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good job harassing the black officer who was 4 days into his career..and since paid $750k for the crime and carry the nation's guilt
and ffs, perez hilton as the source?
The source is the person who shot the video. Multiple sites have posted it. This was the only copy on YouTube at the time. You really should check out how bail works it a mess in the states. He did not pay 750k. 4 years or 4 days does not matter. He should have used a little common sense. If he didn't do anything because he was scared that's a problem.
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Authorities on Monday confirmed they are investigating the discovery of a noose found in the Talladega Superspeedway garage stall of Bubba Wallace, NASCAR's only Black full-time driver who successfully pushed the stock car series to ban the Confederate flag at its venues earlier this month.
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Oh Nascar, but yes you banned the Confederate Flag, so all is good, hey?
It's absolutely insane that this garbage is happening and you still have some in this thread trying to pretend there isn't an inherent racist cultural issue here that requires SERIOUS attention and addressing.
Big balls to any black driver that gets into Nascar, some prior black drivers have literally had their brake lines cut in practice (back in the day).
Fuck the US man, I'm sick of this shit.
By the way, for that video harassing that officer, I don't support that. He kept his cool, he clearly isn't reveling at what happened here, his life is ruined at this point.
If that was that Chauvin prick, or that Tao asshole, I'd support it, but not this guy, his story is certainly different. He's a coward, for sure, but doesn't deserve that abuse in public.
Isn't that nice, the jail has removed all black officers from watching Mr. Chauvin. So he gets a surrounding cast of white guards, how accommodating. I guess black guards aren't credible enough to do their job professionally? Wouldn't it be nice if black inmates were offered the same compromise.
Reports of these white guards allowing Chauvin to use their cell phones as well.
FYI, this will now trigger another state investigation of racism by the Department of Human Rights.
This is what we're talking about when we say "systemic" issues. Even with the national attention put forward on this whole problem, the establishment cannot stop itself from continuing its ingrained ways.
Coordinated protests outside Geici 500 today with truckers and vehicles raising the flag. A plane also flew over the race with the flag:
Like I said before, fuck Nascar and its fans. Nascar banned the flag for simple PR, in 2018 the organization had its record lowest viewership. Nascar has long been on the downward trend to obscurity. I have no doubt the only reason they banned the flag was to garner national attention and relevancy.
Its fans won't change, and have no intentions to, Nascar knows this. More corporate virtue signaling bullshit.
I can't tell you how much I despise and hate these people.
I saw this too. Good use of tax payers funds huh? I thought the narrative was to respect your community, but it's fine when cops protest and disrupt ones themselves? This hypocrisy has no bounds.
No problem here though, good cops everywhere, only a few bad apples. Why would anyone want to defund the police?
By the way, for that video harassing that officer, I don't support that. He kept his cool, he clearly isn't reveling at what happened here, his life is ruined at this point.
If that was that Chauvin prick, or that Tao asshole, I'd support it, but not this guy, his story is certainly different. He's a coward, for sure, but doesn't deserve that abuse in public.
Just curious why you think this? Wasn't Tou Thao the Asian cop who stood by and watched? The other 2 guys were the ones that held Floyd down while Chauvin choked him? Also, Keung is still the only guy that made bail out of the 4 right? Where'd he get the cash I wonder? $750k.
Just curious why you think this? Wasn't Tou Thao the Asian cop who stood by and watched? The other 2 guys were the ones that held Floyd down while Chauvin choked him? Also, Keung is still the only guy that made bail out of the 4 right? Where'd he get the cash I wonder? $750k.
I particularly have an issue with Thao as he was the officer holding people back from intervening, as well, he had full view of Floyd and saw what the man was going through firsthand. He didn't try to stop Chauvin, nor did he allow the watchers to jump in.
I see him was the lookout guy on an actual murder. That's why I hold him differently than this Keung fellow.
Oh Nascar, but yes you banned the Confederate Flag, so all is good, hey?
It's absolutely insane that this garbage is happening and you still have some in this thread trying to pretend there isn't an inherent racist cultural issue here that requires SERIOUS attention and addressing.
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^you're kidding right? is there any reason you can possibly think of for why a noose would be in the one black guys car at a nascar race? you can't say someone was exercising in the car, or a leftover movie prop, or part of an exhibition... smh seriously.
I particularly have an issue with Thao as he was the officer holding people back from intervening, as well, he had full view of Floyd and saw what the man was going through firsthand. He didn't try to stop Chauvin, nor did he allow the watchers to jump in.
I see him was the lookout guy on an actual murder. That's why I hold him differently than this Keung fellow.
okay fair enough, but why does Keung get a pass for actually holding down Floyd while he was being choked to death?
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He had only worked 3 shifts, and was following the orders of his trainer (chauvin) supposedly he also asked a number of times to have Floyd moved to lay on his side? (dont know that's just what I read)
As for bail, iirc you only need to post 10% of it to be bailed out, so $75k, and if he owns a house he can put that down, or just family
He had only worked 3 shifts, and was following the orders of his trainer (chauvin) supposedly he also asked a number of times to have Floyd moved to lay on his side? (dont know that's just what I read)
As for bail, iirc you only need to post 10% of it to be bailed out, so $75k, and if he owns a house he can put that down, or just family
10% is a bail bond which you don't get back if i'm not mistaken.
if you can come up with the whole amount, then you get it all back.
actually i also agree that harrassing is wrong in this case. the guy is still in the legal process. i'd be more for it if he got off totally scot free, but at least wait till the process is carried out before trying to do some vigilante shit.
thao and chauvin were veterans, lane and keung were rookies. lane even made comments to chauvin that showed concern about chauvins handling of floyd.
okay fair enough, but why does Keung get a pass for actually holding down Floyd while he was being choked to death?
From the reports I read, he was on the end, holding the feet. His actual body wasn't on his back like the other officers. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt, it was his 4th day on shift.
Trust me, I'm not giving him a pass, he deserves to lose his job, and possibly be charged, but if I was going to give any leniency on any of the officers, it would be him.
Also to add Civic, Thao has had a bunch of complaints against him as well.
^you're kidding right? is there any reason you can possibly think of for why a noose would be in the one black guys car at a nascar race? you can't say someone was exercising in the car, or a leftover movie prop, or part of an exhibition... smh seriously.
^you're kidding right? is there any reason you can possibly think of for why a noose would be in the one black guys car at a nascar race? you can't say someone was exercising in the car, or a leftover movie prop, or part of an exhibition... smh seriously.
I agree with that it was real.......but that french actor....Jussie Smollett, cried wolf.
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ok i'm an idiot that doesnt know how bail works in US
still think harassing him is wrong, what can he do at this point, ask the judge to put him in the electric chair?
This is the fucked up part of social justice.
The way our justice works is that you are innocent until proven guilty beyond any reasonable doubts.
Instead, these people just cast their opinion upon them without the slightest room for arguments. This is prejudice. This is the very thing they all so despise about.
And what happens when the law gives a favorable judgment to those accused? The social justice group actually feel angry and feel that it's unfair.
They have ZERO empathy. They are only doing this because it seems to be the "cool" thing to do. Wait until something similar happen to yourself. Wouldn't you want people give you the benefit of doubt before judgment?
It's always for the greater good until it applies to yourself. Suddenly, it becomes a problem.
And the worse part? People don't fucking understand what true socialism is.
The closest we have to true socialism are Scandinavian countries like Norway, Sweden... etc where there is an extremely high level of education, morality, value, socioeconomic strength to make socialism works.
See this example:
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Socialism In The Classroom
An economics professor at Texas Tech said he had never failed a single student, but had once failed an entire class.
The class (students) insisted that socialism worked since no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on socialism."
"All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A," said the professor.
After the first test the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who had studied hard were upset while the students who had studied very little were happy.
But, as the second test rolled around, the students who had studied little studied even less and the ones who had studied hard decided that since they couldn't make an A, they also studied less. The second Test average was a D.
No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around the average grade was an F.
The scores never increased as bickering, blame, name calling, all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for anyone else.
To their great surprise they all failed.
The professor told them that socialism, too, would ultimately fail because of the same basic human principles of incentive.
The harder people try to succeed the greater their reward (capitalism), but when a government takes all the reward away (socialism) no one will try or succeed.
This is the problem of introducing socialism to a crowd when they are not ready. You keep removing/lowering the bar... until everything is rock bottom. No one would even try to be better unless they have ways to separate themselves somehow from the system.
I see this firsthand in Argentina. Their entire population is 43MM. 45.7% of it (just under 20MM) receives gov't subsidy, and 12MM active workers are trying to sustain the system. It just DOESN'T work.
Scandinavian people can pull it off. In fact, Norway has benefits so good... that you can show up on day1 at work, then claim that you have been traumatized by working (somehow) and the gov't would basically pay you for the rest of your life.
When I asked my Norwegian friends "wouldn't someone exploit the system?"
The answer? "Technically, yes... but why would you want to do that if you are able to work?"
That's the mentality that our society needs.
Stop with this "I always did good, it's all because of the system" bullshit. I have seen too many cases of success when they had everything going against them to believe that.
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