for a lower salary to maybe finish off his career with a championship. If he can prove his relevance. All I know is that 2010/11 season is gonna be awesome. :thumbsup:

[Jermyzy]

They are not guaranteed to win the championship. I think a healthy Lakers team will give them a run, they have more depth. Miami will have to fill their roster with minimum salary players (currently no good shooters). Also, how will their chemistry be like? With the game on the line, will all 3 players demand the ball? When the Boston big three was formed, they were all veteran players who realized what it would take to win, and willing to give up individual stats to win. Not sure if the same can be said with D-wade, Lebron, and Bosh.

[Alpine50]

This team is fucking STACKED lol I'm hopin on this bangwagon I don't care if anyone makes fun of me lol ditching magic, still love Lewis and Howard though
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[Porschedog]

THE NEW BIG 3 YEAHHHHH

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

plz AI


go to heat for dirt cheap...for once go to a decent team.....

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

than Shaq should go back to miami


AI
wade
lebron
bosh
shaq

LOL

[hotjoint]

Miami is pretty much a lock to win the east now but taking the championship from the lakers in the final will be no easy task. Anyone who thinks that the heat are going to roll over every team should think twice. Basketball is a team game so the 9 other players will have to be factors too. They can't just stand around and pass the ball to the big 3 and expect to win game like that. It's going to be an interesting upcoming season

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

true
and gotta pray no injures were to happen


rit now they got no bench

[Ilagon]

The East will be fun to watch, but I'm still gonna be rooting for the Lakers so Phil Jackson can get his fourth three-peat.
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[Porschedog]

stoudemire is a loner

[411ken]

The Heat bandwagon is filling up faster than ever....o baby... I was a Heat/Wade fan.. but now.. i don't know..

I enjoyed the interview with Barkley.. I dont' know about you, but I agree with him that LBJ's legacy will take a hit... 25 years old and piggybacking on Wade/Bosh...

[411ken]

Christmas day games

Celtics @ Lakers
Heat @ Cavaliers

Rating records will be broken... haha

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

The Heat bandwagon is filling up faster than ever....o baby... I was a Heat/Wade fan.. but now.. i don't know..

I enjoyed the interview with Barkley.. I dont' know about you, but I agree with him that LBJ's legacy will take a hit... 25 years old and piggybacking on Wade/Bosh...

AI, 34 years old...sure needs piggybacking as hell

lol

[Alpine50]

Nvm I ain't ditching my magic boyz lol but the heats first then magic ha next years season is going to be crazy. I hope i can go see a game in Portland
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[MR_BIGGS]

The 3 of them combine for like 80+ points..lol..will be interesting to watch.

[Simulated]

every great NBA legend has had a partner in crime (or 2) to win championships with. i don't see him joining bosh and wade as any different. the only thing is, he probably would have done away with the whole 1 hour special to announce it.

[shawn79]

none of them would want to pass the ball because their all ball hogs

[ZenZa]

team stackers! even up the teams!

[MDMA]

Lol at the hater comments, flash, king, cb4 aint gna be stoped
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[shawn79]

^ say hi to kobe gasol artest when spring 2011 comes

[Audi-Quattro]

every great NBA legend has had a partner in crime (or 2) to win championships with. i don't see him joining bosh and wade as any different. the only thing is, he probably would have done away with the whole 1 hour special to announce it.

No the difference is those NBA legends didn't ditch their team to win championships, they build the championship team from where they were from. Like Barkley said, he's only 25... he shouldn't be doing this when he's still so young

[KuSouL]

may be just me but like i said in the other unecessarily made topic

history shows that putting 3 superstars together doesn't really mean they'll make it to the finals ~ i like wade and im happy for him but i really would have liked to see LBJ stay with Cavs (already a playoff contender) or join the Bulls (will become a strong playoff contender)

extra little note ~ Mike Miller signed with Heat right when he heard LBJ is joing Heat
so there's your starting line-up

[BLUETIGER]

http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/news/gilbert_letter_100708.html


Open Letter to Fans from Cavaliers Majority Owner Dan Gilbert
Dear Cleveland, All Of Northeast Ohio and Cleveland Cavaliers Supporters Wherever You May Be Tonight;

As you now know, our former hero, who grew up in the very region that he deserted this evening, is no longer a Cleveland Cavalier.

This was announced with a several day, narcissistic, self-promotional build-up culminating with a national TV special of his "decision" unlike anything ever "witnessed" in the history of sports and probably the history of entertainment.

Clearly, this is bitterly disappointing to all of us.

The good news is that the ownership team and the rest of the hard-working, loyal, and driven staff over here at your hometown Cavaliers have not betrayed you nor NEVER will betray you.

There is so much more to tell you about the events of the recent past and our more than exciting future. Over the next several days and weeks, we will be communicating much of that to you.

You simply don't deserve this kind of cowardly betrayal.

You have given so much and deserve so much more.


In the meantime, I want to make one statement to you tonight:

"I PERSONALLY GUARANTEE THAT THE CLEVELAND CAVALIERS WILL WIN AN NBA CHAMPIONSHIP BEFORE THE SELF-TITLED FORMER ‘KING’ WINS ONE"

You can take it to the bank.

If you thought we were motivated before tonight to bring the hardware to Cleveland, I can tell you that this shameful display of selfishness and betrayal by one of our very own has shifted our "motivation" to previously unknown and previously never experienced levels.

Some people think they should go to heaven but NOT have to die to get there.

Sorry, but that's simply not how it works.

This shocking act of disloyalty from our home grown "chosen one" sends the exact opposite lesson of what we would want our children to learn. And "who" we would want them to grow-up to become.

But the good news is that this heartless and callous action can only serve as the antidote to the so-called "curse" on Cleveland, Ohio.

The self-declared former "King" will be taking the "curse" with him down south. And until he does "right" by Cleveland and Ohio, James (and the town where he plays) will unfortunately own this dreaded spell and bad karma.

Just watch.

Sleep well, Cleveland.

Tomorrow is a new and much brighter day....

I PROMISE you that our energy, focus, capital, knowledge and experience will be directed at one thing and one thing only:

DELIVERING YOU the championship you have long deserved and is long overdue....



Dan Gilbert
Majority Owner
Cleveland Cavaliers

[hotshot1]

I don't understand how anyone can like the Heat now.

Just the fact that Lebron was gonna do a 1 hr special to announce his pick was a kick in the nuts to Cavs fans everywhere. It was the most unprofessional thing I've ever watched in my life. I was shaking my head when they were showing Lebron in different jerseys. Also, Cleveland fans have suffered enough. I can't believe he chose to build it up like that and choose a different team. What a dick.

Also, Kevin Durant announced his new deal over Twitter. He didn't have a 1 hr special. Matter of fact, no one's ever had a 1 hr special to announce his deal.

Bosh... I don't even know where to start. As soon as he became a free agent, he was on Twitter, saying how he was so excited to choose a new team. He even asked his followers or whatever to choose a team for him. Toronto fans should boo his ass just like they do to Wince.

I still like DWade though.

Anyway, they're gonna be good but they're still gonna be missing some pieces. If they get Mike Miller, I guess that fills their 3 pt shooter slot. They still need a rebounder, a solid interior defender (Come on, Bosh is gonna get killed my Bynum and Gasol), a point guard, and some veteran guys that know their roles. They won't until they fill up the holes with solid role players.

Superstars can't win a championship by themselves.
Kobe and Shaq needed Horry, Fox, Fisher
Boston's big 3 needed Posey, PJ Brown
Even Jordan needed BJ Armstrong, Grant, Paxon, Kerr, Kukoc...

Anyway, I still can't belive Lebron chose to ride shotgun to DWade instead of leading his own team.

/end rant

[411ken]

^ exactly.. that's all everyone is debating about.... as they say...everyone NEVER gave Kobe his credit until the last 2 championship because he was always labelled as the "2nd guy" to shaq...Now that he's won the last 2 championship as the "Main guy" it means more.

What will LBJ say...I'm the best, it took 2 superstars Bosh/Wade to win one.... (I hope I don't hear "Kobe has Gasol" as Gasol isn't as big a name as Wade/Bosh). He could have stayed in Cleveland then signed Boozer or Lee, if they wanted to be like the Lakers.

I'm sure winning the championship is great but yea, I'd have to agree wit Barkley's comments (I rarely agree to his comments)

[Simulated]

shaq won 4 championships and none of them were with orlando but for me, that doesn't take anything away from his legacy. again, i think just lebron drew a lot of negative criticism because of how he made his decision with his prima donna antics.

[hotjoint]

Looks like the big 3 wont have to take a paycut with Beasley getting sent to the wolves for a 2nd rounder. Mike Miller eh? AI next?

[taylor192]

^ say hi to kobe gasol artest when spring 2011 comes

Artest needs to become a scorer before this trio will be truly unstoppable.

[taylor192]

Shaq is currently a free agent, and would make a great backup to Bosh.

[411ken]

Looks like the big 3 wont have to take a paycut with Beasley getting sent to the wolves for a 2nd rounder.

And a swap of 1st rounders..

[Jermyzy]

Artest needs to become a scorer before this trio will be truly unstoppable.

Did anybody else see Artest's post-game interview after the championship game?! :lol

[Jermyzy]

Shaq is currently a free agent, and would make a great backup to Bosh.

I don't think Bosh wants to play centre...most likely playing the PF position. If they can't find a cheap vet to fill in the centre position, most likely Joel Anthony will start for them.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

its either now or never

[Porschedog]

lol the cav's owner needs to relax

[MR_BIGGS]

shaq won 4 championships and none of them were with orlando but for me, that doesn't take anything away from his legacy. again, i think just lebron drew a lot of negative criticism because of how he made his decision with his prima donna antics.

Lebron is going what Shaq did. Shaq couldn't get it done himeself in Orlando (getting swept by Houston in the finals) so he went to the Lakers and won himself 3 rings. Did it tarnish his legacy? Perhaps only for the first year he was in LA. He wanted to win, and thought LA would help him do that.

[Simulated]

^ agreed. shaq moved to LA and won 3, them moved to miami and won 1. no one is ever going to take those 4 rings and MVP award away from him. no one is going to question his dominance in the 90's and early 2000's.

lebron just made the move. he hasn't even played 1 game with the new team yet. lets sit back and watch how many (if any) championships the trio can win before we assess anyone's legacy.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

tats cuz penny kept getting injured

[MR_BIGGS]

ah man...I loved Penny and Lil Penny...

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

their commercials were the best

[Jermyzy]

In case you haven't seen it, I have to post this :lol

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oda0WkFcus0

[Tegra_Devil]

hahaha^

[palepilsenpin0y]

^^ HAHAHA I swear Artest is such a clown.


Anyways as far as the Big 3 goes, yes Miami is gonna have a tough time finding good supporting players to fill the roster. Yes, Lebron probably should have opted to go to either Chicago, New York, or even stayed in Cleveland.

But I was and always will be a D-Wade fan. I go where this guy goes because I have nothing but respect for him. From all the active NBA players right now, he's definitely my favorite.

Miami will either take it all the way and win the championship if they fill up the team with good supporting players and find chemistry, or fail hard and disappoint without having a strong supporting cast.

They need to find a strong Center, and build up a reliable bench... PRONTO!

[MR_BIGGS]

^^ Derek Fisher met with the Heat yesterday. Maybe Shaq and Iverson are washed up, but with this big three they could be decent role players.

[Not really racist!]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO FIISHERRRRR

lakers need mr clutch

[Jermyzy]

Reports that Juwan Howard and Ilgauskus (sp?) are considering Heat as well

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

comeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee AIIIIIIIIIIII

[palepilsenpin0y]

I highly doubt D-Fish will leave the Lakers. He will receive soooooo much heat for it (lol play-on-words) from L.A. and he will be forever deemed as a Bandwagon player much like Lebron is right now. Plus I would assume he is genuinely loyal to both Phil Jackson and Kobe.


As for AI, why not. That guy deserves a ring anyways and he worked so hard and came up close. He may be past his prime, but he is still AI and he would provide excellent support as the Heat's point guard.

AI + Shaq wouldn't be too bad. Veterans would only benefit the Heat considering the team is run by 3 very young superstars.

[Not really racist!]

LeBron went South because his mom went West.

[Fcukedd]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CSyRhlGae-M&playnext_from=TL&videos=j6s1ObLnqhQ

[Vale46Rossi]

Come on Iverson!

My favorite player :D

But hmm Tony Allen has left Celtics and went to Grizz


http://www.bostonherald.com/sports/basketball/celtics/view.bg?articleid=1267290&srvc=home&position=active

[shawn79]

NBA feels like they have lost a superstar after lebron going to heat

[wuuhoo]

brazilian blur to the raptors for turk

and childress to phx :D

[mkchoi0801]

I don't understand how anyone can like the Heat now.

Just the fact that Lebron was gonna do a 1 hr special to announce his pick was a kick in the nuts to Cavs fans everywhere. It was the most unprofessional thing I've ever watched in my life. I was shaking my head when they were showing Lebron in different jerseys. Also, Cleveland fans have suffered enough. I can't believe he chose to build it up like that and choose a different team. What a dick.

Also, Kevin Durant announced his new deal over Twitter. He didn't have a 1 hr special. Matter of fact, no one's ever had a 1 hr special to announce his deal.

Bosh... I don't even know where to start. As soon as he became a free agent, he was on Twitter, saying how he was so excited to choose a new team. He even asked his followers or whatever to choose a team for him. Toronto fans should boo his ass just like they do to Wince.

I still like DWade though.

Anyway, they're gonna be good but they're still gonna be missing some pieces. If they get Mike Miller, I guess that fills their 3 pt shooter slot. They still need a rebounder, a solid interior defender (Come on, Bosh is gonna get killed my Bynum and Gasol), a point guard, and some veteran guys that know their roles. They won't until they fill up the holes with solid role players.

Superstars can't win a championship by themselves.
Kobe and Shaq needed Horry, Fox, Fisher
Boston's big 3 needed Posey, PJ Brown
Even Jordan needed BJ Armstrong, Grant, Paxon, Kerr, Kukoc...

Anyway, I still can't belive Lebron chose to ride shotgun to DWade instead of leading his own team.

/end rant

Sorry but you're just a jealous tool. Contract is over. An athlete has every right in the world to choose where he / she wants to play for. STFU please.

[wuuhoo]

I dont know why some are you guys are still upset. Miami got the big 3, big deal.

We all knew Bosh was going to leave TO, no doubt. James leaving Cleveland was a shock, but he even said himself: He wants to win.

Cleveland, with or without James is still a pretty good team in the east.


But really, at the end of the day, Miami may look good on paper, BUT they are not guranteed to win it all period.

[KuSouL]

dunno which of you here is a celtics fan ~ but i am and im a little pissed that tony allen left ... dunno why celtics wouldn't give him that 3rd year he's still young-ish and totally able to play

on a side note rasheed wallace is thinking of ... uh i guess it would be coming out of retirement?

but for me tony allen > rasheed wallace so DISAPPOINTED
hopefully we can keep nate robinson :(

[Vale46Rossi]

dunno which of you here is a celtics fan ~ but i am and im a little pissed that tony allen left ... dunno why celtics wouldn't give him that 3rd year he's still young-ish and totally able to play

on a side note rasheed wallace is thinking of ... uh i guess it would be coming out of retirement?

but for me tony allen > rasheed wallace so DISAPPOINTED
hopefully we can keep nate robinson :(



I think it sucks for him to leave, I hope they can keep a rope on Ray Allen...

Rondo is doing really well now and just keep on climbing... nate is a great player and has helped celtics bench a lot.

Lets Hope Celtics can keep the team together.

[411ken]

According to various reports, the Raptors are on the verge of shipping Hedo Turkoglu to Phoenix for guard Leandro Barbosa and forward Dwayne Jones.

The Raptors would then reportedly ship Jones and guard Jose Calderon to the Charlotte Bobcats for forward Boris Diaw and centre Tyson Chandler.

Good moves so far by Bryan Colangelo if this all happens... thumbs up.. loooks like he is building another Phoenix suns... now, what about getting rid of Triano!!

Barbosa/Jack
DeRozan
Diaw
Bargnani
Chandler

It's no title contention or anything but is capable of somehow sneak into 8th in the east.

[MR_BIGGS]

Talking to some Toronto peeps, they are fairly happy with these moves. Colangelo pretty much moved 2 shitty contracts out of Toronto.

[hotjoint]

thats a good pickup for toronto. Those 3 guys are vets and could really help the team get into the 8th spot

[wuuhoo]

Season should be fun to watch.



OT: anyone play bball at sfu gyms?

[MR_BIGGS]

According to various reports, the Raptors are on the verge of shipping Hedo Turkoglu to Phoenix for guard Leandro Barbosa and forward Dwayne Jones.

The Raptors would then reportedly ship Jones and guard Jose Calderon to the Charlotte Bobcats for forward Boris Diaw and centre Tyson Chandler.

Good moves so far by Bryan Colangelo if this all happens... thumbs up.. loooks like he is building another Phoenix suns... now, what about getting rid of Triano!!

Barbosa/Jack
DeRozan
Diaw
Bargnani
Chandler

It's no title contention or anything but is capable of somehow sneak into 8th in the east.

Michael Jordan, part owner of the Bobcats has stopped the deal from happening.

[hotjoint]

:lol Jordan royally fucked the raps. Chander is going to the mavs instead for dampier and another few players. Damn I was really hoping that the raps woulda gotten diaw and chander.

[411ken]

"After Charlotte's potential deal with Toronto fell through, the Bobcats sent Chandler and fellow center Alexis Ajinca to the Dallas Mavericks on Tuesday for center Erick Dampier, forward Eduardo Najera, shooting guard Matt Carroll and cash considerations."

I like Chandler.. he is effective when healthy and not taking stupid fouls..... too bad for the Raps.. They better trade Turk to the Suns soon before they change their minds as well

[411ken]

Michael Jordan, part owner of the Bobcats has stopped the deal from happening.

I'm pretty sure MJ is the owner or majority owner of the team.. I remember hearing/reading the news about him being the 1st former player to own his own team.

[kchan]

Ilgauskas to miami for 1.3million
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[liu13]

the Mavs will be picking up a lot of new personnel

[dachinesedude]

not big 3 + no names afterall for Miami, the team is starting to take shape

starting:
Wade, James, Bosh, Ilgauskas

Bench:
Haslem, Miller

time to get a decent PG

[Alpine50]

Big Z off to Miami, they Need a sick pg now
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[411ken]

Big Z off to Miami, they Need a sick pg now
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Lol... I don't think they can get a "sick" PG with the Cap hit they have.... Mario Chalmers ISN'T that bad...

I doubt Big Z signing there will scare anyone though...as long as they keep signing Older peeps, it's all good with me lol

[411ken]

Oh... Fisher stays with the Lakers!!!! :thumbsup::thumbsup:

[MR_BIGGS]

Raja Bell to the Lakers?

He's meeting with Kobe 2morrow.

[neo_geo74]

Lol... I don't think they can get a "sick" PG with the Cap hit they have.... Mario Chalmers ISN'T that bad...

I doubt Big Z signing there will scare anyone though...as long as they keep signing Older peeps, it's all good with me lol

I disagree. I think Big Z will be key for them in the playoffs.

As a Lakers fan, I predict Miami to steamroll other teams in the season but then get a rude awakening in the playoffs. Big Z is gonna help them get over that hump. Plus he played many years with LBJ, they already know how to play with each other.

Before this announcement, I was still pretty confident that Lakers would beat them next year if they met in the Finals, but now, I'm not so sure.

[Alpine50]

Big z's pretty good man, solid D nice and decent jumpers, hits 3's every once in a while
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[Not really racist!]

a bit soft don't u think...

z and bosh would get pummeled by gasol and bynum and probably perkins and big baby

[411ken]

I disagree. I think Big Z will be key for them in the playoffs.

As a Lakers fan, I predict Miami to steamroll other teams in the season but then get a rude awakening in the playoffs. Big Z is gonna help them get over that hump. Plus he played many years with LBJ, they already know how to play with each other.

Before this announcement, I was still pretty confident that Lakers would beat them next year if they met in the Finals, but now, I'm not so sure.

It could help them or it could hurt them... first thing that came to my mind is Shaq with the Suns...but we'll see I guess....but I guess, coming off the bench he won't be that bad.

As for Raja might be going to the lakers.. I like it...bringing in some great defenders

[Alpine50]

Yeah a little but I think he'll be a great boost for them, he's held up against shaq and those guys alright
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[shawn79]

u need players like derrick fisher who is clutch in the playoffs
3's
3's

3's

[Vale46Rossi]

YES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!





Ray Allen returns to give Celtics reunited Big 3 for another try at NBA title
By Jimmy Golen (CP) – 12 hours ago
WALTHAM, Mass. — If the Miami Heat think they are going to waltz their way to an NBA championship now that they've put Dwyane Wade, Chris Bosh and LeBron James together, they should pay attention to Ray Allen.
"So much is being pointed to what we did here," Allen said Tuesday after completing his new contract with the Celtics. "But the question is whether they're ready to sacrifice — make the ultimate sacrifice. It's not about numbers. It's not about accolades. When we did this in '07, that's what we all knew and what we all said: It (personal glory) didn't matter.
"The question that was posed to us was, 'Who was going to take the last shot?' We all said, 'The guy who's open.'"
Allen agreed last week to a $20-million, two-year deal with the Celtics that helps the NBA's most-decorated franchise keep together the core that won an unprecedented 17th championship in 2008. Paul Pierce has also agreed to a new deal; it's expected to be signed later this week.
With those two all-stars back and joining Kevin Garnett, who has two years left on his contract, and emerging star Rajon Rondo, the Celtics have a chance to reach the NBA finals for the third time in four years. But to do so, they might have to go through the talents in South Beach.
"We look forward to playing them, for sure," Allen said at the Celtics' training facility. "We feel like we're the better team, like we're the team to beat in the East."
The old theory was that an NBA team needs two stars to win a title — think Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen with the Bulls, or Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O'Neal with the Lakers. But the Celtics upped the ante on that when they assembled their new Big Three in the summer of 2007.
Initially, there were doubts that the veteran stars would be able to work together after years of being the go-to guys on separate teams. But the three meshed seamlessly and won the NBA championship in their first year together.
The Heat created their superteam — on paper, at least; they haven't played a game yet — when they re-signed Wade and added James and Bosh.
But Allen said it's not so simple.
"Every year, the team that wins the championship sets the mould," Allen said. "We proved that it could work. But there were so many questions about us when we came in."
Getting Allen, Garnett and Pierce to accept that philosophy turned out to be easier than many suspected, mostly because they were all in their 30s and none of them had won an NBA title. James is 25 and Bosh is 26; Wade, who is 28, was a part of the Heat team that won it all in 2006.
"I got to my 12th year to really understand it," Allen said. "It is a sacrifice, and it takes the understanding to realize it."
In a 14-year career for Milwaukee, Seattle and Boston, Allen is second all-time in three-pointers and fifth among active players with 20,965 points. Allen, who turns 35 next week, averaged 16.3 points last season as the Celtics reached the NBA finals before losing in seven games to the Los Angeles Lakers.
After the NBA finals, Allen said, "It's obvious I don't want to be anywhere else."
Allen said on Tuesday his priorities were family first, winning second and "money was last." He held off enrolling his kids in school while he was making a decision, but he was glad to sign early so they could all relax for the summer.
"They call my jersey 'Daddy Celtics.' This is what they know and that meant a lot," said Allen, who listened to other offers and according to his agent could have gotten more elsewhere. "I'm always willing to do that, but at the same time I'm a loyal person. I know when I've got a great situation and that's what I have here."
Allen said that when he first signed with the Celtics, a woman came up to him at a restaurant and said, "I liked you better with Seattle." He figured she meant that he would have better numbers and be a bigger star with the SuperSonics.
He disagreed.
"I like myself better here," he said, "knowing that we're going to win games; we're going to have a chance to win championships."




Source:

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5jF52R6c-wUvXYYLJh3oltHzj9hBg

[hotjoint]

Lakers still going to win it all. I'm not worried

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

no wayyy

go heatttt loll


now i wonna hear some news regarding AI coming back

[MR_BIGGS]

no wayyy

go heatttt loll


now i wonna hear some news regarding AI coming back

Apparently AI is training very hard in Atlanta right now, hoping to return to the NBA this season.

[Vale46Rossi]

I love Iverson, my favorite player since I was a young kid he really deserves a ring.

So does Nash.

[Mugen EvOlutioN]

Apparently AI is training very hard in Atlanta right now, hoping to return to the NBA this season.

sweet baby jesus!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:

[wuuhoo]

It could help them or it could hurt them... first thing that came to my mind is Shaq with the Suns...but we'll see I guess....but I guess, coming off the bench he won't be that bad.

As for Raja might be going to the lakers.. I like it...bringing in some great defenders

are we getting raja?! NICE !!

[hotshot1]

Sorry but you're just a jealous tool. Contract is over. An athlete has every right in the world to choose where he / she wants to play for. STFU please.

How am I jealous?

I understand he can choose to go where ever he wants to, it's his right. It's just that he had that 1 hr bs special to announce it. That was so stupid, he basically spat in the face of Cleveland. That and the fact that he chose to be Robin instead of Batman.

Anyway, the more I think about them, I think they're gonna win the title. Mike Miller is so perfect for them. The Lakers are probably their best competition but the Lakers just barely beat a 30-something shooting Celtics team without Perkins and badly shooting Ray Ray in game 7.

[MR_BIGGS]

How am I jealous?

I understand he can choose to go where ever he wants to, it's his right. It's just that he had that 1 hr bs special to announce it. That was so stupid, he basically spat in the face of Cleveland. That and the fact that he chose to be Robin instead of Batman.

Anyway, the more I think about them, I think they're gonna win the title. Mike Miller is so perfect for them. The Lakers are probably their best competition but the Lakers just barely beat a 30-something shooting Celtics team without Perkins and badly shooting Ray Ray in game 7.

Let's not write history just yet. It's Wade's team, only by association. We all will find out, who the go to guy is as the season progresses, but more importantly, during the playoffs.

I personally think it won't be Wade #1 and Lebron #2 but more of a 1A and 1B..which could work great.

As for being the favourite......to be the team, you have to beat the team...and this pains me to say it, but the Lakers are the team right now.

I think we can all agree that next season will be fun to watch. For me, I follow NBA throughout the season, but that first big game is usually on Xmas day....I can't wait..

[wuuhoo]

christmas day:

Bos at LAL
MIA at Cleveland


glad they got rid of that lebron vs kobe on christmas day shit -________-

[m4k4v4li]

um no i dont want to see AI the ball hog go to MIA and not distribute and further frustrate dwayne n lbj who will already have issues on how to share the ball

[411ken]

are we getting raja?! NICE !!

I guess not anymore!! he signed with the Jazz

[MarkyMark]

I can already see the headlines halfway through the season about lebron and wade not getting along anymore
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[wuuhoo]

I guess not anymore!! he signed with the Jazz

yeah I saw just now. A shot to my face.


Wish LA will pick up another defender before season starts

[MR_BIGGS]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ygt6QifkPss :rofl:

[wuuhoo]

^ I havent watched the real vid yet. probably do so after work

[MR_BIGGS]

I can't wait to watch the entire Espy's. Sunday on TSN.

[kchan]

Wooo mike miller goes to miami :D the roster is looking good, but not enuf to win still imo
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[MR_BIGGS]

Now Penny wants to play for the Hear..lol



next Rodman will come out of retirement.